Sly Cooper PS5 & PS3 Comparison - PlayStations NEW PS2 Emulator 

It’s worth mentioning that The Sly Collection has its own issues. Sly 1 has redone music, which ruined the sync in the Mz. Ruby boss fight. Sly 2 and 3 don’t have proper widescreen support, the binocucom and black cinematic bars don’t reach the edge of the screen.

Porting classic games to PS4/PS5 with little emulator menus added, sold for 10 bucks a pop is such a great formula for bringing back classic games in my opinion. Despite the new features and whatnot being pretty simple, it doesn't take too much time and resources to do, so Sony can price it low and consider it a worthwhile investment even if it doesn't sell ridiculously well. And, above everything else, spending $10 to OWN the game instead of spending $160 a year to stream it, is the whole reason why people are way more excited about this than when the PS3 ports were added back in 2022.

RU-vid algorithm being better to me than my notifications, dropped 1 minute ago and at the *TOP* of my feed

While it is a tad disappointing that they didn't do too much to the game, I'd rather have it how it was on PS2 than a potentially messed up version(like the GTA Definitive Trilogy). I'd also rather have the original preserved, and then get a Remake later on(hopefully).

It appears clear that PS5 version is bilinear upscaled 480p while PS3 is native 720p, so the PS3 version has superior resolution, and if outlines are tied to resolution, that could explain why Sly's outlines are weaker on PS3.

4:3 is not a bad thing. It’s how the games are supposed to look

I mean. Some could argue the OG PS2 version is better as opposed to the PS3 collection. I mean its been argued for years for the Ratchet & Clank Collection. I'm fine with what we got.

RU-vid knew they needed to push this to us FAST, gotta see my boy sly cooper on the new consoles

It's funny hearing you say it has all the 'enhancements' of the PS3 version while showing gameplay of the Ms. Ruby boss fight😂😂 (Just funny timing)

The thing about RPCS3 is it's still unstable. It can run, but you're not guaranteed stability. I played Sly 1, ripped from my own disc, on RPCS3, and it crashed on me a few times. It's still in Alpha after all. Even if emulation is possible, that doesn't mean it's good enough for a commercial use.

Imagine all of the Ratchet & clank collections of the games all on PS5 I will buy that in a heart beat.

Honestly, I think it's great to see the PS2 version preserved as much as possible with the PS4/5 release. While widescreen would have been nice, the PS2 original holds up really well to this day and it's worth giving a shot.

I did buy the game as it’s really cheap and it will show Sony that clearly these older titles need to be brought back to the modern era and given a much better treatment I mean hell who’s to say they can’t update sly 1 when they see people aren’t completely happy to see it’s just the ps2 port instead of the ps3 and give them a much higher resolution and frames per second. Still me bitching aside I’m just glad to see my favorite raccoon come back same way we all get excited for kingdom hearts to be ported basically everywhere lol

Cynical you've made a HUGE mistake by failing to mention how many HUGE bugs the PS3 version has and that's the reason why the PS2 version is vastly superior because it does NOT have all those bugs. The slight resolution increase is NOT worth all the bugs that come with it, and that's a message you should be spreading. The number of them is very large and they are quite bad, the wiki page lists a lot of them but I can list a few of the biggest ones off the top of my head right now. 1. During the intro when you boot up the game, Sly is supposed to be covered in shadow darkness while he's traversing the rooftops during the scene, but in the PS3 version the shadow is completely missing. 2. During that exact same intro scene, the music is also severely bugged. The music is delayed and out of sync and only starts playing halfway through the scene, which completely ruins timing of the moment when Sly breaks the Chimney with his cane and jumps off and lands. However, this bug only occurs when you first boot up the game. If you start the game, then quit to main menu, this bug will not occur. 3. During the very first level after the intro scene I just mentioned, the music does not play at all. In the PS2 version, after you hold the O button to pass the water tower, the music is supposed to shift to a different song that plays for the rest of the level. This is the 1 soundtrack that is completely missing from the PS3 version and does not play at all. It only plays on the PS2 version. 4. Mz. Ruby's boss fight and rhythm game is completely ruined due to the music being totally out of sync. This is the most infamous bug that literally everybody knows about and it's very odd and strange that you don't mention it in this video. This information is VERY important and only a fool would leave this out of the conversation. 5. The music is generally bugged for most of the levels in the game, especially because the "sneaking" and "combat" versions of the themes often bug out and don't play correctly. Some of the voice acting is also effected by the desync. 6. The footsteps sound effect that is only supposed to play when you're behind and enemy always plays no matter where you are in the PS3 version. Just always. Never stopping. It's very annoying. 7. The character models in the game have a ton of clipping issues, there's a lot times where you'll see character's body parts clipping through other body parts, especially around the face and eyes and mouth. This does not happen nearly as much on the original PS2 version. 8. The lighting and color is significantly worse especially around light sources that change the colors around them. The yellow light from Flashlight Guards, Spotlights and Security Systems are also sometimes invisible, which is obviously a huge problem. 9. The game crashes occasionally on PS3, but never on PS2. 10. The Cooper Logo on the back doors of the Van is glitched on PS3. The texture is stretched vertically for some reason. On PS2 it looks normal. 11. The Developer Commentaries that are awarded when you complete all Master Thief Sprints were removed from the PS3 version, and so were most of the bonus videos from Sly 2 like the TV commercials. This one technically isn't a bug, but it IS another huge reason why the PS2 version is better than the PS3 version. The only positive thing I have to say about the PS3 Remaster is that they added the ability to invert the camera because that's the one huge flaw that the PS2 version was missing. Aside from that, there's nothing good to say about the PS3 version. Only a young naive fool with no life experience would be fooled by the slight increase in resolution. Just because it has a higher number of pixels does not automatically mean it's the better version. The difference in resolution is so small it's barely noticeable and is not worth all the bugs that come with it. Only someone who has no life experience would be tricked by that. We should all know and should've learned by now that the bugs and glitches are far more important than the graphics. Which is exactly why the PS2 version is superior in this case and you should be spreading that message, Cynical. You're failing really hard by leaving out this very important critical information.

I will add to this that with the PS5 of the PS2 emulator version of Sly1, you'll get not only everything about the game in its full glory but also avoid some frustrating issues the PS3 version had (the infamous Mz. Ruby boss battle), and may find the original music tracks to be better than their remastered versions.

1:22 Still hoping for the day Jared plays Dark Cloud as a series 🙏

It may not be a new game but I'm just glad that the Sly Cooper franchise still has a place in many hearts of people. So either way my prayers has been answered. :)

I love Sly Cooper, I hope they remastered Sly 2 and 3

Nahhh, i am so happy i dont have to deal with the Mz Ruby fight glitches from the ps3 version. As well as when you sneak on walls once, sly will sometimes continue making that sneak sound while walking normally

I'm surprised Sony hasn't ported the classic Ratchet and Clank games to ps4/5 yet

Honestly, I'll take it. Maybe it's just my personal experience, but I found the PS3 versions of Sly 1, 2, and 3 to not be very.........stable.

Damn, stumbling upon this in the PS Store was a shock but a welcome one

Well, at least Sony hasn't completely forgotten about Sly. This still doesn't make up for everything else though.

Man the Rpcs3 emulation looks gorgeous. It's a shame Sony hasn't put the effort into create a native PS5 emulator of the same quality. That said, a new and more challenging trophy list is very tempting. I'd love an excuse to Platinum Sly Cooper again 😅

Not only does RPCS3 work well, but it also supports the dual sense motion controller that the PS3 controllers and onward have. Sony's gotta step up their game.

I honestly don’t care about there being no improvements besides the typical emulator stuff. It’s basically giving the most authentic experience to the original besides the resolution.

ps3 emulation is one of the hardest systems to emulate it took over a decade before ps3 emulation was even created and its only even very recently that majority of games are in a completable state. Its not surprising hearing sony working on ps3 emulation it would open their doors way more for titles they would bring to the platform.

The new set of trophies is very much welcomed. It gives me a new way to play and think about the game that I haven’t done before. I 100% the first area and now onto Mugshot.

They changed the trophies for sly 1

I already played the first Sly game on my PS4 yesterday, and most of it appeared as it did on the PS2, but cut to A Deadly Dance, you'll notice the button pressing sequence is faster than usual, which makes it just as hard as it was on the PS3.

The trophies are much better than the boring ones in the collection

Great video showcasing the differences! Although, imo this is THE definitive way to play this game. It genuinely was better than I expected, you can switch between all region versions that the original games has been released by changing the console language if you wish to (making it more accessible than the PS3 version, which depending on your disc/region where you bought the game you’d be stuck with the default languages from that region), the trophy list is a big improvement compared to the PS3/Vita versions, you can rewind so you don’t have to redo missions that have been bothering you all over again, you can mess with the visual filters to your liking and, most importantly imo, you are playing the legitimate PS2 version, which means this port doesn’t have the weird changes PS3/Vita versions. The PS3/Vita versions are still awesome, but this new version is simply better imo, and so far I haven’t seen any issues like with the older PS2 games on PS4, so yeah, this port is a massive W in my book! 👌🏼

Widescreen hacks for PS2 games would probably have to work like they do on PCXS2, which is anamorphic which stretches out things like the HUD or 2D menus. Sure some pre-existing games can still use it but they could account for that during development and they can also be flawed in the case of the Jak games except X which has to vertically crop the image to make it widescreen so you get less viewing estate than you do in 4:3, for some reason even the PS3 remasters used this implementation. Also for things like not stretching FMVs. I'm biased though because I'm not a fan of the stretched HUD look, but I get it.

As long as the OST is in sync for the Mz Ruby bossfight, I'm happy!

NOW DO THE REST OF THE SERIES COWARDS

Community emulators doing it better yet again

I hope the Jak and Daxter Trilogy gets this treatment, I can't even consider going for the platinum trophies with the ps4 version

I'd rather have the full remake of the trilogy that it deserves. You can only "remaster" a game so many times to the point where there's hardly a difference. But at least it hasn't been lost to the ages like so many others.

How i play it: search for ISO file, burn into a dvd, play on My ps2 😂

If i have to be completely honest. I just bought it as a sign to show Sony. I want my damn raccoon back. Cause expecting quality wasn't really in the operation plan, and that sounds quite sad but reality. If I want high quality emulation community for sure, but not Sony

I actually just got Sly 1 and 2 on PS2 two days ago, I had 3, 4 and the remasters on PS3 already, and actually 1 and 2 on greatest hits in my sell/trade pile of things, but I'm a collector, and unless there were additional content or patches or whatnot to a greatest hits version, I go for black label 1st release copies for the collection, I'm pretty sure Sly 1 and 2 greatest hits don't have anything like that going on. Anywho, I have a saved game of Sly 1 going on PS3, haven't touched it in a few months, but I technically am in the middle of Sly 1 :)

bro they should make sly cooper remake. if that happens im locking myself in my room for a week.

Do a comparison with all consoles PS2 vs PS3 vs PSVita vs PS5

I feel like the Tango games team could make a really good Sly Cooper trilogy remake ngl. The art style they did for Hi-fi Rush in a 3D setting is exactly what could spice up Sly Cooper. Personally, I would be open to Sly1 being heavily redone/rewritten. Murray could be given back his original arc of learning to be himself instead of Sly.

I’m honestly really glad that it’s internally rendered at 480p. I feel whenever you emulate a PS2 era game at 720p or higher, the hud does not hold up well at all and ends up looking very blurry. Unless I’m playing a remaster that updates the hud like the Kingdom Hearts collections, I’d rather play internally at native resolution.

The uprendering doesn't seem to be working in these games. Scratch that. In Clone Wars it works. It looks 1440p. Looks good.

20 seconds ago is bananas

U can remap right stick controls. Turning them modern. That alone makes PS5 version the best period. I HATE the reverse camera controls from PS1 and early PS2

So, Sony is asking for us to pay for a PS2 Emulator with limited accessibility to modifying the performance or graphics. Looks like sticking to PCSX2 is way better and its free too.

Sly and Kingdom Hearts are my favorite series ever! To see Sly on this channel makes me so happy😁

The ps2 version is the definitive version. The Sanzaru ps3 version was a poorly done port so Im glad they scrapped it. Sanzaru remixed the music in the first game, ruining the Mz. Ruby boss fight and making it so the music doesn't play properly in some areas. They also cut the developer commentary that gets unlocked after master theif sprints. And the widescreen on the ps3 version makes it so you can see models that were not meant to be seen and the cutscene bars dont reach across the full screen in the 2nd and 3rd games.

Now I'll have to wait for both Band of Thieves and Honor Among Thieves to come to the PS5.

Literally immediately bought it once I heard you don’t need PS Plus to purchase

My question of this version is, how it compares to the Classics Catalog version of The Sly Cooper Collection version.

You should of compared the Vita version too

The best way to emulate a ps3 is to buy a ps3 and jailbreak it

I love this series and miss it so bad

Would this new emulator help with getting Ape Escape 2 running like it's supposed to on PS5. That version of the game is absolutely DIRE for no reason

I hope we get Hot Shots Golf 3 released on PlayStation Plus soon.

I just bought the first game on Ps5 and I love it already. I hope sony ports the other 2 games!

How tf did Sony make the PS3?😂 swear they made that system with alien technology since since it’s so difficult for anything

Saw Sly Cooper and clicked so fast

Dunno, I prefer the new emulated version. It nails the lighting, the music is in sync, no bugs or visual discrepancies. I get to have the game instead of streaming it. And the trophy list is excellent.

Honestly, I’m just happy that you don’t have to use cloud streaming in order to play sly Cooper on your PS4 or 5. stop complaining about nitpicks. it means those of us who aren’t interested in investing in third-party streaming equipment and software or Kent Ford to do that now have a means of streaming our gameplay to RU-vid or twitch, since we can now use the PS fives built-in native streaming software to do so. more people being able to stream. It means we can potentially bring in more support for the franchise and potentially show Sony that it might be worth their money time and effort, revitalizing the franchise with another sequel and the final payoff to whatever that movie did eventually became TV show before it was cancelled trailer was supposed to end up being. Plus if enough people show that they enjoy franchises like this coming back and especially with games like this where the last in the series is still only on PS3. We may also accomplish a secondary goal of convincing Sony that it’s worthwhile investing in having an emulator developed even though it’s a lot more difficult in there for a lot more expensive for PS3 to be able to get more downloadable games.

I'd happily leave behind the PS4 if it means the emulator can be further refined to incude higher resolutions, fps and widescreen hacks. That 4k60 part of the video really made the game pop and shows there's a long way to go before we see more feature pairity to those enjoying the games sailing the high seas. I know my rig can't handle rpcs3 but perhaps pcsx2 & a retexture pack similar to the one that's being worked on with Gran Turismo 4 and its modding community may really modernize the games

I honestly don’t mind that there’s no widescreen or anything since I’ve never really cared for stuff like that what I am glad that is there are the filters and rewind

I hope to get a better, non PAL version of Ape Escape 2.

0:40 That "Rewind fearure" is also introduced in Jak and Daxter Lost Frontier (and Medievil PS1 and Resurrection Remake) 🌀🍃

I would argue due to the new bugs introduced with the sanzaru ports and the issues they did not fix when implementing widescreen make them worse to play for these games. There is some very bad audio related bugs involving mz Ruby having her boss music off-sync which for a rhythm game is just horrible and the fight against mugshot in sly 3 as Carmelita having no music at all even though a unique track is supposed to play for that encounter. They did not bother extending the binocucom or letterboxing in sly 2 and sly 3 either which leaves ugly spaces at the edge of the screen and also sometimes gives you a glimpse of characters models off-screen stuck in poses which ruins the immersion of the titles. This is on top of them shrinking the black outlines that defined angles on the characters to closer match the comic book aesthetic and the removal of developer commentary from sucker punch for completing the master thief sprints is in my eyes cut content, that and theres issues with freezing on ps3 as well as a rare save bug in sly 3 that can corrupt data. I 100% believe if you want to play these games, original hardware in 4:3 or on an emulator are your best bet. These games deserve to be played as intended. There's so many other small bugs in the sanzaru ports like v-sync not working in mission select, environment projected shadows being missing in some areas, issues with murrays ball form in sly 3 due to the increased framerate and all sorts of other small annoyances that really don't drag it down on their own but all together really make the ps3 ports the worse versions of these games.

I have been spreading the word to my friends to buy the game, I am so happy this is happening because there is hope for us sly fans to finally eventually get a real ps5 trilogy we can have, AND with hope🙏🏽 we could even get a potential remaster, god a man can hope😩

I am curious, how do the load times stack up between the PS2 version running on an old PS3, and running this PS5 version?

One thing that really bugs me. Aspect ratios are _ratios,_ not multiples, so 4 *to* 3 and 16 *to* 9

I love sly cooper and would happily buy the trilogy again, but, no way am i buying a worse version as compared to the ps3 version. this is why i have a ps3 sly collection, this is why i bought it, and this is why i can't get rid of my ps3 because the new systems just don't have the sly collection or the ratchet and clank collection either... or resistance and many many other games.

The Jak and Daxter games do not play at a true 16:9 aspect ratio, the 16:9 in those games is just a cropped 4:3 aspect ratio Whenever I play those games on my PS5 I switch them from 16:9 to 4:3 to, ironically, give me more screen space

I’m a bit torn on the quality of this emulation experience of Sly. Tomb Raider Legend is an absolute shit show.

Their PS2 emulator still has issues and it is such a shame that old games arentbeing updated. Had my fair share of visual bugs when going through the game including the van and most enemies just completely losing textures and becominf black voids during the final section

Playing old games on os 5 is a joke every pc emulator can do it better. Even the xbox can do it better and you dont need to pay for the games again.

Sony: give us money for this minimal effort rerelease. Us: Why? We can get a better version for free.

its quite surprising to me that just like the Jak games they choose to bring over emulated PS2 versions instead of porting the already existing HD remasters made on the PS3. Cant wait for the inevitable PS2 Ratchet games that will also be stuck in 4:3 cause they refuse to just bring over the HD versions

Yea I will be picking it up in order to get more PS2 classics to show we want more classics or remakes on the Playstation consoles

I missed out on this when I was a kid. It's not happening again.

While I do love that Sony is bringing this series back, I get the same HD Result with my PS2 Emulator on PC, PCSX2. Also sad fact: The Collection on PS3 had a 1 frame delay, so the rhythm mini game for one of the bosses is almost impossible to beat.

Back when I got the Sly Collection on PS3 one of the levels in the Chinese area had monkeys inside a dojo that screamed like a laggy smoke alarm. I actually played through the og ps2 version recently and noticed that the screaming monkey audio was way less grating on the ears. I guess Sanzoru games pulled a Sonic Adventure 2 Battle and messed up the sound mixing too.

I really hope that Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters, Secret Agent Clank and Daxter going to come to PS4/5 aswell. Would be so nice than every J&D and R&C are somewhat on the current gen consoles. ❤

my boY Jared out here serving, keep it up you're doing great my dude

The ps3 version messed up attack frames and sped up specific maneuvers that are annoying for casual gamers

I've got the trilogy on the ps vita ❤

If you pause the video during any movement of Sly, on the PS5 version, there's motion blur. The lines are also jagged on the PS5, whereas on the PS3 version, they're much smoother and the textures are crisper. Is this due to the PS5 version running in 480p and being upscaled to 1080i?

I personally don't own a PS5 or the PS premium sub but I'm really glad their actually srtarting to drop Playstation 2 games now. I really hope they bring Ratchet and clank 1 to Deadlocked/Gladiator to the the service, Wondering wether they keep the Online mutiplayer selection in it too.

Bro actually said the definitive way to play this game is on the crappy PS3 remastered port with the messed up rhythm game section music that literally defeats the point of a rhythm game. don’t get me wrong. I appreciate the HD collection for what it’s worth. I am thankful that it paved the way for a Thieves in Time which, despite the heat that that game gets I think was an all right slide game maybe not the best but not the worst as a lot of people seem to think it is. to be honest, though I only bought the HD collection to show my support for the series and because I expected it would be handled better than it was. Also, so I could get the games on my PlayStation vita. which I still play on there because it’s the only way to play it on the go, but let’s not kid ourselves. You’re actually capping if you believe that the definitive way to play the game is anything other than the PS2 version. Widescreen is not worth crying over. and the emulator does a more than good enough job upscaling with graphic and frame rate boosting for a game is old is this that is single player. Anyone who cares more about frame rate and graphics for a single player game that isn’t maybe a Seoul’s like over just the excitement of what positivity and good ratings towards this could mean needs to book a doctors appointment to go have their head examined, because I think they fell down a flight of stairs and may have forgotten about it due to their injuries. dude has a temper tantrum if he loses frames or sees one thing that isn’t up to his graphic standards while playing a Sly Cooper and the Gang in:, this is this many years old, and then says yeah but I like looking at the MS paint, looking white screen on the cloud streaming version.

I just want tri-ace to fix the random crashes in star ocean till the end of time.

First one here!!! Sly Cooper is my childhood soooo excited!!!

I find it disgusting they didnt remove the godawful motion blur and interlacing from this. There has been hacks to disable them for PS2 versions for years, why didnt they use them???

I want a new game. It's so sad what Sony did to their old franchises.

trust me the ps2 version is much better especially when you get to the swamp. the PS3 remaster version ruined a lot of the rythm based features and combat the original had. I am happy it's the original ps2 version. i hope the ps3 emulator is true though because I miss my DW6 and i want to play it without streaming lol

The new Ps4/ps5 version looks so much better and true to the original than the washed out colors of the ps3 version

It was cheaper for Sony to release a PS2 port rather than release the PS3 HD collection. Same with Tomb Raider.

I almost gave up on the idea of sly coming back hope they give use the other games to and ratchet and clank, better Jak collection, and infamous collection those why my favorite games on the old consoles

Now we need the other 2 games, god of war, ratchet and clank, the rest of the ps2 tomb raiders, silent hill ( at least 1, 2 ans 3) perhaps some other ps2 gems.

That's why i still have the PS3 HD remaster version till this day in perfect condition. PS Premium sucks BALLS