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Smash Bros Melee Is Changing 

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@MorphBall1
@MorphBall1 Год назад
The parasocial relationship era
@kestrelynn
@kestrelynn Год назад
I could really see Jmook being like armada in terms of consistency and dominance He was the only person in 2022 to not get massively upset and now he's only been winning. This could be the beginning There's no guarantee obviously, but I think it's possible
@GUT5S
@GUT5S Год назад
I think it's possible too, the only roadblock I see is Hbox, I fully believe that Jmook can level his Fox up to be a full counter because can Sheik really consistently win that MU?
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 Год назад
Nahhhhhhh aMSa numbaaaa oneeeeeeeeee
@pinnacull
@pinnacull Год назад
hbox will have a say in that
@KaitlynBurnellMath
@KaitlynBurnellMath Год назад
Yeah, I've also been thinking about how Jmook's rise feels very similar to Armada's. Shows up for a while, and gets top 3 but doesn't win cause he can't beat HBox. Then gets around the HBox problem and suddenly wins two majors in a row. Winning two majors in a row is pretty hard in the modern era (it happened once in all of 2021 and 2022 combined--Zain winning two majors at the start of 2022). Winning a major from losers bracket is also very hard these days. Jmook did both in the first two tournaments of the year.
@MorphBall1
@MorphBall1 Год назад
He has won two tournaments and he's yet to win a set against Hbox.
@byrne1807
@byrne1807 Год назад
Melee content has been blowing up at an all time high, even like a year or two ago most of the melee content I’d get recommended was random clips. Now I’m seeing minidocs and analysis videos like this way way more frequently and outside of some of the bigger names too. Super cool to see and that really does seem to be defining this era, pushing content in an accessible direction the same way slippi did to make getting into melee as even a casual spectator way more accessible than in the past
@samskott2344
@samskott2344 Год назад
I think that this modern era will mirror what the early Gods era looked like. Back when the 5 Gods era was still establishing, the way that the 5 pulled apart from the rest of the pack was their consistent placings above everyone else. From 2009-2011, the term "5 Gods" didn't exist yet, but they would emerge over time, proving they were the best (some examples were of course Armada's run at Genesis, Hungrybox's run at Apex 2010, Dr.PeePee's run at ROM3, etc). I think something similar will happen in this era. Right now, there is a lot of uncertainty and it seems like anyone seeded in the top 30 could potentially go out and get top 8 at a major. But we are already starting to see 3 newer players who are setting themselves up in a tier above the rest of the top 8 hopefuls (those 3 of course being Cody, Zain and Jmook). Over time I think some of the potentials (Wizzrobe, Moky, Llod, aMSa, Leffen, Plup, etc.) will either make that jump to join Zain, Jmook and Cody, while the others will fall into a lower tier the way that players like Sfat, Axe, Westballz, Hax, etc would fall into a tier below the 5 Gods. Do I think that we will ever see an era as dominant as the 5 Gods era was? Probably not, no, the competitive landscape is too big now, but I do think the true contenders will make themselves known with time.
@242bleek
@242bleek Год назад
This will be the most fun era Melee has ever experienced. Thanks to Slippi I think the game will grow significantly in popularity. It won't revolve around a few personalities like it did but build a large community. I think you will also see a rise in mid to low tiers and start seeing them dominate. Can't wait for what's to come.
@cypresshill9268
@cypresshill9268 Год назад
I wish yall the best but realistically who the fuck is gonna drop their main game to play melee against fat smelly nerds who have played it for 20 years realistically no one
@ayruahsramuk3914
@ayruahsramuk3914 Год назад
my theory is that this is the RPS era -- you'll see Jmook, IBDW, and Zain mostly taking each other out throughout tourneys, and whoever beats the other two will always face one more random contender. 20 players will be capable of being in the top 10 in the most hype ways. i am so happy to be here for Melee. ill also say that people will tune in for those 3 in the RPS, with everyone supporting their own player.
@BestSomebodyNA
@BestSomebodyNA Год назад
quite fitting how it's Marth, Fox, and Sheik, 3 characters that for the last decade have been played by countless players as viable characters but these three solo mains have just been tearing a warpath over the last 1.5-2 years. It's like Mew2King retired and split his three mains across three people and they all pushed these characters even further.
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer Год назад
I would like to include amsa but feels like Jmook, cody and zain would actually be the new "poster" face of this era
@e50013
@e50013 Год назад
1000% agree with your ending sentiments; everyone go thank your TOs! events allow the community to come together and I've always felt community is the most important part about the melee scene. great video!
@LeetTron5000
@LeetTron5000 Год назад
but he zoomed in on big house :(
@ChalerYT
@ChalerYT Год назад
I zoomed in on juggle guy the TO of the big house
@LeetTron5000
@LeetTron5000 Год назад
@@ChalerYT I just meant you zoomed into them as a whole, while saying as long as these guys are alive melee will be ok. But they no longer alive.
@luckymanx2978
@luckymanx2978 Год назад
Good video but music is too loud and changing the background music is kind of over centralizing the video
@Tsomomma
@Tsomomma Год назад
the volume maybe but the music changes are pretty hype imo
@Noah--07
@Noah--07 Год назад
​@@Tsomommayeah music changes are hype but volume can be turned down
@Ed-lg5qq
@Ed-lg5qq Год назад
Disagree entirely
@luckymanx2978
@luckymanx2978 Год назад
@@Ed-lg5qq okay then raise the volume
@Rockleefan3
@Rockleefan3 Год назад
Mang0 sets and Hbox sets also have a decent amount more views on RU-vid then the rest of the top players. I think we need more then a narrative, I think we need a video about current melee, that blows up on RU-vid. Like Emplemons video on hbox or the smash doc. But of course, it’s easier said then done. Maybe some figurehead should do a crowdfund, to pay for a melee essay from a famous essay-RU-vidr? Idk 🤷🏼‍♀️
@Frank-bn9us
@Frank-bn9us Год назад
I'm trying to see Samus ( Swooper / Wevans ) & DK ( Ringler / Junebug ) do it big !
@PersonaXlll
@PersonaXlll Год назад
THIS. I second. Congrats to Jmook never really like the dogshit character Shiek though or Fox lmao but I would LOVE to see a wild DK or Samus run this shit special shout out to AXE and Amsa
@Extension_cord11
@Extension_cord11 Год назад
It’s not shiek…it’s 20DK BABY
@MickyGsaysrah
@MickyGsaysrah Год назад
New Chaler content let's goooooooooooooooooooo
@nible8055
@nible8055 Год назад
0:23 guessing 64 is just a grave stone by now then
@Miracle7Seven
@Miracle7Seven Год назад
I hope online becomes a bigger thing, it got me into playing it, after having not been able to since I was a kid. My parents got a mean dog shaped creature, and it ate my disc.. and a lot of other things, and for the next 6 years after that, I took every chance to find another disc, but when slippi came out, I though it’d get torn down, but it’s still here, and I hope they can do free for all at some point, or offer a casual experience too with custom rules search or whatever. There’s always more melee to be played, it would help us if we can preserve the game as long as we can.
@Espurrz
@Espurrz Год назад
Bro the Mother 3 music was unexpected and appreciated. It smacked me with the feels from when I played the game forever ago.
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer Год назад
The outro is Mother 3 music?
@electromagneticlemon
@electromagneticlemon Год назад
Lowkey the history kind of underplays Hbox dominance. He was #1 for 3 years and we all just kind of see it as some bizarre transition period instead of an era in its own right
@yurplethepurple2064
@yurplethepurple2064 Год назад
I think hbox contributes to this too ngl, he was so dominant that I think he might not think it’s worth it for him to talk about how good he was/is lol, for the sake of his brand
@Alph4Falc0
@Alph4Falc0 Год назад
2023 is the year of the Kong
@TFalkon185
@TFalkon185 Год назад
You make such amazing videos, I see you climbing in popularity and I hope the best!
@DkKobaADV
@DkKobaADV Год назад
man seeing those shine clips and seeing myself in the audience.. its really been that long huh
@Tselel
@Tselel Год назад
Personally, I always liked calling the post-gods era Ragnarok.
@peanutbuttercracker1
@peanutbuttercracker1 Год назад
I'm glad someone else recognizes how much the Jump Force hub theme slaps
@actuallynotsteve
@actuallynotsteve Год назад
It's Donkey Kong and Samus time, and I - for one - am fucking for it
@silverview5244
@silverview5244 Год назад
Didn’t Hbox have an era where he dominated for a bit? Feels weird to talk about everyone, show him and not bring him up until the online stuff
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer Год назад
yeah he did, but nobody takes it into account
@punkin.4821
@punkin.4821 Год назад
I hope this era will become Zain, Cody, Jmook, aMSa let’s call it the Roman era potentially, the Roman’s took and changed the Greek gods but fudimentally were about the same, these big ten players are the ‘new gods’
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer Год назад
That's a cool name
@skatan4727
@skatan4727 Год назад
Content creators are doing the same thing as the players. The content is 100% leveling up
@OmenBurst
@OmenBurst Год назад
I feel its the era of meta breaking, and character climbing. Past eras built up the building blocks of peak competitive melee pushing top tiers to their peak. and now we are breaking those expectations of meta and the original game as a whole. I mean if you asked anyone back before the slippi era NO ONE would believe the people at the top being a yoshi and a sheik.
@MrKynzer
@MrKynzer Год назад
yeah feels like the game is maturing, hopefully one day a falco main will rise up like jmook did, and wouldn't mind another peach player
@OmenBurst
@OmenBurst Год назад
@@MrKynzer yeah another peach player for sure. but honestly please no falco. mango is great man but he caused the slippi falco masterace and its so annoying lmao. but because of slippi these falcons are bound to rise
@quiet-ndl3956
@quiet-ndl3956 Год назад
the fuckin jump force music lmao thats rad
@JDLupus
@JDLupus Год назад
Turn Down For Walt is another content creator who truly adds to the Melee scene; his "What To Expect" series in particular really helps with the hyping up of a tournament and gives familiarity to the viewers of the players that will be attending. I daresay you're reaching his level as far as quality content is concerned :)
@kestrelynn
@kestrelynn Год назад
On the topic of knowing players, as a spectator, I love when players stream just so you get to know them more. Unless you have an extremely unique gameplay style, it's hard to root for you just by what I see you do in tournement gameplay I didn't really care for Jmook until he went on Radio Melee then started streaming, now he's one of my favourite players because I know what he does Sparg0 in ult is a big example because I've watched every offline tournament thess at since 2021 and I have no idea who he is or what he's like. Of course thats okay, privacy online is hard and taking it where you can get it is a good idea, but it does mean I basically never root for him.
@maryk4y
@maryk4y Год назад
Great stuff
@jactotum
@jactotum Год назад
awesome video, you have a great style that i love to see applied to melee content
@brycecrispy
@brycecrispy Год назад
Loved your editing style bro, the gameplay in the back with you green screened onto the video isn't something I've seen in the melee space before now, keep up the good work
@SSB_Seal
@SSB_Seal Год назад
This video summarized some thoughts I've been having lately super well. Also, can you source the music used in the description please?
@13luken
@13luken Год назад
i loved the video but i really hope you either can get or have gotten a webcam with a higher framerate!! your videos are so great but the choppiness sometimes was distracting :/ please keep including your narrating self tho it really is great content
@Pittelite34
@Pittelite34 Год назад
Cool topic, but the 5 gods era was absolutely not 2007. That was the MLG era and was still mostly Ken. Not trying to be too critical, but you should definitely update the thumbnail to have ken era be 2006 and 5 gods be 2012-13
@ThirtyfourEC
@ThirtyfourEC Год назад
Jmook will awaken IC mains if he's not careful.
@figgiesfrommars
@figgiesfrommars Год назад
2030 - kirby
@troymcclure8012
@troymcclure8012 Год назад
my mans just predicted the unpredictable nature of the era, kinda sus
@jamesquartz7382
@jamesquartz7382 Год назад
I feel like most "eras" were identified after the fact, so to try to coin this new one as "an era of uncertainty" isn't really saying anything ] considering all of them were at one point,
@crasyman101
@crasyman101 Год назад
One thing that I loved about the narrative of smash is each generation has it's own top player title and they're not passed down. Ken will always be the King of smash Mango, Hbox, M2k, PPMD, and Armada will always be the Gods Plup, Axe, Wizzy, Sfat and S2j will always be the Demigods Leffen will always be the God slayer. Im exited to see what title we end up giving to Zain, Jmook Amsa and Cody. Imo they are the faces of the new era
@bananastan714
@bananastan714 Год назад
I like that there’s a chance to see upsets. I typically will try to watch top 8 live, but have recently been watching more than the top 8 bc the games are so tight.
@riskybusinessish
@riskybusinessish Год назад
great vid as always
@mr.mazoku1305
@mr.mazoku1305 Год назад
The music with you talking in the back at a lower volume is really weird, and i immediately came to comments about it.
@ChalerYT
@ChalerYT Год назад
yeah ngl i fucked the audio mixing on this one
@yatagarasu5775
@yatagarasu5775 Год назад
Got damn I fr gotta lower my volume rn
@pi2z806
@pi2z806 Год назад
based primal dialga music
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 Год назад
Part iv Rise of the low tiers
@shubh0
@shubh0 Год назад
whats the song at the outro/conclusion, that shit is fire.
@eddiestilll
@eddiestilll Год назад
melee just keeps getting better 🙂 both for spectators and competitors
@luckymanx2978
@luckymanx2978 Год назад
Bro every new point you make has a new background song lmao what is this, I can't take this seriously
@az3429
@az3429 Год назад
Bro now I'm focusing on it 💀💀 its so loud compared to his voice
@PreacherJenkins
@PreacherJenkins Год назад
Great video, maybe just turn down the music slightly
@VixxterityVT
@VixxterityVT Год назад
the upset era 😯
@Anonymous25491
@Anonymous25491 Год назад
2023 - The Death of Melee
@33kappa1
@33kappa1 Год назад
great video i already know it
@emonsees65
@emonsees65 Год назад
Anyone else as worried as me about melee potentially dying?
@peregrinecovington4138
@peregrinecovington4138 Год назад
I'm on the Zain train baby Zain for number 1 2023
@mariosavage1
@mariosavage1 Год назад
Good video, thank you
@alexvramby2633
@alexvramby2633 Год назад
what song is playing at 7:35
@jazzerjaw
@jazzerjaw Год назад
What's the song at 0:24 - 1:01????
@alabdark
@alabdark Год назад
You forget to put yoshi s shadow
@na-ve9cp
@na-ve9cp Год назад
song?
@Nyworin
@Nyworin Год назад
true
@hc661
@hc661 Год назад
good shit
@Clemjason14
@Clemjason14 18 дней назад
And now it is the end of 2024 and Zain just wins everything and it's boring...
@shanepoops5993
@shanepoops5993 Год назад
New viewer! Love the video!
@Skyzerie
@Skyzerie Год назад
good video
@milleretguillaume9374
@milleretguillaume9374 Год назад
So f* true !
@artemis.sonder
@artemis.sonder Год назад
Hbox era?!
@OhSoSnake
@OhSoSnake Год назад
Hey, this isn't related to the subject matter of your video itself, but I wanted to let you know that I think the music in your video is mixed too loud--it's louder than your voice in many instances (some songs are louder than others). Like at 2:46, it feels like the music is taking up way more of the foreground more than your voice. I'd say maybe make the music about 10-15% less loud, and/or make your voice about 10% louder. I hope this helps!
@royalnitehawk2517
@royalnitehawk2517 Год назад
bro would someone please tell me the song at 2:06
@murasemii
@murasemii Год назад
oh IIRC that's Challenge Mission 5 from Sonic Generations now can you tell me the track at the very end of the video lol
@royalnitehawk2517
@royalnitehawk2517 Год назад
@@murasemii thank you
@royalnitehawk2517
@royalnitehawk2517 Год назад
@@murasemii also i don't know the track at the end
@larrystevensons9672
@larrystevensons9672 Год назад
another banger vid
@calebschumacher7225
@calebschumacher7225 Год назад
nice vid
@fullm3tal90
@fullm3tal90 Год назад
Post YOSHI era*
@GalaxianSR
@GalaxianSR Год назад
I personally love the uncertainty in tournaments, seeing diverse top 8s n shit is so sick, I might actually get back into watching it now
@GUT5S
@GUT5S Год назад
JGoat
@deathangeleas2401
@deathangeleas2401 Год назад
"Its Uncertainty, no one will be predict what will happen in this era" Including the games death.
@KellyCosby
@KellyCosby Год назад
This game is trash bruv.
@scorpiomelancholia1559
@scorpiomelancholia1559 Год назад
Ain't the smash community full of predators and weirdos?
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