Exactly. It’s all about lightweight and how it feels. Both tools get the job done yet one might be not as powerful yet it will get the job done. Dewalt feels good in my hand and it’s light.
Couldn’t agree more. I have almost as many impacts wrenches as you, and the two I reach for the most are my DeWalt 12V 3/8” and M12 1/2” stubby. The DeWalt is my first reach for 75% of work - when I need the extra grunt for wheels, brakes, suspension, etc, that’s when the Milwaukee stubby comes out. The DeWalt 12V Xtreme screwdriver is the best electric screwdriver I’ve ever used, that’s what got me to start buying the new DeWalt 12V stuff. I’ve been very happy with the new DeWalt 12V Xtreme tools, and that’s coming from someone who has more M12 tools than I can remember.
They have a new dewalt 3/8 made for mechanics. More power than a stubby, oil resistant molding on tool and batteries. Got held up due to covid and shit
I own 3 different 3/8 impact wrenches. The 12v Xtreme being one of them. I’m literally in the same boat. I grab it for anything below 75, if it’s above I grab the Milwaukee stubby. 90% percent of the time I’m picking up the little Dewalt. I really dig it, fantastic ergonomics! Great show as always ☕️ cheers !
I have all of the Milwaukee drills, drivers and impacts. I bought the Xtreme screwdriver from Dewalt and im in love with it. I actually bought another one. The ergonomics on the Dewalt is infinitely better than Milwaukee. I didnt know how much that mattered until I used the Dewalt a lot. The milwaukee just feels like a banana now. I kinda want to get rid of some of my Milwaukee stuff and get a couple more Dewalt tools.
A couple months ago I was in Home Depot looking to replace my Porter Cable drill and impact. Out of all the 12v and 18v, Makita and Dewalt are the only ones that felt better in my hands.
Not a mechanic, but I replaced my sedan's rack and pinion with that dewalt 12v 3/8 and it was a joy to use. Only ran into a few bolts it couldn't break... A seized up endlink and some of the bolts holding the subframe in... had to drop the subframe out completely for the job. It is a very comfortable tool to use for many hours. I just got a 1/2in Stubby a couple of days ago and cannot wait to use it.
I absolutely agree. I have the Milwaukee stubbys and every new Dewalt 12 volt as well. I love them all! Thats what happens when you love tools that much I guess!
Fully agree with everything you’re saying. 3 years under my belt now working with the DeWalt 12V tools all day, 5 days a week. Haven’t upgraded to the brushless versions yet, but this wrench is in the mail since a few days ago. The screwdriver is another one to look at. Really reliable torque settings, with a fine level of adjustment. Perfect for working on plastic skinned appliances (like Powertools).
I bought the screwdriver and used it for a while. I didnt want another battery to have to charge so I returned it. About 3 months later I said screw it and bought it again. I love that thing for SO many tasks its crazy. In fact they are on sale at Lowes for $60 bare tool and I bought a second one. let me tell you how light the clutch is...So I have to change the batteries on a lot of toys around the house. If you have kids you know how tiny those screws are. If you put the screw driver clutch on 1, it will not strip that screw. Its amazing. AND unlike a impact driver, you can turn the whole tool to hand tighten the screw if you want, or break it loose the same way. I have all the milwaukees but those 12v xtremes are great. Now if they only had a deeper tool line...
I was waiting for months and bought that as soon as it came out. It is wonderful. I changed a cam in a 25 year old truck and there was only one intake bolt I had to use my midrange for. I use the 3ah battery and I can get 100ft/lb out of it. Like you said though, wrong tool for 100 ft/lb.
Just bought one of these (well, I made my boss buy me one) with the hammer drill solely because it'll stand up which my current 12v impact won't. You're right, 90% of the time they're on they're side, but when I want it to stand up, it's not just for the fun of it, it's usually because I have a narrow or dirty area I need to set it, so it's one of those things that even if it's only 10% of the time, when you need it, you need it. Looking forward to giving it a good go tomorrow but first impressions are good.
Dewalt is a perfect tool for that in between work and it gets a load of things done , not too much power , not too heavy and no so little power that it sucks
Everyone does not do the same trade or jobs, projects Property Maintenance, DIY or hobbies. To each it’s what what works for them and gets the job done. Thx for the vid
It’s my most used tool for removing stuff, as well. And for installing some stuff. The hog anvil gets a little better with Usage, and the problem mitigates if you use impact sockets. Also with the Titan square to 1/4 adapter I can convert it into an impact driver, with less penalty space wise than converting an impact driver into a wrench.
Not being able to set the tool upright is a huge deal. A deal killer, in fact, for some guys. I had the M12 a few years back, what really irked me about it was how hard it was to remove the battery. You had to squeeze just right on both sides to get it out vs. a slide out battery with a button on the front.
Enjoyed your take. I've switch more to my Milwaukee 1/2 in drive stubby rather than my 18v impact. It has the torque and lighter for most jobs. I'll use 18 volt when I need 1000 plus torque. I believe the stubby is in the 450-500 range.
Got the impact driver, works great and they put a lot of thought into how the tool feels in your hand. The balance and feel does it for me it’s well built.
Rightly said used Milwaukee stub alot. Just bought the dewalt ( it was all the store had and needed it that day) really comfy in the hand worked spot on for what I wanted.
I'd have to agree 100%. I have about every milwaukee and Dewalt cordless impact wrench made and the 3/8" extreme is a pretty sweet set up. Its compact, light, fits well in the hand, and at $99 for the kit its priced right. For me the m12 stubby is too wide for a lot of applications so I really only use it for specific situations. The one I can't wait for is the new m12 right angle impact wrench. I have the m18 but it only has 60ft/lbs of torque and the new m12 is supposed to have 220ft/lbs, which will almost make my stubby obsolete.
Men love your videos. In my country is imposible to buy ONE of this tools the milwaukee is value 1500 dólar so... I continue watch the videos and dream about it!
Picked this up thinking it’d be nice for tight repairs on the truck and small engine repairs. The size and weight of this thing is great, so far so good! You’re definitely right about the specs, would like to see exactly how they’re getting the numbers.
Great Video I have been going back and forth on what compact drill to get and I already have Dewalt tools this one seems to be the one that will work for what I am looking for in the size
Hi im an automotive technician / mechanic, and I used to love dewalt until i had about 70% of all the tools i use fail on me. And not because of abuse of the tool. Im pro installer and u can see why you like that dewalt.i have to say i love the light on the front. I wish Milwaukee would do something better, but i just solved 90 percent of All my lighting issues with the snap on neck light! Im sure you guys would all love in your shop as much as we do. However my go to Milwaukee for small anything jobs, is the Milwaukee 2553-20. That little thing really impressed the hell outta of me... " not exactly what she always says " ( sorry had shoot that joke in there) i encourage you to try it. And throw anything at. It still is after a year and a bit, is my go to for all small and sometimes medium work. Its very easy to incorporate it into your work life.
I have that impact driver and it is not as co.fortable as the DeWalt. The handle is fat due to the battery and it feels long. I know what you mean about quality as there seemed to be a time when DeWalt dropped the ball and Milwaukee picked it up.
@@WorkshopAddict ya the ergonomics really does depend on the user. As much as i appreciate all tool makers company. As for me the Makita grips always fit my hand the best, then Milwaukee then dewalt. And there is one thing that actually matters when doing alot of small work, is the fit into your hand and to me it is 50% of the enjoyment. Great review, if i get a chance i will try out the feel of that dewalt when i see it on demo. And yeah id have to say about 4 to 3 years ago dewalt lost, all my confidence in there tools. I still have some as backups but i do not use them at all anymore. They, in my opinion, screwed everyone with that kind of shotty build quality and cheap components. I wont be going back, but will appreciate their new stuff. I can admit they are finally reawakening up as competitor. But they will need proof and time, to reclaim their place at the top for me. My corded compound mitre saw is a Dewalt, love that thing! But i will give the Milwaukee cordless a shot strictly for mobility reasons.
This comes down your use & budget. I used be a 12v Dewalt guy. I was fully invested in their line back in 2012. They broke & battery cases cracked. I moved to Milwaukee m12 line due to their ratchet & never looked back cause Dewalt 12v MAX was limited & still is. Milwaukee has over 100 plus tools & I'm still using batteries from 2012 & NONE have failed. I am truly impressed. I do still own my Dewalt 12vMax temp gun & 1 battery & charger. It works but is the last of a dying breed. I didn't invest in IR line because of the same reason I left Dewalt.....options! I just love the bare tool option with an expansive line Milwaukee m12 offers.
Awesome new generation of DeWalt 12V Impact tools!! These and the ocilating or i call,,the buzz buzz tool are more helpfull if your a Mans Man then i ever though possible!! Rock on🤙
Sometimes less is more....I do like my stubby impact driver for larger tapcons and setting concrete anchors...using the right tool for the job makes the job go much smoother which lowers frustration which in turn ultimately ends up with a job well done...and done a whole faster. Now only if I could listen to my own advice. Great video brother....stay safe.
You like what u like man!...if u liked a harbor freight brand then so be it. I've gotten to use the DeWalt 12volt 3/8" once, it was good! Not good enough to jump into another platform since I have everything Milwaukee 12volt. But it works. Thanks for the videos brother! 🇺🇸🦅
I love your videos, no bs and right to the point, I want a 12 xtreme drill/driver and impact driver, they look so good. I know not the most powerful tool but still great for lighter duty use, I have my DeWalt 20v and flexvolt stuff for when I need more power. This seem nicer than the atomic line of tools. (Not at all hating on the atomic line).
I heard the dewalt 12V 3/8 were good for small bolts like as a contractor job etc. If you were on the route to wanting more power just to take off stubborn bolts in a automotive job, the 20v 3/8 dewalt gives you a bit more power and is compact as well so you can get into tight areas.
I picked up the M12 non-fuel screwdriver for this type of work, where an impact driver is to much. Sometimes less power means more control. (it is a lot quieter too). I also like that it has a clutch.
Best feature the DeWalt 12v has over the milwaukee 12v is the slider style battery. This enables the tool to stand upright as you mentioned. But more importantly, where the M12 battery fits inside the handle requiring a thicker handle the DeWalt's slide battery allows the tool's handle be much slimmer making it a more comfortable, better balanced tool to hold. Milwaukee has tried to fix this by releasing a high amp hour battery that enables the tool to stand upright but there is still that thick handle on the tool.
Solid point but because 3 of the cells in a higher amp hour battery are INSIDE the grip you can have a 6AH battery that’s an inch thick, rather than a brick on the bottom of your tool like every other brand including M18. I see this as a huge advantage.
@@clone1137 I'm with you on the "brick", but even with a thinner bottom portion those higher AH batteries are heavy. And the grip is still too fat. Even on my M18 tools I tend to gravitate toward the lighter, low AH, batteries unless I really need the extra power. I'm fortunate, though, in that I usually don't venture far from the shop so I always have a good supply of freshly charged batteries.
@@tagsmyser4299 I heard that. I have medium sized hands but I love the fat grips of the m12 stuff. Shape and size of m12 feels a lot like my mid size glock and I love the way that feels in my hand. I can definitely see why people like those slider style batteries though
Nah man. I agree with you. I've never used the Milwaukee stubby, but it seems like a bad ass tool. But for me, light, compact and comfortable is paramount. I realize that is a luxery that some trades can't afford, but in the 15 years that I've run tools for a living, this is where I've ended up. Plus, anyone who's ever had to clip and impact or drill to their belt before climbing a ladder knows what they're missing when they lug big ass tools up onto a roof or in a tree.
The problem with the stubby is that the girth is too wide and the tool is too top heavy. For example With the Xtreme you can push the wiring or hoses aside and get the body through. Not so much with the stubby with such a wide girth. The Xtreme is so well balanced that you can use it sideways or upside down. Very helpful in situations where you cannot see the nut or bolt. For the HOG RING situation this is what I did. Gently squeeze the hog ring with my needle nose pliers little by little, until I get the desire tension. If I go too far I just use 2 picks to expand it again. I did this with BOTH of my Xtreme impact wrench because they both have this problem since new.
Bought the Dewalt 12v when it came out, then they stopped making 12v tools..went to IR, Bosch and then Milwaukee, M12 is great for most small jobs( not framing) I have all the m12 tools, still don’t like the grip. The extreme Dewalt 12v line is awesome ( the circ saw sucks) and 12v has its place. Nothing beats the comfortable grip and size. I hope Dewalt makes some larger ah 12v batteries, I use the 3ah, but more ah would be good. And I hope they expand the12v line this time. Solid review as always,great channel , tell it like it is. 👍🇺🇸
I find that the 2 and 3 Ah batteries do fine. I do not use these tools hard though. Like you, I have a lot of tools and seem to pick a larger tool out when needed. My 12-volt extreme drill does a lot of plastic drilling and has not seen much else.
I have both the Milwaukee 12v and the Dewalt12v like the 12v Dewalt for two reasons. The Dewalt's complete overall balance is much better than that of the Milwaukee 12v. Also the grip. It just feels contoured to my hand. Just like the way a hickory handle of a long shovel feels better than a fiberglass handle. The way certain pistols feel with different grips [standard and custom], the Dewalt feels like it has a custom grip.
Thanks for your vids...I enjoy them quite a bit I actually bought the Milwaukee M12 drill driver kit but took them back once I got a hold of the DeWalt 12 volt extreme line the power is minimal in between the two but the ergonomics is way beyond anything I was expecting and they come at a way better price you pay $269 for the Milwaukee setup you pay $100 for the DeWalt drill driver with a bag two batteries at Lowe's
If you are with Dewalt. Buy a 887 or 888 as your main/hard use. Buy the 12v brushless Impact for medium to light duty tasks. 12 and 20 use the same vattery charger thats A+++
Own mostly m12 fuel tools. Great tools but hate the grip. I'm a diyer so I don't use them day after day for hours, but if I did I'd probably switch. As a diyer comfort and lightweight are higher up on my list than power. Held those Dewalt 12v tools in Lowes, great combo of comfort and light weight. Makita subcompact all great combo of light weight and comfort.
Team Stubby here, but I can see that I using my 1/2in stubby in most applications is a overkill. Would be open to getting a smaller impact. Great video
Im in the same boat. I own the m12 stubby half inch. I drive lags into anchors daily. I find it heavy. Wonxering if the little 12v dewalt can step up to the task. 2 inch x 5/16 lags that is.
I got a hold of two of these dcb126 batts at the Moore Oklahoma Lowe's today buy purchasing a dcf902f2 3/8ths impact and a dcd701 drill! Go check your local lowes today!
Agree, I think you got the right tool for the right job but what will you be using 6 months from now ? We all have tool upgraditis, but as a regular "joe", I can only afford 1 or 2 impact wrenches. What would you recommend if i could only pick 1-2 impact wrenches from your experience?
That would depend on your uses. I normally recommend the Milwaukee Mid-Torque or Ridgid Octane to people for their first impact. From there, you either need a larger one or a smaller one. If you wanted really small and were only in the Milwaukee line, I would use Milwaukee's new impact Driver with an adapter because you could use it for other household items. If you needed to go up, you could go to Milwaukee's High Torque. That would keep the average Joe in one battery line. This tool is only $99 with two batteries and a charger, so you could buy 3 or more of these for one Milwaukee..
I'm just got the Milwaukee 2767-20 high impact wrench. I am slowly going over to milwaukee tools and like you said they rock. I also have some DeWalt tools also and I like them. So I will say I'm on the fence for both, I do like the grip on DeWalt. Milwaukee could do better lighting on there tools. I also got my wife into milwaukee M12 tools because they fit her hand and as she says she has her own tools.
Actually planning on getting one of these. Got a big impact dewault for heavy work. Need something light and it sounds like this is the tool. I have all dewault and thought about going to the Milwaukee. But why go with only a few new tools and batteries when what I have works great. Great review.
for me, whether to get into the 12V series depends on the brand, because I don't want to keep a 12V battery kit for one single tool. My mate's 12V Milwaukee hammer drill is amazing, makes life easy for any drilling under 8mm (which is 90% of our daily job), Dewalt simply doesn't have anything in par. otherwise I would go for a whole range of 12V tools, forego most of the 18V stuff and get Flexvolt range for heavier work
Don't beat yourself up. Think about this for a second. You can't choose or control what you like. Kinda like that girl that really wasn't that pretty, but when she smiled just right, or maybe it was just her eyes or voice. What ever it was, you were attracted to her. But there WAS a reason, whether you consciously knew it or not. And BTW, shame on you for not asking her to prom. It's the same with anything really, even tools. Power is neat and good to have, and as I've mentioned before, I bought a ton of M18 Fuel flagship drivers and impacts. But about 95% of the time, I reach for the M12 stuff first. They're smaller, lighter, fit my hands perfectly, and have all the power I usually need. I can fit more of them in a tool bag, the batteries are WAY smaller, so you can throw a few in the bag and work all day. The LEDs on the DeWalt are far superior to Milwaukee. I went with Milwaukee because they had a much larger selection of tools I needed in both M12 and M18. I truly believe that if you get a 12v impact from Makita, DeWalt, Bosch, or Milwaukee, you won't be disappointed and you'll find yourself using them for the vast majority of your work too. I also HIGHLY recommend the 12v screwdrivers from the same major makers. The control and feel you get is amazing. And they are QUIET! The utility of these little tools cannot be overstated. They are truly nothing short of amazing. Can you imagine going back in time 50 years and showing up for work with today's tools?
Agree with your assessment. I have the 1/2" stubby and It's my go-to tool for most jobs. I also got their gen2 12v driver and I'm often thinking, why don't they put a 3/8" anvil on this? Sometimes the stubby with the boot is just too wide for some situations. If I was a full time mechanic, I'd get the dewalt in a heartbeat. Love my m12 stuff but I like the dewalt ergonomics better.
I never put my drivers/impacts upright because i know i will always knock them over and damage tool or something im working on. I use m12 for all my automotive work. I leave them on high and use the trigger as variable. I never change settings. You can probably just use any impact drivers to do installations or even a drill if you dont care for power since they will be torqued down. I definitely wouldn't waste money on DeWalt 12v when they dont have many tools. If it was the other way around i would say the same thing about m12.
Then get the Ridgid Octane 1/2" impact wrench...620 ft/lb break away torque...4 modes for $179.... I haven't come across anything in an automotive setting it can't handle....🖖
@@miguelledezma1394 the 3/8" or 1/2"?.. the 3/8" is cheaper with 6 modes but less power.. with a battery and charger....$129....👍nice.. .I found the 1/2" Octane kit for $179....
It's a nice impact however I returned it twice luckily bought from HD where they have a very good return policy. The first one had a burning bearing/motor smell straight out of the box. The second time it disappointed me when I was unable to take off a Northeast U.S. axle nut on a Honda Odyssey. It's overall a good impact for brake work and tire rotations and more depending on where you live. But you may be better off with a Milwaukee High Torque and a Stubby to really have it covered. Also these electric impacts especially Milwaukee's don't like torque sticks, the Mid-Torque will make a strange clunking noise when using one and will not be too accurate.
The Stubby is great , but it's hard to beat the Dewalt when it's ONLY $99.00 for the kit with two 2ah batteries , charger , and bag . The Stubby is around $259.00, that's a BIG difference. ... Be Safe ...✌ 😷
I think the DeWalt is priced right. The stubby is expensive. I used the DeWalt yesterday to install a bagger on a zero turn and pushed it more than usual. With 3/8 and 5/16 bolts it did a hell of a job.
Recent Sub. Is this Dewalt still your favorite sub compact? I don't have anything other than mechanics hand tools and have been wanting to get into a battery powered tool for a couple of years. Milwaukee always seems to come up but the part about the socket retaining clip coming off and the driver collet having some issues retaining bits always makes me back away.
for ease of battery replacement and ergonomics dewalt beats m12 hands down, best buy I have made really and when your 20 ft on a ladder its indispensable
I just bought a DCF902.... Why? Price. It was $119 and the stubbies are close to $300, now. Havent put it through its paces, yet, but I like it so far. My first thought when I unpacked it was, “It’s so cute!” But, I like its size. I doubt it’ll do all that I would expect from a stubby, but... PRICE. Do I have any other 12V slide DeWalt batteries? No. But, price! It’s a step up from my M12 ratchet but way cheaper than the stubby I’d really rather have. Later, when money is more attainable (or gas goes back below $5/gal.), I’ll pick up a stubby in 1/2”. That will give me options depending on size, torque requirements of the job. I like options.
Would this be a good impact for general automotive use (brakes, suspension, engine work, etc) besides lug nuts and jobs that obviously require a 1/2 inch? I am torn between getting this and the XR 3/8 impact. The XR has slightly more power but it is also a larger tool.
what impact wrench do you recomend, i want to use it to rotate my tires and taking off big long bolts and just heavy duty stuff? thank you..im in Guadalajara MX.
@@WorkshopAddict nice, thank you sir, yeah im having someone ship some stuff out from the states, where can i find one at a decent price would you happen to know? thank you.
Alright what is the one I should own if I can only afford one...between makita, IR, dewalt, milwaukee etc. I have a NAPA ultra pro pneumatic 3/4" impact ( great for disc gangs and tractor lugs), an old early 2000's dewalt 1/2" corded impact from my Dad and a mastercraft ( canadian tire) 1/2" corded impact ( not as strong as the dewalt). I want something that I can use in the field and the shop for tight places. I farm and work on my trucks, tractor/ other equipment and a couple cars for friends and family so I would want something that helps me tear down some equipment in the field and use in my tiny garage when I don't want to fire up the compressor. I don't want a space constraint where I have to carry so many wobble bars and u joint adaptors to get at something. I've been doing it where I crack stuff with a ratchet and if I can get in there with all the adaptors I pull fasteners off with my makita cordless drill to speed it up. I only have cordless experience with makita so far. Is an m12 stubby 1/2" the answer or that rigid 18v? I wish they made an m18 stubby or makita would up their game making that subcompact have a smaller battery and the motor more coils or something to juice it, it sounds weak compared to the milwaukee. Hard to decide. I know Dewalt and Makita I have lots of their corded wood tools. Is Ryobi any good. hahha it's one if those cases of marketing overload and comparing reality to hype without actually wanting to spend too much money to experiment. Whichever I get would probably be used to lag bolting on structures around here or installing tin siding or roofing as well.
You are asking one tool to do the job of 2 or 3, IMHO. I would look at the new (not out yet) Milwaukee M18 Mid Torque. It is going to be small (er) but have power. No M12 Stubby!!!! It will not impress you on the farm.
I have the Milwaukee M12 line tools, but hate the handle grip size, and tool angle. I will not get any more. Probably go with new Dewalts, or skil 12 volts.
I think a good way to present reviews, or at least an angle is battery system. I think most are invested in a particular battery system(be it brand or voltage) at this point. Right or wrong doesn't really matter, people have what they have. Ultimately the "math" is: is this tool a worthy investment within that battery system, is this particular tool worth stepping out of your current battery system? Is it a good/useful tool at all? Right now I am debating the stubby Milwaukee 1/2 inch. I have on my truck an employer provided Hilti impact to with a torque setting module/data logger. I use it a fair amount but it's on the large side. Not as big as the Mid Torque Milwaukee but overall a little more cumbersome than I'd like. Great tool though, even at Hilti price.
Good perspective. I like to look at it as if it is the right tool for the job or not. Will I use this enough to justify the cost. This is a 99 dollar tool with 2 batteries and a charger. You do not have to be in the platform, IMHO. I hate to marry myself to one platform as no one company makes everything I like or need.
@@WorkshopAddict I was speaking more in the general sense of power tools. That's an attractive price point though, I would expect that bundle to be 150 ish. Foot in the door to the dewalt ecosystem. For me, I work in the field, often a good distance from the truck(wireless construction). On the roof of a building, a suite in a commercial plaza, that kind of thing. So, multiple battery ecosystems is less desirable. Just the addition of the Hilti Impact I use isn't ideal. That's where I am coming from.
im actually surprised you like the dewalt better since you're a big guy, I've tried the dewalt in the store and the grip is just too small. Felt like I was trying to hold on to a pencil with the web of my hand. I went M12 line specifically because I like the handle much better.
I agree. There is something with the ergonomics and size that draws me to the line. I own the screwdriver, impact, impact driver and drill. I have the Milwaukee screwdriver for comparison and always reach for the Dewalt tools first. Milwaukee ergo does not fit me like Dewalt. I do install and woodworking so these tools are the size and power I need.
Better? It is better at being comfortable and being used under 75 ft lbs, but the 20-volt is much heavier and much more powerful. Two different tools for two different jobs.
@@WorkshopAddict I look at it this way I can't tell you what the by I can suggest just like you it don't work for me and maybe work for you I like what you guys do people don't like it it's not my problem or yours😷🍻🍺
@@jps101574 I am not sure where you are going with this comment but I say in this video that I believe Milwaukee makes better impact tools, but nothing as balanced or the size of this tool.
