Socal Supermoto 5 Common Beginner Mistakes! 

Stoked to hear it! We hope to have more vids soon

Mk2Mike so how you liking the SM comped to the sport bike ? I'm a dirt bike guy gonna get a sport bike for the 1st time prob gonna be awkward for me lol I have only ever rode supermoto's on the street prob going to get a FZ-07 or GSX-S not sure yet

Brake more lean more try not to put your foot out, you'll do well on a sports bike, just less engine braking more hard on the front brakes.

Mk2Mike you might know exactly what I'm saying here, so I'll ask you It's a hard transition from sport bike riding. With that said, I'm just learning now and I still really want to keep my feet pushed down on my pegs, all my weight on the inside, lowside of the bike- as you likely already know, this transfers right to the tires making them way more stable. Does this principal simply not apply on supermoto riding? 2. Are there any guys who ride like this? I just don't want to lowside my bike. I've never been too crazy about counter steering because it puts you on the high side of the bike. The increasing weight from the g force of the corner is then naturally thrown to the outside of the bike, instead of the inside right to the tires. Different animals I'm thinking, but I still wanna know, thanks

coming from a sport bike the leaning feels awkward, this vid is super helpful thanks!

Thanks Tom, look forward to riding with you!!!

I'm planning a trip this winter as well! I wish there were more schools/cart tracks in the midwest, but a nice little vacation is much needed for me and long overdue. I can't freaking wait to catch some air!

Ha, I turned off the douchey just long enough to make the vid! Seriously though we don't do that "we're the experts listen to us" crap.

@@socalsupermoto LOL

Lol my stock xr650r will stop itself with the engine brake.

Samuel Jackson my exc 125 will blow up if I engine brake xD

Supermotos in the racing sense are generally larger bore 4 strokes that have engine braking. Not saying a two stroke can't be Roden on the street as a supermoto but racing class's are generally 450cc and up 4 strokes.

Glen Irani Thanks Glen, hope to see you back out one of these days.

oops that was my wife's account. Thanks!

:D

Ha! Well I'll post up a vid of doing. Some wheelies through downtown and boost up those numbers.

NOOOOOOOOO...Wit, what am I saying, yes. Do that... and then teach me something about real riding, lol.

+SuperDuperMoto you deserve wayyy more subs too!

Thanks! I wished I had a cool intro or better production capabilities. I'm too busy with a fulltime job, my own business, kid and getting a masters to invest the kind of time that would be necessary to push my channel over the edge.

Everyone has to start somewhere

We'd love to have you out Jerry! We learn a bunch from our students as well!

Thanks buddy! We'll have a new batch of freshies coming soon!

No worries there. Most riders are faster foot out but nothing wrong with knee down. Ask the haydens.

MIL-SPEC Racing true. I only like riding Supermoto foot out and knee down :)

+John Brisbane Glad it helped! If you're able to come out for a school day!

+bobby wasabi because a supermoto bike will out supersport the supersport bike. they handle better, flick faster, and brake harder. these are not "dirt bikes", they are the right tool for the job. a supersport bike will accelerate faster. so on big tracks sportbikes have the advantage, small tracks and tight canyons supermoto has the advantage. that said a friend set the 650 class record on a 450 supermoto. Picture a veyron vs a wrx in a parking lot and you'll get the idea. It's just a dual sport with the empasis on asphalt rather than dirt, and in reality a dual sport set up for street is often a better street bike than a streetbike. ignore how they look. this isn't fashion like drifting, these are the most effective tools for going around tighter tracks very fast.

You pretty much covered everything there lol

"Picture a veyron vs a wrx in a parking lot and you'll get the idea", quality, im definitely not going to steal that phrase or repeat it like i made it up first.....

I hope so. Thanks for watching!

glad to hear it!

Officially best review evar!!!

Yeah most supermoto vids drive me nuts. We make our living from the school, not youtube so we'll try and keep it useful and clickbait free!

Aw thanks man!

for sure!

5thnpinned Thanks buddy!

+Sam #1 isn't about the age old leg out vs knee out debate. We do an entire session on when/why/where foot out vs knee down which is dictated by the track and preference. We teach foot out simply because most riders will be faster foot out. BUT #1 isn't about that. #1 is about mixing the two styles. Riding foot out, but with your butt, shoulders and leg in the wrong postion. ie riding foot out, but mixed up bs with shoulder hunched and ass too far back. I don't correct proper kneedown riding.

dammit my wife was signed in again. that's me, aka brian the guy in the vid.

nonsense

except for the french part

I have a go kart/ supermoto track about 40 minutes away from me and you can do both in the same track.

As a fan of your channel, I am curious how much supermoto riding you did and how it contributed to your skill today. I know the DRZ is heavy and underpowered compared to those in its class, but did you still take it to the track?

Come on out! Fall is amazing out here

Jc c9 awesome. Look forward to having you. Bikes are gassed and ready whenever you are!

Thanks!

I can speak 5 languages on a decent level but not perfect, 4 of which i use on a daily basis. I really hate making mistakes, so i always double check when writing something. This one got away. I can't apologize enough for this. I know you got better things to do than correct people online, but you did and that's invaluable. I'm truly blessed.

Oh look at you with your big brain and "5 languages". Who cares?

+Artie Ziff it was merely to point out that i make mistakes while using other languages. It was never my intention to hurt anyone's feelings, but hey here we are. I see you're impressed with someone speaking 5 languages. It's not that special and it doesn't require "big brains". Which doesn't mean i'm not awesome. This comment was not aimed at hurting anyone and contains no irony or sarcasm.

Right on!

James Kuei I'm late but for anyone else... it's to prevent the front tire from washing out of and dropping the bike

Thanks!

Depending What the problem is

two tips. just go knee up slightly, foot forward slightly. that's it! no drama. the other tip is simply kick the apex since most new riders leave their foot out too long

no dont do that

Thanks! we'll keep em coming

Im no smoker expert but I don't change much, simply use a touch more back brake to compensate for no engine braking

what engine braking

I have a crf250l and a WR450f. The crf wins for comfort, on and off road, very low maintenance requirement and just feels way more at home on the road. However it really lacks power once you get up some speed. Super fun in tight stuff like traffic or really tight twisties. The WR has was more power, lighter and handles off road way better with the adjustable suspension. However it feels awkward on road being so tall and twitchy in the throttle with so much low end torque and no weight. Everyone of my bike friends accidentally wheelied it first go every time and some of them ride supersports with many many more ponnies. It also has poor fuel range, and needs an oil change quite often, valve checks etc. So I pick the WR for some more extreme fun or stunting and the CRF for everyday riding, cruising around or longer trips. The WR is great fun but gets uncomfortable quick and wears me out. The CRF is just so much more easy and relaxing to ride. To answer your question if you want an everyday little city bike, commuter or just like cruising around it's great. It can do wheelies and stuff but it struggles. If you want to be doing wheelies all the time or racing then no the CRF is probably not the best.

rad!

I get that daily. And at the skatepark I have to tell kids I'm not Tony.

no he said place the body on the other side when you open the leg out not when you are using the knee

right, keep doing what you do drew, you alreadty know

GroovyVideo2 you'll need to inform every Supermoto pro rider of this insight.

they know - look for yourself - putting foot down is used less every season- look at a video from 5 yrs ago and watch this yrs race footage think you will see what I mean - couple more seasons it will be thing of the past - took me about 3 months to completely break habit of putting foot down - made me 1/3 faster - works in dirt too

mini moto favors a kneedown style for most people

Thats not fully true. With the customized Mx bikes like exc supermotos you have the "problems" with oil and service overall. Supermotos like the Smcr 690 are just like normal bike engines

+bullet ben the 690 ktm supermoto for sure. the duke may put you more into a sportbike riding position. There's no hard rule, experiment with both and do what feels more comfortable. The main thing is to not mix the styles such as foot out, ass on the back of the seat, to the inside of the seat with your shoulders hunched. or crossed up knee down. Just make sure you do proper sb bp or up on the tank supermoto position.

I ride a third gen 690 Duke and say these tips would definitely apply to the bike. I think the third gens are supermotos. The fourth gen Dukes are more of a sportbike/naked bike

get a licesne

Most riders are smooth on input, and chop outputs. Simply ride so that the suspension doesn't move and it will automatically smooth your hand inputs.

We answer that in detail in the school. The short version is you give up mid corner suspension/traction, and gain on braking, turn it, exciting the turn and setting up for the next turn. There is nothing wrong with foot out or knee down, just advantages and disadvantages of both.

usually on a fast sweeper you can be mid seat but almost never on the back

nothing wrong with foot out or knee down, but the leg dangle mid corner will end up breaking your ankle eventually. Nobody rides like that, but it is a common newbie mistake.

@@socalsupermoto ofc that's weird i think i misstimed or something...

jetcarq both have advantages and disadvantages. Most riders are faster foot out

I feel very uncomfortable when i lean in on my DRZ. It's a way better feeling if i put the foot out. On my cbr 125 (yeah, not a real sport bike) that i rode 2 years i always leaned in. So i think it has a lot to do with the seatposition.

I feel safer knee out, foot out is a bit difficult to me as I have long legs and my drz 400 is not that tall. On track I ride fast and simple corners knee out, it's faster and just feels right. You can't cheat physics, your bike will be more upright when center of mass is lower... so in the end you can ride faster. However tight turns with hard breaking I ride with foot out with backing it in if lucky :)

The internet supermoto police will tell you only foot out. The real answer is there are advantages and disadvantages to both, and whatever you feel most comfortable with will be safer and faster for you. That said, most riders are faster foot out.

pretty much all roads, you see the same mistakes

@@socalsupermoto thanks ☺️ So to be clear: if I am riding street/twisties and my gixxer buddy is leaning like Rossi, I'm riding supermoto gonna turn like you showed in this video, body more upright, etc? I'm new to SM so wanna practice the right method from day 1. I'm certain people will say "why you don't lean inside?", my answer is "because this supermoto 😁".

+SUMOCAT just put the bike down and try to get the pressure on the outer footpegs ,so your weight pushes more from above on the tire, and doesnt work sideways against the tire like the bikes weight is already doing it !

okay, thanks for your response!

Munchy Munchy dude you skipped too many pyshics classes