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Slim 120mm Top Fans in the NR200: Cheap, Easy Mounting Solutions and Thermal impact 

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I'm not sure if Cooler Master knows it but they do provide slim fan mounting "hardware" right in the accessories box for the NR200. I'll show a couple ways and then do a quick discussion on the thermal impact of having that fan over the CPU cooler. SFX-L power supply users can also use this method to ensure proper circulation in the case.
I've made a few recommendations down below- check out the idea list or individual product links:
120mm slim fans: www.amazon.com/shop/machinesm...
Chromax Noctua NF-A12x15mm: amzn.to/2JutR4t
"Traditional" Noctua NF-A12x15mm: amzn.to/33G8mo2
Scythe Kaze Flex Slim: amzn.to/2JyzwGB
ID Cooling NO-12015 RGB: amzn.to/2IakZQY
The Case: amzn.to/2VvGUVS
The 120mm fans in the case: amzn.to/36yWkyT
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@ashleydoviak3334
@ashleydoviak3334 3 года назад
I love your coverage of nr200 and everything else you cover. Thanks so much
@TheEnst1
@TheEnst1 3 года назад
The presentation of your previous videos was straight forward and thorough, but I am genuinely surprised at how you manage to consistently make it better in every video of yours. It is clear thaf you put a lot of thought and effort into producing your content and we all appreciate that.
@jonathanvo18
@jonathanvo18 3 года назад
Bro I love you for doing these nr200 videos. Really helping me out as a first time builder
@rickmcintosh3570
@rickmcintosh3570 2 года назад
Stepped away from the pc world for 4 years and now I am back, thanks for catching me up to date.
@mauleymaule
@mauleymaule 2 года назад
I had to use the hack for my Arctic P12 Slim fans to be mounted on the bottom as when mounted via just screws, the fan was hitting the bottom of the case. I slid those rubber grommets through the bottom of the case and threaded the zip ties through that and fastened them there. It worked perfectly. Thank you for all of these informative NR200 videos.
@rakhithamanchanayaka6271
@rakhithamanchanayaka6271 3 года назад
Awesome man! I just built my first PC using an NR200 and it was heavily guided by your cool videos! I was wondering how to mount those top two fans and now it's solved too. Grateful for all your hard work. Thanks buddy!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
I am glad you found it helpful!
@cuttaryboi4877
@cuttaryboi4877 3 года назад
I am actually here because of your love you have shown the nr200, keep up the good work man! I would love to see your latest build and thoughts on thermal as I am working out a build my self and open to suggestions.
@jamesseelin7817
@jamesseelin7817 3 года назад
Exactly what I need right now, I just happen to take my chances and search for it here thinking I'm not gonna find anything but here you are, thank you!
@liberteus
@liberteus 3 года назад
Bought a NR200 because of Machines & More. ALL the information you need, and then some, is right here. I was able to mount my system in a few hours despite NOT touching a PC in over a decade, never done AIO before either... Everytime I have a search, something in mind I need an answer to... lo and behold, what's the first search result with highest relevancy? Machines & More!
@danielpan5530
@danielpan5530 3 года назад
I was just searching Noctua thin fan for my NR200 and you have already know what I want. Great job!!!
@AndreiE190
@AndreiE190 3 года назад
That was one of the ideas I was looking for. Used the first method myself initially, however! Be careful not to push those screws too far as you might damage the mesh grill up top. Mine has minor bumps now from this procedure 😬. Thanks again, Master200, or Machine200! That’s your official name now 😅
@corkyman24
@corkyman24 3 года назад
Your nr200 videos have been so helpful. Used the zip tie method, if anyone’s doing it and doesn’t want to use any of the tooless ssd mounts some rubber washers the same size were only $.33ea at my local hardware store
@Sebatech
@Sebatech 3 года назад
Just shrank my O11D build into an NR200, glad I found this video and your channel
@stupidcolten
@stupidcolten Год назад
Great videos covering this info and still staying under 10 min with more than enough knowledge to learn and perform on our own. Perfect video format! keep it up!
@norfahmi
@norfahmi 3 года назад
Your effort of helping 1st timer itx builder with NR200 is very helpful and I thank you for that. Liked and subsribed. Keep up sir.
@lighthunter1980
@lighthunter1980 3 года назад
Very nice video 👍 Had a clearance issue above the CPU cooler to fit another 120x25 fan. Bought the Noctua slim fan and this is the perfect tutorial to mount it securely.
@kennethkim1221
@kennethkim1221 3 года назад
I got an NR200 because of your videos! I've been watching your NR200 videos and they are great! Thanks for making these videos specially this slim fan "hack" as I am using an SFX-L PSU :)
@farezv
@farezv 3 года назад
This is an awesome channel. Just finished my 5900x build in the white nr200p and with a scythe fuma 2, it makes so much sense to get slim fans cuz the included cooler master fans are too bulky. Thanks!
@xnajx
@xnajx 2 года назад
I did this recently, thanks for the video! I only had larger zip ties on hand but managed to push them through the holes, although I found it easier to pop off the mesh panel.
@elijahj8101
@elijahj8101 3 года назад
Your video is truly a lifesaver! I couldn't for the life of me think of how to mount those slim fans out of what I had, and then boom! found this video, and followed the zip tie method. I already got the Noctua NH-U12A after watching your vids and now this. This channel just keeps on giving! Are you on Patreon or something, because I'd like to make a small contribution just to show my appreciation!
@cmaranjana
@cmaranjana 3 года назад
I'm almost done with my Honey Badger build and this is the final step. Thanks so much for all the incredible content!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Good to hear!
@stereodark
@stereodark 3 года назад
I was waiting for this video! I just got a couple of Scythe Kaze Slim 12mm but I didn’t find a way to mount them properly. This a awesome!! Thanks a lot
@asciiangel7583
@asciiangel7583 Год назад
the fans have been so confusing, that zip tie idea is genius!! :D
@dylanguerrero8053
@dylanguerrero8053 3 года назад
I've seen all your NR200 vids before my case is even in! I'm going to be SO prepared when i finally get it lol.
@dustierwand
@dustierwand 2 года назад
Really appreicate this video, been trying to figure out how to set up my low profile fans
@anthonyt7211
@anthonyt7211 3 года назад
Thank you for these videos!!! I can't wait to start building in my NR200p. Probably 2022 because it's pretty much impossible getting my hands on any reasonably priced CPU or GPU 😅.
@Spork888
@Spork888 3 года назад
Keep doing content about the NR200!
@tabbycatgames31
@tabbycatgames31 2 года назад
Thanks I had no idea how to put the fans on top
@calebgodsey7122
@calebgodsey7122 3 года назад
Great coverage - as always! more pls
@nathanjaker
@nathanjaker 3 года назад
I liked the text over the real life positions, that was helpful
@aaronmcneal1698
@aaronmcneal1698 2 года назад
Using 4 scythe slim fans on my side 480 radiator and running the Arctic slim for my top 360 and am really impressed with the Arctic being a fraction of the cost over the scythe
@Shaxitto
@Shaxitto 3 года назад
Amazing, this is exactly what I was looking for! I think I won't go down this route in the end (will probably go with full sized noctuas with more static pressure), but thank you for making this video nonetheless! Slim fans will go to the bottom to feed the GPU instead.
@fred_derf
@fred_derf 3 года назад
So you used tweezers to pull the tweezers through - I'm on the _Verge_ of calling that genius!
@b6s4shelter
@b6s4shelter 3 года назад
Ha!
@Callbeast
@Callbeast 3 года назад
This guy's a genius man lol.
@EnnTomi1
@EnnTomi1 3 года назад
bend the tip ahead of time, no tool needed.
@ray42
@ray42 3 года назад
In your post-build video, could you do a quick overview of setting up fans with one another and other components like the GPU? Great videos as always!
@OfficialRedTeamReview
@OfficialRedTeamReview 2 года назад
perfect. thank you so much!
@matd3055
@matd3055 3 года назад
I was just thinking of grinding off a bit from each of the toolless bolt things for the af12x15 fans so suit the depth of the slim fans.
@PabloHuerfano
@PabloHuerfano 3 года назад
Please make a video about the ATX psu in the NR200, I know a lot of us would find it amazing!
@damandan9825
@damandan9825 7 месяцев назад
The rods that go into the rubber grommets have two bumps if you cut the end of the rod off at the other bump it's perfect to mount thin fans
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 3 года назад
This is "fan"tastic. I should have tried tip ties, but I ended up using the stock toolless rods and grommets to fit a slim fan on the top. It fits perfectly in my case above my ATX PSU, even though the rods extend past the fan quite a bit. The PSU's power cable is right up against the fan grille. XP
@superpandabacon
@superpandabacon 3 года назад
Yes, the nr200 channel lol. Hope Coolermaster sends you more stuff
@denmaakujin9161
@denmaakujin9161 3 года назад
Cooler Master ambassador 😏 Hope they would sponsor you in the future because you make great content 😉
@CknSalad
@CknSalad 3 года назад
Cooler master should hire him as a community manager or tech salesman.
@azzatazizi8338
@azzatazizi8338 3 года назад
I dont know why, but your sweater looks cozy af.
@v000000000000v
@v000000000000v 3 года назад
it probably is
@Mr.DJones
@Mr.DJones 2 года назад
Thank you very much. I'm almost an expert... Almost. :) I learned that Esty has mounts for slim fans (4 for $7.00) I won't use the panel, but I think I'm going to buy the NR200P because of the top brackets.
@ouioui51100
@ouioui51100 3 года назад
I'm a fan of this channel
@b6s4shelter
@b6s4shelter 3 года назад
Interesting, I’m going to try this with the Fuma 2’s slim fan. Use the slim up top, and add a 25mm P12 to the Fuma 2. Curious to see how that works.
@goyohiga
@goyohiga 6 месяцев назад
Awesome, thanks
@williamsturgiss5275
@williamsturgiss5275 3 года назад
Loving the nr200 videos! I've been trying to figure out if a slim fan like this would work with the C14S as your cpu cooler. Have you test fitted that at all?
@arieltakom
@arieltakom 3 года назад
Thanks for making this video. Would you be able to do sort of a review video on that ID-Cooling slim RGB fans? Was thinking of buying them for my GPU deshroud mod as the current fans I have is the previous iteration of ID-cooling's slim fan, but without the RGB. I'm just thinking if the new fans are worth getting as I wanted to add some flair to my system.
@danmilliken8424
@danmilliken8424 3 года назад
I had a clearance issues as well. Mugen 5 with MSI B550i gaming edge WiFi in the NR200 with 25mm Arctic P12s on top. In my case, removing the fan grills from the mounting pegs (they unscrew), and bending the catch on the Mugen fan clip so it was flush got me just enough clearance. Nevertheless, this is a great guide for someone who may not have selected their top fans yet.
@supracal76
@supracal76 3 года назад
keen to see some pictures of this setup or even a quick video explaining how as I'm about to do the same
@L91
@L91 3 года назад
You can use the included rubber HDD mounting grommets
@NOSfusion
@NOSfusion 3 года назад
Clevis Pins (4mm X 25mm Flat Head) work great for slim Noctua fans and NR200.
@samgoff5289
@samgoff5289 3 года назад
Thanks for all the great content, specifically for this case. Any thoughts on the phantecks evolve shift air 2? Always thought the aesthetics were great and hope the updated model is improved temperatures
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
It's a really interesting tower design- I might check that one in the future but thermals with high TDP chips are my main concern due to the limited CPU cooling options. 120mm AIOs aren't exactly sufficient for some higher TDP chips and for air the best choice might be something like a Noctua L-12S or Scythe Big Shuriken 3, which would be fine for Ryzen 5 or 7, non-K intel.
@RickieBeubie
@RickieBeubie 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for all these extensive testing with the nr200, you're saving us a lot of time :) I would like to ask, did you (or anyone esle) tried to mount a CPU tower cooler horizontally (fans up/down instead of left/right) in order to follow the bottom to top airflow ? I'm curious about the performances but it's always annoying to remove thermal paste so if anyone already has a conclusion about it that would be awesome :)
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Fans up and down have a unique set of challenges. If air moves bottom to top, then you're bringing in GPU exhaust almost directly through the heatfins. If your air moves top to bottom, then you're placing that into the GPU's vicinity and also feeding the fans. So in a combined scenario I typically think that's a sub-optimal setup. If you only have a CPU, by all means, I think having a bottom to top airflow setup that way would be ideal.
@jameswubbolt7787
@jameswubbolt7787 3 года назад
Good job.thx.
@korezako3930
@korezako3930 3 года назад
Any chance you'll try to mount atx psu using the downloadable 3D printed bracket?
@WassimGhenima
@WassimGhenima 3 года назад
Hello guys. And thanks for the video. Just wondering was is the quivalent of those mechanical screws in metric "1 inch screw number 8"? Can't manage to find them in my supplies store in France
@NickBusscher
@NickBusscher 3 года назад
Thanks for the video! I have the regular NR200 with a RTX3070 (a fairly large one with 3 fans). Do you think placing two intake slim fans below the GPU (it's tight) is a good idea or should the GPU fans by itself be enough to suck in the air? (I run a liquid cooler for the CPU (Kraken X52) + one top exhaust fan (stock) + one rear exhaust fan (stock), temps are fine across the board)
@Fitografito
@Fitografito 3 года назад
Awesome video, noob question: do you think a noctua L9 or L9x65 makes a big impact with the cpu and gpu temps?
@warnacokelat
@warnacokelat 3 года назад
Get some automotive acrylic double sided tape and slap that on anywhere you want something to get mounted. It might feel like it will comes off in the beginning, but with time and some moderate heat generated by the system, pulling the fan from the tape will prove to be a challenge. And the thick double sided tape also acts as vibration dampener.
@jinwooshin5436
@jinwooshin5436 3 года назад
I have a question. 04:10 could you let me know what size of screw is ?
@jonathanvo18
@jonathanvo18 3 года назад
If I were to have a mugen 5 on a gigabyte b550i aorus pro ax, would I just have the one fan on the mugen or would the 92mm fan that comes with the nr200 go on the rear as well? Also should those fan(s) be intaking or exhausting?
@ouioui51100
@ouioui51100 3 года назад
I literrally post something on reddit yesterday asking the impact of a top fan above the C14s in the NR200...
@Diazor
@Diazor 3 года назад
Liked & Subbed - top video, brilliant mods, i bought an NR200P from the states as there were none available in the UK but it was well worth it! created my own AIO inside with a 45mm 240 Rad with 2x Rajintek Aeolus Beta's (RGB) and will add the GPU to the loop later so i can have the gpu mounted vertically with the glass panel on. I'm unavailable to do so at the moment as with an open air cooled GPU it just creates a heat trap.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Awesome Matthew. It sounds like you build a custom loop there my friend!
@4siyman
@4siyman 3 года назад
Really liking the NR200P coverage on the channel! If you can id like to see a video of potential ways to fit a top mount rad with slim fans. So far online is only coming up with forum posts with poor documentation and I think a youtube video showing if its possible/the ways to achieve would greatly benefit the community.
@Patrick_Felipe
@Patrick_Felipe 3 года назад
Etsy got some pretty interesting mods as well...also they are not that expensive either...maybe you can review some in the future...
@anonimatorweeb9238
@anonimatorweeb9238 2 года назад
What screws do you use to mount the slim noctua fans on top of the nr200?
@stephancardenas-navarro127
@stephancardenas-navarro127 3 года назад
Thank you so much for all the information and scenarios when building up with this Nr200 case... However I have a doubt, since the case supports both SFX and SFX-L psu, when you use the larger one, is there enough space for a normal top fan, or with this SFX-L you have to use a slim fan??
@Mcfa
@Mcfa 3 года назад
Hello Stephan. When using a SFX-L PSU the space between upper fan and PSU cable will be too small. On the Cooler Master Website there is a notification abou it. I tried a 15mm fan as shown in the video and it just fits. But I had to push the lid hard to get it closed. So I changed my SFX-L to a SFX in order to have an optimal cooling with a regular 25mm fan. But if u try the slim fan you definitely don't have the space for the fan grid.
@JCCFlying
@JCCFlying 3 года назад
Just about to purchase this case ( well 2 actually, one for gaming, one for work ) and wondered which AIO cooler you would recommend ? Great content by the way ;-)
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
J C, with the vented panel you have many many choices, too many to count. The out of the box pick for best thermals would be the Liquid Freezer 240, although it is a pretty tight fit. Any Asetek based unit is generally a good bet too, Corsair H100i or NZXT Kraken X units are quite popular. Personally if I were to run an AIO, my choice would be to use my old NZXT X52 with upgraded fans to Noctua NF-A12x25 (I know, strange to pick an older model right). It's a bit of a strange pick but the X52 has a built in fan controller and since the unit monitors coolant temp... you have the unique ability to index rad fans to coolant temp, something you can usually only do with a custom loop.
@sakkidis
@sakkidis 3 года назад
I am a laptop user. I don't even need a computer, but after watching these videos is have to build it in an nr200
@miro1931
@miro1931 3 года назад
How does the slim kaze flex compare to the noctua slim fan?
@golfgrouch
@golfgrouch 3 года назад
Have you tried using a clevis pin or even a nail to replicate the original mounting method for slim fans?
@ThePongo92
@ThePongo92 3 года назад
Hey man, this is amazing You should get the ATX PSU bracket for this case and test it, would be awesome! Thanks for the vid.
@PabloHuerfano
@PabloHuerfano 3 года назад
Yeah I also have a an ATX psu in my nr200 and I am curious to know what the best cooling solution with this quirk in setup would be!!!! Keep the nr200 content up we all love it! Our other sff build content.
@Quaddragon
@Quaddragon 3 года назад
I have a friend printing me some ATX psu brackets to go in my NR200 that just arrived yesterday. Which PSU did you all choose? I went with the Seasonic PX850. I think it's the best 140mm choice. I'll be using the Noctua C14S in my build. Hoping the ATX PSU will allow me to easily do Push Pull Noctua A14s. It's a bit cramped with the SFX psu mount. I was wondering if I should go with a top fan in the CPU area. With the upper ATX bracket I'm pretty sure I won't be able to get a fan in the Top fan slot over the PSU. I guess we will find out soon.
@MrPilotRose
@MrPilotRose 3 года назад
If he is going to test an ATX PSU bracket it might as well be this one: www.etsy.com/listing/881894816/customized-and-improved-cooler-master
@PabloHuerfano
@PabloHuerfano 3 года назад
@@Quaddragon Yeah currently I just have the stock amd cooler but I've bought a couple different air coolers and AIOs and just need some time to try to figure out what I want too keep. I actually don't even have a psu bracket and just zip-tied (I know I know super sketch) the PSU into place for now. I would prefer to use a bracket like the one @Casey Rose mentioned to keep the psu in the original position, instead of the official coolermaster one that moves it to the front panel. The etsy one would even allow for an AIO but I just don't know if I am doing an AIO or air cooler yet. I have to many variables still undecided. Hence why if Machines & More made a video on both psu mounts and the temps I would be thrilled!!!!!
@PabloHuerfano
@PabloHuerfano 3 года назад
@@MrPilotRose I wish the etsy seller would post the stl files, though I'm sure whipping up my own version wouldn't be that hard.
@itrynano2048
@itrynano2048 3 года назад
Thanos "i used the tweezers to pull the tweezers"
@leearden5289
@leearden5289 3 года назад
hey bro, i've got 2 question. Can one of these small fan fit on the other side of your Sycthe Mugen 5 cooler? If it does, does it make the scythe mugen 5 perform better as it is now in a push pull config. Another question is, why is the scythe fan facing inwards? is it because thers no way the hot air can go away if it is set as exhaust?
@eddyhaze8239
@eddyhaze8239 2 дня назад
I ended up taking the mesh off and putting screws in from the top it feels like it will hold just fine but a little worried about it ,maybe I will add a dab of silicone on corners
@ranakirti
@ranakirti 2 года назад
Can we place them in top without using the grills..? Thanks
@j4ckcalico
@j4ckcalico 3 года назад
I would love to see a comparison between the recommended x2 bottom intake + x2 top exhaust with all four NF-A12x25 PWM fans versus all four NF-A12x15-PWM fans.
@musti_a
@musti_a 3 года назад
Definitely would be interesting to see if there actually is a big enough difference. Would also love to see the same fan setup with 4x noctua vs 4x artic fans to compare noise/temp levels. One noctua fan costs as much as a 5x pack of arctic p12 fans.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Slim fans vs 25mm fans? The only difference would be how high you can run the slims at the same noise level, since the A12x15s move as much air as something like an NF-F12x25 at the same RPMs. The A12x25s are dead quiet at 1200 RPM while the slims are very audible. At 1000 RPM? Noise difference is marginal. Will it matter for system thermals for 1200 RPM vs 1000 RPM? To an extent but it might not be worth the cost of the additional cost of the 25mm fans. The fit with your GPU and your other components is what would really drive that decision, I think.
@j4ckcalico
@j4ckcalico 3 года назад
​@@MachinesMore When the AIO's pump is using 1 fan header, the AIO's fans (with Y splitter) are using 1 other fan header, and there is only 1 fan header left for the 4 case fans would you recommend using x4 A12x15s or x2 A12x15s + x2 A12x25s? And how would you connect them (daisy chain with 3 Y splitters, fan hub...)?
@Argooh
@Argooh 3 года назад
Guys I just found a listing for some new Artic P12 15mm (Slim), 120mm fans. They are all black and released on the 15th of January. I pre-ordered 2 of them at £10.99 per fan. I trust they will be great value. Just a heads up as I don't think many know about them.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Thanks for checking in with the info- will try and review these.
@muhaimi92
@muhaimi92 3 года назад
Will bottom fan disrupt/foul the airflow to GPU because of different fans size and speed?
@carlwells9504
@carlwells9504 3 года назад
A potential video idea would be to make a best value build that would suit mid range budget systems where every buck towards that GPU helps. My system is a good example Ryzen 5 2600 with stock fan and GTX1660 Super in a NR200. So where best to spend money with cooling - if any?
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
That is a very good idea... I'll put together a parts list for that and explore. For 1080 gaming, unless competitive titles, what you have right there will still work for a long time. In fact the "father and son" gaming rig I built features the 2600 and 1660S also. That will get rebuilt in a new case on the channel shortly.
@iridom1
@iridom1 6 месяцев назад
could i fit 2 arctic p12 pst with a frozn a410 cpu cooler?
@toygunkizilmese4173
@toygunkizilmese4173 3 года назад
...Whatever that model name is..🤣🤣 that moment made me subscribe :d
@Dracken09
@Dracken09 3 года назад
So I'm thinking I messed up. I purchased the NR200 based on your great reviews. But, I also bought a be quiet dark rock tf cooler. My plan was to have 2x120mm fans at the top and a 92mm fan on the side. It looks like that's not at all possible with my current setup. Running an asus z370i mb.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
The big top down coolers often prevent the top fan and rear exhaust 92mm from working. However the direction of airflow from top down coolers is already utilizing those two paths as exhausts, especially if you have rad panel fans and bottom intakes. So, it would be nice to have those fans but it’s not the worst setup to not have them.
@Dracken09
@Dracken09 3 года назад
@@MachinesMore Thank you!
@ttttttttttttttttist
@ttttttttttttttttist 3 года назад
You can also 3d print smaller pins
@shallpion
@shallpion 2 года назад
just un-clip the mesh top and screw the fans the usual way. It is not something you change everyday so I don't mind the extra trouble, and it is super secure :)
@pelahale
@pelahale 3 года назад
you're my new favorite channel. What's your name - do a little intro of yourself.
@PauloVarella1
@PauloVarella1 3 года назад
Hello, very good videos. Is there any chance to have a 120mm radiator above the psu?
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
I believe so but will require the right rad and fan, possibly a little modding too. Will cover that in a custom loop build soon.
@D1craigRob
@D1craigRob 3 года назад
I'm going to get one of these cases. But I really don't wsnt to downgrade my pump that I have in my current case. Do you reckon you could figure out a way to get a d5 FLT pump res combo to fit in that case with 1 radiator and gpu and cpu blocks? I am going to do 2 external 360mm radiators so colling isn't an issue just don't want the pump outside the case.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
The d5 flt is a tough fit due to the thickness, unfortunately the shape doesn’t play well with the case and PSU placement. A traditional cylindrical pump res fits well, or the DDC version is a much better fit. I want to say it might be possible just to swap pumps with the D5/DDC res.
@KokopelliSG
@KokopelliSG 3 года назад
Will a slim fan for above an SFX-L power supply?
@SocramZ
@SocramZ 3 года назад
Important info. You will have mugen 5 clearance issues with the top fan if you use the GIGABYTE Aorus Pro AX, as the CPU socket sits quite high in the MB. If you use ASUS B550 I GAMING then you wont have issues, as the CPU socket sits lower.
@darlingwind
@darlingwind 3 года назад
Do you have a review of the 4 slim fans you recommended? I couldn't find one on your channel. If you do not, which fan would you recommend in terms of noise, airflow, static pressure etc? Which fan is your favourite and how would you rank the rest? Thank you!
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Performance wise, the Noctua slim is the best, but they are also the most expensive, As a case fan though, any of these will do well, but I think the only reason to go for the ID cooling one is if you want RGB. If you can get the Kaze Flex Slims those would be the best balance of cost and performance.
@darlingwind
@darlingwind 3 года назад
@@MachinesMore Thank you for your helpful response. The community appreciates you!
@nuclearmonster
@nuclearmonster 3 года назад
Another way to remove zipties, if you want to preserve them, is to poke a pin in-between the locking mechanism and the excess plastic
@josephkim1
@josephkim1 3 года назад
Howdy sir. I was wondering if you knew what the cpu cooler clearance was in the nr200 if you have a graphics card mounted vertically. I like the look of it but i also like air cooling so i was wondering if it would be possible. love your work
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
It’s about 75mm, so it’s not ideal at all for air cooling. Too little circulation in front of a low profile cooler. Liquid cooling is the way to go!
@josephkim1
@josephkim1 3 года назад
@@MachinesMore ok, thanks for the tip!
@JonathanIvy221
@JonathanIvy221 3 года назад
So the NR200 comes with fan extension and it has one cable that is colored which I am guessing is for RPM reading? Can you tell me which fan you have connected to that? The bottom fans?
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Correct- the red is a 4 pin which gives the readout. If you’re using the same fans on the splitter then any one will do, in general you’ll get a very close estimate for the others. If they’re dissimilar, then that’s when you have to pick and choose. If the RPM ranges of the fans are vastly different and you don’t intend on the RPM being very different then I would not recommend having them on the same header anyway. If the RPM range is close enough then I personally don’t think it matters, just pick one fan so you can get an idea of the speed.
@gutchynsky
@gutchynsky 3 года назад
Are slim 120mm fans a bad idea as an bottom intake? I was planning on using two a12x25's on the top and two a12x15's on the bottom with a 3080 FE, but heard the temps are better when using static pressure optimised fans, which the a12x15's don't seem to be. So there's the question, is it better to have thicker fans, closer to the gpu or slimmer fans, i'm asking in case there could be some sort of turbulence caused by the fans being so close to the gpu and so on.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
The A12x15 are great, not as high static pressure as the NF-F12 but can typically move as much air on a noise normalized basis. My preference would be to run whatever fan gives you at least 7mm of a gap. 2 slot cards, 25mm fans. 3 slot cards, you might only be able to run slim fans. They’re not cooling the GPU directly, their role is more to give the GPU fans a better source of cool air, so they don’t have to run fast.
@lucky-productions
@lucky-productions 3 года назад
before I go buying slim fans, can anyone confirm these will fit with SFX-L PSU?
@mrgndx
@mrgndx 3 года назад
Thank you! So SFX-L PSU will allow only slim fan above it?
@mrgndx
@mrgndx 3 года назад
@@maddads6492 Thank you so much!
@mrgndx
@mrgndx 3 года назад
@@maddads6492 on the positive side, SFX-L has a larger 120mm fan, which should be quieter :)
@elnandowongkar5703
@elnandowongkar5703 3 года назад
can you please build using ATX PSU in cooler master nr200?? thank you
@PabloHuerfano
@PabloHuerfano 3 года назад
I know the sffpc subreddit would love that video including myself
@fuglong
@fuglong 3 года назад
Will a slim fan fit on top of the c14s??? Can't find this info anywhere
@ouioui51100
@ouioui51100 3 года назад
Hi, it depends on your motherboard, for example Gigabyte B450/B550i doesn't allow it but the Strix B500i and some others do
@fuglong
@fuglong 3 года назад
@@ouioui51100 dang, I just ordered the Gigabyte B550i. Thanks for the info! I might try to see if I can Gerry rig it, might even just put the fan on top lol
@mcatrane
@mcatrane 3 года назад
pcpartpicker.com/b/QCCLrH this build use a slim top fan with B550i Aorus and C14S. He had to wiggle things so they all will fit
@nelsonechevarria7009
@nelsonechevarria7009 3 года назад
I bought a prebuilt PC from ebay and although it was a really good deal the surprise came when I started to upgrade the prebuilt PC.First of all I never knew that I could learn to hate small cases,the case that the prebuilt PC came in is terrible in that it is very hard to get in and out of the case.Small cases have their place and purpose but for the life of me I cannot understand why anyone building a high end PC would opt to use a small PC case.Even the mid tower cases are difficult for me to navigate in because I have big thick hands and what's more small and mid tower cases have a nasty tendency to obstruct air flow on top of being very difficult to get in and out of.Even owning a blower to dust out the PC case is no guarantee of cleaning small and mid PC cases properly because sooner or later it will get to a point where it will become necessary to take the cooling fans out and clean the cooling fans and the inside of the PC case thoroughly in order to get the cooling fans and the inside of the PC case as clean as the inside of the PC case should be.Dust filters are a great help in keeping dust out of PCs but even with the dust filters it is often necessary to clean out the cooling fans and the PC case at some point in time.Call me a snob but I will not ever again bother with any small or mid size PC case.The PC case in the above video looks to me like it's being choked of the necessary air needed to keep the PC components cool,I could be wrong but I doubt it and what's more it should never be necessary to bend any part of a PC case or alter any PC component to make things fit.If you're going to spend so much money on quality PC parts it seems foolish to use a small or mid PC case where you will need to force things to fit.Thank you for the video,God bless you and your family.I'm a licensed firearms owner and I get annoyed hearing people talk about this or that part makes a firearm heavier,hell,in the middle of an emergency where a person is forced to use his/her firearm do you think it's going to make any difference if a firearm part is a bit heavier when the person's adrenaline level is so high and the person is so worked up having to face one or several home invaders?"Oh,I don't like this/I don't like that.",what in the hell have we as Americans become,a bunch of limp wrist pansies?Do you think criminals or home invaders are going to stop in their tracks and admire your firearm being lighter than their firearm?I understand about space constraints but if you can make space for your big screen TV there is no reason why you can't make space for a PC case that will properly accomodate and fit the PC components without denying the PC components adequate airflow.If spending $500.00,$600.00 or more on a graphics card just to cram the graphics card into a tiny PC case where the graphics card will be denied the airflow that the graphics card needs in order to function properly isn't the epitome of stupidity then I don't know what is.Look at how extremely cramped that graphics card and the other PC components are in that tiny ass PC case,are you kidding me?You're joking,right?"Oh,my tiny PC case looks so cool." when the reality is that your tiny ass PC case is on the verge of catching fire and burning your house down because that tiny ass PC case is forcing the PC components to run much hotter than the PC components should be running from lack of proper air ventilation.You can abuse and berate me all you want but you will never catch me spending so much money on a graphics card or on any high dollar PC component just to cram it into a tiny ass PC case like that and risk losing my money.From what I have read PC components are designed to work andinstalled a certain way.Unlike many people I do not suffer from the bad habit of not reading instructions and I have yet to read instructions where PC component manufacturers say that it's okay to cram PC components into tiny cases where the PC components will never get enough air flow.I registered my new Gigabyte aorus b550 ac wifi motherboard for the warranty and I was asked all kinds of questions including the product number of my amd ryzen 3600x cpu,which cpu cooler I am using,the brand and output wattage of my new power supply,the brand and amount of memory that I am using and yes,even the brand and model number of the PC case that I am using,coincidence?I seriously doubt it.
@MachinesMore
@MachinesMore 3 года назад
Nelson, thank you for taking the time to write a very thoughtful comment. I can appreciate that argument and I don't think you should ever build in a case you don't feel comfortable with. This channel features many products that are designed around small form factor computing. I do think there is a point where things are too small for their own good, but popular small form factor cases generally don't hit that point yet. In fact because of the way the case airflow can be designed in SFF, they allow for the builder to selectively place fans to really take advance of direct airflow. The best example for this is case fans close to a graphics card. It might not seem that way- and it does take some experimentation to see what works- but SFF cases can work very very well. Just an observation- one attribute of consumer behavior, in general there are people that choose products based on the 99% of the time they use them, and some people choose based on the 1% of the time they use them. So, to use your own example, some folks buy a firearm for self-defense and never bother to train with it (not good), in that scenario they hopefully never use it. Then all the features in the world might never matter to them. Perhaps all that matters in the most critical scenario is if that first round fires when that trigger is pulled, never mind how it cycles, right? The criteria for purchasing in that scenario is very different than someone who plans to run it all the time. Some folks treat it as a hobby or recreation, for the majority of the time they are operating it out on the range they would much rather have the lighter weight and better user experience. I will also point out that generally it's not recommended to keep a modded firearm for self-defense purposes, both from a legal and reliability standpoint. Most folks that do mod do keep something else stock for that specific purpose. For PC components you often see the same argument. Some folks like AIOs because when they work they give really good performance, even though there is a bigger possibility or failure. Some folks like air coolers perhaps because of their simplicity and reliability. Whatever it is, everyone has their reason to make their purchasing decision and it's not necessarily wrong or right, it's just a different way to evaluate a product. If you like a large case because it satisfies your computing needs and you feel comfortable with it 100% of the time, that's great. You'll also find many folks that are extremely happy with their SFF case, and while you might hear occasional reports of components overheating in a sub-optimal case, the internet isn't exactly littered with stories of melting components either. To each their own, thanks for sharing and whatever it is that you build, happy computing.
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