SMT V - Beating Demi-Fiend in 2 Turns? (Hard) 

Oh man and I JUST came here from steam for this!! What a bummer. I guess modding is next.....

I made an improvement in the strategy for Vengeance! I used theses demons with the same build: Nuwa, Nahobino, Girimekhala, Lahmu, Loup-Garou. But I add a Rangda with Akashic Arts and safeguard. Turn order: TURN 1 -> Nuwa - Sacrificy Clay Nahobino - Impalers Glory Girimekhala - Impalers Animus Lahmu - Akashic Arts on enemy Girimekhala Nuwa - Sacrrifice Clay Nahobino - summon Loup-Garou Girimekhala - Luster Candy Loup-Garou - Impalers Animus Turn 2 -> Switch Nuwa for Rangda Pass all turns, So that Demi-Fiend can use Physical Attack on Rangda and lose his turns. Turn 3 -> Rangda - Akashic Arts on enemy Girimekhala Nahobino - Pass Girimekhala - Luster Candy Loup-Garou - OMAGATOKI: Adversity and use Figment Slash Nahobino - Figment Slash Girimekhala - Figment Slash Now you would need 1 more turn!

The agency is in the players hands and if they choose to not use cheese then they get to enjoy a challenge. likewise some people enjoy the theorycrafting of the 2 turn cheese kills

You can very easily cheese using the red star strategy like I did in the DDS fight and end it before the second gaea rage. Though you still have to go through the first gaea rage which is just an Rng fest still.

@@monadoboy1887 even that strat was hard as nails. In this case its meh

I mean, makes sense, being a Nahobino makes this protagonist canonically the most powerful of them all

Smt 5 is a joke of a game, you'd think it was a persona game for how easy it is- oh wait atlus is now sellimg their series to persona children, no wonder the new game is a brainless power fantasy even at the hardest difficulty

ah yes

I know this is obscenely late, but yes you can get his essence by defeating him multiple times.

Yea, if I could turn off Magatsuhi Wellspring, it’d be more scaling for Adversity. I don’t think it would make the difference, you’d still need Strength Balms/Incenses for the 1-Turn kill, but it’d have an effect

@@bainz Threshold for OTK is around 180 str so, it's doable without balm, but it takes more effort to get it without balm than with balm

I mean the idea is too just run a Peircing Magic Skill to get your DPS on Demi

there is one now, its pretty much the same impalers glory, adversity, crit stuff but with ice age instead of murakumo

Deus on RU-vid beat him solo and used a magic build.

@@nosignal2240 Its insane how it took so long

You need Cait Sith to die to refill the Magatsuhi gauge

All invested to Str, with some Vit balms along the way

DDS fight is amazing when you understand how it works, but it really is way better to battle without using excel and a calculator

Nuwa and Lahmu dying are what causes the Magatsuhi gauge to refill so quickly. The Safeguard passive skill prevents losing turns from Repel/etc

This.

Attack an Decrabia that cast Tetrakarn with a powerful Phys attack and you'll get taken to 1 HP (Assuming you have endure)

Oh, yeah I’m gonna update soon, but they nerfed the Magatsuhi gauge amount you get from self-KO from 30% to 15%

You need the Demons to die to refill the Magatsuhi gauge after expending it Turn 1

You gotta grind out the right essences

Essences + a *lot* of fusions

It's with the passive skill Safeguard

Yes, you can

There is nothing against stacking, the problem is finding a way to fill the meter twice (in this case, abusing repel and safeguard)

If doing the fight purely Legit with no Physical repel then it’s arguably debatable that he is on par with his DDS version. SMTV just has more options to utilize and customize your team compared to what DDS does and since DDS only has three party members in a battle

@@Plotpurotto Well if you can cheese a boss battle with the resources the game gives you then the battle is not really that hard unless you impose yourself some rules to give the boss some advantages. DDS Demi-Fiend, DDS2 Satan and even Elizabeth from P3FES can wreck you even if you go with all the resources the game gives you, they don´t need the player makes some rules to made their battle hard. They need to give them back the nuke rule if you try to use absorb/repel/block skills, with just that mechanic this bosses would be so much harder.

DDS guys and their skills are not so powerful as on smt v

@@robjoker3786 Satan can be killed in 2 turns too, you just need absurd luck. And Elizabeth is very very hard (I didn't beat her without save states yet, this will be a 2022 mission for me), but I think she is far from being hard like DDS DF. I searched a lot and I think there is no other jrpg boss close to be as hard as DDS DF

@@PuckishAngel oh yeah you can 2 turns Satan but the rng requiered is just insane, thats something that could never happen unless you use save states and even using them will take alot of time, DDS Demi Fiend and Elizabeth are just imposible to beat in few turns without cheats, my best record on Eli was 2 cycles.

there is a skill that stops you losing them

@@thanakoto2239 name

They have the passive skill Safeguard on her

Safeguard

@@primaltrainer1018 Safeguard.

The 2-Turn strategy actually works every time, as long as you hit with Figment Slash

Find the Girimehkala or Rangda near Asakusa, and hit yourself with a Phys move

Thank you

@ its only boring if youre the one watching, while playing you need to constantly keep up your game or else you just gameover and have to restart from the beginning with hardly any ways of cheesing, thats why its called a "super boss"