Smite 2 Pros and Cons  

really?

Not enough inputs for that if you want controller support

@@razinik this yeah. you're not buying potions late game anyway, so them taking up slots isn't an issue

@@razinikif you play on savage mode, there’s like 4 buttons left for inputs lols 😂 Which if you’re not on savage or savage plus on controller wtf are you doing 😂

@@ItsOSAbaby oh maybe I'm mistaken (I play kb&m), but I've seen so much complaining about the extra buttons for controller already that I think any more would cause an exodus lol

@@razinik yes yes you are lol 😂 but it’s okay, you’re on M&K so you wouldn’t know. I’m disappointed in the console players who think that though 🤣 cause you can just program the abilities to your triggers and your ult to 2 triggers at once and then whatever else to the buttons. And you still have the left thumb stick input lmfaooo

It felt like that to me as well.

Exactly what my buddy said. On console actives were absolutely terrible. Adds many more keybinds for a controller.

Huh? Are they not just LT + 1 button...? I found them perfectly fine

They absolutely have lmfao. All the CCs that used to last up to 2s only last like 1.2s or 1.6s now. There’s a lot of changes to CC durations and I can only see that happening more.

@@Anirudhji2001but they've also shown that so far no God has had any cc removed whilst Zeus has had cc added to his kit. Until they move away from being so relient on hard cc as a mechanic they will always need to offer beads. Although they give beads to everyone they also increased its respawn timer so it's not as broken as a lot of people claim it is.

It's useless on tanks

@@Jimmy-jx1pf It’s not useless on tanks. Even a tank needs to beads a Fenrir ult or Loki stun. Not to survive but to keep peeling for your squishies. You can’t CC the jungler and stop them from killing your ADC if you’re also stunned.

Beads already is an active item in the magical defense section isnt it?

​@@AceOniFlyer only having beads is absolutely terrible for tanks. Idk where you think beads is better for a front line god with no way to initiate

​@@sylol200 only beads? Everybidx has beads and they can build active items for other relic effects. U do not have beada only.

Predecessor all day!

So you want people to have 2 blinks at the same time?

@@Schelmi36 if hirez took the gloves off, they'd make the relic blink a combat blink, but for some reason they stapled it to an item. The item only gives you some health and cooldown, so it wastes an entire item slot when we could just keep two relics and have a more complete build

@@PrimeCookieGuy well it is still a combat blink, and there are a lot of people who'd rather have active items then relics, because it opens up A LOT more variety

It didn't work out well due to bad players. Having people building med on hunters and mages pretty much just signed your team up for a loss. The really bad matchmaking bringing in low tier players to normal queues is to blame for that one.

@@slaayerr1 And you think adding skills/actives to items is going to make them better / game easier? It only makes it 100x worse and pushes players away from the game. They are trying to bring in the dota and league crowd and that will not happen.

@Sins13 nope not at all. I think the smite crowd is still going to fail to use it well. I'm just saying I'd rather see an item with stats on them for the active than someone having med on a damaged and gaining about 200 health end game lol. Either way you can't teach these players to build correctly

@@slaayerr1 Agreed, the neith buying med is a special type of player. But there will be 100x as many now that items have actives on them. It would be the same as having no relic is the point im trying to make. Because having more buttons isnt going to make the game better.

@Sins13 Oh, I 100% agree. I'm just saying I see the reason why they just forced beads and wards on every person but i also see how the game itself will create a lot more noobs to the same level of the "med neith" type with these new item changes. I already saw crit full strength anubis in the alpha 🤣

There was a blink item in the alpha

Beads is easily the best relic in smite 1 you are fried

every assasin should be forced with blink, would make the game a lot more fun if youre forced to be aggressive or just have a useless relic if youre scared to blink

In fact I am willing to bet they lose numbers because of the item skills. Turning this into dota or league isnt going to bring those players here, it will only push away smite players.

Yes, because they gods need to be reworked and recorded to work within the new engine. Smite 1 runs on Unreal Engine 3. Smite 2 runs on Unreal Engine 5. However, there were only 14 gods because this was an Alpha. The alpha next month will have 23 gods. They also plan on having a closed beta that is open 24/7 in July as long as everything goes well. That will likely have the 55 gods they already have prepared for Smite 2 if we are lucky. They have to rebuild the game from the ground up to fit with the engine while also reworking entire systems to fit with the new capabilities that the old engine didn't have. Which means having all 120+ gods available at launch isn't a priority. However, they already stated that once the game is ready for release, we would be getting a "new" God every 3 weeks except for when there is a completely new God ready to be released. So it wouldn't take too long to get all of the gods in the game and every gods with have minor to major changes to their kit as well. So, none of this is bad.

I promise you, an in combat blink is significantly better for survivability for squishy characters than beads is. Beads is simply a mickey relic used to save yourself from bad positioning. Instead of cleansing a Hun Batz ult, just see him in the map and know that he’s gonna try to blink ult you, and blink his blink. There’s your safety.

@@Anirudhji2001 you’re scenario is full of flaws but blink would be good too

@@melodiic_1724 eh I could’ve been more specific but it’s a RU-vid comments section, I’m not writing an essay

Problem with giving role-based differences is that it forces you to play a certain way. Who knows... maybe mid should start in solo and rotate to mid at 10 mins and people just havent realised it yet (or something like that).

Buddy that is the smite community. A large portion of smite players did not know how to build and play even with a thousand hours in the game. They never attempted to learn and would just fester. I knew 2 people that literally refused to build boots in any mode back when they were the staple first item for everyone. We still had mages and hunters building med first relic. They'd build zero pen. They'd position into the enemy team alone and cry to the team. Etc etc. The game has always had some really bad lower skill players and smite 2 will show that even more now that they've allowed people to build strength items on an intelligence God and get no benefit from it lol

combat blink was a thing and was the most busted thing

Me too lmfao. The smite subreddit is a cesspool of idiots though, everybody trying to justify free beads being a good thing, and the only reasoning they can give is, “but look what they can do if they have blink level 1.” It’s so funny because YOU COULD DO THE SAME DUMBASS. There’s just more options of aggression vs defensive tactics with blink, where beads forces you to just be defensive.

@@frition627everyone has combat blink in Predecessor and it’s fine

@@frition627 yes when there was other relics to help save you from dumb plays. In this game where there is only one relic I don’t think it would be broken.

bunch of the graphics are going to be refined and finished i imagine

I don't like when people say "I know it's an alpha but..." and then list something completely obvious that will be fixed during the alpha, and is expected to be that way in the alpha.

@@messedupperfect9367 me when the unfinished and buggy closed alpha of a game is unfinished and buggy

@@mira-zv1ug Literally. If an alpha wasn't buggy it wouldn't be much of an alpha.

We used to have a season where you started in lane then went for buffs so I think it's fine. Just feels like you can mess around in lane rather than staring at each other waiting for buffs to spawn lol

My thought is they are going to overhaul the map completely and this one was made smaller and fast-paced for quicker games and more testing of late game builds

@cade4118 this does make sense hadn't though about that.

nope

Yes, it is wired.. because it's an early Alpha and like a year away from being "finished" for sure there are things not finished yet... ...

@@farbenpracht i get that its just idk smitw 1 is the start right si shouldnt it only move forward from that point. Ofc ill give it time i want it to succeed smite is the only game ive ever played this long

yeah ur prob part of the problem buddy its an alpha relax

@@LimpurtFan6969 can't tell if you're ironically being toxic or lack self awareness

​@ThompsonBriar probably referencing that you are complaining about lane feeding when it's a new game that feels different for smite 1 players and probably a whole different world for the new players

@@slippery2322 I'm aware of that and I don't expect anyone to be good at the game. But I specifically said feeding lane and being toxic i.e. my teams 0-6 solo lane Bacchus you rock cancel that spamming everyone on the team with a 2 to 1 kd ratio for missing abilities or not killing his fed Bellona lane opponent 15 minutes into a match.

@@ThompsonBriar do you really think these toxic scums will change just because there is a new game?! They will be toxic when SMITE42 will be out..

How? All it means is less kill potential. Skill isn't being affected. Smite 2 beads has a very long cooldown. You still need to time your beads and not waste it. Players can hide and ambush now so warding is important. I really don't understand what skill is being lowered by everyone having beads and ward. You still need to play the game. Sometimes you see teams in smite 1 go all beads.

@@cybzer0560 it needs to be a limit of 5 per game, i heard theyre also lowering the amount of cc in the game. i think 95% of gods have a slow like chirons 2, why does chirons 2 have a slow

​@@imgonnacream limiting the beads would be devastating for the late game. Imagine getting quickly stunned into a one shot in the late game, unable to do something. So far the gods feel similar with the cc amount from smite 1, at least for hard cc, so beads are needed

No? It's not fun to not being able to fight back. Everyone still dies even if you have beads lmao.

I agree. Item actives just shouldnt be there IMO. That is them dropping smite and trying to be league or dota like you said.

true.. we had a really good, fun and responsive Relic system. idk why we had to change that.. 2 relics, getting second on 12 to respond to the enemies and upgrade them to stronger versions late game people say its now more diverse.. i doubt that .. if f.e. you want blink now you NEED a specific item .. if it does fit your build or does not

@@farbenpracht Correct, it wont really be that much more diverse. Item wise yes (crit zeus and stuff) but less effective slots if that makes sense. Also, it raises skill ceilings but will also raise the floor meaning way more people will be bad at the game. Myself included. I tried dota because a friend liked it. I hated it. Building pieces like exodia to get one item, items having extra skills. Its just not smite. Its not going to bring that crowd over in all honesty. Its only going to push smite people away.

How else will they save their dead game?

its because youre getting stomped, the games ive seen weak3n and warchi are 30k gold ahead lmao

@imgonnacream bro it's not that I'm getting stomped. Weeken and his buddies aren't stacked haha, massive oversight there buddy

Its because they are trying to make it league/dota. Item actives screams it. Much slower gold and ramping. This isnt smite anymore IMO.

That’s the cool part - they’re making a new game. They can lower the CC in the game across the board. I hear this complaint all the time even without the discussion of beads/blink. Maybe they should change it 😅

Beads should be active item

I’m fine with beads being in the game, but having it given for free is just silly. Beads should be on an active item and blink should be given for free. Combat blink too, because that’ll allow even squishies to have a level of survivability even through being damaged, as they typically need the beads level survivability. They can have that with blink.

@@DudeImFonz I agree Big Fonz, I’d love for them to lessen cc. Perhaps if we bot the feedback poll they’ll finally listen 😉

Didn't get ya

I felt the same when I started, after a month of pred I’ve adapted and can feel our team fights. Just takes time

I completely agree with this, the colors are less distinct and it creates a cluttery feeling in fights sometimes.

I played all weekend on ps5 zero issues lol

@@ziegfeld4131 it’s alright but the whole user interface and buttons has made it horrible to play - literally played 1 game and played smite 1 again

So you acknowledge it’s an alpha yet complain about things that are usually prevalent in alphas? Considering the game isn’t even close to polished or finished. Y’all just be talking, I swear 😂.

I wouldn't say a worse version but it seems way more like predecessor than smite. The graphics don't make things look distinct, so it feels all cluttery

@@shawnfromstatefarm8822 you are aware of the title of this short? Pros and cons of smite 2 ?

@quadriplegic2789 Yeah, a lot of abilities feel harder to hit. Bacchus leap,kuku ult for example. The way abilities look and feel was something the dev diaries reiterated numerous times,which is not the case across the board. This is a game thats supposed to be ready in 80 something days. Feels rushed. I want them to win as I love the game. Hopefully, they can put the cash injection to good use.

@@youtubeenthussiast328 We're in Alpha, the game is NOT meant to be ready in 80-something days. The July release date in Steam is just a random date they had to put to make the Alpha playable on Steam. 2025 is the target for Closed and Open Beta.

It's literally in CLOSED alpha. It's not supposed to look like a finished game. 90% of all images being used are placeholders, and the only thing the Alpha has is the absolute basic core and fundamentals for gameplay and functionality. Literally nothing else. Which is the point of such an early alpha. To give feedback in the very beginning stages of development for the most important part of the game!

@@ImmortalMarshmallow relax dude. Go outside. Mabye go get laid. Looks like it’ll never amount to smite but mabye it’ll improve. I still think it’s a silly business move. The player base isn’t big enough. It’ll split the already low player base into 40, 40 and the other 20 percent will leave due to waiting too long for ques. Guess we we will just wait and see.

@@jpatto3603wow you need help mentally lol