SnowMotion 2020 Ski Tips Moguls with former US Ski Team Freestyler Michael Friedberg 

Except the teaching was wrong.

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The teaching was wrong.

@@JB91710 explain please

@@paulfechtmeister9893 He is describing what mogul skiing Looks Like, not how to make it Look Like that. Being the best skier does not guarantee you can teach it. 0:20 That's called Standing Up. Really! You have to do that with all types of skiing. 0:50 A "Lead Change" is something that happens Naturally when you face your upper body down the hill and your skis turn under you. You don't even think of what comes natural. 1:12 Do NOT think about putting one knee behind the other. DON"T! 2:00 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You think about the uphill side of the bump like you would a staircase. You walk down the stairs on the steps not the risers. You make your turns against the side of the bump you see from the above. Your pole plant is a flick of the wrist as you face and lean your upper body, from your face down to your pelvis, Down The Hill between the bumps. You think about where your skis are turning, not where your pole is going. 2:35 Do you think he is focusing on his poles here? He is focusing on his upper body going down the hill as he makes turns against the upper part of the mogul. 2:42 Do you think she is thinking about tucking one knee behind the other or pushing the uphill foot ahead of the downhill foot? 2:50 Do you think this comment is accurate based on what you just saw? 3:00 Look at the feet. Does it look like she is forcing the lead change or is it just a result of the feet turning while her upper body isn't? You think about facing and leaning your upper body down the hill while you conventionally ski down the moguls maki9ng your turns on the uphill face. The KEY to success is being confident and aggressive to lead with your upper body while your skis follow you down the hill.

Problem is, he was completely wrong in his teaching.

Unfortunately everything he said is wrong. All the things he mentioned happen naturally when you do what you are supposed to do which he DIDN"T teach you.

Knee tucking is a bad idea; it happens more often/naturally with women (because of wider hips). You still need hip angulation in the bumps, and I would advise evening out the feet when traversing laterally over the crest of the bump.

@@Osnosis Thanks for clarifying. It goes to show how complicated and difficult mogul skiing is. It’s strange that a former world cup competitor could issue such wrong information. It would be interesting if he could provide an answer.

@@hbgap3596 it is indeed complicated. Mogul skiing is counter-intuitive. And to ski moguls in a competitive way is different than recreational. I have taught moguls for 30 years, and adults all have slightly different “impediments”, usually psychological. I would note that the student hear is counterbalancing by sticking out the rear (common with all intermediate skiers in many conditions). Also, learn mogul skiing on a beginner slope, not in a mogul field.

backside is downhill

@@tilbie64 incorrect, pole plant on the downhill side

@Doug Foster Michael says to plant on the backside/at the upper side of a mogul. It would have been clearer if he said the upper/at the top/at the beginning side of a mogul.

Definitely forward; try planting the pole on the far (downhill) side of the mogul as you crest it (not the backside).

Your chest free falls down the hill between the bumps while you ski conventionally against the uphill side of the bumps. Your skis follow your upper body down the hill. If you stand up to straight, your skis will fly out from under you.

@@JB91710 Not disagreeing, but your description is too complex for most intermediate skiers. You DO 'stand up', but that's basically pressing the ball of the foot, to allow the tip to drop into the downhill face/trough. This needs to be taught on a low angle slope, so that the student doesn't panic.

@@Osnosis I'm referring to standing up like you would on a flat surface. In bumps you have to be in a constant state of falling and more perpendicular to the slope. Suck your knees up as you absorb and leave one mogul and push the tips down to the next one. My style was big turns in the bumps not fall line twisting.

@@Osnosis "Intermediate" skiers should not be in steep, trail moguls. My mogul teaching method is not for them. Intermediate slope moguls just need to be skied technically correct but with aggressiveness that they have to learn there so they have the confidence to be aggressive on expert slope bumps.

I think of it like groomers are 2D skiing and moguls are 3D. same principles but in the bumps both knees contract while going over the bump and extend after the crest.

Seriously, I watched the video several times, and even many times in slow-motion. He is definitely NOT doing what he said to do, lol!

I am 62 and primarily ski moguls. There are a lot of technical aspects to mogul skiing, but it’s the quads that get worked more than the knees.

@@Osnosis You are right. IF, and that's a big IF, for most people, if you ski the moguls Correctly, the knees shouldn't take a beating. It's all about shock absorption.

@@JB91710 We agree again. However, I prefer to teach anticipation (of retraction) rather than shock absorption.

@@Osnosis That's how I used to ski moguls. My upper body would go one way and my feet would go the other. I looked like a wet noodle in bumps.

Hey Joe, conjure up Warren and inform him that you -can- replace knees. How do I know? Just did so and it works great!

Have you ever skied before?

@@marm562 Yes. Are you familiar with the term "stance ski"?

The weighted or downhill ski is always behind. In every discipline of skiing. Every World Cup event. Even nordic.

@@michaelfriedberg1069 While many people, including some world cup skier ski your way, others, including many world cup skiers do not. By having your uphill ski, boot and leg forward of your weighted ski, you are compromising the ability of your hips to be in the proper counting acting position. There a plenty examples of world class skiers skiing with their boots together, The free/uphill boot will move away from the weighted boot vertically, but not horizontally. Search Google images and you will find many example of pros skiing my way..

@@michaelfriedberg1069 The link I sent shows a great picture of Ted Ligety skiing slalom. Note how his uphill/unweighted boot is separated vertically from the weighted boot, but it is not in front of it, it is parallel to the stance/weighed leg. You claim the weighted ski is always behind, (thus the unweighted ski always forward) This is not the case here, and not the case for many oth Worlds class skiers.

I agree. That said, it is much better than most mogul skiing instructional vids on youtube. It may be inadequately described here (a problem with a lot of instruction in my long experience. Being good at instruction is a whole skill in itself apart from being good at skiing) but at least the technique is correct. So many instructors on youtube don't really know how to do pro mogul skiing down the zip line. Too stiff. Wrong upper body stance. Skis too far apart. Wrong pole action etc.

@@jiros00 In every form of sport and in most things in life, your mind set, what you think about, what you envision, is the key. If you are a good skier and I mean, you know how to position your upper body and change your weight to allow the skis to make the turns instead of twisting your feet to make the skis turn, the next thing is how you adapt that knowledge to moguls. In my teaching method, what you do on skis is the same from first day beginner to parallel to moguls to carving to racer. The only thing that changes is the aggressiveness of the upper body repositioning which creates steeper leg angle. In moguls, you have to put fear aside, become extremely confident in your ability and aggressive and then think about free falling down the slope between the moguls while your skis Follow you. If you think about standing on your feet and riding them down the hill, they will shoot out from under you and you'll end up in a survival mode. The thing that creates leg angles is putting your upper body back in the fall line while your skis are still crossing the hill. If your body doesn't anticipate the direction change, the new turn won't happen on it's own because the leg angle won't be able to happen. You'll end up having to force it. Your upper body position, momentum, gravity and the ski design are what create turns. You ski from your eyes down. The last thing that happens is the skis turning. That is contrary to just about what every ski instructor in the world thinks even thought that's how they ski. They just can't see it. "Two Dimensional Reactors" see feet turning and legs leaning over. So their teaching method is to focus on the feet and lower leg. "Twist the feet, bend the ankles and "Tip" your knees over to the side." They just described what it looks like but not how to make it look like that. A "Three Dimensional Thinker" knows that the upper body leading the turn by facing and leaning down the hill makes all that happen. Watch the face, chest, pelvis and kneecaps of any Giant Slalom racer in slow motion. The skis are the last thing to change direction because it took all those body movements to allow the skis to turn.

@@JB91710 Wow! A very fundamental difference of opinion here. For sure, most instruction discusses countering, ankle & thigh steering movement rather than letting the body go down the fall line. Hmmm. I did notice that top bump skiers do tend to send the body, and let the feet follow. As an older skier who only got into the game about a decade ago, I’m working hard in the bumps. That said, about a year ago I figured out on the groomers to send my torso squarely down the fall line and let my skis “carve and catch the body’s fall.” Big breakthrough! Relatively high edge angles earlier in each carve. But I haven’t had the nerve to try that in bumps. Instead, I’m skidding around the back side of each bump, or sliding the tails high on the faces, to control speed. I skied Killington into the month of May, but the season is now over. Gotta wait til November (or fly to the southern hemisphere.)

@@wildbill805 My last day skiing this year was at Killington on April 28th. For any skier, the Bumps are a state of mind rather than body. In all of skiing you have to do the opposite of what comes naturally. The more fear involved the harder it is. Imagine there is a cable running from top to bottom between the bumps that runs through your chest. You throw your upper body down the cable as your skis turn against the bumps to control your speed. It is that upper body position and weight change of your downhill ski as it passes under you that allows the skis to turn. You mentioned "ankle & thigh steering movement." When you face your upper body down the hill while your skis are crossing the hill, you are winding up a Torsion bar. When you get off your downhill ski edge which was locking the ski in that position, you are suddenly on your uphill ski which you are not balanced on so you fall down the hill. The uphill ski flattens out and that torsion is released to allow your skis to start facing in the same direction as your upper body. That is what makes you "Feel" like you are steering your legs to make the ski turn. You upper body falling down the hill while you change your balance from the downhill to uphill ski is what allows the skis to turn as designed. You don't make your skis turn, you allow them to turn by doing what they need while you Just balance on them.