Don’t get me wrong the vehicle looks amazing and Suburbans have been around for nearly 90 years, but in this economy, the rich get richer, the middle class get poorer. A suburban is 60k pretty bare bones. Impossible. Great post Tim, keep it up!
I enjoy the interviews you do with the engineers. I don't see that on many of the other automotive journalist channels. It's fun to see who is behind the development of these vehicles/engines and hear from them on what went into their decision making on the product.
Im thinking the only time I will ever see the interior or feel the ride of one of these things is if Im put in cuffs and taken to a re- eduction center.
I've always wanted the Duramax in the Z71 (and AT4). Then I checked out the price of diesel this week at various points across the country and I'm seeing a 20-40% bump over regular gas (for the 5.3). Those prices might erase the value element of the Duramax.
not really. I was averaging 19.1MPG on my gasser and currently 26.4MPG on the 3.0. Not to mention the torque is available immediately. The 3.0 is a much better match for a light duty pickup.
@@davidporter7051 Been driving GM trucks (K-Blazers and a Yukon) since 1981. I likely would have bought an AT4 if they would have previously built them with the Duramax. Now that the refresh has been delayed another year, it looks like I'll be changing brands. For the same dough I'll likely be in a Lexus GX by the spring, even though their new engine is thirsty..
@@ktpinnacle this really doesn't make sense. You say you're buying a Lexus because you can't get AT4 with a Diesel but you are buying a Toyota with an inefficient gaser.
I don't care for the presence based opening rear hatch. My Kia has it, and I disabled it because I had a situation when it opened on me because I walked behind my vehicle, and it opened up when I didn't want it to.
Im actually thrilled that the 2025 Z71 is going to offer the Diesel engine. My 2024 Tahoe premier is in transit form factory to dealer but I was never excited about it - always wanted the Z71 with Diesel and adaptive air suspension. I will skip on the 2024 and wait to get what Ive been waiting for. I just wished you had also showed the interior dash and info system on the Tahoe Z71 - is the layout the same as the Suburban you showed? Finally, did you notice the location of the trailer break controller (still left of steering wheel or moved to right side)?
YAYYYYYYYY IT'S ABOUT TIME THEY FINALLY GO TO 7000 RPM SINCE THE ESCALADE V NOT THE SAME OUTDATED OLD-SCHOOL 6000 CRAP THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1996 FOR 28 YEARS!!!!!!! (An exception is that 2021 all trims with the gas options and as well as 2022-current LS trims had 6500 actually). Hopefully this means the Silverado/Sierra will share the same gauges too...? The Colorado/Canyon even got it lol
Honestly surprised they aren’t offering the 2.7L turbo engine like they do in the Silverado. It’s such a good motor for towing. Where’s the 2025 Silverado and Sierra?
I got rear ended in my 2023 High Country back in October. It’s still in the shop waiting on parts and it is not looking good to have the parts in by February 2024. 😡
2025? Let’s get through the 2024s first. 3L diesel is a good idea, but we need to compute cost per mile to compare Gas to diesel based on per gallon cost and mpg.
How many of those *amazing* features will be subscription based? Seems to be where the OEMs are going to nowadays like Ford with the 360 camera that NOW WILL NEED A SUBSCRIPTION! Sad really.
I wonder if they will offer the max tow package with a 2 speed transfer case on these things. They currently will not allow you to package both together on ‘24 Silverado’s unless you buy the high country. Ford doesn’t build any F series with a 1 speed transfer case and all you to package anything together. It’s GM cutting corners in my opinion. I get these vehicles are luxury, but I’m not paying that kind of money for a vehicle that doesn’t have 4lo when it easily could.
I have a '22 Yukon XL SLE (lowest trim level) with Max Tow Pkg and it has the 2-speed transfer case. Unless they change the configuration for '25, you should be able to get the 2-speed transfer case on any trim level as long as you spec Max Tow.
Thanks for the information. A couple questions: 1. Are the seats in all trims being updated and made to be more comfortable? 2. Is the new infotainment worth waiting for the 2025s to come out? I have not used the new info system in other Chevy products.
Genuine question: In my country, Diesel is always cheaper than gas and by quite a good margin. Here in the US, is the opposite, at least in TX. Why is that and why would I buy a Diesel car then?
Be sure not to ask him about whether this diesel has the oil pump belt at the rear of the engine like with the 3.0L Silverado diesel which requires the cab to be removed just to change the belt, a nightmare. Also, don't show any video of the engine or how it is to maintain it; instead, show the guy standing there talking away. And, of course, don't show it start or drive at all.
Ugh I am so upset they held back a year for the new lift. Was really hoping that it would have been in the 2024 line as I have been planning to buy one this coming year. Looks like I will be stuck to a 2024 suburban high country with the lm2 diesel
Is there a way to order the H.C Suburban WITHOUT the panoramic sunroof? That sunroof is a deal breaker for me. I just see myself having to fix it every year😢and in Colorado we get too many hail storms. I'm not risking ruining the inside of a 6 figure vehicle
All these cool gadgets and technology is cool and all, but could we use some of the budget to work on reliability? I would love to see a 2020+ year GM product make it past 30k miles without having a major failure. Use all that extra money from sales and put together a continuous improvement group or reliability engineering group. Just a thought….
@@pech_wake_day1153 $83k for a High Country Suburban diesel right now. You think the new one will increase the price by $17k? No way. That's Escalade territory and doesn't make any marketing sense.
Can you mirror your navigation in those screens?! I ask because, being a chauffeur, it’d be great for clients concerned about traffic and their destination’s ETA.
Good luck with that garbage they call a 3rd row. I'll be leaving the Toyota brand because of it. I need 3 real rows and flat folding seats and 8k towing.
Any chance at better towing numbers? Something like the max trailering pack that they ran into supply issues with on the ‘22 Silverado. Gotta get this thing over 10k. No excuse when you have a powertrain that can handle it.
Hey Tim do they have a release date for gmc too? I preordered one and they told me it will be a 2024 I hope they will make the new model since i hate those push and pull shifter
We dont want all this bullsh!!!!!tttt. Has anyone else got that creepy feeling about that built in camera feature that allows you to look into the vehicle. They assure you you have to opt into it to view it. Cant imagine the govt not watching US citizens in their cars with this tech😵💫😵💫😵💫
Just doesn’t make sense the Silverado tows up to 13200 but this is rated at 8200🤦♂️ same diesel engine same rear same transmission why not the same tow rating or at least close to it
It’s a heavier vehicle to start with. And a majority of people don’t need that. They used to make a 2500 suburban. But they try to satisfy the masses while not sacrificing ride quality.
The only people that can afford these are politicians, business people, professional althetes. What GM needs to build is a 2 door Tahoe, with a removable fiberglass roof, a roll bar. front & rear solid axles, vinyl or cloth seats, 5.3 V-8, or the diesel. Basic dash, decontented. And price it below $35,000. And they would sell 300,000 easy.
Toyota says they can’t sell a base 2 door, 2wd Tacoma cheaper than about $31k. You think GM could do a “full-size” suv with your specs for only 4k more? I don’t think they are selling the Colorado for under $40k can they?
Great video answers so many questions i had!!! One question I always have b4 i buy anything. Can I leave the suv idle manually lock the door with the key ? I leave my cars run while in a store because dog is in the car
You can turn off the vehicle then do a remote start. Much safer that way. If broken into while remote started they can't drive it off vs if you locked it while idle in park.
@@krisv6496 I can't say for sure. It was an option on the prior generation. The 2025 model pricing and packaging hasn't been revealed yet and until it is, we simply don't know.
Do you think the third iteration of the same basic diesel engine will workout? Or will there be a 4th, or 5th iteration, before GM goes belly up! Instead of screwing the stock holders maybe they will go after warranty repairs?
Why are they calling these 2025, when it's not even 2024 yet? They need to start adding cooling seats as standard equipment since KIA and Hyundai offer them in the front and back seats!! Come on GM
@@PickuptrucktalkTalking about the new model two model years forward of the actual year is indeed a new thing. Just one more silly thing that is now new in the post 2020 world. Very silly stuff.
@@Pickuptrucktalk yeah talking prototypes and stuff not having the actual model built and in your face two years in advance. It was always one year and the new vehicle usually came out around sept.
Every steering wheel on every car looks that same. I like a 4 prong steering wheel and not one vehicle that I like offers it. The Cadillac XT5, I think.
Cheesy tech, kids want to use their cellphones or iPad… the hardware running behind those screens are trash and their software support life and scope will be short and small.
I have to agree, maybe my kids are spoiled but they all have much more functionality in iPads and they prefer it. It's fine as long as it is optional equipment, I pass on the entertainment and sunroof personally.
Where did you see that? All the major journalist outfits say 305hp and 495lb-ft. Edit, saw 2:50 but I think that is a slip of the tongue (maybe he was thinking of 430lb-fr for their 2.7 Turbo engine).
Do you think the government agencies who drive these monsters care about the price, reliability or fuel mileage? Probably not. Do you think the average tax payer who is paying for the government agencies to drive around in these will ever be able to afford one? No
Fed Government won’t be buying/leasing the diesel in most cases. BIG push for EV or hybrid, then comes e85. Reliability is kind of important, regardless of whether you’re using it for personal, private company or government use, nobody wants to be stuck waiting on a tow truck.
You clearly don't drive through my child's middle school parent pickup/drop-off line. Though I will say I see more higher trim GMCs than Chevrolets. There are definitely consumers buying them, I'd venture to say these large GM products are the most popular in the line of parents shepherding their kids to school.
