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Wheres is the beef it should be atleast 300 horsepower with the 2.3 then we have something to talk about. It looks like a half hearted sport truck effort it has no heart. The Lobo is a all show and no go. Ford really could have came out with something really special for us past ST owners.
They are going to do the same thing they always do. Test it with an existing powertrain, and if interest is high they'll give it a new engine in in 2 or 3 years.
In Mexico, the F150 name is only what the XL,XLT lower work trim models are called. The more luxurious trim models are called Lobo. If you go to the Ford Mexico website, you will see.
The Maverick mini truck has proven to be a huge sales hit. I’m wondering why GM won’t bring back the S10 mini truck. The GMC Syclone was a beast back in the 90’s.
the 2.7 won't fit in the engine bay without a platform redesign. The 2.3 however is the same size as and will drop in place. They probably won't do it because of emissions standards though.
When I first heard about the Canyon/Colorado I was expecting it to be an improved successor to the S10/Sonoma, but I was disappointed with the new GM trucks. I drove almost 3000 kilometers to get a 2016 2WD Canyon with a manual transmission. If GM won't build the truck I want, then I can replace the engine with a 4.3L Vortec and a Tremic transmission and have the truck I want. I also want to remove the infotainment screen and stock gauges with aftermarket analog gauges because a truck should be more mechanical and doesn't need all the technology of modern vehicles.
If you want a true mechanical truck, rebuild one from the 90’s with an LS engine. Carbed for full mechanical, but fuel injection really makes for a better experience at the cost of adding a computer to control it. Anything even remotely recent is going to just be lipstick on a pig; sure, it will look like analog gauges, but they will all just be wired to the computer that simulates analog readings through digital signals and be just as impossible to repair if anything goes wrong with the computer. It’s also going to cost a fortune to have an expert program that ecu to control the vortec with the drive by wire pedals and throttle inputs based on fuel maps and mass air flow sensor readings.
@alsacs3635 My previous truck was a 2002 Sonoma, and it was the best vehicle I have ever owned. It was 10 times better than my current 2016 Canyon. The interior of the Sonoma was comfortable and designed around the driver with all the dash controls in easy reach. In the Canyon, everything in the interior is off by 1-3 inches. To reach some of the controls, I can't stay in my driving position because I have to lean forward and to the right. When driving my 2016 Canyon if I have my right arm on the center console and reach for the manual shifter my hand passes over it because the shifter knob is too low. Some people call the Maverick a mini truck, and maybe that is from the days of MiniTruckin Magazine, but modern so-called "mid-sized" trucks are too big. I bought a Canyon because I thought it would be similar to the Sonoma, but it's huge and hard to park in modern cities. I didn't want a full-sized truck because parking lots have narrower spaces, and it's harder to maneuver a big truck out of a parking spot when you have cars parked on both sides. When I leave work, I pull forward, back up to the right, then pull forward again with my steering wheel turned to the left at full lock. The aisle between parked cars is so narrow that my 2016 Canyon feels like a 3 ton truck. Bigger is not always better.
I still want a Maverick lightning. (Which would also wipe the floor with the "lobo" from a performance perspective.) At least they improved the hybrid offering.
Really was hopin for like an ST version. 3.0 from the explorer st , 2.7 eco from f150 or 2.3 from the ranger even. Something in that 325-350 horse range and awd in that maverick would be a blast
The 2.3 would be perfect, but it will not happen. They won't put manuals in United States cars because, they don't sell, funny the Focus ST sold pretty good and it kept the posers out of them. I understand these will sell better but it would be nice to have them make a manual for the more passionate and loyal fans. Why do awesome things when you can half ass it. They still make the Focus ST they just don't sell it here anymore.
Ford was a bit off when they told you pricing. Tremor and Lobo are both over 40k after destination - per vehicle builder on their website. Maverick and ranger are in same price range now. It’s a 7k jump for tremor from 2024-2025
When I ordered my first gen Maverick, I asked if there would be a mark up. My dealer said that because I special ordered my Maverick, there would be no mark up.
Why don’t all mavericks come with fog lamps instead of that horrendous blank plastic rectangular pieces?? Only the tremor kinda remedied it by having tow hooks lol
@@gs98999 not when you NEED fog lights. Their benefit is being down low. I get fog so thick at times that last year I was driving home in fog so thick I couldn't drive with my headlights on, it just made it worse. Unfortunately my drivers fog light was out so I had to drive 10 miles by driving in the center of the road and following the centerline with my passengers fog light at like 15 mph. Worst fog I've ever seen... Which reminds me I have to fix that light before fall!
@@volvo09I’m just saying why they are going away. You will notice most luxury cars don’t have them anymore because their headlights make fog lights irrelevant. Ie not needed. This will trickle down to most other cars in next 5-10 years.
Playing around in the build your own site i don't like how they've locked some options down now. Like you can only get the full size spare with all wheel drive. Lariat is awd only so the price is way up. Hope that's just placeholders. And for 40k this should have the 2.3. the 2.7 or 3.0 would add too much weight.
It's good to see more companies make the clutch rear diff a normal part of their build. This is something Honda's benefited from for almost 20 years, but it wasn't something you saw or could get in most vehicles. You'd see it in some BMWs and Porsches as costly upgrades. I've been driving Ridgelines for several years now, and it really is the trick rear diff that makes vehicles like these handle very well. Customers who finally get some time behind the wheel will be surprised how much this makes trucks like the Maverick handle well above expectation.
Let's just hope the Ridgeline sticks with a V6 and doesn't go for anemic I4 turbos like almost everyone else has. So far my V6 Ridgeline gets better mileage than these I4 turbos do, runs cool and quiet, no turbo lag, and has oodles of power. I hope Honda doesn't screw it up.
@@kjrehberg I doubt it will last. The Type R engine is powerful enough for a direct swap and not be down on hp or torque. They have the 2.0L hybrid used in other vehicles, decent torque but a bit weak on hp. I could see that being an alternate entry at some point given it can likely bump city/mixed mpg easily +10 or better if you're willing to drop 50hp. However, a hotter engine setup which they've already done, paired with a hybrid could get it in fighting distance with Ford's larger turbo 4 cylinders in their pickups where we could easily see a mid 300hp high torque option that would be more broadly competitive. The big problem is of course cost. Hybrid are just more expensive. Honda's made sure their V6 is as modern as it can be in technology, so it's been able to stay relevant for both power and efficiency. Although not with the standard truck tires they use now, the on the older pre-refresh model I often got 33-36 highway. But mixed/city is its weak point dropping down to the mid 20s. This is where hybrid can correct the weak point and likely provide a mid 30s mpg everywhere. Now they don't really have to push for this since most competitors are still in the mid 20s anyways, regardless of smaller engines or hybridization. There's no compelling need if Honda is already at or near the top of the mpg fight still.
To my knowledge all ST version usually get a better engine than the base model. So they needed another designation under the ST which is already under the RS.
ST's got stronger internals. Not to handle the stock power but they knew that the tuners would go ham on them. Skip this one unless you want to pay a few grand more for better brakes and a trick diff that will hardly get used because there is not enough power.
The AWD is the saving grace of this sport truck, without it this is just an underpowered hot hatch with a bed. Hopefully the lobo can see some horsepower and torque bumps in the future, and hopefully this sells well
Love the street truck look, that was a hot trend when I was young, back when the Nissan hardbody, ranger, and S10 were everywhere. My brother put airbags in his 2wd Nissan, and a friend had an S10 that did awesome burnouts. Haha
Everything basically from the European focus st except for the suspension, the awd system, and the engine. Sure wish ford would’ve stuffed the 2.3 in But I think they built this truck knowing people would tune it and mod it, hence for the slightly more built transmission and more cooling and what not rather than the regular setup
With the 2.3 you would get warranty. After tuning the 2.0 you lose it. Big difference. Just can't get excited about this truck without the extra power. We'll have to see once they start testing it if it's really worth it or not.
Lobo is actually the name of the higher luxurious trim models of the F150. The F150 is the name of the lower work truck models. You could see it on the Ford Mexico website.
I built a sport truck from my 2020 Crewcab Ranger. Lowered it 5R and 3F with the Belltech lowering kit. Put it on 20" wheels. Ended up selling it before I got into motor work but it was still a fantastic driving truck. Woulda loved to got it up around 350 hp but life went a different direction and I sold it. I have always loved performance pickups.
I love this. I have a 2024 Maverick and if the Lobo existed when I ordered, I'd have a Lobo now. As it stands now, I'm gonna see if I can get some of the Lobo-specific parts for my own Maverick AWD.
@@302Mustang13 I think the main difference between tow haul and sport mode is the aggressiveness of downshifting when under braking. Both modes work good for towing because normal mode just wants to keep you in the highest gear.
Nice looking truck. It is a fresh retink for a segment that was forgotten. If it sells well it may sway the manufacturers to add this type of option with the midsize trucks?
For this being a 'hot' version, a very generous estimate of 190hp at the rear wheel doesn't exactly scream performance to me. Good idea, but man, that thing is going to be tired after one hot session in a parking lot.
For my F350 I got the premium 10/100 ford warranty for like $2200. Local dealer wanted $8k and at first told me they would not sell the Ford warranty just a 3rd party warranty. Slime balls. And I’m talking one of the biggest branded dealership chain on the front range.
Definitely slime balls.... F 3rd party warranty's. They wanted to sell that to you because they can sell it for whatever they want, and they can't mark up the ford warranty 4x.
New name to the USA. Down south of the border every Ford F-150 is badged LOBO. It has been for decades. Oh, and Maverick and new to US Raptor Rangers have been sold there for at least 2 years. An American auto company should be debuting cool new vehicles in America not elsewhere.
Don't get lost because of the name-This is it. Or the Ranger. Depending on how you look at it. The Maverick is the same size as the Ranger from the Sport Trac era. The current Ranger is the size of the Sport Trac. They only built the Sport Track because they didn't then have something in that size. Ford's not going to cannibalize sales that way. It took them long enough to even bring back the Ranger because they knew it would decrease F150 sales.
I really feel they missed the mark on this trim. Ford's first attempt at releasing a performance and or sport-oriented Maverick should have offered a slightly modified 2.0 at the very least. Plenty of 2.0's on the market pushing around 300HP and TQ.
When they started the ST badge in Europe one of the prerequisites of earning the badge was to have a manual transmission. Leave it up to the corporate Americans to bastardize the ST badge to get some extra profit. I am surprised that they didn't slap it on there shouting, look at me.
Maybe it would be the return of the street truck if it had a manual transmission. You can't market a vehicle for enthusiasts without the most special part of an enthusiast vehicle. It's completely void without it.
Did everyone forget that the Focus ST & MkIII Focus RS were a thing in the North American market not that long ago? The Focus (RIP USA models), Escape, Bronco sport & Maverick all share the same platform (and drivetrain components, depending on trim, except that the 2.3L Ecoboost is no longer offered in them in the US); this is a parts bin special, and not a very good one at that.... He's trying to make it sound like there was a significant amount of calibration required for the Diff & "Lobo mode", when in reality it was just minor tweaks/parameter adjustments to the existing calibration. Give me that MkIII RS powertrain in a Maverick - 2.3L w/350hp, 6mt, AWD w/torque vectoring Rear diff & "drift mode" ("Lobo" mode sounds like drift mode-light), not to mention the MkIII RS brakes and some 18"x9" wheels with a 255/40 (so it will also have a lower overall diameter) instead of those god awful 19x7.5? (maybe 19x8) Wheels, and reduce the ground clearance further; the Lobo still has ~7.8" (or more) of ground clearance. I can work with the reduced 2klb towing &1klb payload capacities, give me my four-seat performance Ute or GTFO.
I’m glad to see Ford offering this trim. As others have said, I would have liked to see the 2.3 from the Mustang but that must have been too expensive to develop for the Maverick. I’m hoping that Ford Racing offers a tune and other upgrades.
Fun fact, in Mexico all upscale (Lariat and above) F-150s are called Ford Lobo. So in Mexico, if you have a F-150, meh, but if you have a Lobo, now you’re talking. Specially cool is the branding for the Ford Lobo Raptor.
Explorer ST, Edge ST, Escape ST, Focus ST. All their performance products the last few years are ST's I dont understand why this isnt a Maverick ST. Sounds SO much better
Why not the 2.5 instead of the 2.0 turbo? Why is the 2.5 only for the hybrid? What about those of us who require AWD and don't want the turbo and/or might want the hybrid (and don't want a Tremor)?
bigger displacement, bus less power. you cannot modify an Atkinson Cycle engine or you'll blow it up, they are meant for fuel economy, just like a Prius.
I guess that means an ST version will be coming for 2026. Lobo? What kind of name is that? If it is fun to drive and comes with the leather seats, it might be priced ok once the dealers go from mark ups to mark downs. It would have been a no brainer with some more power. Thank you to Ford for making the effort!
... so, when is the Maverick Lightning full EV version coming out? (the grill dips down into the front bumper top to provide for a frunk...) And, why the HP drop from 250hp?
I like the vehicle, glad to have something interesting going on. The Lobo name is kind of eh to me but maybe it’ll save a lane for a full on ST with more power in the future. Nice video as always, Andre
I don't understand calling it proformace verison and it makes the same power as the current 2.0t spec or less if I'm not mistaken. This thing sould have been making 300hp or better with maybe the 2.3
Shouldn’t it have the Focus ST motor, wasn’t that over 300hp? Personally, unpopular opinion here, I’d like to see an electric version (with plenty of power).
Optional wheels 💯 ftw. I really wonder how they lost power with the same 2.0 ecoboost. I know it’s only 12 hp but dang they should have used a custom computer calibration to get 20-25hp more. 275ishor close to 300 would be nice. I wonder how the gearing and transmission software help. Only thing I would want off this for my FX4 is the paddle shifters. It looks cool but Ford needs to up the game. Definitely a let down after all the demand from consumers for a real sport truck. I’m let down for sure. Hopefully in a couple years they will realize enthusiasts want some more hp. Or Ford plans on offering a Ford Cal for these to make more money…
Never ever buy a third party warranty they are not worth the paper they are written on, they find any excuse not to warranty anything plus do not pay for labour to get to the problems
Why is the volume knob so far away from the screen? Yet there's a big trailer steering knob. I like the 22' - 24' design better. Also, Loco would sound better than Lobo.
A street truck with 4 doors? It would handle a lot better with only 2. Give it a v6 and awd then you have a street truck. As for the wolf(lobo) cosmetics inside the truck could include wolf footprints on floormats, seats, dash, headliner, steering wheel etc.
Like a manual transmission, many say they want one. Not enough actually sell. Same for 2 door trucks. I have a 2 door V6 Bronco. It’s a unicorn surrounded by 4 door family haulers.
The real problem is that people are only able to afford one car and thus it inevitably ends up being a family vehicle that is all about utility. FORD used to make cool stuff for everyday folk.
Today 8/6/24 I just went to ford website and the MSRP states $40,495 and then $42,785 after destination charges and acquisition fee! How is that cheap?
On the configurator I see the basic Lobo model as $42090 msrp. for this doing donuts model. My 2022 XLT, EcoBoost, AWD, 4KTow, FX4 was $29080 msrp. To do donuts I need to pay $13,000 additional, oh sure, such a deal. And it robs the parts bin from other Ford models and surely removes some content as well as Ford has done each year..
@@areitomusic 2.0 has a closed deck block 2.3 has an open deck block. Simple terms is would you rather have an engine that’s one solid medal piece or a block with holes in it. And stronger motor means it can hold power more reliably
