Well that fued is long over. Krist and Duff are homies and jammed live before. Dave has interviews Duff for sound city. He also invited slash over for his birthday bash, and lend Axl Rose his guitar throne when he injured his ankle. Everything fades in time.
Is one supposed to assemble them a certain way to bounce that way, I find that cool as well, but just have a edrum so far😃 wanna know for when i get a acoustic set hopefully
I used to set up my pillows in the arrangement of a drum set and beat the ever living fuck out of them playing Nevermind and In Utero. I mean BEAT the fuck outta my pillows. There were holes in them by the end of the summer. Now I have a drum kit and I’m more worried about poking holes in them. Thanks Dave 😹
relate hardcore and your sentence just sent me into nostalgia frenzy i was too young for this album but remember being a kid blaring rob zombie sinister urge album riding my bike lmao
According to Andy Wallace, who mixed the album, only a small amount of sampling was used on the snare, to give it a sort of shotgun like reverb... but ge claims it was mixed very low. What you hear is Dave Grohl playing an acoustic kit.
honestly you guys blow me away, i wouldnt tell the difference between the album - and your drummer is spot on. if i closed me eyes i wouldnt be able to tell at all from the original, except when the tom fill came in, it sounded a little dryer than the original, daves toms sounded a touch more open, but your toms sounded killer either way. well done you guys are doing good stuff.
In the world of pro drum recording, compressors are a drum sounds primary component. I didnt think this attempt was very successful at recreation, but still very very good. Mics and compression whether its comp units or natural tape compression, is the key.
Wrong! The sound of the instrument always comes first and is the most important. The compression makes a difference but won't turn a Jazz kit into a Metal kit - you have to get it right at the source. And it sounds like they did use compression in the mix.
I started out on drums playing open handed like you do in this video. Everyone thought I was playing wrong so I unlearned it. Wish I hadn't, Mike Bordin is one of fave drummers who also plays this way.
Snare sounds very different. Like there’s no wires. But still a good try! And it just reminds how much there is to be done in sound design and production. Thank for your efforts and explanations!
@@ArtOfDrumming I agree with Daniel that the snare sounds a little off But everything else sounds really great especially the bass drum. Still a great drum sound overall.
@@bbeau2023 that sounds about right. I got my pair in 1997. The catalogs for Zildjian back then didn't list the specific size for the artist. Not sure they sold the 15 inch version but he was listed as playing those. He might play New Beats now as someone mentioned.
Fall/early winter 1991 was an amazing time for music on MTV. So much amazing music hit during this short time. Pearl Jam released "Alive", then Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" hit and it get everyone's attention! It was new, raw and a contrast to the tired poser metal scene that had become so sold out by the "hair bands" like Warrant, Winger, Bang Tango, Firehouse, etc... Nirvana's "Nevermind" album was the biggest change to rock since Guns & Roses' "Appetite for Destruction" exactly 4 years earlier, and was the beginning of the Grunge movement.
There is an old gearspace thread where butch goes through and discusses the drum setup for Nevermind. The kick used an AKG D12 and had a drum tunnel with a FET 47 at the end. I'm not so sure about the dampening, the original kick sounds very boingy to me. Snare is a 80s bell brass with a 57 on top and most likely a 451 on the bottom. The kit was an 80s grandstar. According to Butch "Any samples Andy added to the mix were triggered with an AMS sampler, and never printed to tape...so if you're hearing samples, someone else added them, and they were not used in the original mix of Nevermind."
Im cool w his shirt, maybe he's just a 90s kid that grew up listening to the likes of gnr, metallica, pearl jam, nirvana etc. Im glad he didnt wear a nirvana shirt playing a nirvana song 😂🤣
This video is more of a flex of their drums and hardware than it is a sound recreation. Video flex 10/10 sound recreation 8/10 sound recreation for any other decent drum set in tune 8/10
Well, I'm a critic myself when it comes to sounds in recordings. Especially when it comes to the drumkit for I'm a rockdrummer myself. But this Nirvana sound you created...that's darn good! And like you said it yourself, when you hear the sound of the kit it's good but not very special but when the rest of the band kicks in...Heaven! Good job dude!
My Tama Imperial star kit has a 24"kick 14" and 16" mounted toms and 18" and 20" inch floor toms. I used it with a 14x4 piccolo snare that was not part of the original kit. Though today, I no longer use acoustic drums.
A good job to be fair. I think Dave used an old Gretsch or Ludwig when recording Nevermind along with the Tama Bell Brass snare. The snare which has been on countless records including The Colour and the Shape. Drums are never easy to replicate because drums sound different from room to room. Great video man sounded really nice.
First time seeing this channel and I like this idea. I think it’d be cool if we could also get an in the box recreation in which you use virtual drums like Superior Drummer, Steven Slate Drums, or BFD3 for us non drummers Refused’s The Shape Of Punk To Come would be a great one to do. That album’s drum sound is absolutely unreal in my opinion, as is David Sandstrom’s playing
Hello Billy! Thanks much for your detailed feedback! We always always trying our best. We will definitely make sure to get your suggestions up on our list 👌!
The snare that was actually used on the Nevermind album was a Tama Bell Brass which now is rather rare and quite expensive of you find one turn up. Same snare was also used on Metallica’s Black album. Just mixed differently.
Definitely one of the best sounding snares there is. But as you mentioned pretty rare and very expensive. One of our goals with those videos is to demonstrate that you can also create a similar sound with more standard and affordable equipment. Sure the bell brass snare is awesome and we would be really happy to have one in our studio but you can get very close with other metal snares as well. For our enter sandman video we used a cheaper tama bronze snare. That one worked really well for that specific sound!
Your videos are so well done. This one I could do without personally but another winner. I'm sure it's been commented on a ton already but I guess it was the Tama Bell Brass he used on this album. Would have been cool to find a brass drum for this one. That snare you've got just doesn't quite have the balls.
Drum technology has advanced so much since then it must have been quite the challenge to recreate that strange noise Nirvana made with their ancient drum kit.
Sonor have always been at the forefront of innovation, I dont know how different the "technology" is from the 90's though. The only thing I've seen is virgin drums and a shitload of custom bearing edges. I'm not a purist though, I'll play anything.. just like Audiophiles everyones going to like what they like regardless of how it actually sounds
Butch Vig didn't use any samples, not even Andy Wallace who mixed the song. Sometimes he uses snare samples for triggering reverbs 100% wet, but he's not sure if he even did that on this song.
There are indeed samples on it, would've come from Wallace. If you've got the stems floating around you can actually hear it mis-trigger at times in the snare track.
@@wesjett2008 @Wes Jett I doubt they could let that slip on a major label record. His samples are completely wet in reverb with no attack, the attack comes from the real tracks. Andy says he probably used those behind the real tracks.
@@rockboy360 I'd rather listen to the stems to hear what's happening. I can pull up the session right now and hear the mis-trigger. It happens just enough for someone experienced in audio engineering and production to notice. He might claim to have not used samples but it's there. The best proof of this besides the snare sound being so drastically different between the Vig mixes and the Wallace mixes.
@@wesjett2008an ambience sample can change the tone a lot too, I've experienced this myself on my own mixes. The good thing is that keeping the attack from the original snare makes it sound natural.
He sold me a set of Gretsch too. I think they used the Brass Tama snare known as The Terminator on this. Lars used it too, so did Rage. If you can find one, they’re going for $5,000.
@@upnorthdrummer8611 Yeah, I believe the Terminator Brass snare was used on the Black album and Nirvana's Nevermind. Pretty insane history with that drum. Makes you wonder what it's worth!
Should've opened the hats another count before closing before the "yay" part, but pretty close drum sound anyway. A little lower tuning on the snare and less compression, and you got the Nevermind drums setup.
The snare is not quite there but that's a mixing thing. Sound is perfect! The original snare has a little more dshhhh to it. If you add a little reverb it would do it. I bet the drum kit sounded just like this only that mr Vig changed it a bit on the mixer...
Good video as usual but i don‘t agree with the snare sound …. Not enough tone and body imo........btw, the way the drummer plays the right crash will lead relative early to crack it.......again: imo....."..
Yeah I think the kick and toms are pretty close, but trying to replicate that snare sound is hard. It’s like the golden goose of snare drums… good vid though!
