Sleepy Hollow - Nicole Beharie & Tom Mison on their Relationship 

I totally agree with you!

Definitely agree!!!

Yes and Orlando Jones character!. They as a group made the show. I still watched till the end. I wish CW or Nexflix would bring it back. Abby could still be alive in limbo. Orlando Jones is hiding some where. And treat her right if they do it!

If they had looked after her and treated her right and gave her time to deal with her illness, we would have Ichabbie by now.

I second that !!!!!

I second that !!!!!

I hate to burst my own bubble but I just found out Tom Mison got married! #buzzkill

tramaine1981 where did you find that out?

Nothing has been confirmed about a marriage for Tom, though there has been speculations. So let's keep the fantasy going for a reality between the two costars!

Agree!

lol

That reminds me of right after what Nicole said about the fans seeing what they want to see, (they cut it out), but Tom talked about never hearing of shipping before or Ichabbie so he had to Google it. lol!

Lmao@like FedEx! Good one!

You're a pillock

Here Here well said

Spot on! "Slow burn to love" relationship.

okay let me tell you something. if the writers are good at their jobs then this wouldn't be an issue. if the writers don't rely solely on a relationship then this wouldn't be an issue. if the writers are able to create the type of progression most relationships develop over an extended period of time naturally without impeding on the premise of the show then it wouldn't be a problem. when i posted this i saw how ichabod and abbie relationship could go there in a very natural and organic way. the show had all the ingrediants for that to happen anyways. the show had two perfect leads and chemistry off the charts. there wasn't anything to force because it was already there in abundance. cut to season 2 and what do we have. the exact opposite. we have all new writers and the show's storyline is all about the cranes failed marriage. it's hard enough that this relationship has been forced. it's bad enough that they don't even feel like a real believable couple on the show. it's bad enough that katrina has better screen chemistry with headless than she does her own husband. it's bad enough that the writers couldn't keep ichabod from acting like a dick towards abbie while at the same time trying to fix his broken marriage, without abbie looking like be black best friend (which is a very negative trope). so really the fans actually don't want the cranes together. and that's why the rating are falling. people checked out because the new writers didn't utilize the tools that they had at their disposal. they pissed away the amazing chemistry that tom and nicole display every week because people felt too uncomfortable with the idea that abbie could actually be in a relationship with ichabod someday. you say it's not about romance. that's true, it isn't but that hasn't stopped the season 2 narrative from making sleepy hollow all about the crane's marriage and not about the end of the world. it's not all about crane. it's about abbie too. and if their friendship is that important why is that being sidelined then. it's not just shippers that have had issues with this season. it's critics too. it's been rather overwhelming that people are irritated that they wasted away a good thing for the cranes marriage. so yes relationships can ruin a show (see rating for proof) it really don't have to be the case. not with the leads this show has.

Darla, you are brilliant! I think the Sleepy Hollow writers should hire you as a consultant. I agree with you 100%. Season 1 was the best, season 2 has been a slight disappointment. I need to see more of a positive relationship between Ichabod and Abbie and--screw those that feel uncomfortable with the possible romance of "Ichabbie".

the show is dying because it's relying solely on the cranes marriage and it's slowed the pace of the show too much. we're barely out of year one right now. which mean they're going to have to do a time jump at some point. hawely sucks, they made headless a pansy, henry's a brat and not threatening, katrina is a useless witch, reyes is no where to be seen, so is irving until it was time for him to die, and jenny's barely around. they even sideline abbie, who's suppose to be the hero of the story and all this for the cranes. see they've all but eliminated the poc on the show except for abbie. so is this the dynamic that is causing the show to die? is that what you mean because that's the reason the show sucks now. don't you read reviews. listen to podcasts. it's not just shippers getting mad about what's going on. it's critics alike. i mean if you want to just narrow in on ichabbie fine. the fate of ichabod and abbie's relationship was going to change and that's a good thing for the narrative. they needed a break. what i'm not cool with is the fact that abbie allowed things to play out without getting rightfully upset about the way she's been treated. i can tell you i wouldn't like being yelled and not applogized to. has ichabod ever said sorry. no. but irving said it when she saved him. because he was grateful for what she did. has katrina said thanks for the multiple times abbie's risked her life. no she hasn't. and if either ichabod or katrina are grateful they have a funny way of showing it. i frankly don't care anymore to have this conversation because at the end of the day ichabod and abbie were meant to be, as witness, as eventual lovers. they have the chemistry to make that happen. whether or not you agree. shows tend to pair off their leads because believe it or not it's a popular thing. just because you and a few other don't like it don't mean anything. it ultimately is what's best for the fandom. and right now the fandom don't care for how the season is playing out. and that has everything to do with how cranes have taken over. if the show dies it's because more people hated how the narrative is playing out, and from where i stand it's because they don't like the cranes.

I agree.

nickie depena Pals not couple! Ichabod's heart is only for Katrina!!!

Linda Lin hahahaha!

ManyNationsWoman Yes! Katrina is dead! hahaha!

jemjean100 ... She wasn't in April... *facepalm*

jemjean100 Dude, have you seen the tension that's been forming between them? Calm your ship, it ain't solid yet. Plus, Katrina may have to return to purgatory, she technically is dead, while Ichabod just sorta... hibernated. It makes sense. I hope so, she's a very poorly done and irritating character.

Oh I thought I was the only one who hates Katrina omg !! I love you !!

Dada Haoua I think most people hate Katrina now #strugglewitch

MusiqQueen6 lol omg I believe we all just became a team together. I am not a Katrina fan

She Was Mean

Yeah, I don’t believe it. The person who wrote that book said that Tom was the one who came up with the bow so he wouldn’t have to touch her, but he’s touching her of his own accord during this. I call bs on that book.

Agree

Turns out your observation was spot on!

I would love to see Abbie/Andy together......If he wasn't dead.

No to Abbie and Andy. Yes to Abbie getting more character development. To be fair of course, the nature of Ichabod's character makes it easy to take him in whatever direction the writers want, but still.

Konyak0 Disagree! Abbie had palpable chemistry with Andy. Their story should've been explored further, as there was a deeper connection between the two; and let's be honest, the only influence nature had in dictating Ichabod's characterization in this version of "Sleepy Hollow," is the character's (apparently) aesthetic appeal. Ichabod should've been a side-character, bouncing off clues from the past every so often, not take up 80% of the show's storyboard.

***** sorry but I'll have to disagree with you, I didn't think there was very much chemistry between Abbie & Andy, there was no way that relationship was ever going to happen. But the chemistry between Abbie & Ichabod is so much more, they are both witnesses just as much and are going through this journey together.

I kinda liked abbie and Andy too and would have loved to see that story unfold a little more.

Seeing as how season one started with 10 million viewers and by the end of season 2 the show was down to 4 million viewers. So seems more than half already left while she was still there!!

She became really sick and they kept forcing her to work. They were just not treating her well. She had to leave to take care of herself.

I shipped her either with Ichabod or Nick/Hawley

DragonHeart613 Well, I hope you enjoyed the season 2 finale. Love hurts (literally) LOL. Long overdue.

That is my thought also So what they spend half an episode in bed I think not let them be best friends

Are you serious! She had to quit, because she had a medical emergency and they kept trying to force her to work against doctors orders. Liberal Agenda????? I think not, most people would say they pushed her out. You need it up!!!!😅

Ahh yes the famous "*liberal* political agenda" of anti interracial relationships...🤣🤣🤣 I love when white people try to differentiate and blame other factions of white people as the racist ones. It's ALL of you. You sound off your rocker. The reason the character was brutally killed off twice is because the racist ass writers and showrunners sunk their own show by not treating their Black lead as a human being and expected her to work through debilitating illness and fatigue at a a grueling 16 hour work days. No one was colorblind during this show's run. Not the racist fans who spent three years terrorizing Nicole Beharie and Orlando Jones nonstop online. Not the racist media publications and critics who CONSTANTLY downplayed Nicole and Abbie as the female lead. Not the complicit white male lead who NEVER spoke up in her defense during or after her tenure on the show. And not the racist show writers who relegated Abbie and Frank to the roles of Mammy and servant. Only there to serve as helpers for the never ending Crane Family Drama. Your revisionist history and the warped lens you viewed this show speaks volumes. Abbie was wronged and her character was assaulted for years before they killed her off. 🙄🙄 funny you didn't notice or have issue with that though

+Lauren Hild 'No drama'. Hmm does that a good TV show make?

u do see the chemistry right? they cant be brother n sister. look at them!

silverdotmanee totally agree, it would be incestuous à la Jamie and Cersei

I agree with you. They are best friends and Ichabod loves so much his wife Katrina that loves him so much. Why the people hate the couples of Katrina and Ichabod? Why?

ooh noo. i dont hate them, i just love ichabod n abbie more.

@Ty Awad, Amen dude!!! Glad to see I'm not alone in hoping that Ichabod & Abby remain just best friends and that Ichabod will find a way to be with his beloved Katrina forever in the end!!! Ichabod belongs with Katrina especially after everything they've both have had to endure in the name of their love!!! I hope that unlike The Mentalist that the creators & writers do not screw up the show by matching the two main characters, that for once the male & female main characters stay just pals!!!