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Fourth video of a series about Motion on TVs - Motion interpolation
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(1/5) Motion Blur Pictures
(2/5) Black Frame Insertion and PWM dimming
(3/5) Response time
(4/5) Motion interpolation
(5/5) Judder
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@Ofasia777
@Ofasia777 5 лет назад
I almost understand this, good job.
@salenaroper3984
@salenaroper3984 5 лет назад
I feel like a Pre-Algebra student who's wandered into Physics II, but other than that, I appreciate the thoroughness of the video. It's at least helped me determine that I don't like Motion Interpolation, so that is not a feature I will look for in a TV. :)
@laurentlhoest8324
@laurentlhoest8324 6 лет назад
It's my favourite effect in games, it gives a "60hz" feeling. One question: is it possible to activate Motionflow in Game Mode on Sony LED and OLED tv's?
@Capybarrrraaaa
@Capybarrrraaaa 4 года назад
It'll add input delay and muddy the image. I woudn't recommend it for online games
@SoCalFreelance
@SoCalFreelance 5 лет назад
Seems like the solution is simple. Filmmakers need to shoot in higher frame rates. I would love to see the next Avatar sequels in true (not interpolated) 60fps 4K.
@sepsism138
@sepsism138 4 года назад
Like the Hobbit? That looked like garbage IMHO (at 48FPS), like everything was in fast-motion. Extremely unnatural.
@myman7336
@myman7336 4 года назад
You weren't paying attention. Faster frame rate is the problem for cinema. It shouldn't be used on movies else it'll create the soap opera effect. Doesn't matter if it's a mere interpolation or a native 60fps. It's just bad for movies.
@Silentship98
@Silentship98 6 лет назад
Hi Rtings I really like you channel and your website as well. I want to buy myself a new TV. I just send the LG 55uj6300 back to Amazon, because the blur really made me crazy. My main issue is blur. Since I dont have too much money, I was thinking of buying myself the Samsung 55MU8000. Will that TV satisfy me with the need of a Picture without blur, can you recommend it? So I basically just have to turn both sliders to max in order to get the least blurry picture, is this correct?
@jhonyhong1778
@jhonyhong1778 6 лет назад
My samsung 4k tv have motion setting /standard /clear / smooth / custom which one good? Thx
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
Which looks best and most comfortable to watch for you? Then that is the correct setting. If you can't notice any difference, then it really doesn't matter. The truth is, with modern televisions, most people cannot tell the difference unless they are looking to find it.
@johnguilfoyle7491
@johnguilfoyle7491 2 года назад
Is this a solution in search of a problem? Years ago stop-motion animators at ILM created a technique to avoid the choppiness of their creations. By moving the camera as each frame was being exposed, the image would blur in the direction of movement. The human brain would smooth out the blur and fill in the blanks. The technique was called Go Motion. We don't need an algorithm to rework what the best filmmakers on the planet have deemed appropriate.
@anil.yuvali
@anil.yuvali 4 года назад
This is hands down the best explanation of soap opera effect. Well done.
@TheCaptainhowdy11
@TheCaptainhowdy11 7 лет назад
Excellent reviews, this was very interesting. You guys are the best at these
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 4 года назад
It's not a review, it's a presentation
@KaustubhBansal
@KaustubhBansal 5 лет назад
what is the effect where some beards occasionally disappear (eg. 7:29) called?
@runito75
@runito75 5 лет назад
Come to sences-effect.
@jeffreygordon2298
@jeffreygordon2298 5 лет назад
shaving
@txdomino
@txdomino 4 года назад
Input lag. His beard hadn't caught up yet.
@VladQuake
@VladQuake 3 года назад
motion SMOOTHING
@trppy1573
@trppy1573 2 года назад
@@jeffreygordon2298 lal
@liquid79
@liquid79 5 лет назад
SIMPLE: Interpolation looks really amazing for nature shows and sports programs. Really gives you a sense of being there. And I turn it off when watching movies.
@user-nn4rd8cq2vmmkk
@user-nn4rd8cq2vmmkk 5 лет назад
true cinema
@Hammerhead1986
@Hammerhead1986 4 года назад
Yeah that shit cheapens the look of movies in my opinion
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 4 года назад
I want native 60, or even higher native movies. Size doesn't matter. I'll happily download 200GB. 24 fps looks like a slideshow, the small jumps are really obvious, and it's hard to tell what's happening...
@janisir4529
@janisir4529 4 года назад
@Selim Sultan Akbar the story sucks though
@Propynyl
@Propynyl 4 года назад
Makes football,baseball and puck disappear while on
@DeeeFoo
@DeeeFoo 7 лет назад
I feel like I'm one of the few people that like to turn frame interpolation on for everything. I mostly watch animations, so it doesn't really look like a soap opera.
@techyin326
@techyin326 6 лет назад
DeeeFoo howww?
@nowonmetube
@nowonmetube 4 года назад
@@techyin326 animated shows looks great with it
@Loophole23742
@Loophole23742 3 года назад
To each his own. I don’t fuck with soap opera effect. It makes all content look the same. It looks like you’re watching the actors on set.Lol. Have you ever heard an actor comment on how amazing the movies they are in looked after production? I mean when they comment on what it was like seeing the movie they spent months on, for the first time, once it was ready for screening. It’s because they’re aren’t viewing them with soap opera effect. Just sayin! The way the camera pans without soap opera effect or how a scene moves from shot to shot adds weight to the scene and adds emotion(emotional tone), specially when the panning speed suits the soundtrack. All that shit goes out the window when soap opera effect is implemented but as I said to each his own! There’s a reason the Hobbit sucked in the theatre after they shot the movie at 48fps as an experiment.(I’m shrugging my shoulders) www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-why-48-fps-fai-5969817/amp
@Azooe
@Azooe 3 года назад
Animation looks great with it
@SaltyMaud
@SaltyMaud 3 года назад
The only problem with motion interpolation is the artefacting. It's really good with animation, but it's getting pretty good with live action content as well. 24p has no place in the modern world outside intentionally low framerate aesthetic (hey, stop motion is a valid aesthetic too).
@a2.Milk85
@a2.Milk85 7 лет назад
This is hands down one of the best video explaining motion interpolation! Thanks Cedric! I have the KS8000 and I find my self only use the motion flow option when watching nature documentaries. I'm going to try this on the 4K planet earth 2 when it is out by the 28th March
@TheMagickBird378
@TheMagickBird378 5 лет назад
How did you lose and grow a beard so fast at the end of the video
@brucespringsteeen7090
@brucespringsteeen7090 5 лет назад
he probably said the N word in the original filming and then realized that he needed to redo it, but had already shaved. Thats what usually happens. The other option is he said something like "hi Pam," or Hey I got a text from Carol," but then realized his wife was watching, so he went and redid it.
@Azooe
@Azooe 3 года назад
@@brucespringsteeen7090 I agree
@Cinerous
@Cinerous 7 лет назад
The 2017 LG OLEDS are shipping this month! Hope to see a review soon, I'm really interested in the input lag numbers!
@danielrichardson1090
@danielrichardson1090 5 лет назад
Tom Cruise Told me to turn this feature off. So I now must. 😎
@DelrayCPA
@DelrayCPA 5 лет назад
or join Scientology
@bms77
@bms77 Год назад
Or just remain ignorant and simple and just convince yourself that it’s part of the UHD experience 😂😂
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 3 года назад
So THAT'S what that effect is. I genuinely thought that things were moving by faster. I loathe this effect more than I can put into words. It gives me a headache and messes with my eyes. I just thought it was because the thing I was watching was moving at 60 FPS till I played back two videos, one with this effect and one without and they moved at the same speed and the one without the effect looked better to my eyes and didn't make my brain want to evacuate my skull. Thank you for explaining, now I know what this is and how I can avoid it.
@douglasmatthews2334
@douglasmatthews2334 Год назад
60fps looks great for videogames. A part of me really wants to be able to enjoy the lack of motion blur. I hate motion blur, but I find a 60fps video is just off like you said. Maybe their is a middle point. Reduce the motion blur but leave some, best of both worlds?
@f__kyoudegenerates
@f__kyoudegenerates 10 месяцев назад
@@douglasmatthews2334 60fps looks fine for movies if they were filmed in 60 fps
@ghfudrs93uuu
@ghfudrs93uuu 3 года назад
Now I understand why my friends' big expensive tv always make stuff look terrible.
@mt1104uk
@mt1104uk 6 лет назад
I think calling high frame rate content having a soap opera effect is not fair to native high frame rate content. People have been misled by the industry into assuming high frame content has a soap opera effect - it does not if the video was shot at a native high frame rate. I'm not sure it's even by accident either, as producing native 60hz or 120hz content is a lot more expensive to do, and non of the broadcast standards are defined at those refresh rates, neither are cinemas. However all modern TVs are, so we have to deal with judder and stutter... Standards are defined when cinemas used projector with film, so had a built in "black frame insertion" so motion was perceived to be smooth, and when TVs were CRTs which again fired electrons at phosphorous to make it glow for a couple of ms then it started to dim, having the same effect as projectors. Standards haven't moved on with the technology 90% of people use to watch content. Just seems absurd to me.
@Capybarrrraaaa
@Capybarrrraaaa 4 года назад
I find the idea of the 'soap opera' effect completely stupid. Completely agree that for most people it's just their interperatation of bad video made by stuff like this TV. I all the TVs that falsely advertise themselves as 120Hz in a barely-legal kind of way. Anyone who get the soap opera effect is either an idiot who dislikes it because it's different, or an idiot that's misunderstanding it. Higher frame rates look better, action films look choppy. The amount of people I've heard say "it looks like it's in fast forward" is ridiculous, can't imgine how fast life must be going for them.
@VAIBHAV-fl6dl
@VAIBHAV-fl6dl 4 года назад
Exactly... It annoys me so much!
@VAIBHAV-fl6dl
@VAIBHAV-fl6dl 4 года назад
@@Capybarrrraaaa dude so true! Action films almost makes my head ache because of how choppy they look :/
@Capybarrrraaaa
@Capybarrrraaaa 4 года назад
@@VAIBHAV-fl6dl Same, when I went to see Endgame, the final action scene was torn up all over the place. With things flying around so much it just becomes a blurry stutter. I get the idea of having motion blur naturally from cameras but when Iron Man jumps across the screen in 3 blurry steps it just ruins the experience. Makes me question people who think they get the "soap opera effect" because I'm apparently getting the same thing with low-framerate video. The stutter stands out, and isn't that literally the only criticism of HFR, that it stands out?
@matheus5230
@matheus5230 2 года назад
That's because many modern TVs can't display 24FPS properly. Hopefully, that will be fixed someday, and we will be free of judder and stuttering. Motion smoothing is horrible and not a solution, it creates more problems than it solved, specially in hand-drawn animation (Bambi became unwatchable when I tested turning motion smoothing on), Noodle has a good video on this. Filmmaker IQ has two great videos on 24FPS and HFR. "Why 24FPS is here to stay in cinema" and "Debunking HFT myths".
@DNixon845
@DNixon845 5 лет назад
Forget 24fps and ridiculous 60fps video games. I prefer the silent movie era. 15 frames max or it’s crap!! Color TVs ruined everything! Less resolution and lose the HDR too. I want my busted black white tube back!
@xshadowscreamx
@xshadowscreamx 7 лет назад
TLDR: Good for panoramic shots, Bad for everything else.
@EtherMagic
@EtherMagic 5 лет назад
Nope, Samsungs Q series 2018 TV's have Motion interpolation in game mode when awitched on with lag at only 21ms!!! A first ever for TV's! Got me running RDR2 at 60fps at native 4K! It's awesome man!!!
@emptyclaw1265448
@emptyclaw1265448 5 лет назад
It actually keeps detail clear unlike a 24hz movie that looks like pure fucking garbage with screen judder all over the place. Any action movie in 24hz looks like trash you miss almost every motion in a mess of blur. 24hz is a old standard that was great it just gives a fake look and loads of judder and lose of detail in all motion.
@emptyclaw1265448
@emptyclaw1265448 5 лет назад
@@EtherMagic I been telling people about how amazing it is to play 4k games on the xboxone x using game motion plus
@GamezGuru1
@GamezGuru1 5 лет назад
@@emptyclaw1265448 it begs the question, why does Hollywood continue to persue ridiculous resolutions - undetectable to the human eye - but stick with a prehistoric frame rate which looks objectively shit?
@Silent_Shadow
@Silent_Shadow 4 года назад
@@emptyclaw1265448 yes. For gaming it improves the experience. I have a Q7 and Xbox One X, but for movies I turn it off.
@vickeytanenui
@vickeytanenui 5 лет назад
Soap opera effect causes beard lose!
@CaptPatrick01
@CaptPatrick01 7 лет назад
When I saw a clip of Avatar on a TV with motion interpolation I went cross-eyed and got a headache. I don't think my brain can interpret over 60fps on a flat, digital surface without my visual cortex going all *Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn* on me.
@rachelslur8729
@rachelslur8729 5 лет назад
Is this a joke? It's a scientific fact that 120
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
You underestimate your brain! Since in real life we essentially interpret everything at Infinity frames per second, the more frames per second are actually easier on your eyes and closer to what your brain is used to having as inputs. I'm not questioning your discomfort, you may not be used to it or maybe your eyes enjoy the vacation by taking in less information, or you are not blinking as often as is often the case when people stare at any screen. Most people could do well to turn the sharpness down on their televisions as well, there's no reason to have it on an artificially high setting that you can't discern from across the room, also can be hard on the eyes. Any slower and things should start to flicker like an old black-and-white movie before 24 frames per second was picked as a standard. It won't be too many years before 60 frames per second or 120 frames per second will be the standard, and hopefully higher still so we can get closer to what our eyes were meant to perceive.
@mikes5079
@mikes5079 5 лет назад
Which setting is better for motion sickness? That's my main concern. Too much camera movement which is very popular these days, ruins the experience for me because I get motion sickness. would love to find a way to reduce that. So, on or off setting ?
@GoogleUsedToLetThisNameBeLong
@GoogleUsedToLetThisNameBeLong 4 года назад
I'm gonna go ahead and take a guess at your 1 year old question and say that probably you would want it on. I'd imagine the judder with it's constant "stop and go" type feeling, and the added difficulty of concentrating on that moving object, is what would make motion sickness worse. But that's just a logical guess.... best I can do for ya since I don't share that particular problem.
@Paikerchu13
@Paikerchu13 2 года назад
Absolutely Off. Motion smoothing adds additional frames to shaky movement, increasing the frequency of visual information leading to appearing as though the motion is occuring at x2 speed in real time. Nothing gives me harder motion sickness than motion smoothing on tvs.
@callumshepherd2306
@callumshepherd2306 2 года назад
@@Paikerchu13 right! makes me nauseated
@jhamPlays
@jhamPlays Год назад
@@Paikerchu13 Even higher frame rates. Played PS4 for years and not once had motion sickness (30fps), then switching to PC (60fps) it doesn't take much more than a shaky Call of Duty scene to make me feel dizzy.
@MrMoo272
@MrMoo272 2 года назад
its weird how some people cant see the artifacting around fast moving object when interpolation is turned on. I cant have it on because I just see blocks appearing over stuff, usually at the edges of the screen but whenever I ask anyone else if they can see what I'm talking about, they cant see it.
@transsexual_computer_faery
@transsexual_computer_faery 2 года назад
people's brains are weird. and different.
@TheJARLATH1000
@TheJARLATH1000 6 лет назад
Why would anyone like or want the "Soap Opera Effect" for TV or movies? If you can't turn off motion interpolation, that is a deal breaker for me. On your reviews, you should say whether or not motion interpolation can be turned off as I have seen some, where it cannot.
@saulocirineuaraujo751
@saulocirineuaraujo751 7 лет назад
Wow! Very nice video! Very good explanation.
@JAYZ999
@JAYZ999 3 года назад
I don’t understand what makes 24fps cinematic, is it that that’s just what we’ve been used to and anything different looks weird? If we were used to 60 decades ago, would we say the same thing?
@BattleBladeWarrior
@BattleBladeWarrior 2 года назад
Thats a good point. We see in 60 hz essentially, so i think what makes movies look so different is when you drop it to 24 hz, like they normally do, it feels different. Not quite real, like its in another place. Whereas with the motion smoothing, it brings it back to exactly what our eyes see everyday, and that can make things look "cheaper" to a lot of of people, because it brings you back to reality. Same reason if you watch a tv sitcom, and then watch a soap opear. Sitcoms are filmed in 24 FPS, whearas soap operas are higher then that, and generally most people will feel the soap opera looks cheaper, because it looks so real.
@DontFuckWitDreDay
@DontFuckWitDreDay 6 лет назад
It's good for 4k porn. I can confirm.
@taradead
@taradead 6 лет назад
...add some fat-beat Goa Trance as a soundtrack and travel to hardcore new heights: "Camaro Kanitou" by Psygone "Naughty Moves" by Tandu "Sunrise Zone" by Radical Distortion "Daft Robot" by Electric Universe "Green Dreams" by Bypass Unit etc
@san_tient
@san_tient 5 лет назад
lmao in a 80inch tv
@JDOGFTW
@JDOGFTW 4 года назад
@@san_tient HUGE DICK OMG!!! the Semen is everywhere!
@ThatTallGuy2601
@ThatTallGuy2601 3 года назад
Basically switch on game mode or filmmaker mode to avoid the downsides
@jimmyrevtorp2698
@jimmyrevtorp2698 6 лет назад
Why not record at 60hz and tv manufacturers woudn't have to resort to frame interpolation... I can't look att 24hz video without frame interpolation. i looks like stop motion to me. anything to get the frames up helpes.. reality don't have motion-blur on that we follow with our eyes
@karltoontv
@karltoontv 7 лет назад
Hmm. I think this soap opera effect is good on games, but not good on movies.
@willdarling1
@willdarling1 6 лет назад
Should be using Game Mode for games.
@slazerlombardi
@slazerlombardi 5 лет назад
Games are usually 60fps. No need for the Opera effect.
@lucasrodriguesdasilva3480
@lucasrodriguesdasilva3480 4 года назад
@@slazerlombardi haha only on PC.
@slazerlombardi
@slazerlombardi 4 года назад
@@lucasrodriguesdasilva3480 are you living in 2008? Next gen consoles also run games 60fps+
@lucasrodriguesdasilva3480
@lucasrodriguesdasilva3480 4 года назад
@@slazerlombardi just some fighting games, the gigantic majority on PS4 is running 30 fps(mine is not the Pro i want get directly the PS5 next year).
@brandonw3499
@brandonw3499 2 года назад
I remember seeing a 4k tv for the first time at my aunt's house and watching a movie in it. It made me feel physically nauseous after an hour or so. It's strange how some people like the affect and it bothers others.
@transsexual_computer_faery
@transsexual_computer_faery 2 года назад
i can stand like 5 minutes , after that i tap out lol the WEIRDEST part is that most people don't even seem to notice it's there?
@IvanMilazzotti
@IvanMilazzotti 2 года назад
This video was very hard to watch not because is not well done or fake but because it showed me how wrong I was thinking that Motion Interpolation make the image better...
@xgvmx
@xgvmx 5 лет назад
I love the effect. l call it the Digital effect though. For the picture doesn't look analog. I didn't get a Digital TV for analog picture. Just sayin.
@ehyo9278
@ehyo9278 4 года назад
Yeah, that's why I avoided all those great big screen analog TVs you can get to put flat on your wall... But anyway, a movie shot digital is digital picture, even without the feature. With motion smoothing, you're just at a new hyper-digital level.
@justind8742
@justind8742 7 лет назад
can you please make a video on sony xbr930e
@tatitorodriguez376
@tatitorodriguez376 7 лет назад
Amen,...I love these guys and would love their opinion on the 930e,...I'm trying to decide between the 65 900e or 930d,..but in a perfect world I would of course get the zd9 but it's too much.
@Psyymann
@Psyymann 7 лет назад
Please do a video like this for HDR!
@makaveliq3
@makaveliq3 7 лет назад
Great video. However I always just turn that shit off. I think it's a waste of resources because he never makes the TV any better.
@yoyopoplondon
@yoyopoplondon 5 лет назад
beard on. beard off. beard on...
@MegaDominican
@MegaDominican 5 лет назад
ju-derrrr
@jerryx2000
@jerryx2000 3 года назад
LOL his voice has interpolation
@derrickaguren2237
@derrickaguren2237 5 лет назад
To me the soap opera look has NOTHING to do with motion; It's about bad lighting. No matter what settings on decent quality LCD TVs I've tried it looks like "actors stomping around on a set" to quote another poster. Every filmed show (except animation) looks like this and it is NOT correctable with image settings. I suspect it's an inherent characteristic of LCDs and the motion interpolation explanation is a distraction encouraged by the manufacturers to hide LCD's weaknesses. Seriously, why would motion artifacts remind one of an 80's soap opera? The soap opera look is about lighting, not motion.
@transsexual_computer_faery
@transsexual_computer_faery 2 года назад
it's psychovisual
@RobsRemixes
@RobsRemixes 4 года назад
Just a shame there isn't more "Smart" features in our smart tvs such as a mode that keeps auto motion off for most content but enables it when it detects things like sport shown on screen. Having to manually change it is a pain but it's better to keep it off and switch it on when watching sport imo. Also newer Samsungs have incredibly low input lag (My TU8000 TV has 8ms) but you have to disable Game motion plus, alot of people don't search for that option and complain about the lag.
@TheNicoandyou
@TheNicoandyou 6 лет назад
Is it a French canadian accent?
@bhatkrishnakishor
@bhatkrishnakishor 5 лет назад
It's the first time I am coming across French English accent 🙂
@vi2ciusvid446
@vi2ciusvid446 5 лет назад
I think this is not accent. It is just lack of interest in speak correctly. Its a trend now. speaks very bad english and then say they are suffering xenophobia and prejudice. (im not american and english is not my first language)
@charleenmanondods3443
@charleenmanondods3443 4 года назад
ah oui!
@mrs_plinkett
@mrs_plinkett 4 года назад
i found it very cute! never heard it before.
@confuzler6985
@confuzler6985 5 лет назад
can you make another video to explain what you said in this video?
@Metalhead-4life
@Metalhead-4life 4 года назад
Best comment ever
@FixedA
@FixedA 5 лет назад
I hate 24fps slideshow!
@estebansingh9411
@estebansingh9411 7 лет назад
i quite like it, don't know why everyone hates it so much
@TheMediaHoarder
@TheMediaHoarder 7 лет назад
Because if something was meant to be in a higher frame rate, it would have been shot that way!
@sbcavo4332
@sbcavo4332 7 лет назад
its more so that the artificial boost in perceived frame-rate makes what ever it touches feel unnatural and ghostly instead of crisp and naturally smooth
@calvinstulip
@calvinstulip 6 лет назад
sbcavo4332 well stated.
@TommyTMOD
@TommyTMOD 6 лет назад
eyeh8nbc Are you suggesting that lower frame rate is generally better ? :D What about 60 fps cameras ? If you think smoother picture is anyhow worse, then you should get your eyes checked. Dont get me wrong, I know this TV feature which is artifically boosting FPS looks weird, but damn, our natural vision is not constructed from distinctive frames, therefore reality is kind of equivanelt to literally infinity frames per second. Reason why movies was not shot in higher frame rates is lack of required hardware/money.
@zeth609
@zeth609 6 лет назад
Same here
@Solomace39
@Solomace39 6 лет назад
Great vid. I have a Samsung UE46D7000 in my living room and I've had it for over 3 years and love the "soap opera effect". I bought an LGUH661v for my man cave and tbh, I the SOE isn't as good as my 3 year old + Samsung. I'm selling it now after a year and buying another TV. Any recommendations on what I should look for to get the best Soap opera effect? Cheers.
@matheus5230
@matheus5230 2 года назад
That's because many modern TVs can't display 24FPS properly. Hopefully, that will be fixed someday, and we will be free of judder and stuttering. Motion smoothing is horrible and not a solution, it creates more problems than it solved, specially in hand-drawn animation (Bambi became unwatchable when I tested turning motion smoothing on).
@KevinMcgaw1988
@KevinMcgaw1988 4 года назад
Hey bro quick question. What's the best TV to buy with this smooth motion effect. I really like how it look like your watching a movie live. Saw my girlfriend TV and decided that I want one with that effect
@dennyhiett6271
@dennyhiett6271 4 года назад
Vizio m8 series has calibration setting called clear action. Best tv for the price, $600. Value tech cents has you tube channel that has best calibration settings.
@KevinMcgaw1988
@KevinMcgaw1988 4 года назад
@@dennyhiett6271 thanks for that info brother
@dennyhiett6271
@dennyhiett6271 4 года назад
@@KevinMcgaw1988 your welcome
@Tomohiko_JPN_1868
@Tomohiko_JPN_1868 5 лет назад
Mega Man : But i know you still love pixels. imgur.com/uMtZkCM
@CaseyDarwin
@CaseyDarwin Год назад
Has anything changed since this was published? Have the algorithms/processors improved much?
@rectomraider2704
@rectomraider2704 5 лет назад
24hz is a joke! One used to save money!
@ng6333
@ng6333 2 года назад
The main reason this was created IMO was the advent of 'smart tv's'. Meaning, at the time one would be exposed to poor video streaming sources which was most of the internet. You can see , most sports on youtube and similar sites is at 24-30 fps instead of 60. On DVD / bluray and even TV of decades back its no issue as the native FPS isn't changed. However on streaming its transcoded into 30 fps to save bandwidth and ensure compatibility with legacy players. This makes sports / news look like cinema; choppy , blurry etc. That is where this interpoliation comes in to play to 'fix' the low frame rate .
@geftiler2112
@geftiler2112 5 лет назад
Dis guy as a tick fench haxcent.... tabernac!
@niacal4nia
@niacal4nia 6 лет назад
What looks good to you is the best setting so ignore all these technical bullshit.
@jun9886
@jun9886 4 года назад
film makers should make more content with native 48 or above fps.
@BackLooking
@BackLooking 6 лет назад
I hate this. It kills the movies. If the director wanted to shoot the film in 60 frames, he would.
@WailOfDoom
@WailOfDoom 4 года назад
Awesome video. Hopefully we get some new updates on stuff like this since we got BFI OLEDs now etc.
@warpspeedpower
@warpspeedpower 4 года назад
Good info. I was waiting for "le, le, le" at the end of every sentence, but got disappointed tabernak, esti.
@1arkenton
@1arkenton 6 лет назад
What I wanna know, is why some shows will have that "soap opera effect" that I actually like... but other shows, sometimes on another channel, it won't have that nice super smooth look to it... matter of fact, it would start to jutter and shake a bit... Why??
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
Because most high-quality shows are filmed on actual film, less-expensive shows like soap operas are filmed on videotape or digital media and are often overlooked which makes them look bright and flat. Real film give things a slight softer touch and more of a depth because the background will be someone out of focus and on video tape normally everything is in focus from the near foreground to the background making everything look like it's on the same plane instead of giving a subtle 3D like effect like real film does.
@HH3222
@HH3222 5 лет назад
Who also came here because Tom Cruise video?
@frankmalenfant2828
@frankmalenfant2828 5 лет назад
Everyone
@jerms08
@jerms08 3 года назад
I feel like theres gonna be an exam after watching this
@pac-vy1nj
@pac-vy1nj 3 года назад
Please tell me a tv that has this effect. I love it
@daj5125
@daj5125 5 лет назад
"Soap Opera Effect" is the most lame nick-name ever given to a feature on a television. Frame-interpolation is the one of the best features ever created. I Won't Ever buy another tv or DLP projector without it. This feature has improved quite a bit since it's inception. Motion artifacts are minimal, and I would rather have minor artifacts than a juddery, blurry picture. In my opinion, People who say they "Hate It", for movies, have not given it a fair chance. I Own 35/70mm theater projectors and films, and 24fps is cool for film. Which was a compromise anyway to save expensive film. Fast enough for a watchable image, but not too fast to waste film. If the film industry shot at 48 frames or higher from the beginning, no one would ever have anything to say about frame interpolation. Even in digital film making, it's more of an economical choice than an artistic choice. I wish all movies were shot at 48fps or higher like Peter Jackson did with the Hobbit movies. Please do more Peter, then others will follow. But until then, I sincerely thank the ingenious Television engineers who though of it. Also, Please put 3D back into new TV's. I want a passive 3D OLED. Thanks for reading. P.S. Don't listen to Tom Cruise. He is a great, great actor, but in real life..........well...........er.............Scient..............um..........yeah.
@Voltaic314
@Voltaic314 7 лет назад
interpolation really is no substitute for actual framerate and pure hz value. this is where monitors and video games have television beat. because although framerates look different in a game engine, its still allows for virtually limitless framerates on monitors with up to 240hz displays. and i mean TRUE 240hz. no interpolation needed to display all of those frames at once.
@ilikeceral3
@ilikeceral3 5 лет назад
Why do soap operas use those cameras?
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
They use the same cameras as everyone else, the difference is you are noticing is in the lighting which is made even across the set, so they can film the scene from three cameras simultaneously to cut down on production and editing time. Normally you would light a shot and then if the camera angle changes you would shoot it again with the lighting adjusted. Soap operas don't have the time nor budget to do this, so they might everything brightly and evenly. Including the background in case someone needs to come in through a door. This broad even lighting tends to make things look bright and flat with few shadows to define depth and texture; that is the soap opera effect most people notice. It's essentially low-quality, fast television production filmed on video tape/ digital media instead of real film which enhances this overly bright, flat effect.
@vze21gwa
@vze21gwa 6 лет назад
Basically you should buy a 120HZ TV.
@digmsymii321
@digmsymii321 Год назад
Dear author, Please make an updated video. I suspect, things have changed in a while. =)
@thebossnocompetition8757
@thebossnocompetition8757 7 лет назад
Q7 what a joke! first i was wondering if you got the right model for your review LOL Worse than the KS series then?! what can i say back to the drawing table samsung. you dont get my money this time
@DDDE44
@DDDE44 7 лет назад
Wonderful explanation Congratulations on shaving, looks good
@A_S_K_3735
@A_S_K_3735 4 года назад
Just curious, is it the same feature available in some tv called memc.?
@asim6267
@asim6267 3 года назад
Yes, and in some TVs it is default and can not be turned off
@spinstartshere
@spinstartshere 5 лет назад
Your facial hair disappeared briefly towards the end!
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
You are mistaken, that must have been in the settings of your TV. Go to menu, settings, then stubble effect.
@steelgtr
@steelgtr 6 лет назад
I wish you would have show some real world content to compare SOE on and off in real time.
@JasonAvenger23
@JasonAvenger23 5 лет назад
Excellent explanation. Hahaha you go from beard to no beard then with beard again, just like how you explain the process. Haha
@takefivevideos
@takefivevideos Год назад
At long last a video that really explains the opera effect. Wish I'd found it earlier! Thanks.
@Tsunami_415
@Tsunami_415 7 лет назад
someone should start a GoFundme to buy Cedric a new t shirt :p
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
And elocution lessons.
@thebasketballhistorian3291
@thebasketballhistorian3291 5 лет назад
Lol, while watching this vid, I became obsessed trying to guess where this guy's accent is from. It kind of reminds me of Van Damme's accent.
@Mangobaango
@Mangobaango 5 лет назад
You're close. This is a French Canadian accent!
@TomPraytor
@TomPraytor Год назад
horrific voice. holy smokes. get anyone else.
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom Год назад
😂
@JDXOGG
@JDXOGG 4 года назад
What about when I turn on motion blur on a game? Test it with Fortnite. Prob get a lot of views. I’m curious to if motion blur is good in the game settings. It does make it look smoother.
@SweetHoneyMack
@SweetHoneyMack 7 лет назад
Bel accent québécois mon ami....
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
horrible, makes video unwatchable
@toniodotcom
@toniodotcom 4 года назад
@@Jack_Stafford Turn speech interpolation on, it will sound smoother :D
@matisvanasse7729
@matisvanasse7729 4 года назад
C’est ça que je pensais aussi ahah
@fernandokreutz03
@fernandokreutz03 7 лет назад
I'm having issues playing 25fps content on my H6400 TV due to unacceptable judder (it accepts 24p, 25p or 60p content). I have to enable auto motion plus, that ends up introducing artifacts on fast moving objetcs, but at least the content is acceptable. I believe this is more noticeable due to my TV having a 120hz panel alongside the power frequency in my country (60hz), but not sure.
@matheus5230
@matheus5230 2 года назад
That's because many modern TVs can't display 24FPS properly. Hopefully, that will be fixed someday, and we will be free of judder and stuttering. Motion smoothing is horrible and not a solution, it creates more problems than it solved, specially in hand-drawn animation (Bambi became unwatchable when I tested turning motion smoothing on).
@REALSlutHunter
@REALSlutHunter 6 лет назад
Watched Troja on some shitty Panasonic Plasma (200 or 300hz) with that fucking function. The Movie looked like a B Movie ! Absolute horrible and cheap ! People moved absolute surreal and like cyborgs, they looked like cut outs that where glued on absolute cheap cardboard scenery.
@deadhead8323
@deadhead8323 5 лет назад
I like the soap opera effect. I use it on all my movies, gaming and shows It's how i like it. Those who tell me wrong it's your opinion if you like it off that's fine as well. Some says it's not what the film makers wanted. Well it's my tv if it's enhancing my viewing experience I'll enjoy it how ever I want at the privacy at MY home. At least i can go see it at a friends house that has it off and not whine about it. Saying it makes them want to poke there eyes out. Or act like babies demanding that they remove it from all tvs. It's optional you literally have the option to turn it off. What gives you the right to want to take something optional away from others just because you don't enjoy it? If you came to my house and complained that i should turn the feature off. I would send you home because if it was vise versa i wouldn't bitch about it.
@BattleBladeWarrior
@BattleBladeWarrior 2 года назад
Same. Theres a lot of movies I rewatch when I go to my dads house, just because he has a tv that can do this. Especially with older movies/tv shows, (Starship troopers / star trek, etc) adding the extra frames through this process makes them all like they recieved a 4K remaster, its really great. That said, there are some drawbacks, for example, if you ever watch a character running in front of a fence, like a chain-link, or one with lots of lines, you can see the system struggle to draw the frames, and the background will not match the surroundings at all. And in certain fast moving scenes, depending how busy the background, you'll see that too. Other then that though, I find it very visually appealing, and I find the "Soap opera effect" just helps everything feel that much more real, like you're really there.
@transsexual_computer_faery
@transsexual_computer_faery 2 года назад
i'd use motion smoothing if the tech was better. my TV is from 2021 and cost around 2000 USD at full price and the smoothing effect is god-awful. and that is definitely the most expensive TV i have ever bought. i sincerely hope no one is making a moral issue out of this lol XD
@Droguez5
@Droguez5 2 года назад
Yes screen Daddy 🥵
@bms77
@bms77 Год назад
The biggest thing that baffles me w this effect are the folks who don’t notice anything different when it’s turned ON 😂🤦‍♂️. There’s nothing more obnoxious than going to a friends house or your parents house to watch a good movie and they have this setting ON. Totally ruins the movie and takes away any cinematic feel of the movie. Looks like it’s all “behind the scenes” images.. what’s even more annoying is when you attempt to talk to them about it to turn it off just for the movie and they claim that it looks great and say “welcome to UHD bro” 😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. How can people think this effect looks good at all?
@exmerion
@exmerion Год назад
Kinda funny when you search "Soap opera effect" You get a bunch of 30fps videos instead of 60 fps showing examples.
@Quetzalcoatl0
@Quetzalcoatl0 5 лет назад
Good news is that you can disabled 90% of the gimmicks and useless shit TV manufactures waste money on to create better marketing. Bad news is that there are some 10% that you can't touch unless in the service menus =/
@crism3lo
@crism3lo 5 лет назад
Is this guy a viking?
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
Nothing so exciting, just another Quebecer who speaks broken English.
@TheeIronJedi
@TheeIronJedi 3 года назад
KS8000 isn’t a 120hz pannel! Well at least mine isn’t.. Hooked my Series X to it and it says 120 isn’t supported. So I bought a LG CX.
@denissssss8579
@denissssss8579 4 года назад
Pls make a video about explaining stutter!!!
@spyro440
@spyro440 5 лет назад
All that wouldn't be necessary, if filmmaker would stop making movies that look like fast-paced slide shows at 24 fps. I wonder if they also resisted that hard when sound and color made it to the big screen. "It look too real", yeah, whatever. Couldn't hear that argument when 4K and 8K or higher color resolution made it into the theatres.
@gimmejokers3948
@gimmejokers3948 5 лет назад
i'm playing blu-rays through my PC to my Sony TV. Finally found the optimal middle ground for this set-up. I cant stand the stutter on the slow panning shots. To me it stands out just to much. For movies now i set it to 24hz on the GPU; Cinema Home; at Motionflow on User: Cleanrness "Min" and Smoothness you just increase from Min to whatever it takes for you to not notice judder anymore. For mine it was "2". Now it's not to heavy on that speed up effect of motion interp but also not so damn annoying on those wide shots. There's a reason the picture processors have all those functions. We have consumer TVs made usually for a bunch of purposeses and formats. You CAN'T watch it the way it was intended because you dont have the setup the movie maker made it on, all those arguments are nonsense to me. How would you know? I bet no director intends for their movie to stutter all the time (if it does on your setup). If you have like the best 24p TV and dont experience it: great for you. you dont need motion interp then. I do, though. Most importantly: ENJOY your movies (how ever that may be)
@Jack_Stafford
@Jack_Stafford 5 лет назад
This is the *correct* answer!
@dippin1523
@dippin1523 Год назад
TV manufacturers could give a shit less about how bad their 4 grand tvs look when watching movies. they could give two shits about how the motion gives most people headaches. this is a perfect example of technology making things worse. plasmas were much better tis for image rendering and motion. if there was a 4k plasma display I would buy it in a heartbeat.
@samuelcoelho6096
@samuelcoelho6096 3 года назад
Why do movies have to be recorded at such low quality shitty level like 24p? The image stutters so much that we lose a lot of detail, specially on action scenes. Maybe I'll never understand this. And it's easy to think it's just a budget issue covered with a lot of pretense glamoured by the cinema industry.
@ronthunders6124
@ronthunders6124 6 лет назад
i went into a tv and appliance store and saw the tvs and was seriously like “what the fuck is wrong with the tvs? they look fucking retarded and too fast or something”. The soap opera effect thing is just another form of people thinking more is better. Its godamn stupid. My advice is if youre a tv salesman, turn that shit off! its gonna make people not want to buy it. And who thinks it actually looks real? it doesn’t look real. It looks weird, not real, WEIRD.
@BROSCroMusic
@BROSCroMusic 6 лет назад
Stupid test. realistic motion effect at 60 hz tv is not needed... my tv LG49UJ701v when I turn the motion to a smooth picture then the motion effect is a real trouble
@retrochill6527
@retrochill6527 2 года назад
I’m older I guess and it took me a while to get use to it__i harped for a while saying bla bla 24 fps for movies…but now I can’t live without the smoothness of the “soap opera efféct”
@adroxorz
@adroxorz 4 года назад
Not Trying to be an ass, but this guys accent is a hybrid between Jean-claude Van Damme and Arnold Schwarzenegger. And I am ok with this 😎
@JDT859
@JDT859 2 года назад
i dont care what anyone says, higher frame rate is hands down better…. better motion, adds more depth to scenes… tired of these “traditionalists” and thinking that films should always been filmed at 24fps…. get over it, higher framerates are the future of cinema
@HDJess
@HDJess 3 года назад
I absolutely hate 24 or 30 fps movies so I can't live without this feature on my TV. 24fps movies also cause me headaches.
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