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So, you don't think you need Traction Control? | Testing DSC on Goodwood Skid Pan | BMW M140i w. LSD

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I took a BMW M140i onto the Goodwood Skid Pan and tested the different traction control settings and their effects at full throttle - the differences were incredible, and a testament to how clever the BMW traction control systems are!
Huge thanks to Goodwood Motor Circuit for the use of their skid pan facility, and a massive thanks to my buddy Reg for letting me slide and spin his BMW around while he followed in my little Civic with some cameras on!
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@gottliebdee263 3 года назад

I think a lot of people are unaware of how good, (or bad), a driver they are simply because of the existence of these driver aids.

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Haha, yeah you might be right, MDM can make you look like a hero! 😎😉

@gottliebdee263 3 года назад

@@RickTheSpud It did for me and that was only in a 120d.

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

@@gottliebdee263 😆😎👌

@samuelgomez3311 2 года назад

I think it depends on the car cause it isn't the same technology or quality aids. Well, depends a lot if the driver is very good or very bad... So when you go at limits it's very difficult that aids helps you but a very bad driver could be a lot easier for electronics cause the wrong imputs. But yeah, in the case like in this video, aids helps a lot for sure. It's very wet surface and in that circumstances the electronics can help a lot more

@skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

I had a prodrive upgraded GC8 years ago along with a fast road chassis set up with German made GSD3 tyres. Ok, no driver aids or such but the car was definitely a better driver than me 😂 It'd let you recover some outrageous moments and I took that as I was a driving god. Right up until the point I mistook a section of road for another and came barreling in like a cretin to what I thought was the entry to a long sweeping S section and it was actually a tight right. Never seen all four tyres smoke from a sustained sideways moment before. A grand lighter and a month later I go it back all shiny and never drove it like a dick again... Much.

@Rayodola 2 дня назад

So this video is really informative. I’ve driven my M140i for 2.5 years and if I’m playing it’s ONLY in Sport+ with traction off. But I never knew how much that DSC has kept me on the straight and narrow all this time. I need to find a “Private” road to play with DSC off. Wish me luck, seems like I will need it watching this 🤣🤣

@RickTheSpud 2 дня назад

Haha, thanks buddy! Yeah the trouble is with the systems off, if you've still got grip, it wouldn't be doing anything anyway, it's when it goes wrong, that Traction Mode or MDM is keeping you out the woods! 😜 Don't forget to Subscribe and check out my M3 vids too. 👊

@jamessmith84240 2 года назад

Great video mate. I bought a 2013 M135i about 6 months ago. I've been driving for 18 years but this is my first rear wheel drive car. The change from 200bhp front wheel drive to 300bhp+ rear wheel drive was quite a shock to the senses! I'm slowly growing into it though. I suppose the motivation to not wreck the car I've spent my life longing for is a good thing!

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Yeah exactly. Great cars those M135s. Just take it easy and get your head round it, and get some skid training! 😎👌

@leexr2i Год назад

I’m in exactly the same boat as you. I have been driving 18 years, just sold my 200bhp fwd type r and have put a deposit down on a 2015 M135i.. I have spent a lot of time on the internet learning what all the modes do and trying to prepare myself for being let loose in 320bhp of rwd madness. Hopefully I can pick it up over the weekend but I’m pretty nervous lol

@jamessmith84240 Год назад

@@leexr2i Congrats mate. You will be fine, just keep the traction control on til you get a feel for the power. I've got a M140i now and I've learned these cars wont bite you unless you go looking for trouble. If you are steady on the power (especially in damp) they are just like any other car. Just more amazing to drive! 😋

@skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

@@jamessmith84240 You lucky sod! Enjoy the (epic!) Ride!

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Great video mate, educational and fun 👌🎬

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Thanks mate. 😘 Had the idea months ago as you know, finally did it! ❤

@SatanDotExe 7 месяцев назад

To anyone watching, Sport+ will still let you slide enough to spin out and crash. Don't think it's a "middle" setting, it's more like 1/4 on.

@RickTheSpud 7 месяцев назад

Oh Ok. Thanks mate. 👊

@skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

That M140i sounds utterly beautiful 😍

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

Yeah good isn't it! Check out RoadReg on YT and see what mods he's done to it. 👊

@skylined5534 9 месяцев назад

@@RickTheSpud Ooh will do! You've gotta love a hot 1 series!

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

Defo! 😜🍌🍌🍌

@hasanyalki6669 2 года назад

could not have been explained better- thanks!

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

No worries buddy. Please Subscribe if you haven't! 😎🙏

@kevinmcg6747 3 года назад

Really enjoyed this and interesting the difference in outcomes. You’ve certainly wet my appetite to do the course in my car, more to see what happens when you go over the line - it’s an M2 competition & I fear it’ll hang me out to dry 😂.

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Haha. One way to find out! 😉

@garyking7727 2 года назад

With an LSD on the M2 will it not be alot more controllerball?

@garyking7727 2 года назад

More predictable with an LSD? Isn't spinning up one wheel more likely to shunt the car into a spin? I have read further down that the M140i has one.

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Several questions and points to answer here. Yes this M140 has an LSD. On the skid pan it won't make any difference as it's so slippery that with over 300hp you're always going to spin both wheels. So, on the road... Yes, with an LSD it will be more predictable. Without an LSD sometimes it will spin an inside wheel, sometimes it will spin both. No, spinning one wheel is LESS likely to spin the car. If you spin one wheel, usually the inside wheel with less load, then the outside wheel will maintain grip and you'll keep going in the direction of travel. With an LSD you can't spin up one wheel so if you break traction it will be with both wheels and the car will rotate. Which if you know what you're doing is good fun! 😉 The middle ground with an LSD is that before you spin both wheels you'll have more grip to propel you forwards without spinning an inside wheel and losing forward drive. Hope that helps.

@gehtdianschasau8372 9 месяцев назад

It's nice to have the option of turning it off completely. It might not be faster ( i don't mind, if it takes me 10 seconds longer to drive to work ) but listen to him chuckling! That's 10 seconds well spent.

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

😂 Yeah definitely! 😉

@jaysmartin Год назад

I've recently had a go on Goodwoods skid pan and I highly recommend it to anyone. Great fun and I learned a lot unfortunately my feathering of the throttle wasn't always as good as this!

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Ah brilliant! Good isn't it! Practice makes perfect, you'll have to do it again! 👊😎

@Megaaabeard 2 месяца назад

Such a great video! I did a skid pan last night, wish i had watched this first and slowly built up. Did some big powerslides but didnt get this very controlled slide with dsc off. Did lots of 360s though haha.

@RickTheSpud 2 месяца назад

Ah brilliant! Where'd you do it? Goodwood?

@rosfamilyadventures Год назад

Thanks for clearly explaining and showing the various modes! This will help me in my m2!

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Ace, no problem buddy! Enjoy your M2! PS. Subscribe and tell your friends!

@rosfamilyadventures Год назад

@@RickTheSpud Definitely!

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@rosfamilyadventures Bless you Team! 👊

@PetrolPed 3 года назад

Loved this. Well done buddy :-)

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Ah thanks a lot mate! 🤗❤

@m8xtv 3 года назад

Great video mate. Very informative. Dying to get mine on that skid pan!

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Haha. Cheers man. They should do days where you can take your own car! That would be fun! In the meantime you'll just have to book a Spin & Slide experience! 😉

@edugamer950 2 года назад

Before watching the video I'll say I've found that at low speed I hate TC, at high speeds I prefer to have it in the "snow" setting, which keeps the TC partially off. This is based on my personal experience and having slid and having hydroplaned

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Yeah, that's fair. What ever works and feels best for you. I'd say as a general rule MDM or Traction mode is a nice happy medium, it's there in the background if things go really wrong. 😉👌

@VijayPawar-nt3st 8 месяцев назад

This is awesome. Well explained.

@RickTheSpud 8 месяцев назад

Thank you mate! Great cars these, and clever systems! 👊 Please Subscribe if you haven't... 😉

@alexisaddicted 2 года назад

Great video and very educational, thank you

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Why thank you Sir! 🤗👌

@aacar4095 Год назад

Great video. Just got a 135i and definitely hitting the DTC button at start up from here on out. Wasn’t sure all it did as manual is vague (“Engage for snow and mud” or whatever). Have a Solstice GXP and love the LSD…disappointing the 135i doesn’t come with one. Just driving around and doing some slow speed turns with throttle steer is a total blast and so much more solid and connect vs “one wheel drive”. Plus LSDs increase traction significantly in rain, snow, etc. Hard to spring $2400 just for an aftermarket LSD for the 135i. They’re a lot because of the configuration.

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Thank you! 👊 Yeah they're great fun cars for sure, plenty of power and obvs with an LSD mega for skids! 😜

@jimhud407 2 года назад

That 360 looked epic mate 😆

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Haha, thanks mate! In a time before the Insta 360 you had to do this! 😂

@mirageycq Год назад

Wow!! Thanks

@RickTheSpud Год назад

No worries! 👊😎 Make sure you're subscribed! 😉

@paulchapman6826 3 года назад

Top work buddy 👏

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Ah thanks mate. All made sense? First driving tuition type video I've done so I'm hoping it was accurate and made sense?...

@paulchapman6826 3 года назад

@@RickTheSpud yeah definitely did. Love the little outtakes too. 👌

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

@@paulchapman6826 Haha. Always outtakes mate! 🎬🤪

@juanpablosilva8484 2 года назад

Great to know about the "mid DSC off"/ "traction mode". just controls the traction control in that case, right?...

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Yeah sort of, just puts the TC a bit more in the background, it's still there but it comes in slightly later and gives you a bit more slip. Very clever.

@rafsanrashid8440 Год назад

Best video explanation

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Thank you my friend! Subscribe and tell your friends! 👊

@kevekulcsar5732 15 дней назад

Just go with sport plus everyone, allows you to fool around but it will save your ass if needed

@RickTheSpud 15 дней назад

Yeah exactly. 💪😎

@arthatis 2 года назад

Maybe true for the skid pad but on regular wet pavement, even with DSC off, I have to actually try pretty hard to get my car to slide - it's actually a bit disappointing when I want to have fun with it cause its not as easy to slide around corners as I would like. I'm even on RWD with old tires. I am in an F30 though, bit heavier of a car, but I do have 450 whp/wtq

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Oh for sure, you'll always have more grip than you think, until you don't have it when you thought you did! Go a bit faster and pump the rears up a bit! 😉

@arthatis 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud workin on it! its probably better that it has more grip than i expected...

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Haha. That's for sure! 😉

@cupra2Jock. 2 года назад

@@arthatis its proably fear holding you back... me and my pal used to go joy riding in a clapped out 320i e46 and he'd have it all over the place sidways (we were 16)

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@cupra2Jock. I mean illegal joy riding when you're underage is prob not the best advice, but yeah, there's no shortcut to experience. 😎 Skid pan or a drift day experience is money well spent. Check out Learn2Drift or Pro Drift Academy for someone to learn to skid! 👌

@wonkothesane2288 3 года назад

Nice one. Very interesting!

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Why Thank You! 😉👌

@jakemico 3 года назад

Looks like you enjoyed yourself!

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Haha. Hello mate! Welcome to the Channel! ❤ Always smiling when I'm doing a skid mate! Check out the channel to see what I've been up to... Catch up soon mate... 🤗

@jakemico 3 года назад

@@RickTheSpud have to see how an AWD car handles the skid pan. Let me know when you’re next having a play and you can take the A45 for a spin

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

@@jakemico Sounds like a plan mate... 😎❤

@ravinduherathx 9 месяцев назад

enjoyed thanks

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

Thanks mate. Please Subscribe if you haven't! 👊

@ravinduherathx 9 месяцев назад

Okay, done 👊 I have a F30 316i 2013, do you think 1.6 twin turbo engine can do same like this? And also I would like to learn about burnouts

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

Yeah definitely. On a skid pan like this. On a dry road, not sure. Wet road, probably. Prob should do a burnout video. Super easy but easy to get it wrong!

@paulkite8385 3 года назад

Nice video Rick, entertaining. 👍

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Cheers Kitey! Don't forget to subscribe! 🤗❤

@MotechPerformance 3 года назад

Skids !! 🏆

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

You know it! 😎👌 Thanks for the Love! 🙏❤

@justanmpowereddude5021 2 года назад

Great vid!

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Thanks buddy, I hope you've subscribed? 😎👌

@Bajanaespinoza 2 года назад

Nice video you should make more videos like this

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Thanks buddy. Yeah I've had a few thoughts about some more skid pan videos or some sort of instructional video but I'm not sure what else I'm qualified to talk about! 🤔😆

@radaplay 3 года назад

nice video really ! educational !!!

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Nice one, thank you... 👌

@danjosan6293 Год назад

Nice drive 🤌🏻👍

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Thanks man!

@bandile_sisonke 5 месяцев назад

Shuuu got saved by traction control in the rain yesterday. Would’ve lost the car or my life.

@RickTheSpud 5 месяцев назад

Ah well done. Good safety systems on the BMW in my opinion... 👊

@martins5864 3 года назад

Cool!

@vollcare4076 3 года назад

Traction mode should be the same as Sport+ regards DTC/ESP

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Yeah I think you're right, I think Traction Mode is short for Dynamic Traction Control or DTC mode...

@DjNikGnashers 3 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Correct. The difference is, in sport+ the throttle map is more like an on/off switch, but in traction completely off mode it has comfort throttle which is much better and more progressive.

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

@@DjNikGnashers Ah nice one buddy. Yeah that makes sense. 😎👌

@roadreg1820 3 года назад

Awesome video Rick! 😎

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Thanks buddy. And well done for not crashing into your own car with my car when doing the tracking shots! 🤣😉

@roadreg1820 3 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Haha.. “What happened with your car, Reg?” ME: “I crashed into it” - THEM: “wtf?”

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

@@roadreg1820 🤣🤣🤣

@Zero-sm8oi 9 месяцев назад

Cool Vid

@RickTheSpud 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! Feel free to share, and Subscribe! 👊😎

@TimWilliamsHD 3 года назад

As you said lol LAAAVLLLYYY

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Haha. Did I? Doh! I've stolen your catch phrase! 🤦‍♂️😆

@cryptidhunter9901 5 месяцев назад

For the UK at least, it would be inadvisable to drive a rwd on public roads without TC. Keep all that sliding business on the race track.

@RickTheSpud 5 месяцев назад

In your opinion. People shouldn't be drifting like this for sure, but you can have a car moving around slightly at the rear with complete control if you know what you're doing.

@phil3184 2 года назад

Great Content!! lsd fitted obv

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Thanks buddy! I hope you've subscribed? 😉 Yes this car has an LSD, but it makes no difference on this surface as it's so slippery, with 300+ bhp you're not just going to spin one wheel! 💪😉

@phil3184 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud just did! agree with your comment. cheers (edit: The difference would theor. show upon the slightest level of traction on one wheel)

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@phil3184 Ah cheers! 😎👌 Oh for sure, if there was any grip it would grip up, usually on the outside wheel where the weight is and start spinning up on the inside wheel.

@nolimitmicahh Год назад

Great vid man and question does traction control automatically come back on when you turn the car on and off just got a 328i haven’t messed around with it yet

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Hey thanks buddy! Yeah I would assume so, normally whatever you touch, when you restart it then traction is back on, stop start is back on, and everything is back in comfort or normal. 😉🤓

@RyanT9288 3 года назад

Great vid mate 👍

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Thanks mate! 👌

@IronLungProductionsOfficial Год назад

the winks! 😅

@RickTheSpud Год назад

😂😉👌

@IronLungProductionsOfficial Год назад

@@RickTheSpud Enjoyed the Video, glad I found it, you've got heaps of great videos to be watched by the looks!

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@IronLungProductionsOfficial Why thank you! Make sure you subscribe and tell your friends... 😉👌

@rob0600 Год назад

Dsc completely off made me crash, 10k repaircost..wont ever do that fault again😭☠️

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Doh! Prob wasn't just that tho, maybe a combination of a few other things... 😜

@rob0600 Год назад

@@RickTheSpud na it literally was…went around a corner, gave a lil gaspush too early n car went flyin like in your vid…made me go over a trafficisland n crash into two other cars…with like 20kmh so not fast

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@rob0600 Oh no! That's not good!

@rob0600 Год назад

@@RickTheSpud Yup…play stupid games, win stupid prices right…well now i have to wait at least a week for it being repaired

@petes3571 7 месяцев назад

When I full throttle in sport plus mode on a wet road, I felt that the rear wheels kinda shuddered the moment I floored it, is it due to traction control activated? I was in sport plus mode and did not touch the dsc button.

@RickTheSpud 7 месяцев назад

Sports plus I think is DSC in half way mode (MDM or Traction Mode) so the shuddering is prob rear axle tramp from the rear wheels slipping and gripping and slipping and gripping really quickly. They're on the verge of grip. If the tyres spin faster they don't do it, but you'd need everything off for that. On a closed private road near Mexico! 👊😜

@petes3571 7 месяцев назад

@@RickTheSpud That makes sense then since I was on a wet road. Just curious, would this still happen on a hot day dry road? I have a rwd m340 with ps4s set up

@RickTheSpud 7 месяцев назад

They'll prob just grip, but at the point they've lost grip you'd have had to overwhelm them so much they'll be spinning much faster and not shudder! 👊😎

@pav1u 7 месяцев назад

when driving on a track or curvy roads to have some fun, should we press for DTC and is it better to drive always that way no matter the weather? thank you

@RickTheSpud 7 месяцев назад

It depends if you know what you're doing when things go wrong. Half way mode is best as it's more relaxed but will try and save you if things go wrong, altho much later. Depends how good a driver you are. 👊

@pav1u 7 месяцев назад

@@RickTheSpud but basically there is no downsides of using DTC for sporty driving correct? I am dallying a beautiful 123D E82 and getting a big more power now..

@RickTheSpud 7 месяцев назад

If you're a half decent driver you should be good! 👊😎

@amacke4736 17 дней назад

how did you get your own car on Goodwood skid pan?

@RickTheSpud 17 дней назад

Hiya! I'm a skid pan Instructor so the guys hooked me up! 👊😉

@HL-OOI 3 месяца назад

Lately my f30 is cutting off throttle/auto brake if above 80km/h under wet conditions on the highway..is this normal?

@RickTheSpud 3 месяца назад

Is it trying to spin up or aqua plaining?

@HL-OOI 3 месяца назад

@@RickTheSpud not sure. It is just under rain with wipers on and will “auto brake” if I go above 80km for a while.... I also understand that it has brake drying function?

@RickTheSpud 3 месяца назад

Oh really. Wow. Sounds like you know more than me. 👊

@HL-OOI 3 месяца назад

@@RickTheSpud 🤣 I just google/YT it

@RickTheSpud 3 месяца назад

👊😂

@keithw4920 3 года назад

Wait, so this was with LSD? Curious how it would do without one.

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

This car has an LSD, but the Goodwood Cars have no LSD and are exactly the same. The surface is so slippery, with 300+ bhp you're not just going to spin one wheel! 💪😉

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

😆 Technically you're more likely to spin out or do a 360 WITH an LSD, as without one you're more likely to just spin up one wheel and not slide at all... 😉

@DjNikGnashers 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Good video very interesting, but I drive EVERYWHERE in DTC OFF mode, it's the first thing I do when I get in the car, hold it down for a few seconds to turn it off completely. My car has 455bhp/634nm and I have never lost it yet, even with an open diff, I just have fun squiggling the back end at every roundabout.

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@DjNikGnashers Then you've got more skill than most bud, good job. 😎👌

@DjNikGnashers 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Maybe more luck than skill my friend lol, but I have been driving RWD cars for the past 35 years so probably just second nature now !

@Moore-c1v 2 года назад

Hello so I was thinking about getting a mini cooper S (r55) but I wanna make sure I get the right one with the right safety feature. So DSC is standard on it but does it break individual wheels around the corner to put the car straight? Or is that DTC? Here in the state’s American cars have 2 systems, TC (only limit wheel spin during take off) DSC/ESP/VSA BECAUSE MOST CAR BRANDS USES DIFFERENT NAMES(breaks 1-4 wheels cut power to help maintain stability at any speed) Seems like Mini and bmw systems are kinda confusing

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Hello mate, no I think your first guess is right. DSC is your safety systems and dynamic braking etc, DTC is dynamic traction control so that is just clever TC and allows more wheel slip while providing skids! 😉

@mrz5705 Год назад

I the LSD an aftermarket addition or a factory 'e-diff'....?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Nah, aftermarket I believe, find RoadReg on IG and he'll tell you everything you need to know... 😉

@howieleem Год назад

Is holding the dsc button down to fully turn it off the same as putting it into sport+?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

I don't believe so, I think in Sport + it's in MDM...

@bod140k Год назад

When Sport+ is ON, we have a Traction mode? Or some different?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Yeah I think so. If DSC is ON and you press sports plus it goes to traction mode, from memory. It's not my car! 😜

@bobalto 2 года назад

I understand that the MDM mode works at the condition to counter steer, if not the car will behave as the DSC was off. Is my understanding correct ?

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

I'm not sure what you mean buddy. Not sure counter steer affects it, MDM just allows for more slip but still limits the slip, you can still spin out as shown...

@bobalto 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Actually I’ve noticed that you proceeded to two skids with MDM mode. The first time you didn’t counter steer and the car made a 180 degree. Seconde time you counter steered and obviously the MDM mode helped a lot to power slide properly

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Ah I see. Yeah true, but notice how slowly it rotated with MDM mode on, compared with MDM off! With grip on a normal surface MDM would prob save you.

@bobalto 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud Ah ok I understand. Thank you so much bro...it’s been a long time I was wondering how the system behaves actually and what are it’s limits. Now everything is clear thanks to you 👍 Once again thank you very much for your explanation.

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@bobalto Hey no worries buddy. Hard to go into too much detail on here but I'm glad that helped. 😎👌

@nickcarr2287 2 года назад

Swugs likes this !

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Haha. Cheers bro! 🥰

@MeMurphy10Feb 2 года назад

Hi Just wondering did the m140 have an open or locked diff? Thanks

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

This car has an LSD, but the Goodwood Cars have no LSD and are exactly the same. The surface is so slippery, with 300+ bhp you're not just going to spin one wheel! 😎

@davidpalmer3131 3 года назад

Good video. What does MDM stand for?

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Cheers buddy. MDM mode and DTC mode (Traction Mode on the dash) are a half way traction setting whereby the Traction Control/Stability Control (DSC) are still working but are more relaxed and in the background. They allow for more slip and rotation of the car before they get involved, and then allow the car to stay more out of shape. I believe both MDM and DTC do the same thing, but MDM (M Dynamic Mode) is only on 'M' power cars (M2, M3, etc) and DTC (Dynamic Traction Mode) is on all other BMWs.

@kazimayub 2 года назад

Been looking into buying one of these ? Was your fitted with LSD? If not do you think it will best for me to get one with LSD keeping i mind i have never driven RWD?

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

This had an LSD but it makes no difference on the skid pan, on the road it depends how hard you push. Try it without, and get one fitted if you start to push hard enough to need one. 😎👌

@MisoElEven Год назад

Get one with an LSD..when youre not pushing for slides it will give you more traction and it will make the car more stable..most importantly it will make the car predictable which is what you want.

@J-D69 2 года назад

I turned tc off one day in the wet and it didn’t end well

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

Oh no, what happened?

@J-D69 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud I had a nice controlled drift up until I let off the accelerator the back gripped again and I went the opposite way probably because wheels were pointing that way so I full throttled to try pull back out and it went the opposite way again if that makes sense 🤷🏻‍♂️

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@J-D69 Yep, massive tank slapper, or a fish tail! 😂 Need to get on a Learn2Drift day. Proper fun! I hope you're subscribed? 😉

@J-D69 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud I have indeed subscribed buddy, I’m getting it back on the road soon, you wouldn’t believe it if I told you haha! And yeah I’ve had a look at that goodwood place can’t get a slot 🙃

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@J-D69 Cheers buddy. Not Goodwood, Aldershot I think, and other places too. Goodwood is for track not skids in your own car, unless it's skid pan in a Goodwood car.

@niallhales1897 Год назад

This is basically a drifting video 😅

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Kinda yeah. But in slow motion. With education. 💪😉

@lukatkalcec9285 2 года назад

Stock differential?

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

This car has an LSD, but the Goodwood Cars have no LSD and are exactly the same. The surface is so slippery, with 300+ bhp you're not just going to spin one wheel! 😎

@lukatkalcec9285 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud i heard that the Electronicdiff is only on dsc fully off activ... would love to see drytesting with stock diff.

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@lukatkalcec9285 I believe it's the opposite, the electronic diff is essentially a fake diff lock and is trying to help you out when DSC is on, when everything is off you're on you're own, and on a grippier surface it tries to spin one wheel. 🥴

@RidingWithGerdas Год назад

4:28 doesn't it harm gear box or diff ?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

Nah mate. Good as gold. The gearbox electronics protect itself so if you try and put it in forwards when the wheels are still going in reverse it won't let you. That's why you let off the gas first, change direction, then the wheels are rolling forwards with the gearbox freewheeling with no power, into forwards, and away you go. And because the wheels are already moving in the right direction you don't need to use the brake to select drive. 😎👌

@emperorsanders5744 Год назад

Can you turn if x drive on and

@RickTheSpud Год назад

And?

@emperorsanders5744 Год назад

@@RickTheSpud and can we turn off x drive somehow on G30 without doing anything mechanical on it?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@emperorsanders5744 Not sure mate. You'll have to go into the settings on the idrive. I've just had the new M3 xDrive for a week and you can do it on that from the setup button. If not, you might be able to get it coded in from one these computer boffins like 'defined coding' etc...

@vollcare4076 3 года назад

Standard Suspension?!

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

Nah, think it's got the Motech springs and spacers treatment... 😎❤

@markyw7954 3 года назад

Skid pan? It’s like a feckin pond

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

😆 Don't want it drying out! Otherwise it's just a car park! 😉

@VinyZikss 3 месяца назад

is that bmw RWD or FWD?

@RickTheSpud 3 месяца назад

RWD mate. 👊

@VinyZikss 3 месяца назад

@@RickTheSpud thanks :) and wow that reply was quick

@RickTheSpud 3 месяца назад

👊 Lunch break... 😜😋

@wojtekpaplaczyk7642 2 года назад

He is not holding the steering wheel with one hand .. In a situation where you want to teach others

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

I was holding the steering wheel with one hand. 🤷‍♂️ Did you mean I'm not supposed to be? At some points I wasn't even looking where I was going! 😉😜 If you get the results then it doesn't matter. Drifting with grip then you probably should do. Check out my video at Learn2Drift, definitely 2 hands on the wheel then, except when I'm on the hydro! 😎👌

@Robert-gg2vk Год назад

Is that rwd or xdrive?

@RickTheSpud Год назад

RWD. All M140s are rwd as far as I know... 🤷‍♂️

@Robert-gg2vk Год назад

@@RickTheSpud there was xdrive version too. I think most of the sold 140s were with xdrive.

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@Robert-gg2vk In the UK? Never heard of an M140 xDrive.

@Robert-gg2vk Год назад

@@RickTheSpud I don't know whether in UK was only rwd 🤷. I am from Slovakia and you could buy xdrive version too. You can check wiki or any web related to car specs and you will find there m140i xdrive.

@RickTheSpud Год назад

@@Robert-gg2vk Ah OK. Yeah I reckon it was only rwd in the UK.

@michaelmcmullan2300 4 месяца назад

B. m. w. Bring my wallet

@RickTheSpud 4 месяца назад

😂👌

@a1enterprise405 2 года назад

Is this car x drive?

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

No buddy, M140s are just rear drive. The new M135 which sort of replaces it is X drive. 👍

@Fabi-fd8kv 2 года назад

@@RickTheSpud there are actually f21 140i with xdrive. I dont know about uk market tho.

@RickTheSpud 2 года назад

@@Fabi-fd8kv Oh really, like the new M240i? That's cool. 👌

@theoneudntknow1955 3 года назад

LSD?

@RickTheSpud 3 года назад

This car has an LSD, but the Goodwood Cars have no LSD and are exactly the same. The surface is so slippery it doesn't matter.

@legendgalaxy 3 года назад

LSD on the car ?? Presumably so.

@roadreg1820 3 года назад

Oh yes 😎

@legendgalaxy 3 года назад

@@roadreg1820 oh it's your car, didn't realise haha. I got my M-Perf LSD fitted just after your video.

@roadreg1820 3 года назад

@@legendgalaxy Yeah man! What a difference it makes. Hope you’re enjoying it with the diff fitted. Did you go for the MP?

@legendgalaxy 3 года назад

@@roadreg1820 yeah M performance one too. The back just loves to slide now, I was surprised in Sport+ how much it lets you slip... Transformed the car none the less! Just slightly worried for my driving licence now 😂

@roadreg1820 3 года назад

@@legendgalaxy Don’t it just. So controllable and predictable though. Also, in normal driving, you’d never be able to tell it has the diff installed. Almost feels like they should have given it one from the factory! Driving license.. what’s that? 😜😂