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SMITE: Is The Morrigan GOOD or BAD God Design? 

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SMITE’s newest addition, the mage shapeshifter Morrigan brings some very unique mechanics and a lot of controversy over character design to the game. The opinions on the first Celtic goddess range from “absolute trash” to “best god in the game” and this video seeks to explose why people feel so different about her by outlining some of the pros and cons of The Morrigan’s design and how this character fits with the existing roster.
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@TheSmiles
@TheSmiles 7 лет назад
Her ultimate on console is so bad takes forever to pick the god you want 😂they need to rethink picking the god on console
@HazzyFcrazy
@HazzyFcrazy 7 лет назад
Da_Host L3GT Right and she does this Weird slowing down walk as you select
@barrywhelchel9005
@barrywhelchel9005 7 лет назад
Da_Host L3GT this definitely needs a fix. she is super fun to use but I feel handicapped as fuck when I try to ult unless I pick the God before the fight and r1.
@King0fSparta6
@King0fSparta6 7 лет назад
I think that one is more of a lack of being able to walk while in almost any kind of menu on console, which i think hi-rez should add in in some way
@ryana6233
@ryana6233 7 лет назад
I agree that auto walk would be perfect also when you ult the pictures of the abilities never load.
@scottbounds2084
@scottbounds2084 7 лет назад
THIS. The system to pick who to Ult as will legit kill you more in combat than save you. A patch is seriously needed
@tedesco7219
@tedesco7219 7 лет назад
Duke missed 4 Thor ults this game despite of not playing Thor.
@AceOfPeter
@AceOfPeter 7 лет назад
in spite of* or just despite despite is not followed by of
@tedesco7219
@tedesco7219 7 лет назад
AceOfPeter Hey... psst... Read description ok?
@AceOfPeter
@AceOfPeter 7 лет назад
Hey... psst... I did I'm just correcting the grammar
@tedesco7219
@tedesco7219 7 лет назад
AceOfPeter Hey...psst... correct Dukes grammar he told me what to write...
@AceOfPeter
@AceOfPeter 7 лет назад
Dude I don't care who made the mistake I'm just correcting it under your comment so that it's seen.
@BunLiker
@BunLiker 7 лет назад
I like the Morrigan, nobody else seems to.
@LOGISTICGAMERZ
@LOGISTICGAMERZ 7 лет назад
Bluelife022 I think her kit is well balanced. Especially her ult as in most matches there will be somebody who has snowballed pretty hard and Morrigans ult allows the team to have some equal ground during fights.
@suffy8396
@suffy8396 7 лет назад
I love Morrigan
@brad4058
@brad4058 7 лет назад
I like morrigan, too. But her ult is really what makes or breaks her. She really is dependent on the team and thats what sucks the most. She doesnt do nearly as much damage as any other squishy mage to hold on her own. She needs a damage buff and her ult needs a complete reworking to do something else besides copying other gods.
@VVhirl
@VVhirl 7 лет назад
My only issue with her REALLY is the weird lag time between the end of her ult and becoming morrigan again. I've died a number of times because my character basically stunned herself switching out.
@ziongamer6905
@ziongamer6905 7 лет назад
God, I've waited for this topic. Before I watch, I say she is good, just heavily focused on team composition. Her greatest downfall are her bugs, which could be fixed by giving her a detransformation similar to Fafnir's, except she is immune to everything for the second or two it takes to untransform? Anyone else have ideas, share please?
@FidelCattto
@FidelCattto 7 лет назад
Oh Incon getting double hit by serqet ult because of the detransformation was beautiful
@inakiarias7465
@inakiarias7465 7 лет назад
I play in console and if you are on the ultimate menu you move slower but faster to the corners, it feels very buggy, hope they fix it. I play with 150 ping and even then the 1 doesn't feel clunky for me so I guess that's just people crying. Her ult needs some changes, especially on console. What I consider should be done in general, is to totally remove the delay on transforming, it fits no purpose and really feels clunky, there is no reason to have a delay when trying to make a good play. And then, just make a detransform exactly as Fafnir, being vulnerable and a noticeable change, only that would make her a lot more comfortable for me. If you ask me, she's Ao Kuang's level pick/ban worthy.
@911meltdown2
@911meltdown2 7 лет назад
Iñaki Arias my biggest thing with her on console... lock the camera when we bring up the menu to choose the good to transform into.
@WingXCustom
@WingXCustom 7 лет назад
The prob is the escape with that. People would just wait on you with CC and Burst at the ready to bomb you back to the stone age as you come out of it. It only works with Fafnir because he's tanky and has a leap (therefore decent mobility to boot). While Morrigan is as squishy as a wet paper bag, and easily knocked out of her Invisible by essentially any attack. ON TOP of that, she then loses her movement speed bonus when it happens! x.x I wish they'd just let you turn into intangible smoke and move for the seconds in between the detransformations instead of punishing you with a stun and Ability/Relic activation delay.
@Astropeleki100volt
@Astropeleki100volt 7 лет назад
i rly dont consider her as op people always cry on new releases because they dont know how to counter their new kit.I realy liked the dea of a fafnir like ult (but without the transform-detransformation time) and it could match with her lore by having 3 transforms (like swk) that change only her 3rd (the 1st and 2nd would change visualy) but hi rez tends to nuke nice ideas (thats why there is still nox with her terible kit)
@OwldoesMC
@OwldoesMC 7 лет назад
Still better Thor ults than Weak3n
@dookiestain3591
@dookiestain3591 7 лет назад
Holy shit same
@danhou1278
@danhou1278 7 лет назад
I like this type of videos where you talk about gods and say things like pros and cons, the background music was really nice too, keep it going!
@xiii0722
@xiii0722 7 лет назад
Very actionpacked match DukeSloth, nice video in general! You gotta become more confident with those Thor ults though ;) Keep up the good work man !
@deion.
@deion. 7 лет назад
Finally hits a Thor ult at 10:08. :) Good video
@DarkClaymore555
@DarkClaymore555 7 лет назад
Morrigan is the type of god I've been hoping Smite to have ever since I started Smite back in the beta. Unlike most players, I like to play many different gods instead of just maining few. So I wanted a god which can just be all the gods in one slot. ;D I didn't expect that ever to actually happen due to the many balancing issues, so glad HiRez was ballsy enough to go through with this concept.
@Muskacycle
@Muskacycle 7 лет назад
were you cosplaying weak3n Thor in the background? Great video though
@nelsonlopez13nl
@nelsonlopez13nl 7 лет назад
Zero Sleep yeah watching the fail ults over and over was funny
@joshuarobinson7406
@joshuarobinson7406 7 лет назад
I love her. She is frustrating to play at times, but I do think it is good that her ult basically forces players to learn gods they are not comfortable with, thus, making you a bit more used to a pretty decent portion of the gods.
@lordvader619
@lordvader619 7 лет назад
I really like her. The thing that I really find bad besides her bugs, is the lack of synergy between her 1 and 2. With most of the gods having some sort of escape, you'll have to do some really risky plays. And even if you're setting up something (like making the enemy use their escape so your allies can catch them while in CD) most of the times is not worth it because you get CC'd or killed. Her 3 is really good, but still needs some tweaks. I've managed to several gods. You'll know the feeling if Kumba or Loki use their ults on your decoy.
@gunnarkoger2259
@gunnarkoger2259 7 лет назад
I don't think I've seen so many missed Thor ults
@joshdoe7288
@joshdoe7288 7 лет назад
She's been my new main since she came out. I like her and haven't had any bugs with her idk why I haven't I've seen some funny shit though
@FortunePayback
@FortunePayback 7 лет назад
I been thinking Bout this since her release as well. I'm still not 100% though. I think I can say I can agree with you, howvere I fell of with her rather quickly. She's fun, but she feels almost too unique to the point where it feels 'off' in some way. It's difficult to really describe. Also, haven't been around for a while and I'm glad to see you finally have an outro again! I gotta say, I really like it.
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 7 лет назад
Ya'll be thinking you're smart when you tell me I missed a lot of Thor ults like I wasn't the one editing the video and could've just cut them out if I cared. But only one of you was smart enough to actually read the description and count them. Also, let me know what also you wanna know about regarding season 4, now that the very basics are covered.
@bernardobarzottozomer5538
@bernardobarzottozomer5538 7 лет назад
DukeSloth Bracer of Undying seems interesting, but I don't know where it should be used. Could you help us with that?
@jayyashjoshi3388
@jayyashjoshi3388 7 лет назад
DukeSloth great video as always,can you make a season 4 tier list now that all the changes are available and also about the condition of the healers in meta
@henriquesousa3022
@henriquesousa3022 7 лет назад
DukeSloth Do you really think no one should build Rage right now? I think Rage is better than before, Now Rage can be a nice late game only critical item, Its good for Teamfights, Thanatos or Kali can pick as last item for example, Chars that wanna go kill after kill
@DukeSloth
@DukeSloth 7 лет назад
Will wait a bit with Bracer of Undoing I think, wanna test it more. Season 4 Tier list coming towards the end of the week, but it's not what you're expecting. Rage is crap, especially with Poisoned Star and Wind Demon being so good right now.
@bernardobarzottozomer5538
@bernardobarzottozomer5538 7 лет назад
Thanks for answering Duke!
@khailart8858
@khailart8858 7 лет назад
I love her design.
@Chickenchucker
@Chickenchucker 7 лет назад
Yay the outro song is back!
@ArcaneTricks
@ArcaneTricks 7 лет назад
Make Gods have a selected number for her ult. That way instead of mousing over to Thor just click his number.
@CapitalCrunch
@CapitalCrunch 7 лет назад
Finally! An Outro!
@RunIntoMyKnife
@RunIntoMyKnife 7 лет назад
Dukesloth you make good insightful content, keep it up bro.
@cb4559
@cb4559 7 лет назад
Nice Thor gameplay in the background. ( I am also and too lazy too count the missed Thor Ilya)
@turtlenator6249
@turtlenator6249 7 лет назад
Love playing the Morrigan, but she does have a lot of bugs that need to be worked on. I just have so much fun with her kit. Especially the ult. Haven't seen an ability this crazy in any other moba (correct me if I'm wrong) and I love it.
@MeM00SEY
@MeM00SEY 7 лет назад
Personally, I love playing morrigan, especially if you build poly, chronos pendant, soul reaver, eternal staff, and gem of isolation. All those combined with hitting her 2-1 combo with her three as an escape makes her have a lot of health and hit very hard w/ poly, it basically breaks her character. You 3 shot most gods with your abilities and poly, because the damage out put is just so high. Sure she has bugs, but to be honest, i only use her ult for loki or a artemis, because their damage output is also very high if built right. In short, as a character she is one of the best in smite if you learn how to play her.
@wizardly
@wizardly 7 лет назад
She is the most fun god I've ever played. I'm not even a huge fan of the ult. If the ult was different, I'd actually like her more.
@kieranmckenney4275
@kieranmckenney4275 7 лет назад
I like the bug where when you die during an ult transformation you cant respawn and cant do anything for the remainder of the game.
@miguelsaez8251
@miguelsaez8251 7 лет назад
I got her to mastery 10 and I get 10+ kills in most games. I only use her ult to secure gods getting away. Her first three abilities are amazing on their own, and the right Morrigan can carry any team to victory comfortably
@miguelsaez8251
@miguelsaez8251 7 лет назад
Also, I haven't noticed any bugs on her. They do need to work on her 1's delay, though
@FidelCattto
@FidelCattto 7 лет назад
I think the minion aggro is a bug as originally izanami was getting instantly taken out of stealth by minion aggro too and they eventually had to fix it. When it comes down to it though the morrigan is the most interesting god in smite and should take over the dos equis commercials
@jeremiahbell6129
@jeremiahbell6129 7 лет назад
Minion aggro has been mostly fixed with the Morrigan, but if you stealth while archers are attacking you, it's possible still for the archer arrows to reach you after you stealth, and you instantly get turned back.
@emwZEEK
@emwZEEK 7 лет назад
I really like her. On console the delay on deadly aspects doesnt matter much since its just 2 button clicks no holding or anything like that. Something i HATE is that the de transformation cancels the backing channelling. Her early game is also really bad, Its nearly impossible to 1v1 someone until you have like 4 items. She is not a god that can really carry a team like many other mages or hunters (unless you turn into them but its the longest cooldown in smite)
@michaelnankervis6195
@michaelnankervis6195 7 лет назад
Most entertaining bugs you have encountered with her. Or most frustrating. Mine was i de ulted after i used a janus and was going through my portal. Proceeded to fly high into the sky and disappear from the game. On my screen. On everyone else's screen I was stuck inside a wall.
@V4K4R14N
@V4K4R14N 7 лет назад
I've had a lot of problems with her since day one. As aforementioned; The bugs, and the delay on her 1 (which is also a really easy ability to miss/dodge) and overall she just feels clunky. Worst of all, since they have to revisit her every time they release a new god, she's going to continue to cause bugs/problems which will increase the delay on new gods. My solution: Let her 2 proc off her passive like originally intended, and scrap her current ult. Have her spawn those two AI clones for a short duration (like Bastet cats). One using her 1, the other using her 2. Let them proc off each other and your own abilities.
@deathgoldqwer
@deathgoldqwer 7 лет назад
We'll I personally enjoy this god (lvl IX ATM). I play her on console and I can truly say what makes makes me feel rough as playing with her (besides her glitches ofc) is her transformation from her ult. she has a issue where her abilities and relic delay. I can't seem to be able to use them until a moment later from transformation. I tend to initiate a fights a lot. the moment my initiation ends is when I run out of the ult. I can't do that if I don't have abilities. -_- plus it always seems like chucc is always waiting for me to run out of my ult so he can ult me. no beed, no agus, no (3) = dead The Morrigain.
@slothape
@slothape 7 лет назад
They could make her a new ult and still be a good release. Without the gimmick, but still good. It would also save them a ton of trouble long term.
@Amig186
@Amig186 7 лет назад
You know you're doing well when the enemy Morrigan decides to turn into you
@brad4058
@brad4058 7 лет назад
I like to use her decoy to remove Artemis vines.
@LavaTF2
@LavaTF2 7 лет назад
Ah man I've been waiting for this video for so long. And I know right? She is so surprisingly balanced
@MARIOWII1233
@MARIOWII1233 7 лет назад
I get her ult is alot of work for future gods but it will keep her constantly feeling fresh by being able to use a new gods kit alongside everyone else.
@Tf_is_revenge
@Tf_is_revenge 7 лет назад
I'm a rank 10 The Morrigan and I say she is more balanced than others like (Bastet). Another thing you can only play her in big game modes Joust is extremely hard to play her because you only have a choice of 5/4 gods unless they have another Morrigan. I also feel they need to fix first is the de aggro system for her because yeh it's cool you have a decoy but if someone who uses AOE attacks aka Freya or khumba and they target the decoy their still going to hit you. And yes she does have high damage but you have to be in their face like Duke said so overall I say she is quite balanced if you take everything into account.
@suffy8396
@suffy8396 7 лет назад
The best thing about the three is that Loki can use his ult on the decoy
@Sjiria
@Sjiria 7 лет назад
And Thana/Kali may get trolled too :)
@joshdoe7288
@joshdoe7288 7 лет назад
I really don't think her 1 is hard to use at all and most of her damage comes from using her 2 and then her 1. I really feel like people just haven figured her out still because they're to distracted by her Ult. Her Ult is nice but that is not all the God is
@FieryPoke99
@FieryPoke99 7 лет назад
They probably bogged down a bit of her regular kit to make up for the fact that her ultimate is super game changing. That tends to be how MOBAs like Smite are balanced. Character has a strong base 3 abilities? Give them a decent ult. Character has decent abilities? Give them a stronger ult to compensate.
@mattwalker8726
@mattwalker8726 7 лет назад
my main issue with Morrigan is that no matter how poorly the player performs/farms for the entirety of the match, as soon as they get ult off of cooldown, they have just as much power as whoever the highest performing player is. her kit is punishing for failure in the short term, but in the long term you practically cannot fail. thats the root of my frustration with morrigan. oh, and also magical loki. fuck magical loki. on the other hand... I really want to make a deathtrap squad on joust w/ 2 cabrakan ults and herc ult thrown in for maximum carnage. so i mean, I respect Morrigan's potential to meme.
@DIsturbios1234
@DIsturbios1234 7 лет назад
Her ult is good and the awkward delay of picking a god is somehow keeping it balanced for now, if it ever gets buffed though I fear what will happen in high level play. That being said, I feel that Morrigan is riding a thin line. Her basic kit (ult aside) is very clear and concise what she is meant to do but her ult leaves me unsure what to think at times. I love the idea of being able to literally deceive someone (something like can't do) but being able to use a second ares ultimate in a row? I don't know, it feels dirty. I honestly think she is a good design but risky and I hope Hirez is up for the challenge of balancing her. Plus its not like all the recent gods have been called 'bland' or 'uncreative'. This gives the smite devs a bit of an idea to see if they can go for riskier type kits and honestly, I say go for it. Let it slowly leak in at first but if the community as a whole is ready for more kits like this then I say let the floodgates open.
@Cam-qs5qp
@Cam-qs5qp 7 лет назад
The fact that duke missed every Thor ult triggered me the whole video
@antonioaceves1080
@antonioaceves1080 7 лет назад
Gaw Ter he is bad in general, mechanical and also look at his fucking build, he is such a smite smartass who doesnt even know how to play
@moonman5619
@moonman5619 7 лет назад
What do you mean he is bad mechanical? read the description , and what is wrong with his build? he as cd , to use the ult as often as possible , damage and pen for his combo , and poly to help finish off
@hmmmhm4918
@hmmmhm4918 7 лет назад
Aaahh Smite elitist. adorable
@castlekingside3487
@castlekingside3487 7 лет назад
Fooling thanatos into executing your decoy is fun, I once also stood still during his ultimate and he thought I was the decoy. The Morrigan is the best god with stealth ever in smite imo. She is fun to play and not extremely overpowered but her potential with the ultimate is endless, she is also the only god that really feels confusing to play against at times which is as it should be. It is true though that her 1 needs to be more fluid and her ult less buggy.
@wanderingshiren1325
@wanderingshiren1325 7 лет назад
I love her kit overall, however i find her ultimate very clunky and slow to use so you have to preemptively prepare in most situations, especially on consoles.
@NateDates
@NateDates 7 лет назад
Honestly I like The Morrigan the way she is, fix the bugs and I think she would be perfect- She's under Very Hard for a reason it takes a REALLY good player to go off with her, I am currently sitting at 471 kills to 321 Worshipers, Keep her the same fix the bugs, thats my opinion whats yours?
@henriquesousa3022
@henriquesousa3022 7 лет назад
1 thing i want to know, Why Cupid its not in the competitive scene? I really think Cupid Kit is amazing, 1 can be AOE Stun, Have a Nice damage if the ult is on full stack, And can isolate targets, He has a very nice sustain and heals for the team ( The heal is low, But now that every Healer is nerfed, maybe can be good ), The ultimate can make very good plays and secure people in place, I just don't know Why ;-; Its the escape considered bad? or Just better options? Rama and Jing Wei just dominate to hard on the ADC role, For the physical at least
@MostBever
@MostBever 7 лет назад
Can someone explain how he uses his keyboard if "A, W, R and space" is for the abilities?
@soundwavevr6164
@soundwavevr6164 7 лет назад
I wish "AUTO SKILLS" didn't disable when you play Morrigan, also why does it ask to upgrade separately when you do your Ultimate? The tooltips say that whatever abilities you upgrade transfer to the god selected for your ult. Why do I have to upgrade again after I ult?
@EmethMatthew
@EmethMatthew 7 лет назад
Ooh, interesting discussion concept!
@WingXCustom
@WingXCustom 7 лет назад
I'd say she's pretty clunky. They shouldn't have rushed. I wish they'd streamline her. The ultimate on console is so sloppy with the selection wheel being on the camera stick. And the delays on almost all of her abilities especially her ULT which pratically CC's/(Stun + Silence) you in-between her transformations. I generally use her ULT as an escape, since It's very lackluster. Also for a God with such a risky play style, her escape is terrible. Especially coming out of the delay in which it takes to activate abilities on her ult. Her escape is too easily counter-able in groups since she doesn't get a teleport like Ao. You're either pokes out of it immediately, or you wait too long and usually die trying to activate it safely while gods with huge radius abilities drop bombs and dot's on you, or in some cases a random minion knocks you out of it mid activation. Yay! I could deal with her 3 or 4 being lackluster, but not both. I can even deal with her 2 not doing full dmg with her comboing it with her 1, and the long telegraphed delay on her 1 for the reward. But the 3 and 4 need fixes. You get blown up trying to get out even with sufficient time and decent positioning due to all the delays and the fact that people think of her as a free kill due to her having the only easily counterable Invis in the game. Also her attack speed like Nike's i feel can be a little faster, it the other half of her kit is going to lack synergy.
@Jadizi
@Jadizi 7 лет назад
Wing X Custom I'm pretty sure they didn't rush.
@ragefacememeaholic5366
@ragefacememeaholic5366 7 лет назад
I find that the morrigan is really fun, one suggestion I have is build her tanky. My reason for saying this is because her abilities have terrible scaling, her abilities have only an 80% return rate on power. You can hit for 620 before protections with base damage alone so you want things that'll give her a decent amount of health and protections to keep her alive. I'm not saying buying damage is bad, I'm saying glass cannons builds on her are bad. News flash she has very little burst for a comparison other mages like scylla may have less scaling on one ability her being 75% she instead has a 90% scaling on her two, which is really good, and her ultimate has a 120% SCALING ON IT! Her passive also gives her innate magical power, Scylla is a glass cannon whereas The morrigan does significantly less damage. All things being considered, she has less damaging abilities. TANKY MORRIGAN ALL THE WAY!!!!
@Jinny-Wa
@Jinny-Wa 7 лет назад
Unique kit? Far from it in my opinion. Another god with recycled abilities and design fail ult (like you said, all the new gods, current bugs, meta changes on gods). Playstyle is unique yes. Like Susano has also unique playstyle, but his whole kit is recycled from other gods already. Also don't like how they rushed that Celtic event out with crap skins. Morrigan got some t2 skin with vp, Artemis got recolor with braid hair and Terra got some t2.5
@Jinny-Wa
@Jinny-Wa 7 лет назад
His 2 is Nemesis' 2 where slow is changed to pull. His 1 is Nemesis' 1 where 2 sprints are changed in to 2 aoe attacks + 1 sprint, but it works the same way. His ult is improved Hades ult with same mechanics except Hades does not get knocback and cant shoot it freely and has to channel it, one of the worsts ults in the game
@NotSilent_
@NotSilent_ 7 лет назад
Jin- oh my gosh you don't know how stupid you sound completely changing an ability a simple triangle slow to a pull have no relation his three is a teleport and his 1 is a three attack nothing like a nem dash which is 2 dashes his ult knocks up acts like a tornado sucks people in. If you want to say susano is a recycled version of nemesis and other abilities you need to play a lot more.
@NateDates
@NateDates 7 лет назад
Jin I personally dont agree with you at all The Morrigans kit is actually very unique ((not being sarcastic)) Her 1: Summons a triangle is pretty much Point Blank Range in front of her while stunning and doing damage, idk anyone who has that... Her 2: Line attack which isnt unique but what it does is, it allows all allies to do bonus damage upon next ability and explodes after the ability is prox, no one has that... Her 3: I will say is an upgraded Loki 1 so I'll give you that, lastly Her Ult: how in anyway shape or form her ult copied??? sure it has bugs but they'll fix like always- Overall be more open minded she is unique and fun to play
@johnmont6412
@johnmont6412 7 лет назад
Morrigan 2 is old Nox 2, just make it longer and faster remove the silence and add the allies thing, I'm the only one who notices that?
@tudorciubotaru3497
@tudorciubotaru3497 7 лет назад
Jin- I agree.Morrigan is the most boring and unoriginal character to date in smite.Looking like Awilix, with a projectile, a nerfed Wukong ult and the ability to transorm in any god... Such a disappointment for the introduction of a new pantheon...
@Julen14
@Julen14 7 лет назад
I agree with most of your points, but also have to add that she needs polishing in console, specially her ultimate's god selection. Btw, I think you didn't hit a single Thor ult during the match lol.
@lajahamamomo
@lajahamamomo 7 лет назад
DukeSloth missed [6] Thor ults this game despite of not playing Thor
@deathpyre42
@deathpyre42 7 лет назад
How about reducing the range on Morrigan's 2, but allowing it to proc via her aa passive, and changing her aa chain not to reset from her abilities?
@jeremiahbell6129
@jeremiahbell6129 7 лет назад
Her 2 needs to stay at its current range for minion clear. Also, it's the only real ranged attack in her kit (and it's soooo weak for poke unless your team procs it).
@deathpyre42
@deathpyre42 7 лет назад
Well, nerfing the damage on it wouldn't be a particularly good idea, the 3 is pretty fine so it shouldn't be touched, and the 1's already a high-risk skill. Which kind of leaves the 2's range as the only thing that can safely be nerfed to compensate for the substantial buff to her ability to proc the 2 consistently and make use of her passive.
@emwZEEK
@emwZEEK 7 лет назад
the duration is fine because of 2 reasons: 1) her stealth does not come with a dash or jump so as an escape its very trash 2) its a fragile stealth so any damage will instantly break it completely negating the duration if used anywhere near an enemy in combat. This also supports the claim that its a trash escape. It can be used well for escape purposes but its very hard to do so. Its just so easy to negate her 3 the moment that its cast that i believe it should have a good reward for getting it off IE duration. I have never once had the thought whether playing as her or against her than her 3 was unfair or even all that strong
@emwZEEK
@emwZEEK 7 лет назад
I have never seen her 1 do more than 700 damage including a soul reaver proc at level 20. thats about 70% as strong as a scylla crush with the same build so nothing crazy there. and no i dont believe you should be able to skip her wind up. its perfectly fine with a controller on normal cast in my experience. I also dont see the problem people have with the slight delay when you can load it up 5 seconds or so ahead of time. i would assume with a mouse on quick cast you just have to hold the button slightly longer than a normal ability. I dont necessarily believe making it an instant stun would be "OP" either but i dont think its a good idea.
@emwZEEK
@emwZEEK 7 лет назад
I am on console friend, still season 3 here. I can only tell you how she feels from my experience and her one feels great to use there. In theory her one should not feel all that different between mouse and controller unless hi rez did something funky with her and a mouse that i am unaware of. And again if you just go invis then load the aspects it is basically an instant cast stun with little warning as long as you are about 5 seconds away from stunning someone (which is like going invis from the edge of fire imps then walking to mid lane for a gank or from 1 lane to the other in clash). You just have to be able to plan ahead, its not a reactionary ability. There is nothing wrong with having a god have good engage potential but poor counter engage potential. I dont really think she needs to be able to use her 1 out of stealth, nor can you get that close to someone without taking major damage. Thats just a playstyle thing. Even with instant cast only an idiot would let you get that close for free. What i am trying to say here is that giving her an instant stun would not enable her to walk up and stun someone without the use of stealth. It would help her a bit on defense like you said preventing others from walking up (or blinking up) to her a little easier, but you could just pop stealth and reposition if someone tries that. Had no idea people would build new ethereal on her but havnt heard much about how good that item is yet. In my experience morrigan lacks just enough damage to be able to kill a squishy from full health with her 1-2 combo. maybe ethereal is enough to push it over the edge. And in that case i would say its probably still fine to make the change to being instant as she is still less elusive than loki and would most assuredly die after killing 1 person in most situations as she cant even fight her way out with basic attacks. That extremely high risk would keep her in check. buuuuuuuutttttttttttt after typing that i thought of the new combat blink, that might help her out a bit there but only once before going back to base and only extreme late game. On ah puch it doesnt matter if you can see him casting. if you are in his range you will get hit its not really dodgeable ( without a dash or leap). I just dont think speeding up her one is a big enough change to warrant nerfing anything else about her. And i dont understand why people dislike her delay so much because i personally dont feel it. If this sounds a little jumbled together forgive me its 3am here.
@ebrithil93
@ebrithil93 7 лет назад
you would think that after missing so many ults at some point you just got to think to yourself maybe thor isnt the way to go
@nodiggityakaagnamedhit-tha3274
it took me 3 ultimates to get use to her. shes a killer. pokey in the beginning but real deal late game. very good assassin mage and id like to see more hybrids like this in the future. p.s. hahaha loki is dead again.
@danielburgos3817
@danielburgos3817 7 лет назад
I'm kinda disappointed you didn't take the opportunity to make the joke that "Morgan had more bugs than fricken AMC!"
@henriquesousa3022
@henriquesousa3022 7 лет назад
Do you think Aphrodite can be a good pick in the competitive scene? She is the best Healer right now, And some new items can help a lot, I think i can see a Aphro in the Sup role Of course, With the Old meta, With Sup rotate all the time and 3 man mid, If Variety has a Aphro on him I think He can Win the SWC xD
@ConsumePollo
@ConsumePollo 7 лет назад
Every time I use her on console with her new skin her three sounds like Grover's pull and it's weird.
@manikin3095
@manikin3095 7 лет назад
4:40 Her 1 doesn't cancel the AA chain
@Epicsting
@Epicsting 7 лет назад
i wish she had more visable feed back on her basic atks i cant tell half the time if i am atking
@sailornaruto39
@sailornaruto39 7 лет назад
Well the Morrigan is a prominent figure in her pantheon so I guess it makes sense for her to be in smite too XD
@mr.roguec6335
@mr.roguec6335 7 лет назад
what I dont like about her: the ultimate. just imagine if she had her own ult, that would ve been cool
@taylorkoenig9720
@taylorkoenig9720 7 лет назад
Hi-Rez deserves credit for at least trying to create a god like this. I know other mobas have avoided this concept and apparently for good reason, but damn at least they tried right?
@McShizzle
@McShizzle 7 лет назад
good thing i don't play smite anymore
@jadenbatt3158
@jadenbatt3158 7 лет назад
well the gross thing about her 3 is that it completely counters a neith ult because the arrow will always go for the decoy no matter what
@Legionthecomrade
@Legionthecomrade 6 лет назад
I permanently died as Morrigan once.
@trnovsky33
@trnovsky33 7 лет назад
i think some of thes cons are simple for player which can deal too much damage as possible and survive. I realy do not know what thinking about this.
@davidkam4398
@davidkam4398 7 лет назад
so many apollos and thanas dived my decoy i love morrigan
@MrBuns-yi2hk
@MrBuns-yi2hk 7 лет назад
A bit of good and bad. Her ult is trash, but the rest of her kit is good.
@Thelightningman100
@Thelightningman100 7 лет назад
why do you think the ults bad?
@MrBuns-yi2hk
@MrBuns-yi2hk 7 лет назад
Toor 55 it is super buggy. Some abilities on transformed gods just don't work. Sometimes you just fall through the floor, and you can't really use her ult in the heat of a battle. Her ult also doesn't really synergies with the rest of her abilities.
@jimjim435
@jimjim435 7 лет назад
her ult is the best thing in her kit tf u smoking
@jeremiahbell6129
@jeremiahbell6129 7 лет назад
Bugs are one thing. Bugs can be fixed, and, even though Hi-Rez isn't the best at fixing bugs, they have been addressing some of the major issues with her, to the point that now when I play the Morrigan, I don't encounter any, really. Also, her ult doesn't need to have direct synergy with the rest of her abilities--she isn't much of a "combo" goddess. If you use her ult, it's to either exploit a weakness on the enemy team or to make up for weaknesses in your own team. 10 seconds of being any other god rocks! And if you have enough damage in her kit, after the 10 seconds are up, you can burst down one of the weakened opponents, and then 3 to get out of there.
@38crippler
@38crippler 7 лет назад
I feel I should point out you can invisibly walk behind people, stun, mark, turn into a tank, pop your own mark, cc them all, and survive because you're a tank or hell, get in the middle of them as like geb of sylv, ult em all, your team comes in, fight. you get jumped? change into someone with an escape and turn on them you get behind? change into someone who's ahead you wanna help someone across the map and follow someone with a global? be them, take the global. her ultimate is disgusting if you're really good and amazing in coordinated play, her base kit however I really like how balanceable it is her damage is high, but to get the most out of it she has to play a little bit risky if she's alone. her escapes are kinda low, but her ability to be sneaky and ambush people is great she has a freaking stun, with an animation that makes a clear sound so you can't appear out of nowhere and stun as easily to add some counterplay to her. basically I like how easy it is to balance her base kit since all of it comes with checks and balances that give the opponent a chance to survive unless they're a dip and refuse to build any defense whatsoever so she can just stun-poly-2 them.
@timebandit5183
@timebandit5183 7 лет назад
I don't really agree that she is as hard as you say she is, most of the gods in the game are difficult because it is hard to use your entire kit effectively and your entire kit most of the time won't kill ex. Camazots, Thanatos, Bastet, fenrir ect, where as with her you can just spam off the entire kit or atleast don't need to 100-0 with all your abilities because you have 2 fully built kits ready to kill and essentially can use 3 back to back. EDIT your entire kit won't kill with all those Assns unless you auto attack cancel.
@keinkanal7382
@keinkanal7382 7 лет назад
TimeBandit besides of thana and cama who have a high instant heal you still take out over 70% of their health with the 2 1 combo which effectively removes them from the fight and I didnt factor poly and soul reaver proc in.
@vegekusononi1943
@vegekusononi1943 7 лет назад
On quickcast for her Ult it doesn't see to work as it should like I preset the god I wanna transform then I should tap 4 and be that god instantly not taking me back to the select screen
@keinkanal7382
@keinkanal7382 7 лет назад
Vegekuson Gaming this
@Tf_is_revenge
@Tf_is_revenge 7 лет назад
Vegekuson Gaming it's supposed to you just have to press quickly
@ReformedThe
@ReformedThe 7 лет назад
May not receive an answer, but has kali come back on PC? been waiting forever...... Never liked her until a couple days before she was randomly romoved...... hahaha
@giovanniwalden8625
@giovanniwalden8625 7 лет назад
What is the music in the background?
@coach_mark_fink
@coach_mark_fink 7 лет назад
why not change her ult to only copy the ult of the other god and not the whole kit. than change the improve the Rest of her kit
@sibiris8474
@sibiris8474 7 лет назад
I have trouble ulting with her, the selection screen is really slowing me down and because of that she feels clunky, besides that I think shes a pretty easy god.
@upwiggins
@upwiggins 7 лет назад
sibiris a tip to help with that is that you have to memorize the select screen each game so you know exactly where each God is
@DrBigt
@DrBigt 7 лет назад
She could have been fun God but Hirez kinda killed her by releasing her as so broken and buggy that she kinda got that really bad stigma about her, much like Ravana did have for longest time when he was released.
@Krysteal13
@Krysteal13 7 лет назад
I like her but here is what i would like to get changed: 1.Fix the bugs please just please 2.Her 2 needs to be buffed shit is worthless until late game 3.Her 3 needs to give something its kind of bad (at the very least she should keep the movementspeed after she gets out of invis) 4.When ulting she should get the points the enemy has skilled its garbage that it takes your points.
@Krysteal13
@Krysteal13 7 лет назад
oh and i forgot the wind up on her 1 that shit takes so long its unusable in a teamfight.
@MrTelboy
@MrTelboy 7 лет назад
The only thing I dislike about her is her ultimate. Think its cheap/lazy and offers very little if any counter play.
@geoffreyperrin4347
@geoffreyperrin4347 7 лет назад
nice outro
@elblasian9602
@elblasian9602 7 лет назад
i think she should be able to trade places with her decoy
@bhellzeboss7541
@bhellzeboss7541 7 лет назад
wait i use her yesterday and her 2 extra damage proc on her passive
@dannybrez
@dannybrez 7 лет назад
played her yesterday and I died and my respawn timer kept resetting, i had to watch the rest of the game while being dead xD
@RsPlayback
@RsPlayback 7 лет назад
You forgot to mention that she is the best counter to feeding teammates lol
@ArginArgin
@ArginArgin 7 лет назад
I think she's going to be banned in leagues regardless what the other op gods are. 'Cause once she makes it through, if there are any other op gods in the play the opness will be twice as big. Imagine a Scylla mid in a team with Morrigan. 2 Scylla ults... or Thanatos or any carry. I like the god the way she is. However, for balanced leagues i think she needs a counter. Maybe another god or some of current gods that won't let her steal some of their abilities. Like if she transforms into Ra, she won't be able to heal but maintain dmg with Ra's 3. If it's Thanatos' ultimate, she won't execute but deal a low base dmg instead. This kinda thing.
@SweetKillerrx
@SweetKillerrx 7 лет назад
lol you missed like almost every thor ult, but except that good video
@wantedwarlock2039
@wantedwarlock2039 7 лет назад
Morrigan is perfectly designed for the archetype she inhabits. Unlike all the other Mages who are ALL the burst damage dealing zoners (Minus Mage ADCs and Assassins). No character should have that much crowd control and that much damage. It is unhealthy for a character to be that bloated.
@thelastdino8019
@thelastdino8019 7 лет назад
You lost O-o that comeback tho from the other team. She's a alright god wish she had a little more tho don't know how to explain it .
@WubbaChubDuh
@WubbaChubDuh 7 лет назад
They need to change her ult..... she is so buggy that they removed Kali from console
@Tf_is_revenge
@Tf_is_revenge 7 лет назад
Shadow Reapor wait what!?
@WubbaChubDuh
@WubbaChubDuh 7 лет назад
If Kali pick Morrigan and Morrigan changes to a different god then rio server
@iBasheveryone
@iBasheveryone 7 лет назад
But they patched that... you get updated with the bugged patch? lool xd
@WubbaChubDuh
@WubbaChubDuh 7 лет назад
iBasheveryone I am a Console player not PC player
@Tf_is_revenge
@Tf_is_revenge 7 лет назад
Shadow Reapor oh damn so wait they got rid of the character or the bug?
@NotSilent_
@NotSilent_ 7 лет назад
Does she really need to be "viable" for others, can't we just have a fun god. She turns into any of the 9 other people which is extremely fun. She takes a lot of skill but it's one of the coolest gods released in a while not counting the bugs
@gdawgs345gaming6
@gdawgs345gaming6 7 лет назад
I love the morrigan. she's amazing she's just extremely buggy
@jimmydude1123
@jimmydude1123 7 лет назад
Her ult is pretty lazy, imo. In regards to most original god in the game, its gotta be Janus.
@ramlethal1171
@ramlethal1171 7 лет назад
When the spear doesn't stun...
@MrFallenone
@MrFallenone 7 лет назад
Bad design imo. She just makes everything harder down the line
@h7oda793
@h7oda793 6 лет назад
Yeah fk her ult it is 4 abilities combined after 2 very strong damaging abilities she have
@giealcmso4770
@giealcmso4770 7 лет назад
it seems to me that Morrigan is better be a Melee god than a Ranged God
@00784865
@00784865 7 лет назад
The glitches are reall but i dont think she deserves a nerf.
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