On the homesteading topic, my husband & I have made the same observations. Everyone is gifted more so in certain areas, & less in others. For example, one family might be interested in husbandry, & be really good at it, but they still might need to call a vet to take care of their animals. While we can dabble in lots of areas, we would still want to rely on others for the strengths they bring to the table.
Great series! However, I dont think most who are serious about food security or making a living off the land are saying get a few chickens and quit your day job. There's a growing number of small farms that are making it and providing a key source of food for their communities. I think Andrew hit the nail on the head with his comments about security through building community. The more skilled the people around us are at producing food, the more resiliency that builds into our community. The truth is you cant go at it alone. But we should all be pursuing these skills for the well-being of our families and communities - apocalypse aside. That's post-mil food production 😉
You’re so right Joel about those who preach homesteading and off grid life whilst serving the system and making their living off of it. Also I agree with the mum who said about homeschooling and how it’s outsourced. I’ve thought that for a long time. There’s so much dependency on the whole World system with those who think they’re off grid.
Michael Foster is correct about family farming being difficult. I grew up on a farm (small livestock and summer produce) which was my parents' source of income.....it was hard work, very grueling and I felt like a slave as a teenager. Summers were long and hot, no family vacations. It takes a special guy with lots of family to help him to be successful in this.
Joel, it's super rare that I disagree with you, but it is truly weird and odd that you would relish the opportunity to say something negative about homesteading. There's innumerable amounts of homesteaders who are self sufficient who are connected in Christian communities. They are the most prepared for the worst. But they don't live like crazy doomsdayers. We're not one of them, but aspire to be. I really don't understand the negativity against the homesteaders. Glad for the rebuttal of Andrew regarding the actual good of homesteading.
Everything has positives and negatives. It’s not wrong to point out that it’s not easy to become completely self sufficient through homesteading. People should know the positives and negatives of it to make the most informed decision about whether to go all out on a certain life style.
Every homesteader (husband) I know was once in tech. Having money (being in tech) makes homesteading much easier. You can buy equipment, get a tractor, buy feed, hire help, whatever you need because you have the money. And then, if you can get all of that stuff you still aren’t going to make a killing off of homesteading, it’s just an alternative way to live.
The number of homesteaders who are actually self-sufficient (not needing full-time employment outside of the home), who didn't get there from first making a ton of money - is extremely small. Even so, those who are living that way would affirm that it is very difficult. He didn't say don't have a homestead. He said not to set the expectation that you will have a self-sufficient homestead.
@@zacklynch584 Just having chickens and a few acres in the country has relieved me of my homesteader delusions. So much work already while also homeschooling.
Gentlemen, at some point i would love to express the impact your ministry has had on my family. It is a crazy story. I am a Moscow, Christ Church transplant from Ca. I have some very specific work and hobby farm life that is very encouraging!
It is scary how oblivious, and or complacent, many parents are about the threats to their own children from electronic devices, school system indoctrination, television shows grooming them . . . Keep up the good work of warning people of the many pitfalls in our sadly depraved culture and how to counter it Biblically!
I rather be over their education as their teacher because its more than just curriculum which there is nothing wrong with outsourcing just as long as you get to facilitate as a parent. I think I have been intrusted most with character building and emotional maturity and regulation. Its been the biggest growth in my Christian walk to oversee their education and helping educate their emotional regulation. Through a biblical worldview and the leadership of my husband as the principal. Its was best, I also have them in PE courses ...so i am not saying never outsource but they will be most of their days with mom and dad. They become who they are with. My ministry is first my husband and then my children.
This was an excellent and helpful episode. I've been interested in moving to a solid Christian community, but I'm also learning from this video that there's a winning mindset that can be applied where I already live.
BTW if anyone knows of communities like these in the eastern half of the country please share them!!! I'm thinking KY, TN, and their neighboring states.
We won't force conversions, but we will force you to Obey Christian ethics and morality by law. That's Christian nationalism. And I ❤ that. 💪💪💪💪 Strength and Honor!
It is God's normative design that Christian families homeschool their children. Yes, it's not a universal command for everyone, but unless there's a very good reason you shouldn't even be considering any other options. Brian Sauve touched on this in his talk at Blueprints for Christendom.
On the brotherhood with guns....I live in a military town and am a law enforcement officer. Most of the men in my men's group from church are either active duty military, law enforcement/first responders, veterans, or adjacent.
In regards to the "Mad Max" scenario when people are going to take your stuff, that only applies to people that think they're going to be an island and their family will some lone island of survival. When you have a connected Christian community, especially in a rural areas far from major population centers, where you know all your neighbors, that suddenly becomes a lot harder. Now you have 6, 7 or 8 Christian families bound together in community with not one or two ARs, but with almost a hundred. Suddenly you've graduated from lone survivor to community "survival" which 60 years ago would've simply been called "life". I am blessed with a community like this, where if I go to the "big town" of 2000 people, I'm almost guaranteed to run into 5 people I know.
I don't take seriously homesteading criticisms from academic men sitting around in sport jackets and dress shoes. Some of us work physical jobs and want to grow food and raise a few animals so we can make a better life for our family and raise healthy children. Not all of us are in tech
Talking about homesteading like this but then ragging on Allie Beth for buying sourdough when she thinks it's fine to not fit into every trend of the trad wife? 😅 Kind of seems like a double standard...
I suppose there is a fundemental issue with what exactly is defined as "winning" or "victory"...a person who loves and lives holy wins...like period...and they are many times losers in other spheres of life. I like the main thought as long as it steers clear of self righteous looking down on others, and as long as it doesnt work out to some kind of "niche" gospel only the middle class can afford. But by all means...take over for Christ wherever u can! Personal, public, government...im on board.
Husbands and fathers need to be home with their family and help work the land as God commanded him in Genesis, from the beginning. He does not help protect by leaving his family behind everyday, or help provide by working for banker Babylon, its occult money, and grocery store illness dependency. Are we all submitting to Christ? Just one gender working towards still will not work. God said, "Come ye out of the world." That's to ALL His children...
I need to homeschool I can’t afford private school, trust me if I could send my kids to get a Christian education I much rather send them to a good Christian school, I’m a broke down disabled veteran not exactly rolling in dollars. So the public schools are insanity we have to homeschool because we aren’t sending our kids to the wolves
Why not organize militia? That is the only solution to our problems now. It is the only Constitutional solution, period. Not only is it not illegal, the Constitution demands militias. People seem afraid to mention militia, as if it's illegal or marks you as a traitor to form militia. There is nothing more American than local militias. In fact, the ONLY form of federal government subsidies that are constitutionally legal are providing for militias. They are also the only form of police that the federal government can provide for. Note, the federal government cannot form militia. They do not rule over militia. They can only provide arms, etc. for militia. They don't have to, but they can. It's right in Article 1, Section 8. People need to learn what militia are for. If militia were common, we wouldn't have BLM or Antifa riots.
I think the push back from Christians stems from the fact that you are asking them to work. The work is hard. It’s hard to work out. It’s hard to be self disciplined in your eating. It’s hard to parent attitudes and passions. It’s much easier to watch tv, eat whatever the government puts out, and parent like the world. So they justify their laziness by saying, that’s legalism. That’s an idol. We don’t need that.
It'd be interesting to know what the "loser" theologians mean by losing? Like, not having godly families? Not making disciples or being a part of a biblically faithful church? Not planting biblically faithful churches? Not leaving a godly legacy?
@@nerychristian He is referencing John MacArthur in a disparaging way. MacArthur does involve himself in politics (particularly since Kowvidd) but he does not believe the church ultimately 'wins' (or is winning) on earth.
@@solideomusical Depends what we mean by winning. If by winning, we mean that Christ is reigning from heaven, and that the Satan's strongholds will collapse, and that the Gospel will continue to spread throughout the world- then yes, I believe we are winning. I think I hold to the post millennial view of eschatology. But my view is more pessimistic. I see society continue to decline, especially in the West. I don't see society becoming more friendly towards Christianity, or even to conservative values. I hope I am wrong. But all signs point to the decline of family and society.
What loser theology is, is any kind of theology (mainly eschatology) that teaches that the church loses on the Earth, and it will continue to get worse and worse. It is a cancerous theology that has crippled the church for about 170 years. The most common form of this theology is dispensationalism which is a false teaching
He was making a sports reference and Joel admitted in a previous podcast that his family upbringing was more in tune with the arts such as music where Joel’s wife’s family were more into sports. He was taking a brotherly/ jokingly jab at Joel.
of course homesteading barely makes money 🙄 that’s not the point.. it isn’t about getting rich, it’s about being self reliant when famine or depressions hit because you cannot stake your family’s lives on the corrupt government to make a stable economic system. Guess what.. a husband is allowed to make money being a software engineer while hobby farming. You say it won’t matter because people will just end up coming for the gardens.. but there is a solution for that you didn’t address. Let me introduce you to my little friend 🔫
@@RightResponseMinistries in the first 20 seconds you extol parents to fill their kids with abstract hatred for 'the magical dark liturgy that runs 24/7'.
Those passages don’t discourage marriage, you’re just taking those verses out of context. The context of Matthew 22:30 is that once we’re resurrected we won’t need to procreate, and Paul begins the 1 Cor. 7 by recommending marriage. God’s command for humanity is be fruitful and multiply, He ever lifted that mandate. The rare exception is celibacy, which is a rare gift based on the pattern that scripture sets out.
@@vladyakubets Clever. "You can be celibate only if you have the gift. Btw no one has that gift." Do you think Paul would bother to write about a gift that applies to no one other than himself? Paul does NOT reccommend marriage. He allows for it if someone REALLY wants it, because it's not wrong. But nothing to strive for, much less the whole meaning of existence the way we make it out to be. Why would he say, "I am sparing you," if he expected almost no one to heed his advice? Matthew 22:30 proves marriage is worldly and not important for those who aren't married. If you are going to argue that this is irrelevant because it's post-resurrection, you're essentially rejecting your new life in favor of the old, worthless, decaying one.
@@crystalvulpine2314 later on in chapter 7, when Paul expands upon the topic of remaining single instead of just alluding to it, he says he recommends this to them because of “the impending crisis” (NET) or “present distress” (ESV) in verse 26. There was a hard time coming upon them and he recommended the single pale to remain single during the hard time until it passes. It’s clear when surveying all of scripture and history, that God’s design is for most people to be married. That’s the norm. If Paul is really suggesting that the new norm is to remain single then Christianity would’ve died out by now
@@vladyakubets The "present distress" is a later addition by the pastoral editor. It's one of several attempts to undermine what Paul said. How do I know this? Read the rest of the chapter, particularly the next paragraph or two. The logic in the rest of the chapter doesn't follow the "present distress" scenario. It's all general statements that apply to all people at all times. If you want to know just how much the pastoral editor HATED what Paul had to say here, in 1 Timothy he writes that bearing biological children is a prerequisite for BEING SAVED. It goes against biological instincts (aka fleshly nature) for anyone to not procreate as much as possible, so it's hard for most people to understand how anything but "the family" can be the purpose of everything. It's worth noting that some early Christian sects actually forbade marriage. Including the Marcionites, who most likely wrote Luke (and yes, Luke has Jesus saying those who are worthy don't marry, and doesn't prohibit divorce, only remarriage). That's a bit extreme, but Christianity at first leaned more that way than the other.
