Metal: Drummer, basist, guitarist(s), singer. These are all a part of the normal sound spectrum. We don't need a headphone designed for metal. That's like designing a fork for eating a specific food that could be eaten with a normal fork. I use the Focal Elex for metal. The mids are perfect for me, there's enough base to hear the kickdrum, and it's airy enough to hear symbols. You don't need 20 speakers in one earcup. It's a marketing gimmick
@@user-ce5dh8ri1q I have a pair of headphones for listening to base heavy music, a technical pair for stringed instruments, and another for vocals. But they aren't genre dependent. Do you have a spaghetti fork for spicy spaghetti and another for normal spaghetti?
Forks that I've used in my 43 years of life that aren't just a table fork: Salad fork, pasta fork, hors d'oeuvres fork (also called a cocktail fork), fruit fork, carving fork, desert fork, oyster fork, and ice cream fork.
@@TheZoenGaming Like I said. Marketing gimmicks. Hahaha. I've lived my 40 years fine with normal forks and the food doesn't taste any different. Maybe the way I worded my OP is wrong, in the sense that you can have different forks for different jobs, sure, but it's not needed for different flavors. Yes, it's a bad analogy, I get it! hahaha
The Superlux HD660 are apparently good for metal, seen that mentioned in more than one review; got a pair myself & they do sound good altough my only comparison are bass-heavy headphones & some crappier ones from AKG
@@chethammerListening to Zeppelin or Pink Floyd on my Grado GS3000x is the most speaker like presentation of any headphone I own and I have many other totl like the Focal Utopia to compare to.
The 1More over ear triple driver was the video that got me into your channel, and was my first “audiophile” headphone. So when you pulled it off the wall there was so much nostalgia hitting me!
I don't see a reason these exist. My favorite "metal" headphones (contingent on mood and/or use case) are HD25/650 and Focal Clear. Heavys seem more like Beats ("Listen to Metal The Way It's Meant to Be Heard") than anything I want or need.
HD650 are great for metal. But my all time favourite headphone for metal/grunge are AKG K702 *WITH EQ*. Stock they are garbage but with it I honestly can't say I've found a better set of cans. Cymbals are crisp, lots of room and aoundstage, bass is super heavy and goes deep and never distorts. But I just really like open backs and don't listen extremely loud.
@@dustydynasty802 They're my favorite, I don't mind the narrower soundstage given the rest. Detailed, great balance, easy af to drive. Some people find them uncomfortable with the clamping force and hot spots (they're the most comfortable for me). If I had to pick one headphone, it'd be them with a metal forward library. Better exists for sure but imho not near that price point.
@@bacon_fat Bro I can respect them but that's anything but melodic lol 15 different time signatures and 8 strings. But they have some exceptions like Modern Meat is probably the best thing Tosin wrote.
Animals as leaders are very melodic. Weird that someone could think otherwise. But perhaps what has happened is that you listened to them through these headphones with the power off 😛
Yes bastion is a game. A good game. The musician that did the music for it does all of supergiant games' music. Check out the transistor soundtrack and the soundtrack to hades - hades is a pretty heavy metal soundtrack
I'll give you some well produced metal albums: Type O Negative - October Rust Queensryche - Empire Death - The Sound of Perseverance Crowbar - Sonic Excess in it's Purest Form Metallica - Self-titled Testament - The Ritual Also nothing weird with being a normie some of us can enjoy mainstream stuff and still have a good ear. Heck my favourite setup is AKG K702, with 1978 Pioneer SX590 amp, with SMSL SD793 DAC, and harman curve eq. And I have like 10 different headphones and 10 different amps lol.
You can add to this almost anything mixed/engineered by Daniel Bergstrand. Albums like City and Chaosphere sound incredible while also being great albums on their own.
I’ll add on a few more myself: 1. Dream Theater- pretty much any album after change of seasons 2. Megadeth- Rust in Peace 3. Gojira- The Way of All Flesh 4. Haken- Virus 5. Car Bomb- Mordial 6. Opeth- Blackwater Park
I own these, they suuuuuck. Especially for real metal. They distort on fast double bass immediately. I have a pair of JBL $70 headphones that do metal better than these. It's a sham.
As a metalhead, I always assumed these would suck. Just a marketing gimmick. Metal music is still just music, and heavy music in general contains a HUGE spectrum of different production styles and sounds, it's so weird to claim you're targeting metal as a genre when even inside of that genre nothing sounds the same.
I love my Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros for metal and rock, etc., and also Sennheiser Urbanite XLs, both of which have fantastic bass, the former adjustable bass, and comfort, and the mids and highs sound good, too. Not wireless.....only via an IFI amp.
I am an ex Death Metal singer, and I am into Bayers too. For me its not all about low end, the opposite, I need the clarity to understand everything, that is going on. For me the Hights and sound stage are more important
@@phantomflame0658 Ha, they were recorded dry as hell, yeah. I was listening to their stuff last year whilst reading the new book out on SST Records. I didn't really know them that well until recently.
I agree that the One Mores are exceptional headphones and I did successfully manage to change the pads to super soft over ears. They are now one of my favourite headphones. Well worth the effort.
You can peel the pads off the 1mores and a set of xl brainwavz pads will fit over the whole cup. Makes them into over ear and I couldn't detect any change in the sound. Looooove them
@@Zednix Yeah, I kept my Sony XM4's as my beater pair. Sold them on eBay for the same price as my early pledge. I have several TOTL cans, so I'm also a bit spoiled and maybe expected too much from these...
Sounds like most (all?) commenters here haven't actually used the Heavys, so as someone who uses them, I feel like I can add something to the discussion... The whole "metal" thing is absolutely a gimmick. Honestly, I think this is just obvious. That said, the reason why I bought them is that I wanted a Bluetooth headphone that 1) is cheaper than Bose or Sony, and 2) sounds better than Bose or Sony. Based on the reviews and comments I've seen/read about the Bose/Sony flagships, I concluded that while their sound is decent, the target audience is not the audiophile community; they have a lot of bass at the expense of detail and clarity, and so on. In contrast, if you go beyond the basic Heavys advertisements, you will discover that the purpose of these headphones is to produce deep bass without sacrificing everything else. And the reason I figured they might accomplish that is that the designer was none other than Axl Grell. My go-to headphones for years was the HD280 Pro. They sound fantastic to me. But they are horrible for on-the-go listening. When it comes to sound, Grell knows exactly what he is doing. Ironically, I am not a bass freak, and while I listen to metal, the genre I listen to most is Progressive Metal, which ranges from super-soft to super-hard. Since the Heavys app hasn't come out yet, I EQ'd them manually with the Wavelet app. I think they sound great, either via Bluetooth, or plugged into my portable Fiio DAC/amp. They do exactly what I want - cheaper than Bose or Sony, and they sound fantastic.
This is the type of opinion/perspective i was trying to find when researching the Heavy's. To start, i absolutely agree the metal side of the marketing is a gimmick, no argument about that. Trying to find reviews talking about what it would be like for an average user using these seems rough. I could only find reviews from audiophiles (which I am not one) and they are not helpful. As you have said, I just want something that has decent sound quality that is cheaper. I haven't had a pair of over the head headphones in years and only been using ray con ear buds for the past 3 years or so (which are bass heavy and i do enjoy them personally). My question when flipping through reviews is, is it worth it for me as a frequent average on-the-go music listener (that is not an audiophile) to get these when I'm trying to find the cheaper but decent sound quality option for headphones.
You mentioned ford escort and that reminded me of my friends old escort. So I image searched 1993 Escort.... NOT the results I was looking for while im at work
My favorite headphones for metal are the edition xs. Although the tambre’s off, the general tuning gives the music a really nice energy to it while being really wide.
My only thing for listening to metal is mids have to be clear and they can’t be fatiguing. 8 drivers is hilarious. Edit: You’re totally right about this being a rebranded gaming headphone, the replaceable Astro A40 style backplates definitely proves it.
ZMF Aeolus is the best headphone I've ever heard for metal. I like a bassier sound signature to give downtuned guitars some real meat, and the highs aren't fatiguing, but there's still enough clarity and open-ness to feel like I'm seeing a good band in a club
Would take the Senn HD25 over the Heavys any day. One of the best headphones for metal (or any other genre). They're like a closed HD600 with an indestructible build and time-proven.
Open will always win for me for rock/metal. But it's hard to find a pleasant closed back so maybe I'll check those out if you say they're like the 600's.
Drum and bass dj here. HD 25 are the gold standard in my genre of choice. They work great for all the music I love and I enjoy that. Drum and bass ✅ Heavy metal /Deathcore / Slam ✅ Dubstep ✅ Hip hop ✅
You know how you the monoprice modern retros are fun? Yeah. I own a pair of Heavys. They're fun. Not GOOD, but FUN. I'll listen to my Focal Elears when I want to enjoy some chill time in my chair at home.
as someone who listens to a lot of metal, i would suggest you take a listen to archspire's relentless mutation and either of fallujah's two most recent albums for some examples of well recorded metal that isn't compressed to shit like a lot of it is. It's unfortunate that a lot of really good releases are mixed / mastered so poorly.
Trve black metal is grainy as balls, best listened to on a sony casette player with combat boot marks on them and a pair of porto pro's \m/ Metal has a lot of subgenres actually, technical death metal and black metal for example have completely different sound profiles. Even in just singing styles there is a lot of variety, screams go from really deep to really high, perfectly clean, gritty, classical, etc. There's lots of classical influences and synths too, heck, a lot of actual classical music is metal as fuck, listen to some of Bartók's or Shostakovich's string quartets, or Stravinski, Vivaldi or what about Bach on harpsichord? Anyway I like metal on the Hifiman Edition XS, but I like everything on those.. tbh I pretty much only listen to those nowadays, or to the Audeze Maxwell when I need something closed and wireless like when I watch movies or series and stuff.
Sordid Pink, are a perfect example of a metal production pissing all over most other genres in their entirety, so yes fantastically produced metal exists. Could give at least 250 other examples.
I love the classic audiophile headphones, or can at least appreciate them (since part of being a headphone guy is being discerning about stuff) but, I gotta be honest... I love my Heavys. They are indeed super niche, they aren't even great at most types of metal, but my favorite junkfood music is mid 2000's metalcore which is over produced and brutal. For this kind of music, stuff I'm nostalgic for... I don't want to listen to Bleeding Through or Shadows Fall on balanced open back headphones because thats not how that particular form of music exists in my memories. It exists as partially deafening me in bars with shitty acoustics, or double kickdrumming coming from my 98 nissan altima's aftermarket stereo. So yeah, when it comes to delivering brutality and making my head bang and reminding me of the day, making me feel fuzzy... the Heavys are great. Its kind of appropriate that they specifically advertise making a very specific form of music give you the feels. But yeah, they're shitty from every objective metric there is. If I did not have my specific nostalgic era and tastes, I would hate them. That being said, at no point do they deceive you into thinking that these headphones are to be taken seriously with their marketing or the bluetooth voice guy. They're a laugh, and its even oddly fun to see what other genres sound like if you made them feel lick double kickdrums. Oh yeah and to avoid the weird digital to analog to digital shit, you need to make sure BOTH switches on the headphones are set to off and they're plugged into a stout amp. This makes them fun gaming headphones as well since it improves the detail (not a ton, not enough to clean up music) and the painful, rapid thumping is great for games... as long as they dont have dialogue (theres a ton of lag on the bluetooth connection). MP games. Again, theyre a shitty, shitty... shitty first, second or third set of cans... but eh, if youve got a bunch of normal stuff, and you like that hyper specific genre of metal... go for it.
Ever since you introduced me to planar drivers I (generally) prefer them for metal. Due to how fast they are, they tend to do the best job reproducing the type of metal I listen to. I know it's not your bag, but here are a couple of bands I think you might like given your love for anime. Baby Metal Band-Maid HANNABE.
I bought these too last year and THEY SUCK. And the worst part is to see those metal posers taking photos to promote them either showing their biceps if dudes, or legs and tits if women. Metal is my life and it hurts to see and hear this.
The other day I rewatched Alf on peacock. Not the whole thing just a few episodes from the beginning. I have since discovered a strange world of online alf enthusiasts
Bruh.... If you don't like Metal fine. But dont tell me Metal Heads dont like Audiophile equipment. That's insanely asinine. You're in fact asinine all the time, but that? WOW! We Metalheads, at least me, like good gear. Metal is probably the hardest music for any gear to play. Why? Palm Muted chugging, Powerchords and Kickdrums. Insanely fast kick drums. Exploits the weaknesses of many of the very "best" speakers, IEMs and headphones. Now these Heavy's are pretty bad. They dont sound particularly good for any genre. But I know of a LOT of high dollar quote "audiophile" gear that sucks playing metal. 90 percent of what you recommend, sucks for playing metal. 90 PERCENT! So please take the stick out your butt. It's not very comely!
Metal is the easiest to set up gear if you ONLY play metal. It's when you try to make an audiophile system that can make metal shine while also doing justice to everything else that it becomes really difficult. It's a hard balance to hit. I know because I spent years nailing my setup down to do just that.
I agree. Every time I follow Z's advice I'm disappointed (except btr3k I love you). Cause it sounds like ass. Metal and rock takes some effort to sound good. Albums literally take up the entire frequency range and not even that, the dynamics play a part like you said the cymbals, chugging, whatever will instantly be a good test for your equipment. You need the soundstage of open backs yet bass tightness of IEM which is almost impossible to achieve so we have to strike a balance.
I use my GL2Ks to listen to metal. I also use them for every other genre I listen to. No idea why a headphone would need to be designed for one genre of music. Also Dunes by Sutrah is an incredibly well produced album.
0:41 not surprised in the slightest. When you something like that pop out of no where on your feed. It's usually shit. The number of headphones you have to choose from at this price point. And will leave these in the dust in terms of proformence is laughable.
Total gimmick. Imagine someone releasing a pair of speakers 'for metal' - they would be laughed at. How about a 'metal' turntable ? Even the term is so effing broad in 2024 that it could be virtually anything. Spend your money on a few CDs from real metal bands and leave these to the people silly enough to buy them.
Out of all genres I know, metal is pretty much the most demanding genre in terms of speaker/headphones, to cope with the amount of information and distortion without the speaker itself loosing its composure. And I don’t trust some random Bluetooth headphone to manage that when most flagship headphones barely manage it. Just make a good headphone and we’ll work from there.
As a audiophile metalhead I can confirm their marketing is total BS. Metal especially modern metal is well produced and it doesn’t really matter too much what sound signature you go for. I use my LCD-X for metalalcore/deathcore everyday and it’s a perfect match. (Also your cat mousepad is metal af 🔥)
Well produced? What Metal are you into? I dwell in the deepest and darkest Black Metal basements where they record on Fisher Price toy tape recorders. Well produced is maybe some modern metal - mostly Death Metal (Blood Incantation and their "analog recording" fetish for example), but there are tons of modern Metal bands that prefer the basement, Black Metal is obvious (unless it's pseudo-BM like Cradle of Filth or Dimmu Borgir, who in fact are Power Metal with harsh vocals), but some really depressive, dark and "melancholic" things will be there as well, fex the worst produced ever: Bestia Arcana "Holocauston" will make you call your Hi-Fi service if you're unprepared.
@@C0ffeeKing yeah, looks like it, but still there's a difference between, say Darkthrone staying as far away from modern compression sound and trigger-drumkit samples, as possible and extreme low-fi basement weirdos lol.
Thank you! As a metalhead I would NEVER buy these. ESPECIALLY since they're advertised for metal music. Even the "rock" EQ settings and whatnot are never the way I want to hear my music.
I dont like metal on my open backs. They lack bass. But on any closed back with a small bass shelf, or large, i love it. As long as the driver is fast enough. Slow drivers just dont do the fast drums and super fast guitars. Doesn't matter if it's a beyer 770 pro or b&w pz7 s2. As long as the driver is fast enough.
@@guybuddy1 lol. Sadly i have not tried it. I demo'ed the 2c in a store. But i can't afford those prices🫣 I have had my beyers for years, same with my b&w. And recently got the harmonicdyne Zeus elites. Best headphones i have for a lot of things. Just not metal
@@andreasjensen8451If you ever do have the chance, try them out. X's are in another league compared to the 2c. Anything from Meshuggah to the sludgiest of the sludgy doom metal, it does it all. Also you can get one used for a fairly reasonable price(~800USD).
With all due respect Zeos, you don’t really know what you’re talking about. The think the phrase is “people mock what they don’t understand.” And frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck if you listen to or like metal. A lot of people don’t. That’s fine. But you’re painting with a pretty broad brush when you say that metal heads don’t care about fidelity. We kinda do actually. And there is one hard and fast rule for headphones. If they can handle metal, and it sounds good on them, every other genre is a cake walk. Just take it easy on the vast over generalizations. You might actually be alienating a few of your fans. Oh and by the way, Slayer sounds fucking fantastic on the Venus. 🤘🤘
Did I just read the best, most informed, to the point comment ever on the entire interned? Yes, I did. Completely agree. I care deeply about having my metal sound good, and it’s true it’s the hardest to get right! So at least the company are having a go at trying this.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 don’t two vast over generalizations make a right? Yeah maybe a bit of a defensive response. But I really did not appreciate the tone of those first few minutes. People who like metal can’t be audiophiles. Rubbish. But I will defend my point and where I may only be in the 50s as far as number of sets tried goes, that rule has applied. Any set that I own or have tried that has been able to get distortion cleaned up to studio level (and that of course is dependent on the original recording/mixing and mastering), has proven to be quite adept at many other genres. But then, if you don’t listen to metal… how would you know?
I’ve not even finished the video yet, there are a million things that could be said about these, but here, start with this. No headphone can be designed for any genre - for a specific album, okay, but not even a specific band, because every album sounds different. Take Meshuggah, every album produced, mixed and mastered to sound totally different, and it’s hard for any headphone or IEM to make SOME of the productions sound good - album to album, never mind band to band or genre to genre.
You could go from seplultura, to In flames, to lacuna coil, to baby metal, to twelve foot ninja, then slide to the prodigy (i know, tech dance, but you know where im going).
@@Mr_jz_12 good examples, all very different productions, so there is no way that any headphone could claim to sound anything close to accurate, intentional or ideal with even just that spread of artists.
Also you mentioned another good example of a band with a great production there, and really the only band in the world where one song can span 4 genres, genuinely split into different segments, the band twelve foot Ninja are a band that should be getting regularly used for test songs.
@@Mr_jz_12 I was lucky enough to interview Jake from Periphery a long time ago, and it was during that interview that I asked him about any bands he would recommend, and he mentioned them, and this was just before the two bands started publicly being friendly and stuff, and I was blown away hearing them. So inventive. Had a ticket twelve foot ninja’s U.K. tour and then the singer left, they were still going to do the tour but then eventually cancelled it, and it was a bit heartbreaking.
You know.....Marshall did this about 10 years ago and called them Marshall headphones. I never owned any, but I heard they were ok, not great. They looked very cool, though.
Bro you sound just like corpsegrinder! My hd600s came in today and im playing enforced, the 600s sound better at high volumes compared to my 560s. Got that tube amp you recommended on the way then ill be playing cannibal corpse after enya.
I listen to fair but of everything and have a decent headphone collection. Monolith M1070C Monolith M1070 Hifiman Sundara Closed Back Modded (pads and internal baffling) Hifiman Edition XS FiiO FT3 FiiO FT5 Beyerdynamics/Massdrop DT 177X Go My favorite for metal are the Monolith 1070, Hifiman Sundara Closed Back, Hifiman Edition XS, and FiiO FT5.
You definitely cemented my decision to not buy these. I'm a metal fan (honestly kind of shocked you aren't lol) and have some Noir 99 and 6XX's already and wanted to try something else for fun. Not being able to run them well without battery power is a deal breaker. I would have never used BT and only wanted to drive them off my equipment. When the JT1's get back in stock, I'm going to try those.
These headphones that are marketed for "metal" (in general) are an absolute gimmick if the manufacturer thinks every sub-genre of metal & rock is going to sound perfect on them. There's the recording quality of the song to think about, (if digital) the bitrate & file type, etc. I personally listen to more psych, prog, doom, stoner, post metal/rock genres than your heaviest death/black stuff, but I've got stuff that has heaps of fidelity & dynamic range and I've got sh***y rips of concerts I still love listening to. Maybe my best sounding music still can't compare to all that audiophile, DSD, reel-to-reel, hearing raindrops in every direction beyond the room your in, type stuff. But I don't need it to. There are plenty of good quality headphones and IEMs from 2020-onward that should suffice for ensuring guitar & vocals sound great while still having enough bass to "feel" the kick drum and have Al Cisneros melt your face. I use Hifiman Edition XS and 7Hz Timeless with a Questyle M15, connected via 4.4mm and just EQ the bass up a little. It's plenty until I can afford to upgrade.
Oi 🙄 and reminds me of “This one goes to 11”😆. Doing just fine with unleashed in the east, ride the lightning, don’t break the oath and anything by high command, watain, tool & russian circles via my Senns or Focals.
Yeah I saw these a couple years ago, called it a scam, I do mainly listen to metal and I'll just stick to my elegias or lcd-x. Maybe pick up the new 7hz thing when it comes out. I go out of my way to leave comments that this is a dumb product every time I see an ad
Yeah. I almost purchased these 'cause I was curious about the 8 drivers thing, but I heard the complaints about being too muddy, so I decided to wait for the currently nonexisting app of it. Maybe an inbuilt EQ would make it what it was supposed to be.
@@CBourn48223 _"... I like metal ..."_ Yeah. I like metal too. _"... I like muddy ..."_ Nope. I don't like that. I don't even understand how this extended base universe happened with the headphones. I think this is some kind of an overcompensation, or maybe hiphop and rap wants just a base and the lyrics but metal is something more complex than just that. _"... Might try em ..."_ Yeah. If there will be an inbuild EQ, probably I will do it too. But I don't like when I throw the money out and put a new gadget on the shelf to attract the dust. _"... If you play music from your PC I'd recommend getting Peace Equalizer APO ... It's a real game changer that i can't live without ..."_ Yeah. Android has multiple level of tone controls, EQ as well, on desktop there are multiple possibilities of different EQs, and I have analog EQ too, which are game changers I don't deny, but 1, You have to bother with them, don't deny, and not only once, but for each music source 2, There are situations when you cannot make it good enough. You can EQ it better, but not good enough. _"... lol ..."_ Yeah. Why ?
Is not as bad as the Momentum 3, but yeah is bass heavy, the good thing about it is that the sound hit you you can feel it. but yeah the app is a must for now. I'm not mad for buying it at 150 dollars ( I wouldn't pay more) and these are just my street headphones, And I never thought that would replace my Bayerdynamic T1 so I'm ok with them
@@Dulkh4n _"... Is not as bad as the Momentum 3, but yeah is bass heavy, the good thing about it is that the sound hit you you can feel it. but yeah the app is a must for now ..."_ Yeah. But the Momentum 3 has the inbuilt EQ already. It has a 3 band graphic EQ only, and I use them with bass at negative end, and mid and high both at positive end, WITH the ANC off. (ANC makes the sound more muddy.) Sometimes I take the mid and high back to 75% of the max by my daily taste, but that's all. I think that modern headphones are made to be that muddy. Probably it is 'cause it is much easier to take the bass away than to add it if it is not really existing. But even to take it away you need the inbuilt EQ. That's the sorry case. _"... I'm not mad for buying it at 150 dollars ( I wouldn't pay more) and these are just my street headphones, And I never thought that would replace my Bayerdynamic T1 so I'm ok with them ..."_ I don't really understood when you thought of what can.
@@gmlgml780 never did that's the point. for me these were always going to be my street headphones. one that block sound, have a decent to good sound quality and wouldn't hurt me if they get stolen or broken
Metalhead here. I bought those. I was extremely disappointed in them. The sound is definitely nothing to write home about and then there's the comfort... I have a small head. Not an extremely small head, there are millions of people with smaller heads than mine, and yet, they're already almost too large for me in the tightest headband position. And, yes, they're FUCKING HEAVY, and not in the good sense of the word, so unless you're Corpsegrinder himself, those will break your neck after an hour of use.
Why'd you buy those? Everything about them screams marketing cash grab scam, hilarious too that they're really heavy weight, so you can't headbang lmao
