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GM 3.0L Diesel LM2 Engine vs 5.3L V8 Gas Engine Fuel Cost Comparison | Is The Diesel Worth It? 

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welcome to my channel. In this video I discuss the GM 3.0L diesel engine vs the 5.3L V8 gas engine and break down the fuel costs to drive each engine to 100,000 miles. I go through the reasons I bought the 3.0L Duramax Diesel Engine and some of the advantages compared to the V8 Gas Engine.
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GMC Sierra Yukon Yukon XL Chevy Silverado Suburban Tahoe 3.0L Duramax Diesel Engine comparison to the V8 5.3L Gas Engine, which is the better choice, which on will last longer? Which one is more fuel efficient? Is there a big cost different to operate these two different engines? I Discuss all of this in the video, please leave your comments down below! Thank you for watching! The above links are my Amazon Affiliate links, as an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. Thank you for supporting my channel!

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@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Get your 3.0L Diesel Fuel Cap here: amzn.to/3EbIxiA
@jakesvideos8204
@jakesvideos8204 Год назад
Do you know if it fits lzo engine as well?
@alflyer9406
@alflyer9406 Год назад
Does this fit 2021 Silverado 3 ltr? Link says it's for Ram
@jakesvideos8204
@jakesvideos8204 Год назад
@@alflyer9406 yes the reviews says it does.
@alex3012red
@alex3012red Год назад
will do, thanks
@larrydavis5988
@larrydavis5988 Год назад
Thank you for breaking down the fuel cost. I am a retired GMC dealer and on the last day I owned my dealership I purchased for myself a 2021 GMC Sierra SLT with the 3.0. The reason I picked the 3.0 diesel over the 6.2 gas was the feedback from my customers and my service technicians. We had zero issues with these motors in the one year that they were available. Chevrolet actually had the motor in 2020 where GMC did not get it until 2021. Since April of 2021 I have driven over 40,000 miles with absolutely no issues. I make regular 900 mile trips to St Augustine Florida and I consistently get over 30 miles per gallon. Unfortunately here in Delaware there is about a $2.00 difference for diesel over regular unleaded right now. I think that difference will narrow when the weather warms up. That won't keep me from trading up to the 2023 3.0 that has more torque and horsepower. In my opinion, if you are towing anything or not, this engine is a no brainer.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Great feedback, thanks for sharing your experience
@richardcam8870
@richardcam8870 Год назад
They don’t make 100k without a lot of down time! I have 114k , 38 trans went out, 93 engine came out to be repaired not replaced, 114 the engine came apart going down the road at 70 mph. 27 mo. Owning 14 mo driving , you tell me I would never buy one , Chevrolet won’t do anything about it!
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 Год назад
@@richardcam8870 That goes against tons of testing and customer experience data out there. Lack of proper maintenance perhaps? Incorrect motor oils?
@higherlifts420
@higherlifts420 Год назад
Now remove the emissions like they should have came
@powderguy8435
@powderguy8435 Год назад
Thanks for your reply. I'm going to buy either a Silverado, Tahoe, or a Yukon Denali 3.0 for traveling across the USA a couple of times, and the MPGs and comfort levels are very attractive. I live in SW Washington State and want to travel around Texas where my Father grew up. I'm thinking about trying to make a deal with a dealer in the Houston area and flying down there and driving around Texas, Louisiana, and Florida before driving back home. I think one of the 3.0s would really shine at this.
@mhurbi
@mhurbi Год назад
I have a 3.0 turbodiesel in my 2014 Porsche Cayenne. I routinely get over 30 mpg driving at 80 mph while the EPA says 29. At 109k miles I have changed zero parts under the hood except for oil and gas filters. Driving experience is way better than gas. Diesel believer here.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Nice to hear! Thanks for sharing
@Land_Raver
@Land_Raver Год назад
Loved my 3.0 Touareg. 26 to 28 mpg. Towed better than my 3.5 ecoboost and got better mpg towing than the f150 unloaded.
@dylangraham5966
@dylangraham5966 Год назад
Me over here with my merc ml 320 blue tech with no tow hitch 😐.
@talonpilot
@talonpilot 3 месяца назад
I have a 2014 Audi A6 with the same engine and average 35+mpg ….but just wait…. The VAG 3.0 diesels have their problems! The motor mounts are probably worn and need to be changed now (at 109k) or will need to be shortly. There is a very common problem of a coolant leak in the valley of the engine which requires complete dismantling of the intake system, EGR system, etc. If you’re not mechanically inclined, this could be very costly, especially for a Porsche (not that an Audi is any cheaper but I did mine myself). Great engines, awesome fuel mileage, very reliable but do need some (expensive) love!
@peltel2222
@peltel2222 Год назад
I like your video. First let me say reliability has been great with my 2022 Escalade. There is no up charge for a diesel option on the Escalade. I live down south. A box of DEF fluid at AutoZone “AutoZone brand “is $11.99 Diesel fuel down here is approximately $4.29 per gallon. So those things being said, it really makes it a solid decision to go with the diesel. Towing is no comparison. Torque is 460 ft lb from just off idle all the way to almost 5k rpm! No other Diesel has this range. Mated to the 10 speed it is an unreal combo. Plus the oil belt issue really isn’t an issue. Who keeps their vehicles that long anyway? If you are one that does, it’s really not that expensive. My dealer says it will cost approximately $1500 to change the belt at 200,000 miles. If the belt goes bad you just go into limp mode. It’s not like a timing belt on an interference engine where everything gets destroyed. The engine is a straight six iron sleeve twin overhead cam design. This is the same as most popular tractor trailers etc. Peterbilt, Detroit diesel etc. it’s a tried and true design. Again the reason for going with this engine is that it is a modern diesel without all of the problems of the old school diesel engines. Smoky loud under powered boat anchors. If you drive one of these 3.0 Duramax’s you are hard-pressed to even hear the diesel sound. Most passengers have no idea they are riding in a diesel powered vehicle.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
You make some good points, thanks for sharing your thoughts!!
@realmil733
@realmil733 Год назад
I'm in ATL and I ordered a Sierra with the diesel. It'll be my first diesel but as you said it makes too much sense. I'm planning on keeping it for a long time so reliability/longevity over the 5.3 was really it.
@alex3012red
@alex3012red Год назад
great video! i have had the chance to own both the 5.3 and the 3.0 on a z71 silverados. i have 25k miles on the diesel and still puts a smile on my face when driving, towing my boat (5500 lbs ) is no problem staying at 65mph uphill, and still getting good mpgs.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@Lorde360
@Lorde360 Год назад
thanks for this. You towing a bass boat? I'm towing a champ with a cateye 5.3 z71 right now. Was thinking of getting a new truck. What'd you think of the 5.3? I'm still on the fence. The 5.3 has been around forever and I would imagine working being able to work on it myself would save a great deal in maintenance.
@hometaughted
@hometaughted Год назад
@@Lorde360I just traded in my 3.0 for a 5.3 because of emissions problems. I loved the 3.0 in every way until it needed service. The engine can go into limp mode at any moment and only give you 250 miles until needing service. You can’t work on this engine yourself. The truck emissions codes can only be serviced by a dealership. I put 55k on my 3.0 before trading it in.
@jos6216
@jos6216 Год назад
Thanks for a great comparison. IMHO, the gov has destroyed the light duty diesel option and if not for the durability and tow capability of diesel engines, they have almost destroyed the mid duty market (2500-5500) as well. We run a fleet of diesels and I love diesels. I am getting a new 1500 to go from job to job (5000-7000 miles per month). Between: 1. Fuel difference average of $1.50 2. DEF issues 3. Maintenance costs We are saving $1000-1300 per month going with gas. The initial vehicle cost is a wash at resale. We run Ram, Duramax and Ford Towing goosenecks with our 2500-5500s. The absolute number one problem after the fuel price difference for this stupid ULSD we all are forced to buy, is DEF Systems. Every single truck we have has issues after they get some miles on them and some at low miles. The stupid gov bureaucracy tried to solve 1 tiny problem and created 100 other big problems and drive up the costs of the trucks. So do I like the 3.0 light duties, absolutely and would love to run a bunch of them, but at the current state, will never ever happen. If it were not for the hauling we have to do, we would sell every single mid duty. BTW, we have issues constantly with our off-road equipment that has DEF as well. The scumbags that dreamed this crap up, should be made to by pay for it and work on it. UNCLE SAM, VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS, and BIG ENERGY, YALL are pathetic!!!!!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@impala-wf2sd
@impala-wf2sd Год назад
I bought a 2021 chevy crew cab Z71 4x4 rst standard bed 3.0 diesel. I paid 1k Xtra for the duramax. I get 34 mpg on the highway all day long. I have not had any mechanical issues & have no regrets. Love my truck
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah that diesel gets better than advertised MPG!
@mrc3458
@mrc3458 Год назад
Good video comparison. I just purchased a 2020 GMC Sierra with a 3.0. Have only had it for 1500 miles. So far, I love the truck. I got 29.82 mpg driving back home from a 300-mile trip. I was really pleased. I'm a seasoned diesel owner. Two previous 6.6 Duramax Silverado's. I loved them, but diesels can have problems as they all can. The diesel problems usually happen in the exhaust which may be expensive. I purchased a warranty that covers the ruck for 5 years. Crossing my fingers. I'm hoping it will be a reliable truck for me.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah the emissions stuff is a concern for me as well
@craigcontofalsky4387
@craigcontofalsky4387 Год назад
I have a 2019 Yukon XL 5.3 V8 with 4wd and tow package 3.42 axle ratio. I consistently get 23-25 mpg on my highway trips. 27.4 mpg was my best. I've driven over 600 miles with 3 gals left. My speed was 70 mph most of the trip. Here's the kicker. It was in manual 5th gear so it never ran in the V4 mode. It locks out the AFM if you use fifth gear. Rpm is 2,200 at 70 mph. The engine never switches back and forth between V4-V8. I drive it all the time in 5th gear. City and highway. I'm trying to eliminate excess wear on the hydraulic lifters.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah those lifters can be problematic. Thanks for sharing
@charlesclark127
@charlesclark127 Год назад
I have been driving a 2021 Silverado LT Crew Cab with the 3.0 Duramax for almost 2 years. With rear wheel drive, it's rated at 33 highway. I live in California and there is much elevation change in most trips. I regularly get 30-33 highway when driving around 70 and smooth technique. I have one of my trip odometers still running at over 18K miles, with my overall average at 26.2. Most of my driving is around town with regular freeway trips also. That's spectacular, considering that I make a lot of short trips and idle with the A/C on a lot in warmer weather. The thing that wasn't mentioned in this test, is that this 3 liter 6 cyl. diesel will waste a 5.3 at the stoplights (0-60). I've kept up with Dodge hemis and 6.2 equipped pickups. It will also keep up with or outrun the Ecoboost Fords that are known for good acceleration. I'm timing my truck in the mid to high sixes in the 0-60. What a fun and at the same time, economical truck!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@joe-j3p7l
@joe-j3p7l 11 дней назад
I own a 2015 Tahoe with the 5.3 L V8. At 92,000 Miles, the lifters on the AFM cylinders failed and we needed a block. This is a common issue on this motor. At that mileage, the injectors also need to be replaced for about $1K. The car had an extended warranty, still cost me about $4,000 to fix and the shop had my Tahoe for 4 months. I like the diesel since it is a tried-and-true design in trucks, but all the emission controls worry me about longevity, I am also concerned with costly diesel repairs. I believe this would be a better motor with the EGR, DPF, DEF, and SCR removed. The 3.0L Duramax has a longer warranty
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 11 дней назад
Yeah those are all good points
@MrJockoDundee
@MrJockoDundee Год назад
Good job. Don't forget the ~$1,500 cost to replace the timing belt in the 3.0 at 150k miles. Regardless, I have the 3.0 and bought it after owning the 2.8L minimax in my Canyon in 2017. Still own it too.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Any issues with your 3.0?
@MrJockoDundee
@MrJockoDundee Год назад
@@Myksgarage No, just 4k miles on it. Will start towing the boat in a few weeks; so, that should provide more info.
@solis4920
@solis4920 Год назад
I love my 21 3.0 diesel 1500 25k miles of towing and no issues at all truck Outperform’s my 2019 5.3 on every aspect mpg and power.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good to hear your experience! Thanks for sharing
@got_gt3612
@got_gt3612 Год назад
From a personal experience, GMC 5.3l made 130k mi and need engine replacement (valve lifter spring broke and damage everything) . So far I have 50k mi on GMC 3.0 diesel with no problem. I drive 50/50 city/highway and my average gas mileage was 14 on a diesel it’s 24 Towing my trailer with car : gas 10 mpg diesel 18 mpg going 85mph I vote diesel.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience. Good to hear a perspective of someone who has owned both
@kaivonmortazavi8656
@kaivonmortazavi8656 Год назад
I was on the fence for a long time but eventually the trim I selected (Tahoe Z71) dictated the gas engine. I chose the 6.2L for towing needs over the 5.3L. Based on miles driven per year, fuel cost differential (Premium vs Diesel), DEF charges and the higher cost of two oil changes a year, the savings was not significant enough for me to go with the Diesel though I think its a great engine. I just wish they could have fitted the 3.0L in the Z71 Tahoe.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience, it's nice there are some great engine options!
@TreadReview
@TreadReview Год назад
The ultimate would have been the Z71 w the Diesel imho. But, ultimately the Diesel won out for us.
@philipjohnson882
@philipjohnson882 Год назад
Yeah unfortunately the 3.0 is to long for the tahoe z71
@TreadReview
@TreadReview Год назад
I decided it was better to have the mpg, and one can always modify a regular Tahoe to be more like the Z71.
@joeharnish719
@joeharnish719 Год назад
With emissions on the diesel right now I wouldn't buy either.
@hahaadventures4838
@hahaadventures4838 Год назад
In this case ya gotta go diesel! That 3.0 Dmax is a spectacular and super reliable diesel engine that gets great mpgs! My 3.0 out tows my 6.4 Hemi gasser and gets 5 more mpgs towing and 13 more empty! Oil changes on my 3.0 Dmax are $50 less than my 6.4 Hemi too! The 5.3 will eat the cam and lifters up! Stay away from the gasser!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I totally agree! Thanks for watching!
@Oneshawdog89
@Oneshawdog89 Год назад
Diesel fuel is over $6 a gallon in Cali 🤨
@thomaspuma434
@thomaspuma434 Год назад
This is what I needed to learn from you about this Duramax Diesel Thank you
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
👍
@johntaylor211
@johntaylor211 Год назад
I towed a donzi 22 classic up to Atlanta and then out to San Diego from naples fl. Over 6000 miles round trip. I averaged 21.9 mpg. I used approx 4 gallons of def. My gas 5.3 got 14 mpg towing the same boat.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good to hear about your experience! 3.0L Diesel FTW!
@beddozo
@beddozo Год назад
I put a titan 52 gal tank in my 2500hd San Fran to Tampa stopped for diesel 3 times LOVE IT !
@hadleycontractor496
@hadleycontractor496 6 месяцев назад
Why do they burn so much def towing. It’s disproportionate to the mpg drop
@kylemlm
@kylemlm Год назад
I take my dog to work and keep the vehicle running at job site meetings with Doberman sleeping in the back. The Diesel has heavy duty everything and doesn't burn as much fuel idling. I have PPV Tahoe which is fantastic for this condition but like switch to 3.0 Suburban with nice ride quality.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah this would be a nice vehicle for your situation
@xplmr1
@xplmr1 Год назад
Another cost to factor in against the diesel is the fuel filters. In all of my diesels (6.7 liter Cummins, 3.0 eco diesel) you change the fuel filter every two oil changes or around 10K miles. That won't stop me from opting for the diesel. The main pro for the diesel option to me is fuel-ups are few and far between. Thanks for the video!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point
@josephharvey5742
@josephharvey5742 Год назад
GM recommends changing the fuel filter at 30,000 miles on their 3.0 diesel.
@badawesome
@badawesome Год назад
@@josephharvey5742 Ram recommends fuel filter change at 30,000 miles also
@tylerkraemer
@tylerkraemer 9 месяцев назад
Only 1 filter to change on this engine vs 2 on the 6.7 Cummins. And the filter is fairly inexpensive and it’s even easier to change than on a Ram it appears.
@xplmr1
@xplmr1 9 месяцев назад
@@tylerkraemer I hope so because I bought a '23 YukonXL Diesel. Loving the mileage. Getting a solid 19-20 around town and 27-28 on the highway loaded to the gills with 4 people and enough luggage that it almost doesn't fit with the 3rd row folded down. Best mileage I've got is 27.2 mpg over 450 miles, 36 mpg over 50 miles, and 43.5 mpg over a 25 mile stint. This is with a vehicle that just rolled over 4k miles. It had less than 1k miles before the trip. Couldn't be happier.
@vry2116
@vry2116 Год назад
Thank you sir. I am considering a diesel engine for the first time and you’ve given me some valuable insight 🙏🏽
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thank you, best of luck!
@wallyman8
@wallyman8 11 месяцев назад
Good simple comparison. Thanks
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@decline1129
@decline1129 Год назад
Less trips to the pump is a major plus imo. I came to a Yukon Denali from a model x where I never went to the pump.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Gotta love those Teslas!!
@caleblewis3463
@caleblewis3463 8 месяцев назад
Owning both... Just get the 10 speed transmission. Both engines are great. The 3.0 is a great option. Remember diesel engines will rotate less rpm to generate the same energy so the components on diesel’s generally last longer.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 8 месяцев назад
Good point!
@OscarRodriguez78
@OscarRodriguez78 5 месяцев назад
Great breakdown. I have the 2023 Yukon Denali with this engine. You forgot to emphasize the range. I recently came back from a trip and I got 575 miles off of one fill up. Bad thing is I’m dealing with Stabilitrack issues now 😂. I think it might be due to bad biodiesel after sitting too long since it’s not my daily driver. So thanks for the fuel filter video too, going to try that.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@anthonyvirgadamo898
@anthonyvirgadamo898 Год назад
Great advice. I’m a 6.2 V8 man for pulling my camper, I’ve had several diesel dating back to 1982, fords and Chevy and the converted Oldsmobile diesel
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
That 6.2L is a nice engine!
@FriendlyManitoban
@FriendlyManitoban 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the helpful breakdown. 👍👍
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching
@tizo86
@tizo86 Год назад
Thank you for the break down. I am excited to get the diesel.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@TheBrettMizer
@TheBrettMizer 6 дней назад
When the car is out of warranty you can delete the diesel exhaust fluid and it's a lot cheaper to buy it at the pumps when available
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 6 дней назад
Good tips!
@eduardordgz1824
@eduardordgz1824 Год назад
Myks, excellent cost breakdown. I did the same research and finally got myself a 2023 GMC Sierra 1500 Denali with a 3.0 Duramax. To my luck, I've had two check engine lights at 600 and 800 miles. This is my first diesel and GM vehicle. Hopefully, with the parts replacement, I can get as good a reliability/longevity results as others have stated. To those that want to know what code came up, it was a P0402 with an Emissions System alert on the GMC application/Diagnostics txt.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@Kben01
@Kben01 Год назад
Emissions systems are literally the worst things on these.
@Marvin-fn7ks
@Marvin-fn7ks Год назад
Thank you for this comparison . I live in rural Saskatchewan Canada and have had diesel engines in my life forever. I currently own a2020 Ram longhorn EX Crew 4x4 Eco Diesel which is my second one after a 2016 . We also own a 2020 lexus RX 450 H . Most of our trips are 15 to 200 miles. The Ram always exceeded the Lexus in fuel economy 32 to 26 MPG US gal while weighing nearly twice as much We used to be always about 5 % cheaper for diesel until this last year. I really don’t understand why diesel is more expensive now other than government intervention and ??? . I’m sad to see that Ram is discontinuing the 3.0 diesel . I think this big shift to electric is way ahead of infrastructure and battery technology. Government knows best ,RIGHT !!!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah unfortunately i think these diesels are in their way out
@louislalumiere2270
@louislalumiere2270 Год назад
here in canada , they all blow-up. They dont like to run cold
@BrianNC81
@BrianNC81 Год назад
Gas is $2.99 diesel $4.99 here. Not saving money with our 3.0 suburban but I don't have to worry about collapsed lifters.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yes good point
@grouchosays
@grouchosays 2 месяца назад
Exactly!!! Is it true that lifters are not a problem with diesel?
@nmtz91
@nmtz91 Год назад
In Houston gas is @2.89 And diesel is @4.29 Big difference My 2022 5.3 with the 10 speed Sierra gets me @25 miles per gallon going 75-80mph My father in law 2021 Denali 3.0 diesel gets him @29 miles per gallon not a big difference Where the diesel does shine is when towing a 7k trailer compared to mine
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@dalelong4716
@dalelong4716 Год назад
All the roads in Houston must be going downhill, everyone I know with the 5.3 including my son average 22 or less going 75 mph on the interstate.
@BabyBang17datruth
@BabyBang17datruth 5 месяцев назад
When buying my 2024 1500 elevation, I initially wanted the 5.3 V8. I was picky of what color, package, and interior I wanted. The only engine options that was out there for what I wanted was the 3.0 diesel. I was like hey I’ll just get it and sacrifice my V8 option. And I’m glad I did! Great mpg and the fuel costs around my area isn’t as high for diesel. I’m actually saving $$$ with fewer fill ups.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 5 месяцев назад
Good feedback
@calank923
@calank923 Год назад
The price difference comes in on the extra maintenance cost to own a diesel. The sad truth is it just cost way more to maintain a diesel. I’m a diesel mechanic and have always owned hd trucks with diesel engines. For the first time in my life I bought a half ton gasser 2023 rst with a 5.3. I’ve seen 25.4 mpg best on 50 mile highway runs and 23 average highway. Def is ruining diesel engine and destroying very expensive injectors it’s not worth it unless you are towing heavy at this day and age. They just don’t make them like the 12v Cummins anymore
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@grouchosays
@grouchosays 2 месяца назад
But doesn’t the V8 have a lifter problem? I’m thinking of buying a V8 Yukon and just learned that this is destroying engines.
@dgiturbo3247
@dgiturbo3247 Год назад
Every time I use a gas vehicle I am upset how many trips to refuel I have to make. When I drive my diesel vehicle, I have to think, when was the last time I filled this thing up.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point!
@willb7975
@willb7975 Год назад
I am in the 1 ton, ir F350 6.7 powerstroke world, but yiu should factor in cost if maintenance between gas and diesel to give more context of owning each. Great capture of metrics in just fuel and mpg data.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah I need to do that next. Thanks for watching!
@utgreenhead
@utgreenhead Год назад
One thing you didn’t talk about that makes a big difference for me is; time and frustration. The Yukon XL has a 28 gallon fuel tank. Using your math (and assuming every tank was run empty before fueling) the 5.3 would need to refuel 188 times. The 3.0 would refuel 133 times. That’s 55 less trips to the pump. If the average fill up takes 7 minutes, that’s an extra 6.4 hours spent at the pump over 100k miles. Time is money in my business. Plus the frustration of gas burners always pulling up and blocking the only diesel pump when there are 5 open gas pumps. And yes; I will call you out for it and make sure you know how inconsiderate you are of other people! The fewer times I stop, the less frustration I have in my life…
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I never considered that, good point!
@jdvid007
@jdvid007 Год назад
I have put 94,000 miles on my 21 Silverado inline 6. Engine has been flawless. Def tank had to be replaced after 6 different trips to the dealer. Of course not in stock so had to wait almost 2 months with a loaner. Now the Catalitic Converter is out according to dealership. $1,400 not covered in my extended warranty. I'm averaging 24 mpg with several hundred lbs. Of tools on board. Most of those miles are going 82 mph. Still like the truck just wish I could delete the emissions system. Then it would be a GREAT truck.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good to hear from someone with some real miles on their truck!
@jdvid007
@jdvid007 Год назад
Having said that, I put 406,000 miles on my 06 Silverado 5.3 and it never needed major work. I plan to put 250K on this one. Hopefully...
@watchmanexpert
@watchmanexpert Год назад
@@jdvid007 how is u 3.0 now ? Did u fixed the problem ? Any issue? How many miles now ? I have 5.7 v8 2010 and want buy 3.0 Duramax but will be my first diesel, I am little scared
@firemanbob1994
@firemanbob1994 Год назад
What about regular maintenance? Oil change and filters? Cost/frequency?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I made another video that goes through those items ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vnv-6j-TVbs.htmlsi=y2_Qq4AVtue_Vmu4
@slocavky
@slocavky Год назад
I have a 2021 Silverado 1500 with the 3.0. I absolutely love the thing. My favorite powertrain I've ever had. also with the 5.3 STILL has that stupid lifter dropping issues with the AFM junk. GM V8s are so bad with that stuff on them.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah that's a good point! The 3.0l is awesome. And now with the new LZ0 coming out it will be even better!
@peltel2222
@peltel2222 Год назад
I second that. I think the 3.0 and the 10 speed is the best powertrain ever in a half ton suv/truck.
@grouchosays
@grouchosays 2 месяца назад
@@Myksgaragewhat’s the LZO
@hartfischer5509
@hartfischer5509 Год назад
More range, more longevity, saving $4000 over 20 years, and much more at a more reasonable Diesel price differential. Very interesting : )
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for your comment
@jtjtrs8806
@jtjtrs8806 Год назад
Diesel prices went crazy
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Heck yes!
@Ur504Cuban
@Ur504Cuban Год назад
I consistently get 30mpg on mine. 2022 GMC Sierra SLT 4×4 3.0 Turbo Duramax
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thats soild!!
@rohw0016
@rohw0016 2 месяца назад
I test drove a new 2024 GMC with the new V8 and then I test drove a used 2022 GMC with the 3.0 LM2 it was night and day in terms of the drive experience. I chose the diesel .
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 2 месяца назад
Good feedback, thanks for sharing
@RD-999.M41
@RD-999.M41 Год назад
I also do fuel efficiency comparisons with my 2021 Silverado 3.0 and my wifes 2021 Tahoe 5.3. Both are 4x4 Z71 models. I normally calculate it by each gas tank, and I calculate it by the mile. In my area, my truck at best was 17 cents a mile, and my wifes Tahoe was 22 cents a mile. Of course, understanding that the Tahoe most likely weighs 800 lbs or more than the truck. Although gas and diesel are getting cheaper, the average cost will get better. I still feel the diesel is the better choice for fuel efficiency.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing
@lem141
@lem141 Год назад
I would add to your cost comparison that there is about a $90 difference in the cost of the oil change. The diesel is just more expensive. Also, don’t forget the cost of the fuel filter change as well. I own both a Tahoe with the 3.0l diesel and a Silverado 1500 with the 5.3l. Hands down the better powertrain is the 3.0l diesel for performance and the torque, but I think the cost of ownership and fueling is pretty similar.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point!
@CdpOper
@CdpOper Год назад
Most bs I see all the time. Most sissy 5.3 or 6.2 gas go 3000 miles for oil change and the diesel is at least 7500 miles or up to 10000 miles if you don’t tow a lot. Unless you’re moronic and have dealers change it for you and they gouge you. I buy DEF in 55 gallon drums and save a ton compared to the jugs of over priced stuff at gas stations. Also the stuff in drums is a good quality DEF. My 2500weighs 9000 lbs loaded and can get regularly 20 mpg. My friend has same truck gas best he’s ever done was 12 mpg. Keep drinking the kool-Aid on gas republican fat cat oil ceo appreciate their massive profits.
@gleanerman2195
@gleanerman2195 Год назад
@@CdpOper I have ran gas and diesel with diesel for the last 20 years, as long as I tow which is 99% of the time, I will never go back to gas, the day I don't tow anymore, then gas will be my only choice.
@rickmcneal1660
@rickmcneal1660 Год назад
His experience with resale reflects what I've seen with my diesel trucks. So, he should really adjust his cost numbers because the higher price one pays for a diesel truck is returned in the resale value.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point
@Bostonharborwater
@Bostonharborwater Год назад
I prefer the simplicity of a gas. Less chance of issues for me. My truck pulls my 8500 lb boat no sweat. But to each their own.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yes
@weber_with1B
@weber_with1B Год назад
Which gas engine do you have??
@robertlamky1332
@robertlamky1332 19 часов назад
I think the only thing I would have changed is to depreciate the cost of the diesel over it's expected life span. The savings in operating costs would be a little more in favour of the 3.0
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 11 часов назад
Yeah good point
@wyattearp1418
@wyattearp1418 Год назад
Thank you for the comparison. I want he Z71, but I want the Diesel engine. The High Country, doesn’t have black seats,and I don’t like the selection. Now I have to figure out what model I want with the diesel engine.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good luck with your choice!
@davidporter7051
@davidporter7051 Год назад
I went from a 6.2 1500 to a 3.0 1500 the mpg is about 25% better and diesel costs less than unleaded here. It's definitely a lot less than premium which the 6.2 recommends. Diesel for me is the way to go
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience!
@verajavi12
@verajavi12 Год назад
I don't get all this hype.5 years ago I bought a low mile 2008 tahoe 5.3 for 9 thousand dollars. I've driven the hell out of it with no problems what's so ever.i think my total $ investment compared to any of these new junk I'm way lower in $ rape.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point!
@williamconrad1087
@williamconrad1087 Год назад
My brother-in-law went from the 6.6 diesel to 6.2 gas. Then to the 5.3 and the one he liked best was 6.2 gas.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
The 6.2 is a good engine
@gleanerman2195
@gleanerman2195 Год назад
Then he wasn't towing like I do 99% of the time, my 6.6 Duramax will kill the gasser in every way. Duramax is KING.
@Forever_Broken2023
@Forever_Broken2023 Год назад
Great video and breakdown!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for watching
@jwalter75
@jwalter75 9 месяцев назад
What's the oil change and fuel filter change cost in comparison to the 5.3L? That should be added into your comparison to be more accurate.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 9 месяцев назад
Here's the maintenance video I made ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vnv-6j-TVbs.htmlsi=xk7DVCOLsgObhACy
@jwalter75
@jwalter75 9 месяцев назад
@@Myksgarage thanks! I hadn't seen that video before I commented so I'm glad you shared it. I'm so interested in the 3.0L, and even if if it comes out even or slightly more for the cost of ownership, I'll still select it over the other options. Take care and Merry Christmas!
@peternewman3215
@peternewman3215 Год назад
Be cool if Fuel filters, and oil change difference cost was factored. I know we can't cover "All" cost. But that seemed a bit standard to add. Thank for putting this together, great watch.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I did do a maintenance comparison in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vnv-6j-TVbs.html
@RenaissanceThinking
@RenaissanceThinking Год назад
How do the numbers hold up when you factor in the cost of oil changes and general maintenance?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I'll do a video on this shortly
@davidboverhof2779
@davidboverhof2779 Год назад
By me right now diesel is $4.00 while gas is $4.20... Never thought I'd see the day when gas is more expensive
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah it's definitely nice having a diesel right now!
@russellmoore6705
@russellmoore6705 Год назад
Curious if GM is going to change to the LZ0 new 3.0 duramax in the Yukon, Tahoe and Escalade like they did in the Silverado and the sierra that’s now 305 hp and 495 ftlbs instead of this one with 277 hp and 460 ftlbs
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah it will be interesting to see when that change happens
@mattseverance8176
@mattseverance8176 Месяц назад
Yes. They are for 2025.
@theodoresiler47
@theodoresiler47 Год назад
I have had my 3.0 Silverado for just over a year and love it. I have gotten just over 38 mpg on a 50 mile average but was actively trying to see how good I could get it. Normal interstate is 28-33 mpg. If you don't take trips of 50-70 miles at least a couple of times a month the diesel is not for you it must be driven on decent trips every so often to allow the DEF to do its job. So if this is for trips to the store it is not for you. One calculation you failed to show is value when you trade it in. Normally diesel motors hold a better price so that 900 at the start will be paid back unless the motor turns out to be a dud.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@gerrylaflamme2178
@gerrylaflamme2178 Год назад
I also have a silverado RST 3.0. I get 6.1 litres per 100 kilometers on the hwy. Very satisfied with it. I believe that's about 35 mpg. I get 1200km or 745mi. Gerry
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
That is very good!! Thanks for sharing
@romadzero
@romadzero Год назад
Wasn’t sure if you factor in cost of fuel filter and cost for oil changes also the 100k belt replacement in the rear of the engine which on average is $1200 for that service by dealership
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
The oil belt change has an interval of 150k miles, but I didn't factor that or other maintenance into the equation.
@ZmannR2
@ZmannR2 Год назад
It’s 150k belt actually.
@Masonplays963
@Masonplays963 Год назад
Biggest problem for me was that the exhaust system isn't included in any extended warranty regardless of the company. After 36,000 miles, you're on your own. There's just too much $$$ at risk for some random exhaust issue. Many common issues run in the thousands of dollars to fix. Love the engine, but hate the exhaust requirements.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah that is a problem!
@zackjay71
@zackjay71 Год назад
Delete
@ladin425
@ladin425 Год назад
Federal law covers you for 8 years/ 80K for emissions. Unless I'm missing something.
@Masonplays963
@Masonplays963 Год назад
@@ladin425 Not for DEF components. They are considered part of the 24,000 mile requirement. It also states that in the GM warranty. Emission control and emission related parts are covered for the first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use (whichever first occurs); and • Specified major emission control components are covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use (whichever first occurs). From the GM Warranty Book. Light Duty Car or Truck Emissions-related components are warranted for 2 years of 24,000 miles, whichever comes first Select emissions-related components are warranted for 8 years or 80,000 miles, whichever comes first. Covered components include: catalytic converters, engine control module, transmission control module and other diagnostic-emissions-critical electronic control units The list of "select" components covered for 8/80,000 doesn't include most of the major problem prone parts of the DEF system. Things not covered after the bumper to bumper: Particulate filter, DEF sensors, DEF tank, DEF heater, etc.
@jeffw6894
@jeffw6894 Год назад
Unfortunately, the emission control systems on modern diesels are your reason not to buy ome.
@rjpmd1
@rjpmd1 Год назад
Well those numbers seem realistic to my experience of owning a 3.0 but the biggest difference is I believe is the commuter everyday driving. I get 23 or better mpg everyday driving 20/30 miles a day. I’ve never gotten more the 15 mpg from a gm 5.3 in that regard. Plus this bad boy gets 16 mpg towing our Rv.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience
@patriot8087
@patriot8087 Год назад
Factor in Oil change cost and you might see a significant difference between the gas and diesel Oil change and filter costs.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah I need to figure those costs as well
@nalong55
@nalong55 5 месяцев назад
I'd recommend the second gen variant of this motor. On this version you have remove the transmission to change the timing chain/belt @ 150k miles
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 5 месяцев назад
I believe the 2nd gen has the same requirement, and it’s not available until 2025 model year
@kevinmartin5375
@kevinmartin5375 Год назад
My son has had two GM vehicles with the 3.0 litre diesel and he averaged way better than posted mileage. He pulls heavy trailers and it hardly affected his mileage. Average over 15000 kilometers was 8.2 liters per 100 kilometers or 28 mpg. Again that includes pulling trailers. A 5.3 liter will never be that consistent.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for sharing some real world experiences
@Slane583
@Slane583 Год назад
For me I am currently leasing a 2020 Silverado with a Turbo-4 in it. Mechanical wise the engine in my truck as been trouble free so far but it also barely has any miles on it. Any problems I have had have mainly been related to sensors and anything computer related. Luckily enough it was all stuff that had a recall and was replaced for free under warranty. As much as I like the 5.3 it is mainly the OLD 3rd Gen 5.3 in my previous 2004 Silverado that I liked because they were bulletproof. The later models especially the current ones are not good. I don't like the thought of my trucks engine potentially eating its' lifters while I'm just driving to the store or going to a friends house. I have one more year of my lease to go before it is up and if I decide to go with something different over staying with what I already have I was considering the 3.0 Duramax diesel. From what info I have seen about the 3.0 it has been relatively trouble free besides a hard start issue some people were originally having and the worry about the oil belt. Both of which have been fixed for the 2023 model year as GM has found a solution for the hard start problem and they reassessed the dependability of the oil belt and have upped its' mileage for when it needs changing. The DEF is usually not an issue because it's not filled as frequently as your diesel fuel is from what I know. I am also not worried about oil changes as I am already in the habit of buying the best oil and filter I can get my hands on. I can afford expensive oil and filters. I can't afford expensive engine problems if one were to happen due to junk oil. From what I've seen I think the 3.0 also comes standard with a block heater for winter use which is also nice. :)
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
You make some good points, thanks for sharing your perspective
@Slane583
@Slane583 Год назад
@@Myksgarage You are welcome. I have always wanted a diesel pickup in the past but diesels always only ever came in big pickups made for heavy pulling. So unless you moved around large equipment or big loads you don't need a 3500. Now they offer a diesel in the standard 1500 line of trucks that offers good power and towing ability. I love my Turbo-4 but if I can switch to something that is less likely to have issues down the line when miles are added on I'll go that route. Getting my hands on a good diesel in the future that isn't a giant v8 is a big plus. It's even nicer knowing that GM was smart to go with an inline-6 over making it into some compact v6 model. Also, as another person pointed out in a video about the 3.0, the turbo on it is liquid cooled. So it uses the engine coolant to keep temps within spec. The turbo on it should be far more reliable on it than a standard turbo. :)
@larryj8924
@larryj8924 Год назад
I hear good things about the little 2.7 4cyl turbo base motor. On paper it has more torque than 5.3 and fuel mileage is 22mpg hwy.
@Slane583
@Slane583 Год назад
@@larryj8924 So far it has been great. The only actual issues that I have had were all related to sensors and computer based junk. But the problems I had ended up having a recall on them so the parts were replaced for free under warranty. When I first got the truck we had the bed spray-lined before I hauled anything in it as part of the lease deal. After the spray-lining was done we went and got a large enough load of decomposing wood chips to make it squat a little and it hauled it just fine. There was no struggling or having a hard time getting up to speed. It drove as if there was nothing in it. Since mine is a 2020 it's rated for being able to pull 7,500lbs. I think newer model 2.7's have a higher towing capacity. As for fuel mileage, I tend to average about 16'ish mpg. My town is nothing but stop signs, intersections and hills. So the driving conditions aren't the best for fuel mileage. I still have one year left to my lease so from now to then there will probably be something else out by that time.
@randallchapman5742
@randallchapman5742 Год назад
For the second 100K on the gas engine you forgot the tune-up charge. Appreciate your presentation.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah I'll need to do a maintenance comparison next
@randallchapman5742
@randallchapman5742 Год назад
I watched another video on the engine and apparently there is an internal belt for driving the oil pump that needs to be replaced every 150K and the transmission has to be pulled to do that. Seems like a pretty good engine though.
@ipecruz4616
@ipecruz4616 4 месяца назад
What do you think about for city driving? Which one would be better, say to drive for Limousine?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 4 месяца назад
Diesel
@rickcrownover
@rickcrownover Год назад
Great video, now compare how much service cost (oil change) for each vehicle. I think you will find the diesel is much more expensive.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yes, I will make a service video
@jeffw6894
@jeffw6894 Год назад
Yeah exactly, I appreciate your efforts in this video. However, you also need to calculate cost of routine maintenance, which as a former diesel owner is almost double the V8.
@llerradish
@llerradish Год назад
Do you have to buy def fluid for the diesel? That needs to be figured into the mpg. What about the coast of belt maintenance on the diesel?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yes the DEF was figured into the cost
@johnhill4709
@johnhill4709 Год назад
I like your video! As someone has already mentioned you need to factor in maintenance costs. I'm on the fence and can't decide for a 1500 truck. The one thing keeping me away from going with the diesel is the concern with fuel quality. If you're not careful you can go to a quality fuel station and still end up with too much water. From what I've been told it is best to (mostly) go to fuel stations frequented by diesel trucks.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I think the maintenance costs are very close, both will need an oil change every 5-7k miles, and the diesel will need the fuel filter more frequently.
@realmil733
@realmil733 Год назад
I work in the oil industry and I'll tell you that is a major issue with gas as well. Biggest thing is to avoid filling from stations when their tanks are low.
@johnhill4709
@johnhill4709 Год назад
@@realmil733 thanks for the reply. I’ve heard of that before but just not as much as with diesel. But I’d believe it!
@tjsullivan4793
@tjsullivan4793 Год назад
@@realmil733 Thanks for the tip but there seems no way to know this unless I guess you work at that station?
@kabbythedog9409
@kabbythedog9409 Год назад
@@tjsullivan4793 if you’re that worried about it they know how much fuel they have in those tanks and yes it’s in gasoline as well so 🤷‍♂️
@tempestv8
@tempestv8 Год назад
The oil pump drive belt at the rear of the engine requires the transmission to be removed to replace it every 150,000 miles The cost of doing this is approximately USD$1300 (parts and labour)
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
That's not bad
@TurkVladimir
@TurkVladimir Год назад
Thanks Great Video
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks
@colinfitzgerald4332
@colinfitzgerald4332 Год назад
At 4200 ft elevation could be one of the reasons for your better than stated mpg with the turbo diesel.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
True....
@guojiefan5380
@guojiefan5380 Год назад
I’m still on fence even thought I have a 5.3 V8 already. I drive about 170 miles per day,90% of highway and never tow. Daily fuel cost is $22/day depends on I’ll go for E10 or pure gas on the day. I’ve learnt that you will pay less on fuel but you have to add up things like DEF,more expensive maintenance,insurance and even parts whenever you have to fix it. Hopefully someone could bring these all up to give us a more detailed picture
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Thanks for watching
@THeSPARTEnMORTER21
@THeSPARTEnMORTER21 Год назад
ive thought about the difference between gas vs diesel, it really comes down to cost of fuel in your area and if your towing a majority of the time. yes you will get more mpg per gallon of diesel vs gas but the cost is what kills any gains. At the time when i did this comparison, gas was low $4 and Diesel was around $6. i compared a GMC Sierra 5.3 to the 3.0 and the 5.3 is what i would choose. Diesel is almost $2 more then gas here in PA, for the same price of filling up a tank of Diesel about $125 for 21gallons, filling up the gas was about $85 for 21gallons, with the difference in cost, i could us that remaining $40 and buy nearly another 9-10gallons of gas. This would give me the ability to driver more miles in the 5.3 than the 3.0 while spending the same amount of money at the pump. con would be having to fill up more for gas but your going farther for the same $. Take into consideration, theres also more costs associated with Diesel - Def Fluid and most people forget the diesel engine costs more then the 5.3, but less then the 6.2. as i said, it comes down to personal preference, for me and what i would use a truck for, it wouldnt make sense to go with the diesel.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah at $2/gallon difference, it doesn't make sense to go with the diesel
@PoisonShot20
@PoisonShot20 8 месяцев назад
About the cost to replace the wet belt on the 3.0 ? Transmission need to be removed to do the job, Also the cost of engine oil for the diesel is higher, fuel filter.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 8 месяцев назад
All true
@gianpieroperez
@gianpieroperez Год назад
You didn't talk about the costs associated with oil changes and maintenance
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Its about the same on either vehicle
@CSRacingUSA
@CSRacingUSA Год назад
Considering the maintenance cost, the oil change is higher for the diesel, however much less in parts.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yes, good point
@daniellynn-b9t
@daniellynn-b9t 10 месяцев назад
the big factor left out is the 150,000 mile maintenance of the diesel. all things being equal, the 150k chain maintenance may cancel out all savings in fuel cost if not more. i wuuld love a baby diesel, but im not buying now and hopefully when i do those factors will levelize more.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 10 месяцев назад
This video was simply a fuel cost comparison, I did another video on the maintenance costs
@TheSupersensei
@TheSupersensei Год назад
Great video. Thanks. Looking at a Silverado diesel
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good choice!
@markkester9954
@markkester9954 Год назад
Also maintenance on fuel filter costs and the oil cost more ,,, plus at 100,000 miles the oil pump belt needs replacing at approximately 1200.00-1500.00 dollars have to remove transmission to replace,,, add that to the next 100,000 miles !!!
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Fuel filters are cheap, and you also have to replace the fuel filter in a gas vehicle as well. Oil pump belt has a service life of around 150,000 miles
@georgebullard8224
@georgebullard8224 Год назад
Ty, so maybe a non lifted SLT or Denali on Michelin zLtx could see 30 mpg ??
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Probably, check out my latest mpg video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f5hzLLgDNw8.html
@renurenovationsllc7780
@renurenovationsllc7780 6 месяцев назад
The biggest difference is oil changes cost, about double. And fuel filters, which is significant.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 6 месяцев назад
Which is weird because this diesel takes less oil than the 5.3L V8 Gas engine
@renurenovationsllc7780
@renurenovationsllc7780 6 месяцев назад
@@Myksgarage I just looked at another review. Something weird is going on, thought he said it was more oil on the 3.0….
@grouchosays
@grouchosays 2 месяца назад
You mean the diesel costs more for oil changes?
@dannymichaels4358
@dannymichaels4358 Год назад
I get a kick out of seeing this. Even though I've had my 3.0 GMC for about 1.5 yrs and 35,000 miles, I still make the comparison to my wifes Tahoe with the 5.3. My experience overall has been similar to the comparisons you make, with the 3.0 working out a little better in terms of straight up fuel efficiency. However, I think for some, the gap may be little closer than what you're showing. Of course, this is largely driven by (a) general fuel prices and (b) whether or not Premium is used. The other couple things to consider is (1) Fuel filters. Going to replace those every 20-25K miles on the 3.0. Can do it yourself for less than $100. Shops want double that. IF you're towing most of the time, the fuel efficiency on the 3.0 drops off considerably. In fact, it's within 1 or 2 MPG to the 5.3 hauling the same load (or worse, the same as my former Tundra). BUT, the amount of effort the 3.0 puts towards hauling that same load feels much less. I consider that to be valuable - but hard to put a calculated $ on. In general... even if its a wash, I also get a kick out of being able to drive 700 miles without refueling, regardless of whether I stop or not.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
So which do you prefer?
@dannymichaels4358
@dannymichaels4358 Год назад
@@Myksgarage For now, I'm still liking the diesel better. My only reservation is for the unknown. Sure, there's a few folks out there with 100K plus miles already... but it's such a small sampling that it's tough to really get a full view of how well the LM2 or LZO is going to hold up. With the 5.3 (or most any LS based platform), I know what it is, what it isn't, what it will/won't do, how to resolve things, etc. The other thing is... and it's got nothing to do with performance, is for most - stepping out of the norm for fueling. For so many, making that transition from gas to diesel could result in a fairly pricey mistake. They really have to be deliberate about grabbing that diesel nozzle in lieu of 87 or whatever... habits!
@antonfischersr638
@antonfischersr638 9 месяцев назад
You didn’t calculate service cost between the two. Like oil changes which are more for diesel than gas, additives to fuel on diesel for winter and summer.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 9 месяцев назад
Yeah, this was just mpg comparison
@ralfmuller715
@ralfmuller715 7 месяцев назад
Interesting review. One thing I'm interested in is inspection/repair costs. Any ideas on that?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 7 месяцев назад
I will have to do some more research
@dickmadison9619
@dickmadison9619 Год назад
Are short trips around town really a deterrent to the 3.0? I'm always hearing it needs to be driven lots of miles, etc. but it makes me wonder if GM thinks differently by offering it in SUVs. I am guessing you will see it in more sedans as the electrics fad begins to fade. Maybe i'm just optimistic in thinking fossil fuel will not be going away.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah good question, not sure how the short trips affect the diesel
@Mill72
@Mill72 Год назад
Short trips with diesel can be an issue because it will need to regen. Lots of stop n’ go and short trips will not let the DPF clear when regening. You’ll need to stretch it legs and take it on highway speeds every once awhile so it can start and finish the regen. Or else you’ll get a clogged DPF. Either get stranded or ruin the DPF..$$$$ Thanks to the emission controls on the diesels (SCR, EGR, DPF), but I would put newer diesels from the last 15 years against any gasser and just as clean.
@impala-wf2sd
@impala-wf2sd Год назад
@@Mill72 I regularly get 25 mpg around town in my 3.0 duramax truck & 34 on the highway
@jeffw6894
@jeffw6894 Год назад
Lots of short trips will give you emission control systems problems.
@paulpuretz1388
@paulpuretz1388 Год назад
$2.00 difference between diesel and gas in nj now ..i still love my diesel
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah that's the only problem I see....
@gleanerman2195
@gleanerman2195 Год назад
Diesel was always way cheaper than gas, until I bought my first diesel.
@MegaHEC1
@MegaHEC1 Год назад
Hey what type off deaf you put in your diesel
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
The cheap superTech Walmart brand
@funfishing0944
@funfishing0944 Год назад
You forgot the cost of changing the OIL PUMP located inside the crankcase. With a 4x4 like I have they have to take the front end apart in order to drop the oil pan to get to the pump. BIG BUCKS in labor not to mention the cost of the pump and the alignment of the front end when it is finished. Also, the 3.0 takes SPECIAL OIL and every oil change which I do myself, costs $93.00 for the filter and oil from Amazon.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
I covered those costs in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vnv-6j-TVbs.htmlsi=HmOwyjEfylXLXpHN
@geejay5653
@geejay5653 Год назад
Great video. I am a big fan of of the diesel and the driving characteristics. Since you added the extra cost of the engine and DEF though, I would have added the extra cost of oil changes as well to your calcs. I don't know the 3.0l Duramax oil requirements, but I know for my wife's Cayenne diesel the oil is about $8/qt...roughly twice as much per quart plus it takes more oil than an equivalent gas engine. That alone would probably add a few thousand more dollars to the cost over 100,000 miles. That's not even touching the potential cost of expensive diesel emission systems if they fail. With that said, I still prefer the diesel.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Good point on the increased cost of the oil!
@joshr19821
@joshr19821 7 месяцев назад
Would you still go with the Diesel at this moment?
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 7 месяцев назад
I still would!
@CEH5099
@CEH5099 Год назад
I currently own a 2022 Silverado ZR2 (6.2L gas). Love the power 420 HP, like the V8 sound and it's a nice optioned loaded truck for sure. BUT,, I have towed a dual axle enclosed trailer at 70-75 with about 7k load and get 10mpg. I also tow a small toy hauler dual axle approx same weight and get less than 10mpg at same speed due to wind drag. Long story short I have ordered the 3.0 with max tow package due to a couple times headed west, didn't think I would make it to next gas station. Friend tows with LM2 about same weight and they are not even comparable, ZR2 sucking vapors and LM2 wondering why we stopped again !
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
That is very interesting!
@noly927
@noly927 Год назад
Also you get the warranty 100,000 mi powertrain
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
Yeah that's a nice bonus!
@thewatchertube
@thewatchertube Год назад
Thank You!!! great explanation
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage Год назад
👍
@apache6084
@apache6084 10 месяцев назад
what about the oil changes, whats the difference?thanks.
@Myksgarage
@Myksgarage 10 месяцев назад
Here's the video on that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vnv-6j-TVbs.htmlsi=N9MptPDHT2DzGeZA
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