Тёмный

Snapdragon X Elite vs M3 Pro MBP - How is THIS Possible?! 

Max Tech
Подписаться 1,2 млн
Просмотров 163 тыс.
0% 0

Can this $1,400 Snapdragon X Elite laptop dethrone Apple's $2,000 M3 Pro 14" MBP?! Let's find out!
Surface Laptop 7 with X Elite chip ($1400) ➡ geni.us/LtjLsad
14" MacBook Pro with M3 Pro ($1700 Sale) ➡ geni.us/GJYD
Timestamps ⬇️
X Elite Surface Laptop 7 vs M3 Pro MacBook Pro - 00:00
Design Differences - 01:04
Speaker Comparison - 02:33
Webcam & Mic Comparison - 03:35
Display Differences - 04:33
SSD Speed Test - 07:06
Geekbench 6 CPU - 07:41
Speedometer 3.0 - 09:05
Figma Web Design - 09:28
3DMark Wild Life Extreme - 10:52
3DMark Steel Nomad Light - 11:28
Cinebench 2024 - 11:58
Thermal Performance - 14:14
Blender 4.1 BMW Render - 15:41
Lightroom Classic Photo Editing - 17:29
DaVinci Resolve Video Editing - 19:17
Battery Life Comparison - 23:28
Final Thoughts - 24:38
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Shop on Amazon ➡ geni.us/wB2mWqd
Shop on B&H ➡ bhpho.to/2kfoI34
Shop on Adorama ➡ bit.ly/2R7qezq
10% off unlimited yearly music licensing on Soundstripe (what I use for all my videos) use coupon code "Max" here: soundstripe.grsm.io/e/6lv
If you enjoy our content please consider supporting us on Patreon. Even $2 a month helps us make more and better content for you!
/ maxyuryev
~-~~-~~~-~~-~
PRIVACY POLICY and FULL DISCLOSURE:
°Max Tech is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com
°Max Tech is a participant in the B&H Photo Video affiliate program that provides an advertising commission if you purchase through our links.
°If you purchase something from our affiliate links will get a small commission with no extra cost to you. This makes it possible for us to make more videos. Thank you!
°We DO NOT collect, store, use, or share any data about you.
~-~~-~~~-~~-~

Наука

Опубликовано:

 

28 июн 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 1,2 тыс.   
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 4 дня назад
Note: The X Elite should be getting a GPU driver update soon, so get subscribed and get ready for more testing! Surface Laptop 7 with X Elite chip ($1400) ➡ geni.us/LtjLsad 14" MacBook Pro with M3 Pro ($1700 Sale) ➡ geni.us/GJYD
@inamulbhuyan
@inamulbhuyan 3 дня назад
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@xiyangyang1974
@xiyangyang1974 3 дня назад
Windows always needs driver updates 😂
@NissocoMC
@NissocoMC 3 дня назад
@@xiyangyang1974Macs also get driver updates with their OS updates
@ricarmig
@ricarmig 3 дня назад
Drivers drivers drivers it’s all this chip needs and what more people need to buy laptops based on it. On Apple, there was no other choice but here there are Intel and AMD competitive processors so it’s better Qualcomm and Microsoft to hurry up and release decent drivers
@litazo6574
@litazo6574 3 дня назад
again another clown video ' were we wrong' as always . how about take some weeks to test instead of 'were we wrong' as always
@kjellbeats
@kjellbeats 3 дня назад
conclusion: everybody wins because competition is always a great thing
@kingyogesh441
@kingyogesh441 3 дня назад
Qualcomm is competitor to amd
@sholmes_ttyy
@sholmes_ttyy 3 дня назад
Whenever apple wins, apple wins.Whenever apple loses and other company wins, Everyone wins 🤣 These apple fanboys
@fmax3000
@fmax3000 3 дня назад
@@sholmes_ttyyYou’re watching the history channel or Animal planet?! M3 8GB has beaten this junk in many aspects, the 16 should do more and still cheaper. The M3 Pro, the binned version has smoked it in every aspect. Not winning, smoking when it’s 3-6 times faster, quieter with better battery and efficiency. The GPU on the elite is a joke. SW compatibility and miserable Prism is a joke. Imagine the unbinned M3 Pro, lol. Or the Max. And the M4 is on the doors with much better graphics and Neural Engine! Advice: Watch the video again and again to grasp the facts. But this was highly expected.
@lesleyhaan116
@lesleyhaan116 3 дня назад
@@sholmes_ttyywhiteout Apple and the ex Apple engineers that started Nuvia Qualcomm would be nowhere without Nuvia there would be no X-Elite or should I say nuvia oryon with a different name
@kjellbeats
@kjellbeats 3 дня назад
@@sholmes_ttyy you're getting this wrong, I'm actually an android and windows user lol. also i don't really feel like windows won here, it just caught up to apple in the arm space.
@NMCloud355
@NMCloud355 3 дня назад
Are we going to ignore the fact that the 14 inch MBP has a 69.6 watt hour battery whereas the surface has 54 watt hour battery so efficiency isnt actually that much better on the MBP 14
@mozzinator
@mozzinator 3 дня назад
This!! He never stated the Huge Difference between Battery Sizes as well. and you adjust for the Battery Size Difference Xelite Efficiency is not that Far off
@yuyhero
@yuyhero 3 дня назад
no offense but when iPhone wins or slight lose the battery life test against Android phones with much larger batteries, did you jump out and say that iPhone has a smaller battery and better efficiency
@swapneelbehera260
@swapneelbehera260 3 дня назад
Maybe so but still there shouldn't be that big of a gap in graphics Qualcomm needs to up their igpu by least 3x .
@mrangles3402
@mrangles3402 3 дня назад
They chose to put a smaller battery and say UT compares to macbook. That's their choice
@mrbigberd
@mrbigberd 3 дня назад
Who cares? These aren’t in the same price or performance range to begin with.
@rnavedojr
@rnavedojr 3 дня назад
I will skip this generation. Much better than previous but still need the most important thing and that is developers support.
@arimill1045
@arimill1045 3 дня назад
same boat. Love the direction, lets just cut out that npu and spend a year focusing on compatibility
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
Yeah I think waiting for the X2 gives the platform time to catch up to these new chips plus I believe Qualcomm has already said the next gen will get a bigger focus on GPU performance
@swissheartydogs
@swissheartydogs 3 дня назад
Disagree. I bought M1 Mac mini, M1 MBAir in early 2021, to support this breakthrough and they are still effective. Hence will support Snapdragon Elite X by purchasing a Copilot+PC, either this Surface or the cost effective Yoga slim.
@segiraldovi
@segiraldovi 3 дня назад
@@swissheartydogs Honestly, before buying anything I want to see how Intel's Lunar'Lake is going to perform. If it is relatively close to the X Elite I will go for that.
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
@@segiraldovithat’s something i am interested in seeing as well. They’ve had some fairly bold claims
@teabag9050
@teabag9050 3 дня назад
A higher chassis temperature and a lower core temperature is actually a good thing, goes to show how well the cooling system is working in dissipating the heat
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 3 дня назад
yup. seems people dont understand basic thermo dynamics. lol
@WongJLJerome
@WongJLJerome 3 дня назад
Depends on what POV you are taking. I also wouldn't want the chassis to burn my hand.
@ashishpatel350
@ashishpatel350 3 дня назад
@@WongJLJerome yeah but I also don't want my motherboard to be cooked and burn out like on most Mac's
@Papa.G
@Papa.G 3 дня назад
This guy try.... Too hard to show lamOS m4 is far better than windows
@akshay-nr7xk
@akshay-nr7xk 3 дня назад
The thing about battery life is that the M3 pro has around 70Wh battery whereas the surface only has 54Wh battery combined with the fact that many of these applications are not yet optimised for the X Elite means there is a greater penalty for running emulation
@thebuddercweeper
@thebuddercweeper 3 дня назад
Yes the X Elite uses about the same amount of power as M3 Pro, at least when pushing it, but gets less performance. I believe in lighter loads with more apps open, the X Elite uses quite a bit more.
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
The problem with Surface devices has always been their relatively small batteries, which were very noticeable on their Intel devices. Shame they haven't upped them like other X Elite laptops. It of course, also means that if you do not look after them, they will need replacing much earlier than the MB Pro 14.
@SergioWolf843
@SergioWolf843 3 дня назад
But Apple still emulates Rosetta, so it’s not a valid Justification, they made a lot of fuss around the Chipset compared even to the M4, and in fact it doesn’t beat the base M3.
@thebuddercweeper
@thebuddercweeper 3 дня назад
​@@SergioWolf843 I'm not one to make excuses for Qualcomm/Microsoft, but the vast majority of Mac apps have Apple silicon support, vs barely any having ARM support on Windows at this point, so emulation will be in use more often. That being said, that fact in itself is a downside for the time being. The X Elite uses as much power as M3 Pro, and like you say, often doesn't even beat the last generation M3. A fair comparison would be against the M4 MacBook Pro when it releases later this year, which will be even more powerful than the binned M3 Pro, and, well you saw the results of that comparison.
@jessea3165
@jessea3165 3 дня назад
@SergioWolf843 and Qualcomms graphics is based on a sdx, apple uses metal. You can't even run the m3 graphics through opencl benchmarks. That's not a bad thing. It just means that software that uses opencl needs to be optimized or it won't run on a macbook. It's basically the same issues apple had with the m1. Also, there are two emulation layers, one for the cpu process and a seprate one for the gpu process. He was also wrong, davanci resolve is sort of optimized. It's still in Beta version.
@davosworks
@davosworks 3 дня назад
But this is not MBP competitor, Surface Laptop Studio is macbook pro competitor. This Surface is Macbook Air competitor
@jamaharon
@jamaharon 2 дня назад
but they don't have it yet and rush to make videos
@JohnCross-rz5uq
@JohnCross-rz5uq 2 дня назад
And the Surface have that lovely tapered design that Mac abandoned !
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
A base spec M3 air is cheaper, has passive cooling, has fewer cores, the list goes on The only reason MS and others compare to an Air chassis M3 is because it's the only way to make their X-Elite SoC's look good
@jamaharon
@jamaharon День назад
@@scod3908 Base M3 Air comes with half the SSD and RAM. If you add the 400$ upgrades it will be a little more expensive.
@scod3908
@scod3908 День назад
@@jamaharon it's an Air. It's for web browsing and office documents. 8GB doesn't give much headroom but 16GB is overkill for a fan-less passively cooled device. The M4 will be base 12GB from what we've seen with the M4 in iPad The Surface sits between the Air and the Pro models. It's overbuilt for browsing/documents but doesn't hold up to the GPU tasks required for professional use That explains why MS have priced it in between the two and switched to base 16GB (previous to this release they were on par with macbooks $/GB between the two models)
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 3 дня назад
for a $600 diff, you would hope the MBP would destroy the Surface
@potsbaker
@potsbaker 3 дня назад
600 isn’t that much considering Apple Tax
@scb2scb2
@scb2scb2 3 дня назад
@@potsbaker Indeed apple users know they pay more but you also see in many small or big ways its better. How much $ for each feature is very personal. The user base really doesn't overlap much no apple user would spring to windows if its little worse in value and not many windows users would jump anymore if anything these new arm machines windows machines are more than good enough to keep many/most people on windows.
@fmax3000
@fmax3000 3 дня назад
It’s 1700 discounted so the difference is 300, and it did smoke it in every area 3-6 times faster with less fan noise and better battery, unless you were watching another channel!!!
@Techno_Rama
@Techno_Rama 3 дня назад
its is $300 diff on Amazon right now. so seems like a reasonable deal to me unless want windows
@jessea3165
@jessea3165 3 дня назад
​@@fmax3000 yes, but the xelite isn't a direct competitor to the MacBook Pro. That's like like comparing a Nvidia rtx 4090 to the graphics iand rtx 4090 a 24 core thread rippe to a m3. The x1e-84 is the direct competitor to the 10 core Macbook Air. People get confused, because the xelite has 12 cores and this is a fundamental misunderstanding on how CPu's function. Every Manufacture uses different Cores, more cores doesn't mean more performance unless you are comparing cores within the same architecture. The Google Chromebook has 14 cores, and no sane person thinks for a second that a chromebook competes with the M3 pro just because it has 14 cores. I'm a video editor and I wouldn't by a xelie laptop, but I also wouldn't buy a Macbook air or macbook pro base model. because neither are powerful enough to handle the demands of professional video editing.this is just such a bizarre comparison. but outside of a professional creative environment. either a xelite or m3 air is more than enough for most people. though, none come close to a macbooks build quality.
@joetheboy04
@joetheboy04 3 дня назад
1. Many of the graph labels and proportions are wrong. 2. No mention of the HUGE battery size difference. I'm a Mac user but I love the competition. It's good for all of us.
@tkklein
@tkklein 2 дня назад
true
@atomicgiraffe250
@atomicgiraffe250 День назад
The last point is so key. No consumer should be rooting for a company to monopolize a sector. I root for both Apple and MSFT to succeed so that we the consumers have most possible choices across all price ranges. Rooting for one company to win is rooting for money to come out of your wallet.
@justinlikesme19
@justinlikesme19 День назад
Well 1st mbp win this has a huge battery life plus the optimized application and updates and longevity.. don’t expect that on surface 🤦‍♂️
@mateojosephg.9262
@mateojosephg.9262 3 дня назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1010">16:50</a>. Your graph is so wrong there on the M3 Pro (CPU only). How come it was almost as short 21 secs. of the 1st machine when it is half of X Elite's total time?
@BilTekinYT
@BilTekinYT 3 дня назад
Great catch. The graph is wrong.
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 дня назад
Unfortunately this was an Export glitch that happened. We've been having some issues with some of our plugins.
@jedidazed3390
@jedidazed3390 3 дня назад
@@MaxTechOfficial unfortunately you guys suck at quality control. This isnt the first "glitch" on your videos that couldve easily been fixed by reviewing before upload
@parjau4554
@parjau4554 3 дня назад
@@MaxTechOfficial There were a few issues with the horizontal bar charts on this video (an issue which you have always seemed to have had to varying degrees). It doesn't bother me too much but it does some people so maybe you ought to institute some sort of double checks on those in particular before final release. It is a pity as all other aspects of your videos are very professional.
@ferrellogic
@ferrellogic 3 дня назад
it's okay
@henriquemiguel95
@henriquemiguel95 3 дня назад
For the average user, such as me, the Snapdragon is more than enough. I see that youtubers usually do heavy testing but the vast majority of user are basic and average which means we don't need a Macbook
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 3 дня назад
But for light task even the M1 Macbook is enough, which is cost half of the X Elite.
@Troll_Master_911
@Troll_Master_911 3 дня назад
For average users, $200-$ 300 Intel Pentium-equipped laptops are enough. They don't have to waste money on xElite sh**. Lol 😆
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 3 дня назад
For GPU task macbook is better, since M3 onwards graphics is better, previous mac have terrible graphics, for CPU tasks, X elite is a champ, with great, CPU, more RAM, more SSD, for much cheaper . Next gen Xelite will have 2.5X minimum GPU improvement to stay in competition with macbook. with almost same cost the next gen will be amazzing. as arm chips are small, manufacturing thic chip is cheaper even though they are on smaller node.
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
@@vmafarah9473 Qualcomm only just managed to get the first gen chips out on the market, they most likely won't be updated for 1-2 years Apple already has the M4 in the iPad and it is expected to be in the MBPro later this year. X-Elite already falling behind, but hopefully the 16GB base memory specs give Apple the kick up the @$$ they deserve to ditch the 8GB base spec
@willy7968
@willy7968 3 дня назад
Nice comparison. The Davinci Resolve you used for Windows is a beta version. I wish I can get the footage to know how it will perform on my custom gaming PC
@MoChuang343
@MoChuang343 3 дня назад
Yeah I feel like fully optimized is a bit of an exaggeration
@akin242002
@akin242002 3 дня назад
But with those GPU scores, it wouldn't beat M3 Pro Macbook Pro anyway. At best, it would be slightly better scores.
@willy7968
@willy7968 3 дня назад
@@akin242002 not when the software has been optimized
@NeWinThowai-oi3uv
@NeWinThowai-oi3uv 3 дня назад
It's a bullshit he spew out. Davinci resolve that he's using is Free and Beta version. Only studio version has GPU support. This version is not using GPU at all. And the developers need to work on optimizing it. ​@@MoChuang343
@TheosTechTips
@TheosTechTips 3 дня назад
@@willy7968 It was like 4x faster! It wouldn't beat the m3 pro anyways. Plus, it's better then the emulation one.
@XInfinity2024
@XInfinity2024 3 дня назад
Good video. Thank you for adding the video editing part into your video that I requested. I am surprised how bad the ARM Windows machine did. I thought it would have done better. At the end of the day these videos are a win win for the consumer because more information to help them decided what one they want to go with is always a good thing.
@systemBuilder
@systemBuilder 3 дня назад
The problem is that Qualcomm is not selling ANY of their high-end chips which boost single-core speeds by 20% and have 20% more GPU power. So every benchmark looks bad because they made a huge marketing mistake by releasing 5 different chips 4 of which are "X Elite" and this is the 3rd-place chip, benchmarked here ... But yes, I am surprised the battery life is only about 10-15% better than Intel. Also, Qualcomm is using 4nm chips whereas Apple is using 3nm chips so Apple is WAY MORE POWER EFFICIENT but bloody costly!
@Alex-mq3nz
@Alex-mq3nz 2 дня назад
Snapdragon looks pretty good, but macbook is still the best choice
@somnambulist6636
@somnambulist6636 2 дня назад
For a mac user ... Cause you have one option literally
@SuperMachead1
@SuperMachead1 3 дня назад
I’m going to cut the surface some slack especially in blender and da Vinci…because things will get better for them from software updates….but by that time the m4 macs will be out and xelite will be behind again….i think it’s time to stop comparing them to apple because most people are one side or the other….but let’s compare the xelite to other windows laptops….they might not get the battery life….but I think most people just keep laptops plugged in most of the time…and see if a $750 windows laptop can beat or match these elitex …in other words are you getting anything for twice the price…except more battery ?
@antaholics
@antaholics 3 дня назад
weight and mobility are also a really important factor to consider if you're comparing to full power laptops
@SuperMachead1
@SuperMachead1 3 дня назад
@@antaholics these will never be full power laptops….these are ultra books …if you want to do serious 3d work or 8k video editing or gaming…..these aren’t the laptops for that 🤓
@willmannering
@willmannering 3 дня назад
Nah fam, performance and battery life matter more to me than the OS. For many of us all that matters is that our professional applications work best with great battery life, whichever laptop does that is the one I buy, and currently that obviously means mac. I'd prefer to use Windows but performance and efficiency are more important to me.
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
@@antaholics ~0.5lb / ~230g weight difference is negligible, especially when you consider the larger battery capacity!
@churchofmarcus
@churchofmarcus День назад
I don't have any loyalties when it comes to laptop brands. I like the way the Surface feels to use. I also like MacBooks, but they don't have touch screens. The Snapdragon Surface is almost perfect, but it would actually be perfect if I could get a touchscreen MacBook instead. But I can't, so I got the thing that checked the most boxes.
@mileswurster2035
@mileswurster2035 3 дня назад
This seems like a better comparison based on the processed cores (since the Snapdragon doesn’t have any efficiency cores).
@josephle2381
@josephle2381 3 дня назад
Surface is a mba competitor😭🤦‍♂️
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
@@josephle2381 BS, it's more expensive, has more cores, has active cooling, but you only want to punch down because comparing to the MBPro with similar specs makes the flagship X-Elite look mediocre?
@MatthewDuplissis
@MatthewDuplissis 3 дня назад
weird how with macbooks, the cut down chip is referred to as binned... with CPUs and GPUs, being binned usually means it is a superior, fully enabled version.
@SintaxBSD
@SintaxBSD 3 дня назад
it is weird he is saying binned at all lol
@Scrivlings
@Scrivlings 3 дня назад
Everything in the apple world is the superior version. They removed cores to make it superior at using less power. They're very good at the doublespeak over there.
@ALmaN11223344
@ALmaN11223344 2 дня назад
No, not exactly. Binned down is a term that has been consistently used, it refers to the process of binning in general which is primarily used to get useful products out of silicon with defects. Binning up only became a thing in recent years, with i7 3000 it was all bin downs from their HEDT stuff down to the lowly i3s but now they bin specific 13900s as able to clock 100-200MHz higher and call them 13900ks instead. That used to be referred to as the silicon lottery.
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
A "bin" is usually a storage tub, not a "rubbish bin"; "binned" just refers to a unit which has been sorted into a certain bin/tub based on specs It seems to be used to specify a chip is different from the standard version (ie, it has been sorted or "binned" separately to the standard product) ie, "binned" is not necessarily synonymous with "better" or "worse", more-so "different"
@jakub7777
@jakub7777 3 дня назад
Please give the graphs a little bit more love, there is so many graphic erorrs in this video that it looks like old LTT reviews 😢
@wolf-dieterschulz-engelke8598
@wolf-dieterschulz-engelke8598 3 дня назад
yep, but only till the M4 Air arrives
@Leroez09
@Leroez09 3 дня назад
I will say it will take time for Davinci to truly be optimized for the new spapdragon chips. I have an M1 MacBook Pro and I remember when they first optimized it and I was like wow this is pretty good and then like a year later they released a new update claiming they optimized it even more and that it was now 3x faster, and guess what….. it actually was a lot faster when it came to exports, I had a video, I made for my school, that was over an hour long and originally it took about 50 minutes to export, after the update it did it in 25 minutes. So I am hopeful that something similar might happen with these knew chips
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
Maybe in 1yr time they will have fixed most of the launch issues, by which time you'll be comparing it to the M4 SoC?
@RackaApps
@RackaApps 3 дня назад
nice to see that you finally used the Figma desktop app on Windows and not the browser like you did in the previous video. You can clearly see that there's a noticeable difference in the performance compared to the previous video
@axlrose357
@axlrose357 3 дня назад
Do you have a chance to play with Dell XPS? Would like to know how it compares to other Snapdragon notebooks.
@Renverse64
@Renverse64 3 дня назад
lol that chart at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="537">8:57</a>
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 дня назад
Unfortunately this was an Export glitch that happened. We've been having some issues with some of our plugins. I swear thats not what it looked like when we finished the project 😳
@Controversial_But_True
@Controversial_But_True 3 дня назад
​@@MaxTechOfficialA double check is appreciated as you are influencing thousands of people regarding a relatively new kind of machine (I know there have been some arm based laptops before). As they say, first impressions are the last impressions
@kielvostro
@kielvostro 3 дня назад
@@Controversial_But_True You didn't understand his comment.
@yewo.m
@yewo.m 2 дня назад
16:50 as well
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 2 дня назад
@@kielvostro He should have double checked by watching the final video before uploading it
@ricardonogueira6473
@ricardonogueira6473 3 дня назад
Surface doesn't have an OLED panel, what a bummer. 😔
@kjellbeats
@kjellbeats 3 дня назад
at least it costs 600 dollars less lol
@DarkPa1adin
@DarkPa1adin 3 дня назад
Pro 11 top SoC model has
@rishinarang9966
@rishinarang9966 3 дня назад
600 dollars less and none of the macs have one either.
@mrdinosaurproductions9507
@mrdinosaurproductions9507 3 дня назад
MacBooks don’t either, pros have mini led
@GreatOne0815
@GreatOne0815 3 дня назад
Maybe they should compare the 2000$ Macbook Pro to a 2000$ Snapdragon Laptop.
@Ovsdrak
@Ovsdrak 3 дня назад
Hey Max, do you know if it’s safe to use my MBP always plugged in ? The thing is that the battery only lasts for 4-5 hours for my daily tasks. (And it’s not due to the age of computer as it is new ) I know it’s because of all the stuff I have running. And question two, am I right that laptops shouldn’t be turned off to continue working next day?
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
Have it stop charging between 50-80% which will maintain a healthy battery longer.
@williammaverick
@williammaverick 3 дня назад
Laptops like Hp, Dell and Lenovo have a setting in the BIOS that mitigates the damage on the battery when it it always being charged when the device is plugged in. The basic principle there is that it limits the charging threshold to around 50-80% max depending how long and frequent you keep the laptop plugged. My HP laptop of 3 years still has about 80% of its original battery life even after using it plugged in most of the time.
@goatslayer85
@goatslayer85 3 дня назад
Is there an aftermarket 2230 nvme we can upgrade the FL7 to match those write speeds?
@moonmode3232
@moonmode3232 3 дня назад
Snapdragon CPU initially designed for servers gets owned by the MB pro. If anyone’s talking about fairness, let’s start there to those who are crying this isn’t a fare fight. It goes to show you how much experience Apple has at CPU design and hardware, that the top industry companies haven’t been able to compete just yet even years after the M1 was considered a massive success.
@flolin8766
@flolin8766 3 дня назад
Are you aware that the Elite X was designed by previous Apple engineers, that were working on the original Apple Silicon M1 deisgn? I think the issue is, it was launched as a competitor to the M2 but couldn't be released in time. Now it has a hard time keeping up with M3/M4.
@ALmaN11223344
@ALmaN11223344 2 дня назад
@@flolin8766 "Has a hard time keeping up" is a generous way to put it, the M4 iPad has 3 less cores and is entirely passively cooled yet scores within spitting distance of the 80w X Elite. I call that eating Qualcomms lunch, they should've gone back to the drawing board when they realized it was this bad. The M4 claps the SDX on efficiency.
@florriii222
@florriii222 2 дня назад
@@ALmaN11223344 Only the 10 core variant can keep up with Elite X in multicore. Apple had exclusive access to TSMCs newest manufacturing process, wait until the other vendors can use it too. It's a first generation product and I really like to see the competition.
@parkay8616
@parkay8616 3 дня назад
Hi, can you please compare the X Elite to the Surface Pro 9 or Laptop 5 just to compare the Surface to the previous Intel counterparts which would be more comparable. 🙏🙏
@pawel_stocki
@pawel_stocki 3 дня назад
Thanks for comparing Resolve's playback using noise reduction, I will be grateful if you do this test more often.
@AdityaKumar2128
@AdityaKumar2128 3 дня назад
Conclusion : GPUs in these X Elite Chips is pretty slow compared to Macs
@ehtasam2080
@ehtasam2080 3 дня назад
It's on par with iris xe 96 Way slower than meteor lake arc and hawk point 780m. Strix point 890m is coming in few weeks with massive improvements. Qualcomm should be worried heavily.
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
@@ehtasam2080why? This device isn’t targeted at a user who needs more than basic gpu processing. There is a reason the surface and these snapdragon machines are mostly aligned with the M3 MacBook Air .
@Jabid21
@Jabid21 3 дня назад
@@Kyt2024 the M3 Air is $1099 before discounts. Snapdragon PCs are priced more than that. They need to be lower to be competitive.
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
@GarrusVakarian-to2uh most people who buy a MacBook Air don’t need it for those things. Most people are doing basic computing which is what I was alluding to. Media consumption, internet browsing, productivity. These machines will do those 3 things very very well and don’t require you to change operating systems. Even light renders and photo editing would be fine
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
@@Jabid21 no one should buy the base MacBook Air, so disagree somewhat.
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 3 дня назад
I think Windows apps have to be specifically written for the X Elite SoC's hardware registers to really get decent performance.
@Spectranox
@Spectranox 3 дня назад
That goes both ways, the Surfaces and the MacBooks both used to use Intel x86 CPUs and both Windows and macOS had to be updated to support ARM CPUs. Therefore this shows that for now Apple is better at doing ARM than Microsoft and Qualcomm, but who's surprised considering Apple's 4+ years of experience on that front? Any app for any platform needs to be shipped for ARM to support ARM, macOS just appears to do it better because developers have had much more time to port their apps. Give it a couple years and we may see serious competition from the not-Apple side.
@carlosk8103
@carlosk8103 3 дня назад
Kinda it's true that would give it best performance. but other reviewers have said the performance penalty for non native apps is quite low compared to in the past for these new chips. Only 10-15% on average..
@kaptnwelpe5322
@kaptnwelpe5322 3 дня назад
What are you benchmarking? Looks like the SSDs - which can be upgraded on the Surface.
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
I have seen the 1TB Surface Laptop have a similar speed(s) so MS may be restricting bandwidth or performance of SSDs. So adding another SSD may just waste your money.
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 2 дня назад
@@ahaimes6320 Was it a 1TB version of the same SSD or a different one that should be faster?
@MoChuang343
@MoChuang343 3 дня назад
How do the fans on X Elite laptops compare with AMD laptops? I have a Ryzen 6800HS and the fans don’t ramp up nearly as much as my old i7-7500U. Are the X Elite’s much better than Ryzen too?
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 дня назад
Fans barely ramp up. Very quiet.
@melahi94
@melahi94 3 дня назад
* Davinci is still in Beta right? Which is not "fully optimized", or they actually released a stable version?
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
We have to compare here and now. Who is saying it will be any better in six months?
@daveh6356
@daveh6356 3 дня назад
I think the issue is driver for the Snapdragons - it's a universal problem & why few graphics benchmarks work. Work waiting for a rematch but poor product release.
@rayenhmissi1181
@rayenhmissi1181 3 дня назад
Gould use tests that run natively for both laptops and don't use a test that is unsupported for x elite
@Dahamck
@Dahamck 3 дня назад
Which Power mode was used on the Windows Machine? High Performance / Balanced / Power Saver ?
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
He did say Performance Mode.
@galaxyginx
@galaxyginx 2 дня назад
This is the most helpful review for me in terms of video editing performance, I've been considering the Surface Pro for video editing & wanted to know how the X Elite works on Davinci Resolve, & against Macs. I do 4K60 video editing with color grade/Fusion/Mosaics & the result was showing Mac still does so much better & can't even be a competitor. I now have M1 Pro MBP & for my next PC, I'll wait for M4 MBP or get something(Discounted/Used/Refurbished) of M3 MBP, instead of Surface Pro(X Elite)
@atharvashinde9312
@atharvashinde9312 3 дня назад
Hey max I was planning to buy m3 pro chip mac but should I wait for m4 pro mac?? Plz ans 😊
@a89gaming26
@a89gaming26 3 дня назад
I think you should wait, its just a couple of months aways
@T10107
@T10107 3 дня назад
@@a89gaming26Agreed. Just wait. The MacBook will probably release October at the latest.
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
The M4 is a massive upgrade over the M3 so I would suggest waiting. It will truly make the X-Elite laptops look like £300 Chromebooks!
@151mcx
@151mcx 3 дня назад
lol, I was going to wait for M4, and I might buy one on M4, depending on how it stacks up... but I'm maybe going to wait for Qualcomm because I love windows.
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
Either wait for the superior M4 chip as it will be a bigger leap than the M2 to M3 Or buy an M3 spec when they get heavily discounted after the M4 release
@TokyoNeko8
@TokyoNeko8 3 дня назад
Made it in to the intro word bubbles!
@tumelotshepo
@tumelotshepo 3 дня назад
Thank you for the thorough Blender test. ❤️
@mrnonel
@mrnonel 3 дня назад
Can you do a take apart video for the Surface. Is it user upgradable for SSD and Ram?
@Raajyyyy
@Raajyyyy 3 дня назад
Bro this is first Gen 💀 this is the killer bro
@erivaldo1784
@erivaldo1784 3 дня назад
Yeah man, looks like people don't know for first generation Qualcomn did a Good job.
@Troll_Master_911
@Troll_Master_911 3 дня назад
First gen? What are you smoking, kiddo? They have been doing that SQ ARM sh** way before M-Series and still cannot make a better SOC. Such a shame. Lol 😂😊
@aldoinfanzon
@aldoinfanzon 3 дня назад
@@Troll_Master_911even worse they had to steal sorry hired ex Apple employees that worked on the m chips
@Troll_Master_911
@Troll_Master_911 3 дня назад
@@aldoinfanzon fr lol 😆
@kielvostro
@kielvostro 3 дня назад
It's not first gen. Qualcomm bought Nuvia which founded by ex-Apple engineers who engineered the Apple Silicon. You can read the articles.
@demetriouspough5484
@demetriouspough5484 3 дня назад
"It is not a powerhouse for creatives", Well said Max. That's not what the Surface Laptop 7th Edition is for at all. It's made for your normal everyday tasks, like the MacBok Air. It will be very interesting to see if Qualcomm releases chips to match the M Pro and M Max.
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 дня назад
That’s exactly the point we made
@thebeanstalker631
@thebeanstalker631 3 дня назад
So you need to pay 1400 for everyday task?
@demetriouspough5484
@demetriouspough5484 3 дня назад
@@thebeanstalker631 Well what do you think people are using the MacBook Air for? The MacBook Air is in place for the same tasks, and if you match the specs it costs even more than the Surface Laptop 7th Edition.
@sircoynie
@sircoynie 3 дня назад
When comparing does resolution have any effect on the performance benchmarks? If so then the Mac would win?
@febrianadji5758
@febrianadji5758 3 дня назад
I'm late to party Does the arm windows able to be used to do basic compiling? Like basic android programming or Ai training that's been done locally
@arkabhowmik7832
@arkabhowmik7832 3 дня назад
I believe Apple will possibly release FaceID on the upcoming OLED MacBooks. FaceID needs more hardware than Windows Hello so maybe the thinner OLED layer will help
@elloygarcia8155
@elloygarcia8155 3 дня назад
for years I've been thinking that the reason why apple added a notch in the in the early M series macbooks is because so they can add face ID in future macs and sell it as a feature. They could've Added the Face ID years earlier but its Apple, and they like to leave a cookie trail of "upgrades" in every new MacBooks
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 3 дня назад
Blender for windows arm is still in beta, so is Davinci currently. And the X Elite does have hardware accelerated ray tracing
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
Are they likely to get any of those issues sorted before the M4 MBPro range is released in a few months?
@christianr.5868
@christianr.5868 День назад
@@scod3908 probably, but if you prefer apple, I’d wait for the m4. I just want the surface pro because it’s a 2 in 1
@scod3908
@scod3908 День назад
@@christianr.5868 yeah, Apple iPad should be on the full Mac OS with the M4 chip to better compete as a 2-in-1 We're just hoping Apple moves past it's greed and offers 16GB base to compete (prior to this release MS Surface was 8GB base) I'm currently waiting for either M4 or heavily discounted 16/18GB M3
@lukemorrison
@lukemorrison 3 дня назад
Apple mentions running 4 HD cameras and reencoding a video senario . Can any of the PC's do that? I'd like to see you do some comparisons of this while backing up the video for each camera and the encoded feed to attached SSDs. This would be a good comparison also.
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 дня назад
Really nice tests, thank you! Mac users will remain Mac users even if XElite would beat M3Pro! It would be interesting to see how xElite is compared to Intel based laptops.
@lesleyhaan116
@lesleyhaan116 3 дня назад
even if XElite would beat M3Pro but its not beating the binned M3 Pro
@oli.2844
@oli.2844 3 дня назад
Its not beating anything. These chips failed. Its fine Microsoft, just move on. S
@151mcx
@151mcx 3 дня назад
no way... I have a macbook Air M1 that I love. But I really really hate mac os. Windows is better OS for me. So, it's getting there, but, I think in a few years these machines will be on par.... Time will tell I suppose.
@yujilee112
@yujilee112 3 дня назад
x elite should at very least has better gpu , but nope. even 8 gen 3 has better gpu than them , what a failure.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 3 дня назад
It's brand new the driver takes time to mature
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 3 дня назад
In tests the X Elite have a bit stronger results, but the GPU exactly the same like the SD8G3 had, maybe they added one extra core or just increased the base clock frequency, so the result a bit better in X Elite, but it's the same GPU.
@SergioWolf843
@SergioWolf843 3 дня назад
In seeing Qualcomm only increased the power of the GPU and beat Apple, the TBDR Architecture that Apple inherited from the partnership with IMG remains the most efficient, now they have the RTX along with TBDR, an overwhelming design and at the same time efficient, the performance per Watt of Apple’s GPU is Higher, the impression I have is that Apple is about 2/3 years ahead of the competition.
@DerikTran
@DerikTran 3 дня назад
Will there be a desktop version with Adobe optimized?
@nonysun1122
@nonysun1122 2 дня назад
what cpu monitoring you use on Mac?
@sagardatta2199
@sagardatta2199 3 дня назад
Electronics are really cheap in the US...Macbook pro M3 pro only cost 1700$...In India it cost around 2400$...By the way love to watch your videos(GREAT CONTENT❣)
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
Indian import duties and taxes plus exchange rates. No rip-off, just India's government choices.
@rtx_____
@rtx_____ 3 дня назад
u dont have to buy the latest and get ripped off
@xAnonymousComedia
@xAnonymousComedia 3 дня назад
@@ahaimes6320 Those Macbooks are probably made in India to begin with
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
@@xAnonymousComedia A year ago, Apple did not intend to make Macbook Pros in India (Google).
@M16-bf4ku
@M16-bf4ku 3 дня назад
@@xAnonymousComedianope they re not... all macbooks are made in china
@AhmedSh-nc6lj
@AhmedSh-nc6lj 3 дня назад
Well, the hardware has become almost equal, and the competition has become in software and optimization 🕊️
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 3 дня назад
Linux is going to smoke the Mac's on this laptops
@JohnCross-rz5uq
@JohnCross-rz5uq 2 дня назад
There are SO many excellent software you cannot get for MacOS ! I bought a MacBook Air M1 16GB, I am so very disappointed with the lack of software to MacOS !!! The first, the last and the ONLY time I ever bougt a Mac, never, never, never a Mac again !!!
@tkklein
@tkklein 2 дня назад
@@JohnCross-rz5uq why did you buy it in the first place lol then get a PC
@AhmedSh-nc6lj
@AhmedSh-nc6lj 2 дня назад
@@JohnCross-rz5uq Well u have Surface 7 now almost as powerful as an M2 Max
@JohnCross-rz5uq
@JohnCross-rz5uq 23 часа назад
@@AhmedSh-nc6lj I had two PC´s and still have !!! I had hoped the MacOS wa better than the rumors, but it sucks, so does the lack of good softwre for MacOS !
@qwertyzxaszc6323
@qwertyzxaszc6323 3 дня назад
The Surface laptops look super nice. I think I will wait and get one of next year's iterations once any bugs have been identified and perhaps new features and performance improvements.
@robbe4129
@robbe4129 3 дня назад
With Microsoft you never know maybe a galaxy book would be better I have a surface pro 8. At that time I heard they that with this device they made a pretty good one. I have a lot of driver problems and problems with programs from Microsoft. Even their support couldn’t help me
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
They look like someone at MS design department peeked at a 2016 macbook 🙈
@qwertyzxaszc6323
@qwertyzxaszc6323 День назад
@@scod3908 ..and that the SOC was designed by people who worked at Apple.
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu 3 дня назад
What was the battery difference between the two? I might have missed that info. Thanks.
@MaxTechOfficial
@MaxTechOfficial 3 дня назад
Chapter markers to the battery life section at the end
@AdamGamingARK
@AdamGamingARK 3 дня назад
@@MaxTechOfficial you should have mentionned the difference in Wh between the 2 batteries, maybe you can put it in a pinned comment
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu 3 дня назад
​​​@@MaxTechOfficial I listened to it twice, this information it is not there. Found it in someone's comment. The chips seem to be quite comparable, the Apple one has about 15 Wh more.
@niravarora9887
@niravarora9887 3 дня назад
After heavy testing of 3 hours 30 mins, macbook pro had 25% remaining, and Surface Laptop had 7% remaining. A couple of things to take a note of, Surface Laptop has a much smaller battery and he tested a lot of apps that are not supported natively by ARM, it had to run emulated version. I have Surface Laptop 7, for a day to day use, it seems to have a solid battery life.
@vandenhengel978
@vandenhengel978 2 дня назад
Is the Windows hello face recognition as safe as Face ID, or is it just a flat, very unsafe recognition that most PC notebooks offer?
@Jayguevara1982
@Jayguevara1982 3 дня назад
I, respectfully, disagree: the trackpad on the 2024 model of the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 is the best trackpad on a Windows laptop by far!
@TheosTechTips
@TheosTechTips 3 дня назад
Maybe they just haven't tested it. They aren't going around and buying every single windows laptop.
@IceBlueLugia
@IceBlueLugia 3 дня назад
No way does any diving board bullshit come close tk thr magnetic haptic ones on the macbook or surface
@allstarkidXD
@allstarkidXD 3 дня назад
Overall m3 pro wins
@zman245
@zman245 3 дня назад
Thank you
@ezronthelegend
@ezronthelegend 3 дня назад
@@zman245obviously
@isiahfriedlander5559
@isiahfriedlander5559 3 дня назад
Slower for more monet? no thanks
@Silent_poet
@Silent_poet 3 дня назад
Apple products are way costlier than windows devices in other countries.
@haruyanto8085
@haruyanto8085 3 дня назад
​@@Silent_poet but they provide far more support
@myusrn
@myusrn 3 дня назад
review noted surface has touch with no mention of pen support that is really useful. having that allows you to get rid of printers and complete pdf forms, including parts requiring signatures, w/o printing them out and scanning completed form back in.
@JJ9763
@JJ9763 3 дня назад
Surface Laptop (7th) dropped pen support, only has touch. Surface Pro (11th) has both.
@tom95521
@tom95521 3 дня назад
Maybe try stressing the NPU with DaVinci Resolve Slow Motion with optical flow and speed warp. It would be interesting to see if the Mac running Parallels and DaVinci Resolve Arm is faster than the DaVinci Resolve on Snapdragon X.
@_uncle_bob_
@_uncle_bob_ 3 дня назад
Lets wait for ages until all vendors rebuild their stuff for arm chip 😂
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 3 дня назад
Windows ports are usually insanely fast
@151mcx
@151mcx 3 дня назад
@@Noname12........641 and.... don't forget you can usually upgrade a Windows machine, so you need more ram or storage? No problem...unlike a mac. The future of arm will be interesting on the windows side. In the future, I think the windows side is going to innovate hardware wise much faster than apple. But we shall see!!! Exciting times.
@Noname12........641
@Noname12........641 3 дня назад
@@151mcx can't wait to see rog take on x elite They will bundle with mobile 4080 egpu That machine will eat macbooks
@alphabasic1759
@alphabasic1759 3 дня назад
I liked this comparison between very similar laptops. Most people just want care about all the graphics since almost no one is a graphics artist or content creator other than RU-vidrs. That said, as a techie and a business user I would appreciate extended battery life. The real issue for me is the ecosystem and the ecosystem for people like me is far stronger on Windows. I have both and I somewhat prefer it for development (since MacOS is really Linux at the end of the day). This was the best comparison of the two types of laptops I've seen. Much better than the 100% fanboy channels. Also, better than the Snapdragon release hype train.
@drev487
@drev487 3 дня назад
Why no arm blender build which is available even in beta?
@ansaarustado77
@ansaarustado77 3 дня назад
Could you make a video comparing the MacBook Pro M3 Pro and the Galaxy Book 4 Edge please?
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 дня назад
You know the most impressive thing with these X-Elite stuffs... This is gen 1 and we are comparing to M3 Pro.. Gen 3 That is actually a great accomplishment.. And a huge win for consumers.. This is amazing actually.. But for now.. The M3 Pro here is better cause you get a better screen and speaker if that's important to you. But if you have to use Windows... The Surface here is super duper impressive.
@rechiecanonigo3800
@rechiecanonigo3800 3 дня назад
Agree, also please note that it took both microsoft and qualcomm almost 5 years to compete with last years m series chip. Its fair to say that the 2nd gen of Elite will be release next year around this time trailing behind m4. But still again props to microsoft and qualcomm. Their next goal now is to convince app devs to switch to ARM which normally takes years and years.
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 дня назад
@@rechiecanonigo3800 Oh yeah.. To come up with this in 5 years.. If that's actually what it took them.. I'd applaud them cause I am sure Apple took way more than that. And Apple, just like snapdragon have been in the business of Arm chips for years. It's harder to collaborate on things like this, and having to account for a lot of manufacturers too.. So yeah, big ups to them and as a consumer, I am really happy. I think devs will jump on quickly.. Considering two major players in the tech consumer market are now competing with Arm Chips (Apple and Microsoft)... Considering their OS are popular and what most people use, I think devs will begin to optimize sooner..
@elloygarcia8155
@elloygarcia8155 3 дня назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@rechiecanonigo3800 the time qualcomm acquired EX Apple employees who worked on previous m chips is the moment the had a chance in competing with M series chips
@nandhu6327
@nandhu6327 3 дня назад
I think you can change ur channel name from max tech to apple tech😂 😂
@dswartze
@dswartze 3 дня назад
The SL7 does pretty good though! Microsoft has been marketing the SL7 against the MB Air and not the MBP. All in all, I am excited for the future for us all ... because Windows and Mac users are getting access to great stuff!
@vasay4897
@vasay4897 3 дня назад
Please! Compare the performance of the new neural noise reduction in Lightroom! It is calculated locally (not in the cloud) on the RTX 3060m, one photo from the Sony a7 III takes approximately 15 seconds. It’s very interesting how it works on Snapdragon - is it bad because of the weak GPU or does the NPU help?
@xperiafan5370
@xperiafan5370 3 дня назад
It's not fully optimised. It's still in beta. Isn't it?!
@goobfilmcast4239
@goobfilmcast4239 3 дня назад
Just like when the original M1 came out ...quite a bit of software was either un-optimized or written for Intel-based Macs....but Apple Silicon still crushed most of its direct Windows competitors...handily
@xperiafan5370
@xperiafan5370 3 дня назад
@@goobfilmcast4239 Sure! But not in all areas as there are areas where optimisation is inevitable, irrespective of architecture. So they shouldn't go about spreading misinformation about optimisation which isn't there yet.
@wesley.zago120
@wesley.zago120 3 дня назад
i don't know why people think that comparing the x elite with the m3 pro when not even the prices match is fair but ok... (like not even qualcomm made that comparison if this chip was meant to compete with the m3 pro they would've made that comparison before anyone else)
@farhadmovahedi190
@farhadmovahedi190 3 дня назад
Probably because the prices are close enough that people would consider M3 pro too. To be fair I don’t this MS surface is made for the users who need that much performance and do those more serious editing. For me, it was just out of curiosity haha
@robo2207
@robo2207 3 дня назад
Bcs he is a Apple elite sheep. And yes for All the haters, I have windows Mac and using linux daily, so I have experience with All three and no bias.
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
The reality is that for $300 more (current prices), it would be a no-brainer to pay that extra cost, as the M3 Pro destroyed the X-Elite in every regard.
@pinktuna3693
@pinktuna3693 3 дня назад
@@farhadmovahedi190 Maybe the higher spec Laptops, But This spec is nowhere near being close to the price of the M3 Pro. The pricing is clearly meant to compete with the MacBook Air. Even the Base MacBook Pro Laptop is further away from this laptop in pricing when compared to the Base MacBook Air.
@robo2207
@robo2207 3 дня назад
@@ahaimes6320 depends on where you live, here in Denmark for example its closer to 2100 dollars
@graxxon
@graxxon 2 дня назад
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="300">05:00</a> Does the touchscreen have such a high latency or does it not detect all touches?
@44galore
@44galore 3 дня назад
Why is it that noone is testing ollama on the Snapdragon X Elite? Would love to see a comparison with the performance on a M3(pro/max).
@champsdesigner
@champsdesigner 3 дня назад
If you want Windows and want to get rid of Intel/AMD laptops i think the Snapdragon is a great upgrade. But if you want to work, the MBP is a beast.
@Coconutgl
@Coconutgl 3 дня назад
even for working x elite is not better than intel/amd in many cases. in this video it already shows some professional design applications cannot be run by arms, some runs badly. if you are a designer using those applications for your job, how can you switch to x elite to risk your career?
@champsdesigner
@champsdesigner 3 дня назад
@@Coconutgl usually not performance, but Intel/AMD counterparts are usually loud, battery is not even close, and if you use on battery performance sucks.
@lenn55
@lenn55 3 дня назад
They still have a long ways to go with regards to GPU and WIndoz support. But a good first go for Qualcomm.
@alyessamaddox7022
@alyessamaddox7022 День назад
This honestly tracks pretty well with what I expected. What Qualcomm did is very impressive, but this is a first gen chip going up against a very mature and refined design, and Snapdragon chips have never quite managed to match Apple's silicon. That's not to say the X Elite isn't incredible! It's just up against very stiff competition.
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 3 дня назад
Awesome & Thanks :)
@davout5775
@davout5775 3 дня назад
To be honest, M2 Pro or even M1 Pro should beat the X Elite. It would actually be funny if you can make the M1 Pro vs X Elite to see how far ahead Apple really was years ago. I truly believe Apple did things better. Qualcommis walking a dirt road where Apple was cutting the trees and removing the rocks to create that road. Let's see if Apple was that far ahead.
@sumitjangraa
@sumitjangraa 3 дня назад
You can just slap a faster SSD (nVme 4.0) on the Surface which is not an option with the MacBook.
@paulmaseman2171
@paulmaseman2171 3 дня назад
But that increases the price, which then would have to justifiably be included in the comparison.
@kaptnwelpe5322
@kaptnwelpe5322 3 дня назад
@@paulmaseman2171 😂😂😂😂 You meant that Max would have to use the priciers MPB SKU to match the Surfaces new SSD size?? What a luck I switched to Windows - when I started using Macs we Mac users were different.
@ahaimes6320
@ahaimes6320 3 дня назад
How do you know that MS is not restricting the SSD performance due to bandwidth or power consumption? The current SSD could perform better on another machine. You cannot make assumptions like that.
@sumitjangraa
@sumitjangraa 3 дня назад
@@paulmaseman2171 it's not $200 for 256GB like Apple. M.2 SSDs are like $100 for 1TB.
@sumitjangraa
@sumitjangraa 3 дня назад
@@ahaimes6320 It uses a Gen4 SSD on PCI lane. You can get them in several speeds... I have a PC with 3500mbps SSD but I can swap it for one with 7,000mbps. It's also a Gen4.
@leakyabstraction
@leakyabstraction 3 дня назад
Would be curious to see how does an Ultra 7 or 9 would compare
@JPPJustPerfectPlayers
@JPPJustPerfectPlayers День назад
Thank you for making this!
@fandihatib4692
@fandihatib4692 3 дня назад
took Microsoft 4 years to compete! fair play!
@ehtasam2080
@ehtasam2080 3 дня назад
Same with smartphone in 2007 vs 2012 In an interview johny srouji said they are 4 years ahead of whatever so whatever they do then the competition will come 4 years later.
@Aaron_Bleu
@Aaron_Bleu 3 дня назад
Apple laptops make almost all others look like cheap knock offs. Hope that one day another company can truly compete
@TokyoNeko8
@TokyoNeko8 3 дня назад
Microsoft surface line is well made. Other ones are garbage quality
@Dan96max225
@Dan96max225 3 дня назад
I returned a MacBook Air to pre order the surface laptop 7. Build quality on both is excellent. Neither is cheap. For what I need, the surface has been awesome and I don’t have to deal with macOS to get a laptop with good battery life. Snapdragon and m series apple is a win for the laptop market.
@solaawodiya7360
@solaawodiya7360 3 дня назад
Although it's pretty close this time. It will only get better from now on
@accesswireless189
@accesswireless189 3 дня назад
No matter how fast the snapdragon is, the most important issue is what is the x86 software compatibility at full speed. Is it that x86 compatibility is so good that it is not an issue any more, or it is something that it is not being mentioned when it is the most important issue for most people. The last time we had an ARM Windows PC, x86 software was so slow that it was not worth the long battery time it offered. This time the ARM CPU is fast, but does it mean that the emulated x86 performance is just as fast as a real Intel laptop and just as widely compatible as a real x86 intel CPU?
@151mcx
@151mcx 3 дня назад
I guess you just don't understand X86 vs ARM ... ARM is much better system.... X86 is backwards compatible so you can take a piece of software and potentially run it on a 286/386/486 all the way up to what we have now, and that is a huge limitation and slow down of the system. It's BIOS is ancient. ARM on the hand.... So, x86 is going away finally. But just like apple, it will probably take a good 3~4 years to convert all the drivers, software over to ARM from X86. But, it will happen.
@Ipeacocks
@Ipeacocks 3 дня назад
Blender is not native test (in emulation on Windows, right?). So it eats more battery then native code on mac. Probably batter to use some native test for battery life only.
@agreste2448
@agreste2448 3 дня назад
The reason why Apple products often times work so seamlessly, is because at the end of the day, Apple does a better job with making their software efficient and easy to use and it just runs very well compared to windows
@scod3908
@scod3908 2 дня назад
Apple's OS only has to work on a set of hardware they have control over MS Windows has to run on a much greater range of hardware K.I.S.S principle
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
Kind of strange so many people were calling for this. These snapdragon chips and the surface have always been positioned against the MacBook Air M3 not the M3 pro. And since GPU has not been at all a focus for these chips, they are going to get utterly stomped in anything that requires graphics processing.
@TamasKiss-yk4st
@TamasKiss-yk4st 3 дня назад
But if you calculate that how the devices keep their price, alias which one have better resale price when you buy a new one (just check the M1 price, which is a 4 years old Macbook recently..), and which one gives you 7-8 free OS updates instead of forcing you to buy their new Windows version on your own.. the difference basically not even exists..
@Kyt2024
@Kyt2024 3 дня назад
Major windows revisions are free just the same as MacOS. And I don’t think most people honestly think or care about electronics resale pricing. Like in theory sure that’s great that, but it presumes the machine is in sellable condition and in my experience most people run their electronics into the ground before they replace them or just give them to family or a friend if they are still good.
@AKJordansKids2009
@AKJordansKids2009 День назад
I’m curious if we can virtualize the Mac OSX on the new X Elite.
@kristianivanov36
@kristianivanov36 3 дня назад
The fact that Qualcomm needs 12 Performance cores to beat apple's 5 in multi core is amazing xd xd xd
@GadgetsArise
@GadgetsArise 3 дня назад
Next time, compare it with the M3 Max Chip 😂
@enamuossuo
@enamuossuo 3 дня назад
😂
@MTN1601
@MTN1601 3 дня назад
Nah, let’s wait for M4 Max 😂
@abhijith_mb
@abhijith_mb 3 дня назад
Completely different price points
@Avner-sj2ky
@Avner-sj2ky 3 дня назад
The x elite is good but I can't play many games meaning buying an m4 is a better choice
@Coconutgl
@Coconutgl 3 дня назад
however x elite doesn’t have high end chips, if someone really need performance x elite will never be the choice.
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 3 дня назад
I kinda like the surface speaker system slightly more. The Macbook M3 Pro is so bassy that it's muddy sounding & drowns out the vocals (at least in this recording) making me prefer the slightly tinny sounding Surface.
@JBravo69
@JBravo69 3 дня назад
IRL MB pro speakers are amazing. You should do a real life comparison in a store
@thebuddercweeper
@thebuddercweeper 3 дня назад
There's nothing muddy about the 14" MacBook Pro's speakers in person.
@mahmood1212
@mahmood1212 3 дня назад
Great comparison.
@DevQc70
@DevQc70 3 дня назад
I dont know if you know that but the score you got with the surface may be not exact. For the web browser, did you installed the Edge ARM version? Because the default version is emulated under prism. For the performance, did you change the power mode and plant in order to improve the performance? As explained in the video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nDRV9eEJOk8.htmlsi=v1y8O4W14CR7DRu6
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 дня назад
Camera and mic on Macbook is better
@kjellbeats
@kjellbeats 3 дня назад
cam on mac and mic on surface
@eltamarindo
@eltamarindo 3 дня назад
Microsoft would have bogged down that 512GB pretty fast, if the public hadn't given them pushback about their datamining spyware.
@Nick_Lavigne
@Nick_Lavigne 3 дня назад
hopefully you also set the "power mode" and now just the "Power Plan" in win 11 one doesn't alter the other.
@graxxon
@graxxon День назад
Thanks for the review.
@Rowrin
@Rowrin 3 дня назад
Biggest problem with Snapdragon is... Windows. I will not buy another Windows device unless I can install Linux on it. Microsoft couldn't pay me to use Windows 11.
@hdpapsey
@hdpapsey 2 дня назад
Good for you🤭
@NachiketVartak
@NachiketVartak 3 дня назад
Ah, but there a factor you miss. Windows is progressively being riddled with things you cannot turn off…like Copilot
@SintaxBSD
@SintaxBSD 3 дня назад
...but you can turn copilot off lol
@TheosTechTips
@TheosTechTips 3 дня назад
You can turn off copilot. It's actually opt-in now instead of opt-out. That being said, it won't last forever!
@VitaliyNET
@VitaliyNET День назад
Export and processing of data in Figma are performed on the server. When you export a design or data from Figma, the request is sent to Figma's servers where the necessary processing is carried out, and then the result is returned to the client. 😅
@gilesgilbert2704
@gilesgilbert2704 2 дня назад
How about the surface against parallels? Does the mac do windows better than the snapdragon?
Далее
If you come for the king, you best not miss…
14:03
Просмотров 99 тыс.
Gale Now VS Then Edit🥵 #brawlstars #shorts
00:15
Просмотров 413 тыс.
Игровой Комп с Авито за 4500р
01:00
X Elite vs M1 MacBook Air - NOT What We Expected.. 😲
17:44
The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse
12:42
Просмотров 1,5 млн
I drove these NEW electric cars until they DIED!
50:49
The PERFECT laptop
13:56
Просмотров 24 тыс.
I Bought a $5000 PC in a Random Asian Tech Mall
22:12
Apple, it's time to finally talk about this.
9:26
Просмотров 25 тыс.
Apple's Silicon Magic Is Over!
17:33
Просмотров 968 тыс.
YOTAPHONE 2 - СПУСТЯ 10 ЛЕТ
15:13
Просмотров 99 тыс.