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SMITE: Celestial Legion Helm Nerf! What's The Best Physical Defense Item For Mages Now? 

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In recent SMITE patches Celestial Legion Helm received a nerf (Patch 6.2) while Dynasty Plate Helm received a buff (Patch 6.1). With those change, which ones is the better option for mages in most situations? How does Breastplate of Valor compare? What other options and aspects do we need to factor in?
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@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Background music is back tomorrow, just noticed it after rendering :)
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
@@mastersadchild9223 On what?
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
@@mastersadchild9223 Nice job on me making a comment? What are you trying to get to?
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Nah, it's "Thank you Kanye, very cool!"
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
No, I'd like to hear from you what I did a nice job on. I'm sure you can put it in a sentence.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Yeah you're right, fuck Kanye
@evilallensmithee
@evilallensmithee 5 лет назад
I disagree, you let minions bust the stacks like gods and it will go right back in the trash. You want an interesting item? Stretch the stack gains and losses. Receive 1 stack every second. Every time you receive physical damage you lose 1 stack received, or 5 stacks of you take physical damage from a god. Dynamic, useful for mobile and clever players characters but defeasible.
@toontastic25
@toontastic25 5 лет назад
It's Emperor not mountain. I'm not letting you pull a ostrich on us.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
I'm definitely gonna pull many more ostriches on you in the future and I love the reference.. but the item is really called Jade Mountain Helm. It's a Tier 2, for Jade Emp and Celestial!
@mathiasadderley2988
@mathiasadderley2988 5 лет назад
heyduke sloth I need some help on a situation I recently played a game with a Scylla and a hera who both fed by going 16 death and 17 death whereas I played my heart out and went 20 -8 my question is How do you deal with feeders
@TheWeltandmelt
@TheWeltandmelt 5 лет назад
I could see them making celestial legion helm loose stacks ever 3 hits from minions, kind of similar to kauldr.
@thomasouellette7091
@thomasouellette7091 5 лет назад
I’m tired of solo lane being nothing but King Arthur 😥
@deathknight6615
@deathknight6615 5 лет назад
10:20 Duke what was that
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Minion ate the basic
@TrueWodzu
@TrueWodzu 5 лет назад
Correct me if I am wrong, but you need one basic attack or ability to have these stacks removed, so why it is such a big deal?
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
That's not how it currently works. Watch the stacks at around 9:40 when Rat ganks. Every instance of physical damage only removes 1 stack. So you would need 5 basics to remove all stacks. There are some exceptions that count as multiple instances it seems, apparently Rat's acorn blast is one of them, but you can't remove all stacks at once. And you often avoid big initiation ults as well.
@TrueWodzu
@TrueWodzu 5 лет назад
@@DukeSloth Thanks Duke!
@danielmiranda3989
@danielmiranda3989 5 лет назад
Duke do you think they will ever make an item like Pestilence but you get physical instead of magical protection?
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Doubt it
@warriorprincessgaming617
@warriorprincessgaming617 5 лет назад
Keep up the good work ❤
@06jrz
@06jrz 5 лет назад
Bancrofts, celestial, void, has always been my core on AO jg since it's harder to pull off the full burst build/AA now with all the CC.
@kriegaone3658
@kriegaone3658 5 лет назад
No it isn't, get magi's cloak, and beads as one of your relics. Pen boots, bancrofts/soul gem, demonic, telkhines, magi's cloak, situational/damage item (e.g. tahuti, doom orb, divine, obsidian etc....)
@IrishBiteGirl
@IrishBiteGirl 5 лет назад
I started using Celestial in Assault when against full physical teams....A long long time ago, and once I realized how good it was... I transferred it over to every other game mode as well. Great starting item in Assault though btw, MP5... Defense... And cheap enough to buy a starting item with it to get a 90+ magic power start as well.
@haxkztasy
@haxkztasy 5 лет назад
and yet if you have 2 tanks, you still wanna get the aura items, so your whole team benefits of your starting T3 item. Celestial is a selfish tanky-power item, which you really dont want to build as a tank if you're in Assault.
@kriegaone3658
@kriegaone3658 5 лет назад
What? I've almost never seen celestial helm built in duel (in season 5 and 4), mostly just conquest. Breastplate is almost always picked up instead in duel.
@danielhilzinger6259
@danielhilzinger6259 5 лет назад
weird i have never seen this two items used in game
@Demonbane41276
@Demonbane41276 5 лет назад
For some reason when it comes to nerfing items or characters, I agree that it seems these companies don't actually know what the problems are. I sometimes wonder if they even play games and/or their own game for that matter. Each stat/value should have a gold piece price and that should determine the price of the item. That way if an item becomes popular it is probably the stat combination and not the price it self. If you want people to build different items make the "trash" stats more comparable (MP5/ Health regen). Wanting these stats to make more of an impact on the game, then make them better...i.e. cheaper magic/health regeneration stat/per gold piece value... make it worth it.
@xRagingxDemonx
@xRagingxDemonx 5 лет назад
There needs to be more hp5 on items. Most if not all that have health or lifesteal should have hp5. It's a stat only found on sov. And the glowing emerald tree. Also the combination of stats on certain items are crazy and mages have an answer for everything.
@burndabear595
@burndabear595 5 лет назад
Why! Celestial Legon Helm was always my go to cerberus item
@kopykat9310
@kopykat9310 5 лет назад
Out of curiosity if you could add a new item or item tree what would it be?
@BasedChadman
@BasedChadman 5 лет назад
Movement speed items for ability based warriors / assassins
@phinxlion
@phinxlion 5 лет назад
Good ol' fashion Fetalis. The mages equivalent is weaker, melee physicals get it anyway and mother of god do i Miss strafe queen Artemis; that and change Witchblade(attack speed slow aura item) back to a lifesteal item.
@h7oda793
@h7oda793 5 лет назад
@@BasedChadman Yup rip the old heart seeker.
@thephantom3487
@thephantom3487 5 лет назад
I dont play much conq but I do play duel and I think breastplate is better. But I will admit it works very well (in duel)
@measlyhorizon3886
@measlyhorizon3886 5 лет назад
What did you think of that surrender at 9:55? I personally hate surrendering because I personally have had many comeback wins but at the same time I have took L's that could have ended early. But if you surrender the moment we reach the 10 min mark with tower still up and my team surrenders, I have lost respect for all of them. (Yes this just happened to me)
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Yeah that was a bad surrender. But tbf the Nu Wa was really salty and playing poorly all game, she was literally the weak link of our team. So I'm not surprised. The fact that we still won proves that that surrender was wrong.
@haxkztasy
@haxkztasy 5 лет назад
atleast not a match where you're the frontline, go in and your team is literally sittin infront of your own tower #HappensToMeAlot
@koltenhr5051
@koltenhr5051 5 лет назад
You're in Croatia?
@velved2240
@velved2240 5 лет назад
Karlobag somewhere in eu anyway
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Yeah for 2 weeks
@joahnaut
@joahnaut 5 лет назад
And yet, you still play better then me.
@559ivanmonster
@559ivanmonster 5 лет назад
Duukeee slothhhh!!!!
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Hey, this is not WWE, you don't need to announce me like that :^)
@559ivanmonster
@559ivanmonster 5 лет назад
@@DukeSloth lol it always seems like they are having so much fun while announcing so i tried it and it was well worth it.
@jamescaine507
@jamescaine507 5 лет назад
Who cares about the gameplay shown? It's just something in the background and it's not like Duke is a pro player and uploads his best games...like damn
@generalgracious5919
@generalgracious5919 5 лет назад
Isn’t Ao Kuang just a better Thanatos? (Heals for more, can ESCAPE with an execute, invise, teleport, etc.)
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
No. Thana is way more earlygame focused and has way more multitarget-utility.
@generalgracious5919
@generalgracious5919 5 лет назад
Ok, good to know.
@Artec619
@Artec619 5 лет назад
Does he really heal for more? Don't know the numbers but i would've guessed Thana's healing is superior. Always talking about base healing ofc, not from items.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Thana's overall healing is most definitely superior anyways, because he can consistently heal with his 1. Though Ao's new passive is.. interesting.
@finter4644
@finter4644 5 лет назад
I feel like a close comparison to thanatos is actually camazotz. Heavy damage focus on 1 ranged ability, a lot of healing, and a cc/damage immune ult. Obviously very different, but comparable.
@markhohenbrink5230
@markhohenbrink5230 5 лет назад
When u r targeted by Achilles the whole game
@aegismalkav8057
@aegismalkav8057 5 лет назад
Lmao
@vthetrickster-5367
@vthetrickster-5367 5 лет назад
How about no defence (:
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Name checks out
@dragontyron
@dragontyron 5 лет назад
someone get me Gandalf, there's a foul demon that needs to be banished
@chaotyxz6500
@chaotyxz6500 5 лет назад
The gameplay isn't bad tbh. But nice job on the breakdown.
@omeganarcissus7315
@omeganarcissus7315 5 лет назад
3rd!ha!
@YAWNFILMZ
@YAWNFILMZ 5 лет назад
First yay lol
@nightmareno5375
@nightmareno5375 5 лет назад
This item is so broken every 2 seconds really? Trash players play zhong and build that first item and win cause of it
@neosadism3338
@neosadism3338 5 лет назад
gives himself credit for people starting to use celestial uhhh okay lol
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
Uhm, yes? I said it's *partially* my fault. A single video with 23k views on underrated items that I made goes in-depth on Celestial Legion Helm and I also have multiple other videos mentioning it as a very strong current item. It would be pretty naive to believe that roughly 20.000 people getting this item more on their radar than previously wouldn't have an impact on its popularity. I didn't say I was the main reason, more impactful than pros/SPL or anything like that.
@abaddontheslanderer7084
@abaddontheslanderer7084 5 лет назад
NeoSadism It’s ok wouldn’t be the first time
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 5 лет назад
@AbaddonTheSlanderer Name checks out, I guess.
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