When A Low Tier Changed Melee Forever

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In 2020, a Melee Marth Player decided to drop down to the bottom tier, picking Roy, the 6th worst character in the game. In the end, history was created.
This is the story of The Wrath of Roy
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0:00 Intro
1:46 Why is Roy Terrible?
3:07 Tournament Begins
12:31 The Wrath of Roy Awakens
15:52 The Final Boss
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@ax0l297 Год назад

>ditches main >mains a ''bad'' character >makes his username ''DontTestMe'' as a provocation >destroys the enitre tournament >makes the grand finalist rage quit chad

@Galdr Год назад

Indeed. A Gigachad imo. This was so awesome to watch ngl. Also your comment is just perfect.

@yams7355 Год назад

Then grandfinalist literally be like "I'm not mad" hehehe

@queuedjar4578 Год назад

@@yams7355 To ginger's credit, This rona rumble was played on delay based netcode, which does give Roy a lot of advantage over Falco especially since inputs would get dropped and lag spikes would be a lot more unpredictable. As someone who did play a lot of Roy on anther's ladder with delay based netcode, and has cheesed a lot of Falcos, I can actually understand completely if one were salty. Ginger took it well.

@yams7355 Год назад

@@queuedjar4578 fair

@prw56 Год назад

@@queuedjar4578 Knowing that doesn't change how happy I was that roy won. I don't know how that disadvantage compares to the low tier character disadvantage, but its really boring seeing the same characters play and win every time. Anyone who mixes it up and actually manages to go the distance feels like a fuckin hero.

@Khan-bq8qc Год назад

He proved that a skilled Roy can beat any Fox

@Khan-bq8qc Год назад

also really well done vid deserves more views

@YungLilBoii Год назад

It wasn't a meme. It was a prophecy...

@moistmarsupial3528 Год назад

And that... is destiny fulfilled

@carnage0685 Год назад

It makes me wonder if he actually meant like, when both are played at their maximum potential, Roy will almost always win, like, the character just naturally beats Fox or something.

@memekip7499 Год назад

The year Is no longer 20XX...

@MitchBurns Год назад

Ginger did the calmest most polite and respectful rage quit I’ve ever seen.

@RisingRevengeance Год назад

Always fun to see "bad" characters do well

@marlin4393 Год назад

DK gang rise up

@beauhendershot7911 Год назад

Hey all im saying is that the bad did not have to be in quotation’s, Roy is indeed horrible

@GatorOne-in7hk Год назад

@@beauhendershot7911 He has disadvantages but he can’t be the sixth worst character if you can potentially win with him.

@beauhendershot7911 Год назад

@@GatorOne-in7hk roy is way more exploitable than the other low tiers imo, his moves are just way too weak and other characters like young link, game and watch, mewtwo, dk, and big link are all way better than him

@lemmycetay9632 Год назад

@@GatorOne-in7hk We are talking about one of (if not) the best player in the game, this win isn't bc of roy, it's just that zain is a fucking good player

@queuedjar4578 Год назад

8:30 to clarify this interaction, DTM did actually get the correct hitbox of reverse up B (the first hitbox is the one that kills puff), though it's a hitbox with set knockback, meaning that at any percent, this move won't actually kill puff on battlefield off the floor (barring some very bad DI). The percentage is completely irrelevant, even at 999% the reverse up B still sends puff at the same height. It will only kill off the floor at 0% on stages with low ceilings (FD, Yoshi's, Stadium).

@SimbyDimby 10 месяцев назад

I used this tactic to get the Mr Resetti 5 cruel melee ko's back in the day. Nice to know why it worked!

@spudsbuchlaw Год назад

Things i've learned from this video: -Roy is the best character in melee -Zain is untestable, and therefore, unscientific

@Icemario87 11 месяцев назад

the only things that matter in life are untestable.

@Prod.4D 11 месяцев назад

@@Icemario87no cap

@ladygeneveve3805 8 месяцев назад

@@Icemario87i dunno, food tastes pretty good

@Icemario87 8 месяцев назад

@@ladygeneveve3805 Cannibals say people taste like pork.

@StanleySophana Год назад

As someone who mains Roy, seeing DontTestMe win a tourney with Roy was the best thing to happen in Melee history

@fangzgaming5510 Год назад

I main Luigi and Roy, seeing others play these two is awesome. Glad my mains finally getting respect.

@fangzgaming5510 Год назад

*our mains getting respect*

@kamariz3153 Год назад

🥲

@Styxz__ Год назад

Same

@simplyhoodie Год назад

I main Link, so I love seeing low teirs do well in any form.

@vampenga9277 Год назад

Growing up I played a lot of Roy. I wasn't aware/cared about the competitive side and the whole tiers thing back then so I just played for fun. I just liked him as a character. So all these years later seeing someone put genuine time and effort into practicing Roy and having it pay off is just phenomenal. Mad props to Don'tTestMe.

@Icemario87 11 месяцев назад

same, here

@andrew-coronel-9016 Год назад

ROY'S OUR BOY.

@saltyralts Год назад

the juxtaposition of Marth against Roy in Melee is pretty accurate to their games, lol Marth solos his game while Roy eats dirt and does 3 damage a hit

@gonegone963 Год назад

ROY’S OUR BOY.

@EverythingArchived703 11 месяцев назад

ROY'S OUR BOY.

@jajajaun 7 месяцев назад

BOY’S OUR ROY.

@Captaincookie_yt 6 месяцев назад

I CANT BELIVE DONT TEST ME THE ROY HAS BEATEN BOBBY BIG BALLLS

@Kpsla Год назад

Imagine being Ginger in what could have been the greatest comeback victory in Melee history and losing it all to a bottom 5 character.

@IToastMySocks Год назад

Eh, it could still be seen as a good comeback. Zain just overcame all the obstacles in his path and came out on top.

@ghoulbuster1 Год назад

RIP BOZO

@sipinosapa Год назад

Finally. A skilled Roy

@kaja3932 Год назад

finally, Fox is no more

@ClassicBentobox Год назад

I’ve always believed Roy is a slightly underrated character greatly overshadowed by how op Marth is

@FFKonoko Год назад

That is a pretty accurate summation. He is only slightly underrated. But the contrast to Marth makes the difference so palpable and painful.

@bluedistortions 10 месяцев назад

Same

@dinospumoni5611 2 дня назад

nah Roy is absolute fucking ass, Zain is just that good

@ClassicBentobox 2 дня назад

@@dinospumoni5611 Say what you will even a year later I can’t in good faith say he’s in the same tier as Zelda and Bowser but maybe I’ll be shown wrong when someone pushes them this far

@matthewzakrzewski1797 Год назад

When you were explaining the reverse up-b, zain did hit the right hit of it. It's just that the kill only works on stages with lower ceilings, particularly yoshi story and pokemon stadium.

@OhSoSnake Год назад

But with more % racked up, the kill potential DOES return: on medium stages, I'd wager that Roy UpB starts to kill around 20-30%, and maybe at like 50% on Dreamland and Fountain, but yeh.

@amadora6476 3 месяца назад

it either kills at 0 or it doesnt kill you can maybe kill from a plattfrom tho @@OhSoSnake

@Alexrun902 Год назад

Zain's truly earned the title of best player in the world since he's able to dominate tournaments with his Marth and be a low tier legend with Roy at the same time.

@aicunix Год назад

i think that this is a testament to the fact that the most important skill of melee is not wave-shining or being frame perfect. it's being able to adapt

@flameblade3 Год назад

This, to me, isn’t just a message to Roy mains, but to low tier players everywhere. Melee is one of the more tier heavy fighting games I know of, and seeing a near bottom tier take home a hard fought victory against both top tiers and bad matchups is such a strong message of “low tier doesn’t mean shit if you don’t let it”

@tigerwarrior1787 Год назад

As Abridged Vegeta once said: "Powerlevels are Bullsh**!"

@TheBrimmyRat Год назад

@@tigerwarrior1787 “Come on, Roy, with your tier list placement? You are no Jigglypuff, you are no Marth, and you are CERTAINLY no spacie. You are just Roy.” “Well, you know what? FUCK TIER LIST PLACEMENTS, FUCK SPACIES. AND FUCK YOU.”

@rayzuke1232 Год назад

This message should have always been clear since H-Box took championships with Jigglypuff.

@FFKonoko Год назад

@Rayzuke I feel like people forgot that jigglypuff used to be rated way lower.

@rayzuke1232 Год назад

@@FFKonoko For real. Only H-Box manages it to get into the top 10 with Jigglypuff consistently . No one else displayed that amount skill. But now seemingly no one seems to acknowledge that Jigglipuff is a low Tier character even when said character has only 2 viable moves as oppose to half of the moveset to be viable.

@VestedUTuber Год назад

I'm not surprised that this happened. Roy always felt like a character who could have been good, but was held back by just three significant issues - particularly, his questionable recovery, combo bait fast fall and his terrible range. If you ignore that he's basically just a rushdown-focused version of Marth. It takes a lot of effort, but if you can get around his flaws Roy _can_ be pretty solid, it's just that the difficulty of working around those flaws is the problem.

@Appletank8 Год назад

I feel like the devs forgot to give Roy an actual sweet spot around his hand, it’s just not a sour spot. It’s so sad seeing that pool noodle of a sword get aerials that barely stun or knock back.

@Bigzthegreat Год назад

nah this is fox coppeium, because he played such a bad character he just got better

@VestedUTuber Год назад

@@Bigzthegreat Right, because obviously top tiers are "just good" and bottom tiers are "just bad", no other reason for it. Dumbass.

@YyNRCyY 9 месяцев назад

I disagree. the one thing no one has commented on is the caliber of players in this tournament. U switch ginger with Hbox, Cody schwab, moky, jmook, mang0, amsa… literally any top 10 and he’s getting beat Roy is shit marth. Even with all the experience he has on a similar character he barely won. Testament to zains skills and Roy’s shitness

@VestedUTuber 9 месяцев назад

@@YyNRCyY Yeah, that's an is-aught fallacy and a fallacy of four terms all wrapped up into a single argument. You've made no actually statements about Roy, all you've basically tried to say is that "the character is bad because the player would be beaten by other players if they were competing".

@milesprower6110 Год назад

Is this the consequences of people ignoring a characters because of a table that the day they end up facing such character, it's unknown for them?

@vocalcalibration8033 Год назад

Basically. A lack of matchup knowledge, not knowing what they need to do against a character with their own. It is low tier characters greatest strength at a competitive level.

@Spiffyo Год назад

Yeah a friend whose a pretty costant ultimate player doesn't really expect me to go in with Link to attack with my sword since he's generally considered a spacey. Hell I like playing Isabelle and trounch swordfighters as she and villager have a unique playstyle that they aren't used to.

@bradfjord Год назад

People quit out against low tiers most of the time. Makes it harder to learn to play and learn to fight the wacky low tiers.

@thegamingguy1 Год назад

It's not like it's hubris that people don't know this matchup like that, there are just literally no other Roy players close to Zains skill. It's not that people are under cutting bad characters, Zain is just on a different level. I've been going to my local like 2 years and never played a Roy. Theyre just not out there, it's not that people ignore the matchup.

@redhand8836 Год назад

@@thegamingguy1 actually it's a self fulfilling prophecy situation, happens in a lot of fighting games. Tier lists get made, usually early on before any tech or strats are heavily labbed. People focus on the higher tiers to lab, as the meta evolves it becomes based around the high tiers that were picked out early on(unless some wildcard shenanigans happen and a low tier gets bumped up due to someone actually developing tech for it early on instead of sleeping on it), after a while people only play the characters that got heavily labbed as high tiers in the games beginning, and the low tiers are now justified as such due to not having the same tools as the characters the meta is based off of now, so no one plays them because they're low tier. It's not necessarily hubris, or even a flawed system, it's just one of those quirks of the format. They're low tier so no one plays them, and no one plays them because they're low tier.

@TeamHeropon Год назад

Low tier characters can lead to some fun match ups. If you win, you get people interested in that character and feel like a badass for your skill. If you lose, it's because you were using a low tier character for fun.

@newjumpcityjosh9333 Год назад

This is how majority of DK players in Ultimate feel Lmao it’s always a win win for them 😂

@Masaru_kun Год назад

Nice i appreciate you pointing out how impressive Ginger's loser's run was, beating Dawson, Aklo, KJH, Reeve, and BBB all in convincing manner.

@sonsauvage Год назад

Any man with a Shiba as a pet has unlimited patience and dedication, and when it comes to training them, a sheer force of will. So I'm not surprised at the result at all 😂

@typicalchris1941 Год назад

Just so you know Roy’s reverse up b only has one hit box the only reason why Jigglypuff didn’t die is because battlefield has a high ceiling. Yoshis story FD and PS are the only Tournament Legal stages where it will kill on the ground at Zero

@apleb7605 Год назад

The prophecy of a Skilled Roy has been fulfilled.

@Pixel_Drip 8 месяцев назад

You can't even blame Ginger for the quit. He won 5 consecutive games AND reset the loser bracket just for it to all be gone in the blink of an eye. He still had the courtesy to admit defeat and say ggs to Zain. Amazing.

@Kmn483 Год назад

As a once hardcore dedicated roy main, it's nice that he finally got a tourney win. People really don't expect much out of him.

@joeysummers8830 Год назад

How come Bobby gets his butt shown and everyone else gets a respectable face shot 😂

@juuseu4083 9 месяцев назад

As someone who never played professionally, but played Roy all the time as a kid, this really warms my heart to see an underrated character kick ass. 😎

@keksidy Год назад

It finally happened A skilled Roy beat Fox

@MushokuShiro Год назад

Bro, thank you for this video. This needed to be documented, someone had to do it, and you did it. Here's a sub

@MushokuShiro Год назад

Man's even got a fresh cut to make the video. That's how you know he's committed.

@leogonzalez6751 Год назад

Congrats man ❤️ I know you were working hard on this

@milk-dq7fu Год назад

Shoutouts to ginger. Took the loss well. Even if he was actually upset he did the right thing. The goat

@zogbogbean2464 10 месяцев назад

He cried and ran, that’s not takin it well.

@Cainb23 9 месяцев назад

in what world is that taking it well? taking it well is letting the game play out, congratulating the opponent, and not instantly getting of stream. not rage quitting and passive aggressively saying gg nd leaving stream instantly lmao

@arbytimber Год назад

I LOVE this video format. You pitched the story together so perfectly. Like a melee summoning salt. Keep it up dude👍

@Piggles64099 Год назад

This video was an absolute masterpiece and such a treat to watch! Keep on keep’n on!

@sleepdrowsy7286 Год назад

Love these videos Nice to have a consistent melee channel to watch

@hibernate44 Год назад

Videos like these are so important for getting new players. Great work.

@Nixdigo Год назад

My biggest issue with your videos is I feel like you have three different introductions that all convey the same information. Words are a lot like photographs one photo is better than a whole album. Subscribed

@BlinzerOmega Год назад

i really like the effort and cinematic way you made the vid, it's really good work. keep it up man!

@jakegripss Год назад

Awesome work, nice to see the enthusiasm at the end too!

@ghoulbuster1 Год назад

Fear the man who practices one character 1000 times...

@mysteriousghosts935 Год назад

Yo nice documentary !! really like the story everytime you talk about story i didn't knew about always awesome to discover piece of history in smash !!!

@SPMask Год назад

Roy didn't change the meta, Zain did, still waiting on him to go back to him :/

@GatorOne-in7hk Год назад

I don’t think you can call Roy a low tier if he was able to do this. Don’tTestMe is a freaking hero to Roy mains everywhere!

@chrispo7610 Год назад

P sure zain himself calls roy bad lol

@kirbyfreakyt4695 Год назад

Also his hitboxes are broken and end early He's most certainly bad... But just like Little Mac, it always feels like he has a CHANCE when used right.

@Non-disjunction Год назад

Roy is incredible bad, but shares some neutral options with Marth, in which Zain is incredibly good with

@tezereth Год назад

He’s low because of some weakness in how he’s design, but never forget that he still do the work if you play properly.

@Left4Cake Год назад

I don't think characters are teired based on 1 guy getting insanely good with them.

@im50yearsold 8 месяцев назад

The same can be said for a lot of low tier/trash strategies in games with established metas when played at a high level. Bring in something really weird and throw your opponents off who are only used to playing within meta constraints

@nickdoe8774 Год назад

Happy you’re doing this, liked and subscribed I want to see more. I really like your editing and the music you choose. Improve that writing and we got Tdfw 2 on the way

@dogindagrass Год назад

Roy was my main when I was a kid! Love seeing this stuff!

@auraguard0212 Год назад

Isn't Roy just Marth with an enigmatic sweet spot?

@twobrosgamers8426 Год назад

Falco: Give up low tier scum! Roy: I made a promise to take this trophy to Lilina, and I'm gonna keep it!

@chillmadude Год назад

i feel like "killed at this percent, which is like someone else killing at that percent" is really obvious to the point of being redundant for those who already play melee, while being an unintelligible string of gibberish for those who dont

@sagacious03 Год назад

Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

@eddiestilll Год назад

i remember when the pandemic first started, this was like the craziest thing to happen to melee when donttestme dropped LOL

@soniccane1117 Год назад

Some amazing storytelling here! Great video and great Melee.

@comagreeny7194 Год назад

8:30 It was not the hitbox, it was the map and jigglypuffs DI. Pretty sure Roy only has 1 hitbox with that huge of a set knockback.

@DrDeez-do9zo Год назад

Seeing people just wreck the competition with characters many would see as "bad" just makes melee feel so much more fun in a way i cant fully describe. Its also nice to know that playing these unvonventional characters started with hungrybox's jigglypuff.

@hannibal8810 Год назад

mang0 was winning tourneys with puff before hbox, and the idea that a top tier like her is at all comparable to roy is ridiculous

@KindaKaon Год назад

Completely mad to me you’re only at 3k subs. Keep at it man, you have such a talent

@kaded_ Год назад

I love this new era of melee video essays

@WhatsWrongBuddy Год назад

broooo this video is amazing, can'twaitfor morelike these

@nathangonzalez- Год назад

Ahh my day is slightly better now that you dropped this video, thank you man 🤝

@smashbrosfiend Год назад

fantastic video! thanks for telling this story

@morphball2314 Год назад

8:35 he did get the correct hitbox, it just doesn't kill on that stage, BF ceiling is too high

@slimballs9650 10 месяцев назад

20:12 It’s the same with me and my voice sometimes. When I hear myself talk, I sound perfectly fine, and then I hear my voice in a recording and it sounds downright awful.

@PikangsFutaba 11 месяцев назад

The irony of the situation is that we usually underestimate those low tiers and end up paying the price big time for that, the lesson here is always think that you need to take the fight seriously right from the get-go, no matter what.

@YyNRCyY 9 месяцев назад

I think rather it shows it’s the player not the character to some degree. Players like Armada arguably the goat on a character that hasn’t seen any high placings since his retirement. kinda strange with how dominant he was that none of the top players even tried to pick her up as even a secondary. Or players like Hbox who was on a crazy run several years ago and made people mald and rethink matchups as well as garner so much hate and bitching (Leffen when anything isn’t going his way or to his little goblin ass liking)

@YOSSARIAN313 Год назад

Keep covering low tier legends its great. Id love to see a video on the best tournament run of a game and watch or bowser player

@Ryanzba Год назад

I love the background music I feel like im making a venture through the sahara

@t-wrexgamer6294 Год назад

If you want to know how Roy’s reverse up b works it’s because the move is a multi hit, however in order to make it connect properly the first hit has a fixed knockback that is absurdly high, reversing the up b can let you hit that one hitbox without anything else and the fixed knockback is so high that the lighter characters in the game just straight out die to it, this includes puff who’s really the only one it matters against.

@yaboiparalysis7435 Год назад

great video man

@QuintBlitz Год назад

As a true Roy main, this video instantly warms my heart, thanks for the upload!

@QuintBlitz 11 месяцев назад

@@brothir Someone who plays Roy for fun in game 1, but switches to a higher tier should they lose.

@Doxsein Год назад

Nice video, I enjoyed it and learned something interesting

@FirePuff12 11 месяцев назад

Love this video 🔥

@Thewildmanrules Год назад

Great vid! Keep it up :)

@LCDRformat 2 дня назад

"Proved that any Roy could win any tournament," "ANY" Roy?!? You sure bout that

@ddplzz Год назад

Great docu my dude, watched the whole thing and gave a like. Gonna ad a commet to boost the algo. Keep it up my dude

@Larsthecool 15 часов назад

The way this video is edited is as if Roy is some creepypasta 😭

@totalphantasm Год назад

I thought that pause-no context input was going to be followed with much much more rage lmao

@gotgud Год назад

Awesome vid!

@nicung4946 4 дня назад

The horribly stretched melee gives this such a retro melee feel

@jon630 11 месяцев назад

I'm not upset, I just don't want to have to deal with whatever I'm about to experience.

@tigusvaton8406 Год назад

Been mailing roy since melee man this brought me nearly to tears 😭

@MarMaxGaming Год назад

Roy's smash attack is unreal, was always blown away by what it does to somebody not even at 40%

@silaspq Год назад

unless its the noodle hitbox which dosent even kill puff at 150 which is insanly sad

@MarMaxGaming Год назад

@@silaspq so true, I just remember getting blasted by some friends back in the day.. the noodle hit box is a damn shame. I saw that puff moment in the vid too, very sad!

@GioGiotaro 8 месяцев назад

That was the most anime tournament I've ever seen, and I loved it!

@Riako Год назад

I'm convinced that characters are only low tier because no one has truly used them to their full potential. (...excluding the times when the character, genuinely, actually and definitely sucks...)

@MitchBurns Год назад

I love how at 3:30 you show a clip of Zane where he is literally in Ludwig’s steaming room helping him cheat. Lol

@carlosfromearth Год назад

I have waited so many years for a player to show off Roy. Finally here.

@gmanji909 11 месяцев назад

Bobby got bopped so bad he didn't even make it in the video 😂

@TheIrrelevantYT Год назад

Zain, Round 2: "Then something just snapped, something inside of me." (DEADLY GUITAR RIFF)

@samuelrodrigues9071 Год назад

_I didn't care anymore._

@hollowtrees6669 Год назад

Didn’t realize how crazy this run was Great video, important part of melees history

@jimmygarza8896 Год назад

Can't wait for someone to roflstomp a tournament with Pichu/Kirby/Bowser.

@lucaswickmansound 7 месяцев назад

“DontTestMe” has the same exact energy as “I’m not gonna sugarcoat it”

@GoldenDeerGuy 7 месяцев назад

I was literally laughing about that meme last night 💀

@noisepollution4473 Год назад

great video!

@pisslizard01 Год назад

can't believe this was already almost 3 years ago

@Quasartist Год назад

You know, I'm not super informed about Smash overall, and I'm especially lacking in Melee knowledge, but I feel like every character has the potential to be the next aMSa's Yoshi. The game has had such a set-in-stone tier list for so long regarding the top 5 or 6 characters that it wouldn't surprise me to see Roy jumping 10 spots up if more people would commit to him and really optimize him by figuring out what works and what doesn't on a more technical level. Same could be said for a lot of characters. The spotlight is so narrow that anyone in their right mind trying to get into competitive would obviously pick Marth, Puff, Sheik, or a Spacey. I think a lot of characters are untapped because there's just not enough attention on them.

@mrbaconbeast8902 Год назад

The top tiers have been the same places for almost all the games lifetime but honestly the mid tier and tournament viable characters always change just because one dude picked them up and showed what's podsible

@queuedjar4578 Год назад

As far as melee goes, there are some inherently just dogwater aspects of low tiers. Regardless, these weaknesses are null and void if someone can use their strengths well enough, especially given Melee's controls, tech, and movement options making the tier list a lot more flexible and more of a suggestion than a rule.

@Icemario87 11 месяцев назад

The tier list grew out of millions of matches. Low tier characters are not low tier due to a lack of popularity. They lack popularity because they are low tier. Fox wasn't the favorite, Shiek was. It wasn't until people's skill level could begin to harness Fox's potential that Fox started to become more popular.

@Prikense 7 месяцев назад

the reverse upb only kills jiggly and G&W at 0% with no DI from the floor on pokemon stadium and yoshis, so even with bad DI at 8:15 on that stage at that height it would have never killed

@smoceany9478 Год назад

zain did get the right hitbox on that first reverse up b, it doesnt kill there

@auraguard0212 Год назад

Roy ducking under attacks because he's so small is actually fairly accurate to the source material.

@saltyralts 5 месяцев назад

Well, yeah. Melee IS the source material. Melee released before The Binding Blade.

@auraguard0212 5 месяцев назад

@@saltyralts WHAT

@lisan-al Год назад

bro made an entire doc on zain's roy in slippi ranked

@SpeakerofWhispers Год назад

You mean to tell me that Roy is, in fact, our boy?

@luckybusinesssuit Месяц назад

Roy’s reverse up B on jigglypuff only kills on fd without platforms, the battlefield match with the puff he tried it without platforms which is why it didn’t kill, he did get the right hit box

@DuskoftheTwilight Год назад

Roy's our boy! Roy's our boy!

@dogebisquit Год назад

sick vid!

@rmg480 Год назад

It's like the accounts on treatises of sword masters in the day, saying that they should be as cautious when fighting a fool that has never used a sword as when facing one versed in the blade. An expert has fought countless other swordsmen before, and can anticipate how they'll act, but an untrained person with a sword will never do what you expect.