Small Airplanes Are About To Get A LOT Heavier

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MOSAIC is here and it may arrive sooner than we think. Under Mosaic, light sport aircraft go go a lot faster, up to 250 knots. They can also be as heavy as 3,000 lbs assuming a stall speed of 54 knots can be achieved.
As excited as the pilot community is for MOSAIC, some industry leaders will take a loss once MOSAIC is put in place.
Cessna & Piper - These are your old conventinal aircraft manufacturers. They will likely have a tougher time selling brand new airplanes when you now have new light manufacturers building more capable and faster airplanes
LSA manufacturers - Brands like flight design, sportcruiser and Evektor have done little to nothing to improve their aircraft offering over the years. These guys are bound to get hit with heavy competition.
Cirrus - Cirrus SR22 priced at over $1 million can become an issue once MOSAIC passes. When you have more affordable options for a fraction of the price, Cirrus is bound to take a loss from high competition.
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@marklindsey1995 2 месяца назад

Going from a million dollar airplane to a half million dollar airplane doesn't seem like a bargain when it is hard enough to put groceries on the table. Flying is a rich man's game.

@monkeybusinesspictures1971 Месяц назад

This is true but there’s lots of opportunities to make money in today’s world… literally infinite ways

@markbeicke378 2 месяца назад

I am excited to see what Sling does after MOSIAC passes

@FLY--wy2yi 2 месяца назад

That’s not accurate! Sport Pilots have no distance restrictions! You can also fly into D, C, and some B with an endorsement from a CFI. That said, with the new rules a Sport Pilot will be able to fly at night with a CFI endorsement. Some restrictions will apply.

@stephen5147 2 месяца назад

Light Sport Aircraft under MOSAIC have NO max weight limits. (you said 3000# max) Just a max stall speed limit.

@nothingtoseehere4026 2 месяца назад

Such great news. Quick correction for you. Recreational pilot is limited to distance. Sport is not. Also, sport can have airspace endorsements. Bravo, etc.

@Anonymous99997 2 месяца назад

One plane to keep our eyes on is the Jabiru J230. In Australia, that plane is the J430. It has four seats and is rated at a higher gross weight. Here in the US, they took out the back seats and labeled it at 1320 Gross to fit the Light Sport category. I would imagine that after MOSAIC, they will recertify the J230 to be able to run at closer to the designed Gross Weight and speed. Who knows. They may be able to sell you a backseat kit (turning it into a J430.)

@philipritson8821 Месяц назад

You've got to fly behind a Jabiru 3300 though!

@baronpilot2bb 2 месяца назад

I agree the Cirrus is overpriced. More like $1.4m for a gen 7. The problem is that nobody is building a RELIABLE 4 place with a proven parachute like cirrus has. The JMB VL3 is a neat little toy, but that is just what it is a toy. 2 adults are very snug in the plane and very little baggage room. No deice capability either. And, a new one is now $400k with insurance costs over $10k per year. For the same money you can have a decked out G2 Cirrus or decent G3 that will haul two people in comfort along with as much as you can throw in the cabin or 4 people with 3 hours range. Piper, Cessna, Beechcraft, and Mooney keep producing the same 50 year old designs and no parachute. Cirrus has proven that a modern design, available de-ice, and a parachute is what today’s buyer wants. They want to get out of their high end car and enter their high end looking plane. That is where cirrus wins. Diamond could do the same with the DA50, but only with a parachute; otherwise, Cirrus will continue to eat their lunch. If Cessna would have put a chute in the TTX it would have outsold Cirrus as it is a superior airplane in every performance facet except no chute.

@grandyhynes1636 2 месяца назад

Thanks for the info

@paulo7200 2 месяца назад

US Manufacturers (especially the ones owned by bloated military-industrial contractors like Textron) are never going to be able to compete against modern certified aircraft built in Eastern Europe. 500k for a new 1950's 172 airframe? We need competition in the marketplace and hopefully MOSAIC provides it. I am concerned that entrenched players like Textron will try to protect themselves by preventing this legislation.

@virginiafiume5751 2 месяца назад

Thank you Mike🛫

@raygodbout Месяц назад

Mike, thanks so much for all the information you offer! I'd like to get into light sport with the MOSIC rules. I used to own a Diamon DA 40 but had to let go due to the cost of the FAA medical because I had a heart valve replacement. I'm looking for a new fast-light sport plane, and your info is helping.

@DanFrederiksen 2 месяца назад

For Cirrus to lose market share there will need to be a comparable alternative. Gogetair G750 915 checks a good amount of boxes but they are slow to promote it and I'm not sure it's certified in USA yet. They should give you a deal on one, they don't seem to grasp the value of youtube promotion which is a shame when they have what could be a significant plane. 270k€ for a 915 that compares to a Cirrus SR22. You'll probably need a plane with some kind of deicing to really hurt Cirrus. It does have a ballistic chute which I think was Cirrus' singular key to success. Other than being a newish design. If Gogetair adds a simple deice option then we might see some sparks fly. And if someone made a good twin jet light 4 seater then Cirrus could be in real trouble. there needs to be a solid alternative to SR22 to reduce Cirrus sales because price hasn't been enough to stop them. Paying over a million dollars is bizarre yet they do in great numbers.

@2oqp577 2 месяца назад

Interesting analysis. Thx

@ryanweber2080 2 месяца назад

Hey Mike, will the Sling HW make it into the new MOSIAC?

@iesikhaty 2 месяца назад

Very informative and hopeful on the changes that Personal Aviators will see. Aviation always sees a storm every decade that shifts the balance - and hopefully this one will provide new aircraft options for us that are scrapping over carbureted tech lol. Love my 1960’s rentals, but sitting behind a G1000 panel and a FADEC engine affordably would be nice.

@notpoliticallycorrect 2 месяца назад

Excellent channel! We appreciate you! Thank you for all that you do! We love you!

@gviola1 2 месяца назад

The key to affordability for the average pilot is to be part of an airplane club. I've been in a Cherokee 235 club with 10 members (all good pilots and good people) since 2017 and it is the only way I could have ever afforded to fly that aircraft. However, I have reached a point where the medical issues have become a problem and the 235 stall speed is outside the Mosaic envelope. Plus, even with dual 275's and a GTN 650, its still a 56+ year old design burning 14gph with a somewhat cramped cabin. So, I plus one of my current partners, are seriously considering these new UberLSAs (my term for aircraft like the Sparker) as our next step. We will probably look to add three other pilots to get our acquisition and operating costs within reason at some point.

@MichaelCarterShow 2 месяца назад

Very nice. Enjoy your weekend. #salute my gud brotha!!!!!

@Kjp-hf7hp 2 месяца назад

When does this come out?

@davidrichards1302 2 месяца назад

My guess is the FAA implemented Mosaic to try to develop more interest in general aviation in the hope that more new commercial pilots might emerge to address the national pilot shortage, which is probably classified by the government as a threat to national security (i.e. economic security).

@DavidBennett-vn6pd Месяц назад

Hi Mike, have you reviewed the Go Get Air G750, please David

@rodneyskennedy3163 2 месяца назад

in the UK EU we have our SSEA which allows you to fly up to 2000kgs (4400lbs) and just use a self cert medical. This allows to fly Pioneer 300 / 400 and Bristells ETC.

@Skiridr22 2 месяца назад

How dose this impact insurance for those who fits in the new category and those that don’t

@stevep8363 Месяц назад

Great content thank you! ... also if you try an aperture that is not quite as wide you won't get as much bokeh and your whole face can be in focus if that is what was going on there.

@mrkc10 2 месяца назад

Thanks for the update Mike. Sounds like there’s big changes on the horizon.

@stevenwhitcomb9668 Месяц назад

Will repairs or modifications on Experimentals need to be made with certified parts when they become an LSA?

@GeneralSirDouglasMcA 2 месяца назад

I’d heard 54 kts was the stall speed. And I’m looking forward to aircraft like Bristell, JMB, and Risen to be manufactured in the U.S.

@onethousandtwonortheast8848 2 месяца назад

From your mouth, to God’s ears.

@ChavngRynsPvts 2 месяца назад

Don't think JMB is going to be building in the US anytime soon. They just built a brand new factory in the Czech Republic.

@KiwiandPixeltheParakeets Месяц назад

The stall speed is kind of insane. A Cherokee 140 qualifies by weight but not by stall speed... why not just remove the stall speed requirement entirely and go by gross weight?

@danieldrinkwalter2393 2 месяца назад

This is going to be helpful for quite a few of the kit manufacturers. The new rules will mean you can fly just about everything Vans RV sells right now with a Sport pilot license. Bearhawk Aircraft has 5 models - one of them is called the 'LSA' - but now you will be able to fly all of their aircraft with the Sport Pilot licenses. And so on...

@user-yq2co2vt8v Месяц назад

Do you think current lightsports, limited to 1320 lbs. gross weight, will see an increase in gross weight, as a result of mosaic?

@charlesoxley7242 2 месяца назад

Awesome news on MOSAIC, thank you for the update. Love the content, keep up the fantastic work! One question regarding MOSAIC and instructing; currently, if you want to instruct in a light sport aircraft (and only in an lsa), it's possible to get an LSA-CFI without first obtaining a commercial rating, and with only 150 flight hours of flight time. With MOSAIC increasing both the allowable weight as well as allowable speeds of an lsa, has there been any mention of increasing the requirements of instructing in an lsa (essentially making it the same as a commercial cfi)? Also, did I hear you just say the discovery flight is on the house? If so, the next time I'm in Winston-Salem, I will have to take you up on that.

@gsxr600rafii 2 месяца назад

Mike I did not see an option for sport pilot training at lookup flight School. Should I just call to ask about it?

@mojogrip 2 месяца назад

Yes. Or shoot me an email mike@lookupflightacademy.com

@nostradamus7648 Месяц назад

Stupid question. Can I shove a turbine into a Bristell or Sling High Wing under the new rules?

@geraldanderson4792 2 месяца назад

Thanks for the informative video. Good job

@brentprosser7293 2 месяца назад

I'm excited to see what companies like Texas Aircraft (with their new Stallion) and Montaer (with the new MC04) can do here. Also, would like to see Vashon throw its hat in the ring. MOSAIC will be hitting around the time I'm ready to buy my first plane.

@imbtmn9836 2 месяца назад

The pricing will be interesting too. The Colt is already $200k the stallion would be $300k is my guess.

@brentprosser7293 2 месяца назад

@@imbtmn9836 the Montaer and Vashon are extremely interesting (assuming Vashon tries to get into that).

@davidburton4582 2 месяца назад

How will MOSAIC affect the experimental helicopter category?

@jmizzonini 2 месяца назад

Well I certainly hope this brings down the cost of what used to be an 'entry level' certificated new/used airplane! We are well overdue for a correction

@sawdust466 2 месяца назад

No it won’t. It will make entry planes much more expensive because, just like the auto industry, they will build planes only the top 3 percent of income earners can really afford. I just quit flying because of regulation and cost.

@jamesharkness1058 2 месяца назад

Appreciate the update Mike!

@FamilyManMoving 2 месяца назад

Question: Will the FAA permit a Cessna 172 type-certified before MOSAIC to be considered an LSA under the new rules? My guess is no, because every plane changes the moment it takes its first flight. So if true, that means older planes will be limited to pilots with PPLs. I hope FAA develops a procedure to "certify" used aircraft under MOSAIC. LSA aircraft are going to get more expensive, and certificated planes maybe a little cheaper. The only way to get costs under control industry-wide is going to be more volume and better manufacturing technologies. Both will require a lot more pilots. MOSAIC is a good step in the right direction; I'm hoping future FAA modernization rules kick-start investments in new engine tech (moving away from gas would be nice), new manufacturing techniques, and new instrumentation/avionics. It's time for a resurgence in GA. I hope it happens.

@UncleKennysPlace 2 месяца назад

It's more likely that there will be a different class rather than LSA.

@FamilyManMoving 2 месяца назад

@@UncleKennysPlace That was the initial proposal from FAA and IIRC it was called "Light Personal Aircraft", but they abandoned it in favor of a single category with what looks like a few carve-outs. For instance, the simplified controls definition are obviously meant for future personal electric VTOLs that fly with controls like a drone does today, and I had expected they would be a category unto themselves ("Jetson Craft"**). The upside is the LPA specs are now embedded in MOSAIC as LSA, which was originally going to be less than LPA but more than current. I think they took the right approach, and hope they push the vs1 speed to 58kn like just about everyone says they should. ** edit: for those that don't get the old pop-culture reference, the US had a cartoon show back when I was a kid called "The Jetsons" and the family had a flying car.

@FamilyManMoving 2 месяца назад

To answer my own question, the FAA will be putting forward a process to move existing craft to LSA if owners wish to do it. This would open the door to LSA pilots buying a used Cessna, provided the plane is certfiicated LSA. The impact will be higher used plane prices, because more buyers but also because the price of a used 172 will need to include the costs to re-certificate by an industry that has yet to be made. But I'm sure lots of specialty firms will pop up to do just that.

@photo200 2 месяца назад

@@FamilyManMoving What would happen with new aircraft? For example, I don't if it does, but for sake of argument, let's say the DA40NG meets the new requirements for LSA, would a new purchase be able to be immediately considered as LSA. I'm new to this and don't have a license yet, but with these new rules I'm starting to get interested, so sorry if my question sounds naive.

@timcastens1150 2 месяца назад

Cessna's pipers Sirrus should in the end be more affordable because of these things you've mentioned, right, in time

@user-qd2ky3mg9o 2 месяца назад

The average person will still be unable to participate due to the extreme prices of any and all aircraft these days. A company that can produce a truly economical aircraft will win.

@markbernardo2320 2 месяца назад

Prices across the entire market will plummet if new capable planes now cost 200-400k. Used market prices will drop drastically

@excellenceinanimation960 2 месяца назад

I don't think cirris is going to loose out. The people who can afford the airplanes are not looking to build them so they will keep buying them. Just my thought.

@grandyhynes1636 2 месяца назад

Where will the Diamond 40 fall

@joeheitz1833 2 месяца назад

what is a "yaw dumper"

@bigdadee6 2 месяца назад

That's when you shit your pants in turbulence

@joeheitz1833 2 месяца назад

lol@@bigdadee6

@kprincell 2 месяца назад

Awesome video. Thanks for your thoughtful insight.

@michaele4552 2 месяца назад

I truly hope this ushers in a new era of innovation and progress in the GA offerings. I feel like it has the potential of a football team down by 6 points, 3rd down, one yard from the in zone. It’s looking good but the FAA or GA manufactures still have plenty of ways to screw it up.

@buckethead9861 2 месяца назад

I’m skeptical that large manufacturers will be outmaneuvered by small players. There will almost assuredly be exceptions to this, and perhaps the bigs will refocus on jets, but capital rules everything around me

@sacredsocrates9055 2 месяца назад

I'm so happy to see you on RU-vid since over 2 or few years back of deleting my Facebook account, just a few days ago I thought of you, and here you are. RU-vid algorithm worked it juju in a deja vu manner to your RU-vid channel. ❤

@Kjp-hf7hp 2 месяца назад

But I would also say the 172 and Cherokee's of the world will still probably be your best trainers because high performance and students shouldn't mix.

@onethousandtwonortheast8848 2 месяца назад

Cirrus already created a new plane that they’re not selling in the United States but they will because after the mosaic change. They are not stupid. A year ago they made the announcement and AV Web covered it. Everything else you said I agree with. Cirrus has some very nice toys that will lure the rich doctors but I’m sure Dynon will come out with the same type of toys for us regular folks. The real winners here are not the aircraft manufacturers, it’s the cockpit interior electronic manufacturers.

@JB_Hobbies 2 месяца назад

Until I see basic med pilots clamoring for this, I will remain skeptical about the effect this will have on pilot qualifications and the used market. I am not seeing how Mosaic offers more to pilots than what Basic Med already offers. However, I do agree that Mosaic will create more manufacturing opportunities for more capable airplanes at a lower price point new. But, if manufacturers aren’t basically ready to go right now, then they may miss out on sales once the pilot shortage is filled. At that point, flight schools will dump their fleets, and the market will be flooded with a bunch of cheap planes, which will make it hard to justify paying much more just for nicer features.

@livendive 2 месяца назад

BasicMed requires you to pass one flight medical before converting, and if you try and fail, the sport pilot path gets permanently cut off as well. So for retirees, or folks who have something in their past that could get them deferred/denied, staying in the sport pilot ranks is safer than risking failure of the class 3 they're required to pass before being BasicMed qualified.

@GonzoT38 2 месяца назад

@@livendive and your bet is that there are enough of these hypothetical cases to move the needle on the GA market. I bet there is not such a mass of people who can't pass a 3rd class outright who also have enough money to buy a piston airplane of any category. MOSAIC is a nothingburger. What this sector needs is more airplanes below 100K, period full stop. But nobody wants to talke about fight club around here, including this channel's author who I guarantee you paid a heck of a lot more for that Sling (unless he went part owner or whatever). Even the european players entering under a "relaxed" US LSA category aren't going to be able to make new offerings at the prices that are needed. The notion that you can get a zippier 2-seater for the price of a new 172 (which is to say, old technology and performance) is moot anyways, because nobody who currently flies old airplanes under 100K (all renters by definition since presumably they can't afford what they want, and the majority of piston owners) has $400K for an airplane in the first place. the original pitch of LSA never materialized. The expansion of the performance envelope under that category still doesn't change the economic failure of LSA to bring cheap airplanes to the masses. They only goal-posted onto this "out main goal was always the can't keep a medical well to do....", AFTER it became clear working age people didn't have the money to buy 300K kites.

@reed785M 2 месяца назад

Great video!

@Captndarty 2 месяца назад

Heavier is good. No one ever complained about how a bonanza handles….

@FLYINGCOWBOY 2 месяца назад

I like the DA50. It's a capable plane but low on luggage capacity. This could have been avoided with a longer wing. 4 adults in the DA50 limit the size of the bag's and the weight. It has the power just not the capacity, this new ruling will see roomier cabin's with longer range planes. I love my Mooney and can't wait to see who builds the first air Cadillac with a big trunk.

@favbal2450 2 месяца назад

It will only increase the prices of used planes since there will be an influx of new buyers who can now fly planes that were previously restricted for them.

@cougarlove8542 2 месяца назад

Once robotics manufacturing takes over this industry, all new aircraft will become much cheaper. In a few years new engine technology (not these stupid electric planes like Archer) like hydrogen powered or others than no on this planet has thought about. As of now the JMB VL3 916IS would be my pick. Flew this a year ago and wow, it has everything a 2 seater could have. I know JMB is working on new products so I will wait.

@FernandoPerez-en8sc 2 месяца назад

What is the benefit if I can’t pass medical? Or let’s say that the medical was already denied by the FAA? With this said, they won’t allow you to have at least the sport plot. Right?

@Anonymous99997 2 месяца назад

Yes. That is true. FAA Regs say that if you know of a medical condition that would keep you from passing the Medical or if you have actually been denied a Medical, you are not qualified to get your SPC.

@MannySingh 2 месяца назад

very well said.

@guillaumeperron6240 2 месяца назад

The market for Evektor, FlightDesign, etc... was ultra-light market in Europe. LSA is not recognized in Europe as it could be in US : In France you have to stay certified, and current with PPL or LAPL which is a PPL limited for Europe, to pu it simply. The reason why those manufacturers don't make a revolution for LSA in US is probably because this rule change is limited to US, in Europe another evolution is going on, with ultralight being progressively, counrty by country, rised to reach the 550kg to 600kg max weight.

@idsawtooth 2 месяца назад

First off, great video, I like your enthusiasm! I agree, as written, MOSAIC is a big win. Keep in mind that it's still a NPRM and the final rules may change. Hopefully you provided comments on the NPRM and I encourage all pilots to to provide supportive comments as the FAA has extended the comment period twice. Also it appears the FAA is targeting April 2025 before the new rules are released, so it will be at least a year and maybe a little longer... I don't think the legacy aircraft manufacturers will necessarily lose with MOSAIC - They could take their designs and tweak them to meet ASTM standards and certify them as a LSA. Who knows, maybe we will even see an E-LSA C172 or C182? Blue Skies!

@philipritson8821 2 месяца назад

I always said 600 kilos (1320 pounds) was an arbitrary limit imposed for no sound reason. 600 kilos works in Europe. Load 2 pilots and an overnight bag into a LSA in Europe and you might have enough wiggle room to fly accross an international border for a weekend away. At the very worst, you might have to make one or two refuelling stops on the wau, but its "doable". Where does a 600 kilo limit get you in the United States? Oh and the other big loser will be Vans. Only the RV9 qualifies under MOSAIC.

@747driver3 2 месяца назад

MOSAIC cannot rewrite aerodynamics or economics. A 250 knot airplane that stalls at 54 knots will be quite a trick……and 115 HP will not get you there. If you have a certain airplane that weighs a certain amount and can carry a certain amount and achieve a certain speed, it’s going to cost a certain amount as well. Beechcraft, Cessna, Piper and Mooney learned this long ago. Every few years someone says they can build a better, faster, cheaper airplane with “new engine technology” and it just never happens. Why? The existing aircraft out there do a very nice job when you take a good look at them.

@MikeTroemel 2 месяца назад

Cirrus is likely making good profits and MOSAIC isn't a secret. Their $&D folks and product-planners have presumably been looking at many new product scenarios. In fact, they introduced a new plane last year - a three-seat, fixed-gear, Rota-powered trainer called the SR10. Supposedly only for the China training market but once MOSAIC passes, perhaps they bring it or a variant to other markets and slot it in below the SR2O.

@abel4776 2 месяца назад

Another non-fadec, non-carbon fiber, non-experimental FAA dinosaur?

@Blxz 2 месяца назад

Cirrus is fine. They are the apple of the plane world. Their xustomer base are happy to overspend for the product for an 'it just works' mentality which cirrus has put strong branding effort into. None of those pesky choices other than what colour your double stitched seats are going to be. For someone with a million to burn they are the go to. And given how few planes they make per year they only need a small market to sustain the company.

@RealRickCox 2 месяца назад

Solid analysis. I think you're spot on. Seems like there will be a ton of players like Dark Aero that will benefit from the new rules.

@timduncan8450 2 месяца назад

They will have to get in the air first. I love all the detail work they are doing but the landing gear cannot take two+ years and be fully one off. I wish them the best but it doesn’t look simple, cheap, durable and it certainly has not been developed efficiently as it seems to be holding the entire project. I actually love it these guys and the proper engineering work they are doing. 5yrs in, 2 of them on landing gear, just making me impatient. I favor the cost, insurance and maintenance advantages of a slick fixed from the beginning. I just don’t get them on this. Just get more hp, maybe a turbo engine and fly higher so no significant fuel economy penalties and better takeoff performance.

@RealRickCox 2 месяца назад

@@timduncan8450 I'm not sure what their timeline has been - I only started following that in the last year or so. But it looks like they're VERY close to being in the air. Hope they can get a product to market in the near future.

@leecoleman822 2 месяца назад

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@jamesgalbraith1742 2 месяца назад

Average people can’t afford any of the aircraft 😂

@kugdi 2 месяца назад

I think some of your "losers" may be prime for investment, as they already have experience in manufacturing and capacity for retooling. I don't see any of them just throwing in the towel, other than maybe a few who are owned by PE and will look to sell off for shareholders rather than take on any risk. Great video, Mike.

@Lee-qp6gf 2 месяца назад

If this comes to pass the existing light sport manufactures may have to put out new engine kits, maybe with new cowlings, to "plug and play" in their existing models to stay relevant. Otherwise, they will definitely fall off the cliff. The used plane market will go up like crazy offering good investment opportunities beforehand. Good vid, Cheers

@N1WP 2 месяца назад

Competition is good for the Pilot community. Cirrhosis 😂😂😂 is way over priced. And where do you get 35000.00 for a Air Conditioner for a Cessna. I know that the FAA has to certify the stuff. But that's grossly ridiculous. So competition will be healthy and wake the airplane manufacturers up.

@abel4776 2 месяца назад

The bloated certification process which, in all honestly, does not add that much safety, is the problem. Experimental is the WAY TO GO.

@turninmonyin2noise978 2 месяца назад

Very interesting and informative. How ever it sounds like you are not considering young new and future pilots as well as older pilot. The over all long term economics the Washington power brokers, that are in bed with Clouse Schwab and the WEF. Who have a plan for a one world government and have stated “you will own nothing and YOU WILL BE HAPPY,”. Consider that most home sales are now being done and the homes in America being bought by Investment companies then renting to people that can no longer afford them because( and check it out) the middle class is greatly reduced and is disappearing in America. People that can’t buy a home are not going to afford a half a million dollar aircraft. General Aviation has been in decline since the early Seventies due to cost and overbearing regulations. So the smaller older aircraft will be of great value for those poor folk that just want to enjoy flying for an hour + - just to enjoy flight and forget their troubles. That’s why there are still lots of Cubs , Taylor Craft and Aeroncas still flying. “Cheap” aviation.

@abel4776 2 месяца назад

Buy gold, silver, crypto and stay on track with Jesus, globalists can't touch you.

@JabariHunt 2 месяца назад

Innovate or die! That is FINALLY beginning to catch up with the US general aviation community. Textron and others failed the GA community for decades by charging more and more for incremental updates to the same planes. Cirrus sells an experience (ie. status) more so than a plane. That will likely keep them going long enough to develop a new model to comtinue competing.

@IO-zz2xy 2 месяца назад

Cirrus will have to cut the prices of their OVERPRICED planes. I predict they will miraculously be able to drastically drop their prices. LOLS Regards from South Africa

@cessna177flyer3 2 месяца назад

Despite the “high” price, they out-sell every other certified GA single in the U.S. by a wide margin.

@EJWash57 2 месяца назад

"I don't know." And THAT is the gist of this presentation.

@XX-166 2 месяца назад

Where’s your aviation channel

@countrycorner9337 2 месяца назад

cool bro

@redcauthen771 2 месяца назад

Give me one with 40 gls fuel, and 600 # pilot and passenger, and 700 mile range. 😊

@EJWash57 2 месяца назад

@@redcauthen771 Looks like that'll be something in the Experimental certification. Or if you can find a Swift or Marchetti (piston).

@redcauthen771 2 месяца назад

@@EJWash57 just seems to me they Cert these AC for slim & trim FAA inspectors, and screw us Big Boys. When I was a Plane Captain on F-4’s in Navy riding brakes during AC moves @ 190# it was a tight squeeze. 🥴🥴🤣

@sacredsocrates9055 2 месяца назад

Hello bro, good to see you. please, i need to contact you if possible.