This is an unfair test as when the lock is in the door, its supported by the door up to the point where it is supposed to snap, the point of snapping is designed for being in a door and won't be effective in a vice.
@@LondonLocks Yeah they can easily snap the handle, but I don't believe there would be as much of the lock barrel protruding from the door as there is from your vice. And like Philip above was getting at, the lock is held in place with a central fixed bolt, meaning the snapping point is completely different to when you have over half of the cylinder clamped in a vice.
I work in the upvc industry Just this morning I had to help out a new fitter with one of these lock as they had lost the keys (they come with the comp doors the company supply) 20mins it took to drill, snap and trigger the firing the pin. They come from the factory installed too All I had too was basic equipment I’m certainly not impressed with them finding out how easy it was I find the secondary anti snap sleeves that can be fitted over the barrel behind the lock handle better as both sides are connected with 5mm Alan screws clapping both sides together the handle
I've snapped these clean off when sitting without handles, I use the pick when the handles support it. It really does rely on the handles to stop it from being vulnerable. The correct fitting of the cylinder is essential also.
@@escos0410 So it took you 20 minutes to break this lock as apposed to 30 seconds for a normal euro cylinder lock?? I'd say that's a win and a positive for this lock. Appreciate it might not be infallible, but it's a huge improvement on 99% of the locks out there today surely.
Have been looking to replace my locks so checking out RU-vid to help. Find this a very distorted video as the integrity of the lock is helped by the door frame and that how it should be tested. So I would imagine snapping it in a vice is not a very accurate representation of its snap strength. If you are going to demonstrate how easy it is to break or drill ANY lock then please do it in real situation, in a door, using the same tools an opportunistic thief would be using. Then at least any customer would be able to make a comparative choice and your videos more worth while. This video does not help any consumer looking to determine what is the right lock to choose.
Thanks for your comment. This isn’t a consumer video, but I appreciate your feedback. I wouldn’t recommend these cylinders for many reasons, So it is kinda is helping you determine which lock NOT to choose. Personally I have EVVA cylinders on all my doors. There’s my tip. 😉. Plus any of these I have opened in real doors, in real life situations, I’ve picked the lock open in minutes.
@@LondonLocks this is very good video, cause it actually shows that even if you snap the lock you are still fail to open it. And you would never snap lock that quick when it’s in a door.
I completely agree with you Nick. Very few of these videos are made for consumers, they seem to be made for lock pickers. It really is silly to put the lock in a vise and demonstrate its destruction because anyone can do that. A burglar is looking for the easiest quickest way to get in and he won't be bothering to take minutes to fiddle with the lock, let alone carrying a vise and an electric drill around with him.
I don’t think this is a true representation of the lock. It’s a bit like driving over a phone with a tank and saying it won’t withhold pressure from being in your back pocket.
I agree to an extent of how this can be seen as unfair as the barrel will be mostly in the door if people measure the cylinders correctly. But these locks like most can all be picked. The ultion being the biggest gap opening so all tools can be inserted to be picked. I have this lock but replaced it with something else as I didn’t like it. Also when inserting my key to lock and unlock my door with this lock it was very clunky and wasn’t smooth to insert. Really put me off having this lock. There is a RU-vid video where someone picked this lock within one minute
Its a good lock. Unless you have a 2 inch solid steel front door and 2 inch thick break proof windows they will get in if they want. They could just break a window or cut through the door. Ive seen it where theyve not bothered drilling the lock and just use a flame tourch to cut through the door around the locks
This is test about how to destroy a lock, not about gaining entry through the door. As far as this shows, this lock has done a fantastic job, so it's an endorsement for the company that makes them.
My point is there are better cylinders on the market. Manufacturers say this and that but really with the right tools and a little bit of know-how most high cylinders are really not that hard to open. One should believe all the hype, as always. consult your local MLA-approved locksmith for advice as they'll know what's best for your area based on the attacks they see. FYI - these locks pick open very quickly so drilling or snapping is the absolute last resort.
If you look at your video objectively, it only shows how to destroy a lock and there isn't a lock that would survive this treatment. Maybe you can do another video of you doing the same to a lock that withstands the test, go on, try it.@@LondonLocks
Hi. No not at all. Drilling slow and steady caused no binding. In real life I wouldn’t have the luxury of apply the same force as in the video, unless it was fitted badly.
Since it's easy for a burglar to snap a handle and gain access to a cylinder, do you think it would be a good idea to weld the outside handle to the door? (my door is an aluminum door) provided that you can still change the cylinder when needed by removing the plate that's on the inside of the door and then removing the cylinder from the inside.
No it isnt probably made in the same place Federal Locks Taiwan. The Era is a more difficult lock to open by picking and or snapping and drilling, the ERA is very similar to Federals own lock the Ironguard YCF.
None of these videos destroying 3 star locks, from experts, ever give you a better alternative or any advice on what we should be using to deter thieves...
@@LondonLocksThanks for the reply, much appreciated. I was looking at the ABS also. So I'll go ABS then. Thanks! Would you recommend a cylinder guard too or is that not necessary if you have the 2 star handle? There have been loads of snapped locks in our area recently, and many stolen cars. In fact there was a question raised about it by our local MP in parliament a couple of days ago... that's how bad it's got. The area is Sherburn in Elmet.
@@lawts78 2-star handles are the perfect match for a 3-star cylinder. The aim of the star system is to try and achieve 3 stars total, if you achieve 5 you are way above the recommendation. But this is what I have on my own doors. The more protection for the cylinder the better. Kind regards.
Boss Beano yes. The pins are on the other side of the cylinder. It’s a mirror image. And the keyway is way wider allowing easier access. The upgrade is probably worse then the original. 😂
Hello, thank you for your video, great job. Please tell me she's the best cylinder for you? What do you recommend I buy?. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
B walid they pick pretty easy and they aren’t drill resistant. But you need skill to keep it clean. Better than most, but for the money there’s better out there. Like EVVA 3* eps cylinders available from us.
Omg I can do that as that's cheating it's in the door omg and Ur camera it's all over the place I won't get a £1000 for that and its £2000 now but u cheated.
