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Slingshot Band Tuning with the Slingshot Canon! 

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Band tuning. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to overstate how important band tuning is.
As we mentioned in part 1 of this series, bands can really be a conundrum. We send out 7/16 bandsets which are overpowered for almost all enthusiasts who shoot many hundreds of lighter-weight rounds with matched (lighter) bandsets.
But . . . since we (SimpleShot) bring thousands of NEW shooters into the sport for the first time, we have to consider the desire of first-time shooters. You guessed it. They want POWER and when you don't give them power, they tell their friends that slingshots are dumb.
So that's the conundrum.
But there's an answer: tuning.
Our 7/16 bandsets are more latex (energy) than you need for most projectiles. But it's OK. Here, we demonstrate that even a fat band can shoot a 3/8 steel round at s l o w speeds or at a nice clip with just a simple snip of the bands.
Join us in this live demo of the speed possibilities of one bandset shooting 3/8 steel!
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Комментарии : 147   
@andrewhanke8576
@andrewhanke8576 Год назад
This is by far the best video on explaining how to tune the bands. Thank you for explaining this so well. I have been shooting about 7 years and this was still beneficial to watch. Excellent work.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you and you are very welcome.
@skiddwister9143
@skiddwister9143 Год назад
A company that does more than pump out products. Love your videos.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you! Our support does not end when you buy the product. We want to see you enjoy the sport as well!
@pinkyellowblue007
@pinkyellowblue007 Месяц назад
I'm really glad I ordered a slingshot from you, you have the greatest support of any company. These videos are answering all my questions as a beginner.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Месяц назад
Thank you for your support. Glad to help!
@angiestoner545
@angiestoner545 Год назад
Thanks, Nathan, for this video was very informative. I will keep this in mind when cutting my bands. Thank you..
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@threestarsandasling
@threestarsandasling Год назад
Couldn't have demonstrated it any better. Brilliant video Nathan!👍
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@darrellallen7931
@darrellallen7931 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic video on band tuning, tks Nathan for all that SimpleShot does for this sport. 👍
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 5 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it, it is our pleasure!
@benpriestman4015
@benpriestman4015 Год назад
quite literally the most advanced and scientific demo on bands ever done.................. Brilliant stuff Nathan!!!!!!!!!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@kennyl9419
@kennyl9419 Год назад
With every video I learn something new. Keep them coming.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@thefloorstalker6064
@thefloorstalker6064 Год назад
Super video... Great demo... Thanks much
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome.
@XspeedXracerX
@XspeedXracerX Год назад
Thank you... and very informative! New shooter here. Just purchased the Scout from you guys. Was a very nice package deal with 500 clay shots and 3 sets of bands. Will purchase again!
@randycassidy198
@randycassidy198 Год назад
Awesome setup Nathan!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@Hoggy1963
@Hoggy1963 Год назад
SWEET, thanks Nathan
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome.
@grahamfisher2566
@grahamfisher2566 Год назад
Right now this geezer is without doubt number one in a field of one. Excellent video; informative and so entertainingly presented. Plus I learnt a lot, which is the whole point. I live across the pond on the English/Welsh border and there is just nothing comes close to this sort of stuff around here. Many thanks.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@advisortomen
@advisortomen Год назад
Well done. Very helpful
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@axsomoutdooradventures
@axsomoutdooradventures Год назад
Good stuff, Mr Masters. Super interesting visual explanation.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@canvandal4503
@canvandal4503 Год назад
Great breakdown! Love it!👊🙏
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@Faustj515
@Faustj515 Год назад
Your cannon is neat and the data is clear. It would be good to see draw weight included in your data and data for your other band sets also. Perhaps that is planned in the near future. Your educational component is a great service for all of us.
@ZaneDargaty
@ZaneDargaty Год назад
And maybe include this information as part of the sales information. Standardize on a 30" draw and with this size ammo and this length bandset this is the speed you can expect.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
That will vary with different temps and elongation factors.
@sandstorm6605
@sandstorm6605 Год назад
Informative presentation. Really nicely done. That’s some rig too! Very cool. It’d be really neat shoulder mounted! 😜
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thanks! 👍
@catorcelokon7837
@catorcelokon7837 3 месяца назад
“Wyd this weekend bro” Me: tuning my bands bro😂
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 3 месяца назад
🤣🤣🤣
@macmyers8143
@macmyers8143 Год назад
Excellent, really excellent!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@lorenzocasabar1747
@lorenzocasabar1747 Год назад
Nice to know the positive outcome that it can do, very good information Mahalo Nathan
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@ShaunPanzer
@ShaunPanzer 29 дней назад
Great Video
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 28 дней назад
Thanks!
@mikemiles3068
@mikemiles3068 Год назад
Great video and I just received my New SCOUT X and order from SIMPLE-SHOT today. I ordered 1/4” Steel Shot and .7 MM Band set that I intend to leave at Full 10” to make the draw pull as light as possible because of a shoulder injury, I watched many of your videos and I hope I selected the correct combinations.
@Faustj515
@Faustj515 Год назад
You are kind of missing the point. You would be much better off using a band set that SimpleShot sells that is sized for 1/4 inch ammo or one designed to shoot 5/16 ammo. I would size them to get an elongation factor of 4. You will have the light draw that you are looking for but get much higher velocities. The 5/16 band set will last longer than the 1/4 inch set and both will draw easier than the .7 band.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much. You should get the Lite Flat Bands 1/4" for the 1/4" Steel Ammo. It will be much more pleasant to shoot. The Standard Flat Bands 7/16" are much too strong for 1/4" Steel Ammo.
@armandogonzales9304
@armandogonzales9304 Год назад
Good Video. I am now shooting 5x elongation on all my frames. Accuracy is the diameter of a soda can at 20 ft.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much. That is great to hear!
@tonykenaston4048
@tonykenaston4048 Год назад
Great informative video. More new content on band tuning for novice shooters., please. Old videos are all good just like to see your face. Perhaps, cover the differing thicknesses offered and how that is useful.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Год назад
I tuned my bands to my 26" pull. I wish I could tune my air rifle as easily !!! Thanks Nathan. - Mike in California.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome! Glad it helped!
@sf2998
@sf2998 8 месяцев назад
Great video! 500% elongation might not sound like much, but for some type of bands and taper setup 500% is alot and will break the band quickly.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 8 месяцев назад
it just depends on the latex.
@MrPatrick7777
@MrPatrick7777 Год назад
Thank you for sharing this. It is very difficult to explain tuning.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome.
@pinggolfdog
@pinggolfdog Год назад
Great visual.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@irmaztamal21
@irmaztamal21 Год назад
I was advice by Slingshot Malaysia 🇲🇾 Admin back in year 2021 to cut my band length from range 180 mm to 140 mm to achieve more power... and yes it really works.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Yes, it will just depend on your draw length.
@chrisd933
@chrisd933 Год назад
Great video!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@S.Y-a-ok
@S.Y-a-ok Год назад
Very interesting. Thanks.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Very welcome, glad you liked it.
@georgecross8424
@georgecross8424 Год назад
Nice video, I'm liking that set up , it's vary informative, I've always set my bands at 7 1/4, it just feels good for me and I get pretty good accuracy with that, at about 50ft
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Awesome! If it's not broke, don't fix it, right?
@mehmetkupeli8611
@mehmetkupeli8611 Год назад
Great video ! Thanks.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are welcome! Thank you so much.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are welcome! Thank you so much.
@the-catty-cult
@the-catty-cult Год назад
There may have been a slightly higher speed with the last shot if it wasn't stretched for as long a time as it was. I tend to hold my draw for 5 seconds as it seems to slow the bands down a fraction to stop me shooting over the top of the target. We need a really scientific video testing band length, tapers, time held and any other variables smarter people can think of😂. Another great video nathen
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@paulhampson8496
@paulhampson8496 Год назад
enjoyed that short draw is for me shoot 22 x 16 150 working lenth .55 falcon no bake bean can is cheers Nathan
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@RikklesFisher
@RikklesFisher Год назад
Great info! I would love to see a video where you try and seek out the most velocity, as a slingshot hunter I have been playing around with ammo and bands, I use .7mm and 7/16 ammo but I'd still love more power. I think I'm going to find my ideal setup with .6mm tapered bands and 3/8th ammo but I would love any suggestions.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Play with different elongations to find your ideal sweet spot.
@westsenkovec
@westsenkovec Год назад
This just goes to show that sometimes less is more in terms of performance and six inches is pretty much the ideal length.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
That just depends on the users draw length. 6 inches could be way to long for a shooter with say a 26 inch draw length. If they are after speed, they will need to trim it down some more.
@markberlinger4851
@markberlinger4851 8 месяцев назад
That’s what my wife tells me too
@reTro2k7
@reTro2k7 Год назад
Thanks, very good video
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Glad you liked it! We hope it helped.
@TravelingAnvil
@TravelingAnvil Год назад
Heyyy! Using your other videos I trimmed mine to an 8 inch band! Super cool to see the feeling validated with a Chrono and data!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
That's awesome!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
That's awesome!
@marshalldunlap8358
@marshalldunlap8358 Год назад
Impressive demonstration. Unfortunately, I start to lose accuracy if I cut my bands too short because my arms can’t hold the fork steady and I speed bump pinch the pouch. Thanks for the excellent video.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much and you are very welcome.
@DrummerJez86
@DrummerJez86 Год назад
could you do a similar thing but a few different ammo sizes per thickness of rubber to prove your ammo size to rubber thickness relationship you are always talking about ? would be cool to see. and another one measuring impact force lol.. slingshot science
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You will see more tests in the future.
@slingshotamatiran
@slingshotamatiran Год назад
👍
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Glad you liked it.
@jordanmorris4220
@jordanmorris4220 Год назад
So whatever your draw length is divided (÷) that number by 5 for optimum power? Great vid Nathan 👌
@james6028
@james6028 Год назад
for optimum power you want to be at the max elongation for whatever elastic you are using. probably closer to 6x but your bands wont last very long and the draw weight will be very heavy!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
It will depend on the max elongation of the latex. 500% is ideal for band life vs speed for our latex we sell and use for bands.
@gazzabyerun9048
@gazzabyerun9048 Год назад
Thank you for showing this, you should sell that tuning jig, or do you have a video showing how to build one? I bought a couple of your sling shots, enjoying them very much!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you, we do not have the Slingshot Cannon for sale. If another one is built, maybe we can record it. 😉
@gazzabyerun9048
@gazzabyerun9048 Год назад
@@simpleshot 🎯Awesome , thank you!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome.
@senorali
@senorali 8 месяцев назад
That's a great testing rig. Do you have any details on the catch mechanism you're using? Are the forks using torsion springs, with the trigger wedging the forks apart to fire?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 7 месяцев назад
Yes, it uses the typical firing mechanism for slingshot rifles that spreads apart to fire.
@bleikrsound6127
@bleikrsound6127 Год назад
Hi Nathan, new to the hobby - I’m sure you’ve had this Q before - how many times have you been slapped in the face with malfunctioning bands?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
With proper watching this should never occur.
@bleikrsound6127
@bleikrsound6127 Год назад
@@simpleshot Ok, I assumed you would have had a few anecdotes of mishaps during product development. I am enjoying the hobby, and your extensive information has shortened the learning curve. Thanks!
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You are very welcome. We are happy to help.
@lordgarion514
@lordgarion514 8 месяцев назад
With tapered bands, the weakest link is the connection at the pouch. But I saw a video where a Chinese wood and metal slingshot broke and it came back at him. "Fowlers" something was the channel.
@datnotme9921
@datnotme9921 Год назад
⚡👍⚡
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you.
@larrycox6614
@larrycox6614 Год назад
At what minimum FPS rating would you "generally" consider to be appropriate for hunting; accuracy and shot placement being a given requirement?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
The distance that it will penetrate a steel bean can. The velocity will drop over distance, so it is best to use this test.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel 9 месяцев назад
Aren't steel beans diffucultr to chew?@@simpleshot
@thcj3593
@thcj3593 Месяц назад
Latex war unterschiedlich lange gespannt 😢
@jeffshearer5125
@jeffshearer5125 10 месяцев назад
Mabey i missed it ,what weight ammo was you shooting. Good video and information 👌
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 10 месяцев назад
This was with the 7/16" bandset and ammo.
@rajaahmudally6809
@rajaahmudally6809 Год назад
I just bought an axiom Will the ball bearing inside the plugs rust when in contact with water?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Yes, they can rust.
@kevinmoran-ji2zl
@kevinmoran-ji2zl Год назад
Get good with a slingshot and put two in your bug out bag. Extra bands of course.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
You know it!
@Beanflip
@Beanflip Год назад
👍🏼😎👍🏼🏆🎯🎯🎯
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@redneckewhitetrashbluecollar
Your ammo weight will effect all this as well .
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
This is assuming you have bands matched for the ammo weight that you are shooting, the results will be similar. If mismatched to the ammo lots of power can be lost. This test is with our Standard Flat Bands 7/16" using 7/16" Steel Ammo.
@dillongenoe281
@dillongenoe281 5 месяцев назад
With this being stated should you still tune bands specifically for clay ammo ??
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 5 месяцев назад
Yes, you will still want to trim the Clay Shooting Flat Bands the same way.
@ADHobbyDisorder
@ADHobbyDisorder 6 месяцев назад
That was with 3/8 ammo? How fast would 7/16 ammo be going with those bands at 5x elongation?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 6 месяцев назад
Speeds will vary with the draw length one has. Someone with a 28 inch draw at 5x elongation will not shoot as fast as someone with a 36 inch draw length a=using a 5x elongation.
@ignatiuslaurent58
@ignatiuslaurent58 8 месяцев назад
I would like to know what size ball bearings you was using for this test .
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 8 месяцев назад
This was with 3/8" Steel Ammo.
@edwardzacharijr8892
@edwardzacharijr8892 10 месяцев назад
Should my clay practice ammo weigh the same as my target ammo? Clay ammo is 3/8 ths of an inch and aprox 1 gram and 1/4 th of an inch steel is aprox 1 gram. So more weight than size matters is that correct?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 10 месяцев назад
Yes, the weight is what you want to pay attention to. You got it!
@teamtls
@teamtls 7 месяцев назад
Hi Nathan. I just bought a scout LT and trying to work out the band length. Your calculations are for a 30" draw length but how do I make the calculation as I have a 32.5 inch draw length? Kind regards.
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 7 месяцев назад
Here is a link that should help. simple-shot.com/pages/slingshot-faqs#reamaze#0#/kb/slingshot-bands-and-bandsets/band-tuning-how-to-measure-my-bands-tune-my-bands-and-shoot-fastest
@brutallindigo
@brutallindigo Год назад
Are all elastics use the 5 rule?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
No, different brands of latex will have different elongation factors.
@mayjoserna6665
@mayjoserna6665 Год назад
Informacion de primer nivel
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@dillongenoe281
@dillongenoe281 3 месяца назад
So serious question I have the scout x and find that it’s super consistent with clay ammo and clay bands but I’ve recently switched to 7/16 bands with 11mm steel and it’s still consistent but the sight reference is way off I can group solid just not actually hit what I want any suggestions
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 3 месяца назад
You may need to change your anchor point. You can also shorten your bands but the 7/16" Steel Ammo will drop at a closer distance since it is heavier than the Clay Ammo.
@abdullahskht
@abdullahskht Год назад
I need one ?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
Thank you so much.
@gblan
@gblan Год назад
What is the weight of the ammo you were using?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot Год назад
This will apply to all bandsets matched to ammo but need to be trimmed. The ammo was the 7/16" steel ammo and the Standard Flat Bands 7/16" matched to the 7/16" steel ammo.
@Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv
@Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv 3 месяца назад
Size of bb used plz?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 2 месяца назад
This was the Heavy Duty Flat Bands 7/16" with 7/16" Steel Ammo.
@Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv
@Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv 2 месяца назад
@@simpleshot Can I use heavier bands with those 11mm steel balls? Will it give more fps?
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 2 месяца назад
You will need to test it. There are factors like outside air temperature that will affect the performance. Most of the time, the bands with the least amount of latex needed will shoot the fastest.
@walterdzukola2420
@walterdzukola2420 8 месяцев назад
The brand name of your chronograph, please ????
@simpleshot
@simpleshot 8 месяцев назад
It is a Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph.
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