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Socrates' Trial: The Account They Didn't Tell You About 

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@yuli1970
@yuli1970 Год назад
Ay man, I love these, I would pay for a whole movie on The Republic by Plato with modern speech
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thanks, brother! The Republic is in the works and tips are more than welcome It's fairly long, so it will be a series.
@jichaelmorgan3796
@jichaelmorgan3796 Год назад
​@LegendaryLore-dx5xl wow thank you for this channel and content. I will look forward to your series on the republic!
@Sassofrassquatch92
@Sassofrassquatch92 Год назад
Dude, these are absolutely fantastic. The Death of Socrates by Jacques Louis David has always been my mental picture of Socrates. I've always wondered what gave him the strength and tenacity to look death so directly in the eyes, and you gave it the update it needed to put it into perspective for me. Nice job, homie. Keep these up, please.
@If-I-Only-Had-a-Brain
@If-I-Only-Had-a-Brain Год назад
From first hearing this story as a child, I felt it a damning testimonial to the greatness of man.
@dyotoorion1835
@dyotoorion1835 Год назад
"Wisest is he who knows what he does not know." :-) Glad I found this channel. Looking forward to listening to more of these videos. Cheers!
@johnpatterson6448
@johnpatterson6448 Год назад
Socrates had a right pair of bollocks on him. And self-esteem doesn’t seem to be a problem.
@andresmaynez3060
@andresmaynez3060 Год назад
You should make a modern account of Alexander the great speech to his troops when they revolted or the speech of the Roman legionnaries that revolted against caesar in norte africa
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thanks for the suggestion, friend! I've now added both to the list.
@NuMindframe
@NuMindframe Год назад
That would be amazing! Excellent suggestion
@tomjackson4374
@tomjackson4374 Год назад
@@TheLegendaryLore Please add Cicero to the list.
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
@@tomjackson4374 Cicero's De Officiis is on the list, but it's pretty long and will take some time to do.
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Alexander's speech is now published :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_XAvQPnpZro.html
@sudarshanbadoni6643
@sudarshanbadoni6643 Год назад
In fact cognitive excellence is what becomes the question and Socrates clears that test with " critical thinking " endeavors throughput life attempting to next generations to " think different " a buzzword existing present times of amazing development. Thanks. Socrates is my everlasting motivator since long.
@lukiso5734
@lukiso5734 Год назад
This channel is a rare gem of the internet.
@alwayshere6956
@alwayshere6956 Год назад
You might also like exurb1a
@7heplague236
@7heplague236 Год назад
@@alwayshere6956 I went to check it out...turns out I'm already subscribed 😅
@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602
@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602 Год назад
Yesterday I finally had time to go see Oppenheimer. One of the themed things in the movie is the strategic use of Administrative Law for political ends. The process depicted in the film, through which the US state refused to renew the scientist's national security license, was a farce. During the instruction, the scientist did not have the right to defend himself properly. Only at the end did Oppenheimer learn that the process was initiated because of the letter sent to the FBI by an adversary who was convinced that the scientist could be a communist spy or, at the very least, suspected of having facilitated the espionage in Los Alamos. The evidence collected during the summary instruction was of no importance for the decision, because the result had been prearranged. The similarities between the process portrayed in the film and what happened to Julian Assange in England are evident. The WikiLeaks journalist is also the victim of a judicial farce. He was wrongly arrested in and cannot be treated as a spy in the US because he published information that all the major newspapers in the world also published. The process that resulted in Lula's unjust conviction and imprisonment in Brazil was also a shameful example of the strategic use of Law for political ends. The same can be said about what is happening with José Sócrates in Portugal. Keeping due proportions, the case of Socrates in Athens ran into the same problem: the denial of justice through accusations that can at least be called absurd and unjust. His process appears to have been less fraudulent, but the philosopher's conduct indicates that he knew the outcome was predetermined.
@elsenored562
@elsenored562 Год назад
6:30 ... and who would you say is wiser than a person who's never stopped seeking and learning good things ...?
@alwayshere6956
@alwayshere6956 Год назад
We are always students, learning from each other. Some are further down some paths than others, but there's seldom a consistent test of wiseness in our world
@Callisto_Arcas
@Callisto_Arcas Год назад
Another great journey!
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
I happy you enjoyed it!
@tomjackson4374
@tomjackson4374 Год назад
From the first time I read Plato's Apology until now that trial enrages me. It is the clearest proof that unbridled democracy is not always a good, and how brilliant our Founders were to put checks in place to protect us. And certainly it was not the only time that the Athenians condemned innocent men, talented men, who could have contributed so much to that great city. Athens deprived itself of the most valuable asset any man or city or business could have, a truth teller, unbiased by petty motives. A great man whose wisdom lives on was brought down by the basest reason, petty jealousy, and it is fitting no one remembers the names of his accusers.
@horus4862
@horus4862 Год назад
That was Awesome! Thank you
@arielcandoleta5347
@arielcandoleta5347 Год назад
I'm thinking a Christopher Nolan level of producer/director should make a film out of this.
@wiseonwords
@wiseonwords Год назад
@arielcandoleta5347 - The woke, feminist, CRT, LGBTQ+ reviewers would have a field day!
@joek600
@joek600 Год назад
then he would be canceled because a fat black trans lesbian in a wheel chair was not cast as Socrates
@danfrankkuhn
@danfrankkuhn Год назад
Great introduction to your project! I subscribe! You really should give credit to whomever is doing your incredible illustrations! How are they made? Are they paintings? Theater? Photoshop? AI? The hair! My god!
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Год назад
I was going to ask that as well.
@teddyhilentzaris6944
@teddyhilentzaris6944 Год назад
Quickly became one of my favorite channels! Keep it up
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 Год назад
Cant wait for more amazing content from this channel!
@Butschrick
@Butschrick Год назад
I am very impressed with your channel. Looking forward for more content.
@user-yy8sz3rg9n
@user-yy8sz3rg9n Год назад
The 'divine voice' thing was so perfect. Not an actual voice, like the bird thing.
@kern77
@kern77 Год назад
nice channel, subscribed
@thomasvieth578
@thomasvieth578 Год назад
Your title is utterly misleading because Xenophon's accounts on everything pertaining to Socrates and extant is readily available in any Library you care to visit together with his Anabasis. Xenophon is not some obscure writer that nobody has ever heard of
@tim71pos
@tim71pos Год назад
You are right to give Xenophon his due. But consider that in Elizabethan theater there was Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare. To say that Xenophon is less well-known is not to insult him. It's just a fact that he was very good and very interesting as opposed to a genius of the ages. Marlow to Plato's Shakespeare.
@horus4862
@horus4862 Год назад
Thanks!
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thank you so much!
@nppatel8640
@nppatel8640 Год назад
fantastic commentary !
@hackedtechnothief
@hackedtechnothief Год назад
you have motivated me to learns more about philosophy I have been such an ignorant for a long time
@MrEverth007
@MrEverth007 8 месяцев назад
Every time i hear this enlightening stories about Socrates, it makes me feel like i am feeding the soul with the best food of intellectual thought
@user-ve9ix7ew6z
@user-ve9ix7ew6z Год назад
This was beautifully done! Thank you!
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thank you too!
@katiekk
@katiekk Год назад
Best video on RU-vid.
@fredcrown-tamir698
@fredcrown-tamir698 Год назад
For me, the thing I have learned from this , is that God appears in many ways. Truly, the divine spoke through this man.
@stevenfroehlich744
@stevenfroehlich744 Год назад
love is a magnet once attached to , even time won't let it go
@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid
@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid 11 месяцев назад
I love when he used the strong argument: "Isn't it odd that in all important matters we think logically and critically. But in the most important matter, the gods, we resort to guesswork and fallacies?" Also cool is slavery was a capital offense. Compare that to the Roman Catholics who 500yrs later canonized slavery as an institution, with severe beatings and family splitting.
@caminoalavirtud
@caminoalavirtud Год назад
Thank you🙏🙏
@wendysalter
@wendysalter Год назад
Oh, Socrates, if only we could hear you today... But wait! We have our friend at Legendary Law to speak for you! Thank you
@aanii2878
@aanii2878 Год назад
Good men are rarely honored in their own country 😢
@Azihayya
@Azihayya Год назад
There's more to this story than this guy is telling you. Xenophon was sympathetic of Sparta; he went on to serve Sparta after the Rule of the Thirty. Five of Socrates' students were connected to the Rule of the Thirty, and two of them, Critias and Theramenes, were directly responsible and the highest leaders of the short -lived oligarchy of the Thirty. Another one of Socrates' students, who he had a pederast relationship with, was Alcibiades, who was fiercely hated after the Rule of the Thirty, and whose father was Pericles, the Democratic leader of Athens that Socrates had a lot of criticism for. Plato blatantly admitted that he was admittes into the Thirty, and came up with apologetics after the rule collapsed and his loyalties were questioned. Then he wrote The Republic, a defense of authoritarianism. Socrates wasn't a hero; he was a charismatic snake, and what he's presented to you here is a complete obsfucation of the issue that he was actually being convicted for. Many people were forced to drink hemlock in the wake of the Rule of the Thirty--but somehow we've come to think that he was condemned for being an outspoken philosopher. Don't call pederasts and traitors of democracy heroes.
@aanii2878
@aanii2878 Год назад
@@Azihayya He was a pederast 😳. Nuff said... drink, drink, drink!!! I'm not familiar with the storyline. He simply sounded like an anti-establisment, humble dude and if that establishment was anything like the current one, kudos. Thanks for the Lebowski vernacular 😂
@Azihayya
@Azihayya Год назад
@@aanii2878 I mean, we tend to forget that ancient Greece was a patriarchal aristocracy built on the labor of slaves. It's difficult to say that anyone was a hero of that time, yet we've developed a really odd admiration and nostalgia for ancient Greece nevertheless.
@JohnDoe-yk3ji
@JohnDoe-yk3ji Год назад
All political systems are oligarchies at their core, more patriarchal societies perform better than less patriarchal ones all else being equal, and slavery is completely acceptable when you don't want to kill a hostile population or when the slavery conditions are better than leaving them in the wild. Plato is based, and Socrates is a hero.
@Azihayya
@Azihayya Год назад
@@JohnDoe-yk3ji You're just an authoritarian sympathizer. Only the most despicable people are going to agree with you. What you believe is beneath contempt; your stupid backwards ways will naturally die away and there really isn't anything that you can do to stop it. It's interesting that people like you will take a stand to validate everything that I'm saying, though, to the chagrin of many of your more moderate contemporaries.
@tommac8556
@tommac8556 Год назад
A mate of mine was told to 'get out of Belfast and never come back or die'. And he replied 'Aye, well you lot are going to die in Belfast so who's the c***?'. (Sic)
@InTheSystem33
@InTheSystem33 Год назад
Loved it thank you 🙏
@bruetal1266
@bruetal1266 Год назад
awesome
@NotNormalJon
@NotNormalJon Год назад
MSSP Brought me here. Aint ashamed of it dawgs.
@davidemanuel6840
@davidemanuel6840 Год назад
He died a hero, not living long enough to see yourself become a villain... What a gent...
@corryjohnson6591
@corryjohnson6591 Год назад
Love It 🎉🎉🎉
@A_Small_Seedling
@A_Small_Seedling 9 месяцев назад
This is amazing
@mikhailonyekachi2240
@mikhailonyekachi2240 Год назад
You see! Its proof! Socrates knew what a truck was! ANCIENT HIGH TECHNOLOGIES!
@signoguns8501
@signoguns8501 Год назад
Love how AI thinks everyone in the ancient world looked like George Clooney
@danlhendl
@danlhendl Год назад
Try doin' that nowadays at a Starbucks, waving around a Hemlock Frapacinno and see whose impressed 😮
@ilqar887
@ilqar887 Год назад
Where these pictures come from¿is there a movie¿ anyone¿
@ThomasButler-sp4ro
@ThomasButler-sp4ro Год назад
Socrates died for out sins...lol.
@discobolous
@discobolous Год назад
Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse. - Socrates
@klausehrhardt4481
@klausehrhardt4481 Год назад
Picture someone is got caught in the act of doing something embarasing, mean or even wrong. How would the socratic warcry sound then, huh? We all know quite well enough a lot of things we would gladly hide at times while presuming another lot of things we know not. Socrates was engaged in debunking pressumptions and not teaching others to talk themselves out of troubles. It would not surprise me if that famous saying would be found as Plato's words eventually.
@richoneplanet7561
@richoneplanet7561 Год назад
Socrates must a been a pretty hip cat to use the word awesome
@alexandralibin5131
@alexandralibin5131 Год назад
Watching this presentation is like attempting to watch some news broadcasts, where they often spend more time 'selling the news, then telling the news'.
@CannedMan
@CannedMan Год назад
Please explain.
@lukiso5734
@lukiso5734 Год назад
I guess the presentation does "sell the news" but I wouldn't say more than telling the news.
@fredcrown-tamir698
@fredcrown-tamir698 Год назад
Moses was one hundred and twenty years old when he died. His eyes were not dim nor his natural vigor diminished. We need not fear growing old if we trust in our Lord.
@fuckoffgoogle1657
@fuckoffgoogle1657 Год назад
Waaaay way better than the last video I just watched on this trial. Pacing was better here. The dialogue was overall, better written too. Leaving out unnecessary garnish words that the English language loves nowadays is just for the best.
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thanks, brother. We're still learning :)
@waltercolor6969
@waltercolor6969 4 месяца назад
I guess you're right
@RayT70
@RayT70 Год назад
Cool guy 😎 👍
@ericneilson1198
@ericneilson1198 16 дней назад
Did Xenophon really say the word "awesome" in his commentary?
@dylanpyle6500
@dylanpyle6500 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately people never learnt from him
@billydakid71
@billydakid71 9 дней назад
Everybody on this planet was once black.
@rev.stephena.cakouros948
@rev.stephena.cakouros948 Год назад
In seeking knowledge never leave out Christ the light of the world.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Год назад
Not even when he doesn't pertain to the subject or add any knowledge of it?
@7heplague236
@7heplague236 Год назад
What about the Anunnaki of Sumerian lore? The Book of Genesis was derived from the Sumerian 'Enuma Elish' tablets. And the great deluge told in their Epic of Gilgamesh.
@7heplague236
@7heplague236 Год назад
@@davidhoffman6980 I suppose some would try to argue "if it doesn't pertain to Christ or God then it is of no importance."
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 Год назад
Xenophon my favorite pagan, He wrote a book on Socrates, but Plato was better, he wrote a book of history, but Thucydides was better, and he did a great miliary. exploit, but Alexander was greater.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Год назад
What do you mean by "better" and "greater" and how can we determine that?
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 Год назад
@@davidhoffman6980 Might just say better known.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 Год назад
@@jamessheffield4173 I see.
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 Год назад
@@davidhoffman6980 Yup. Blessings.
@7heplague236
@7heplague236 Год назад
@@jamessheffield4173 Dave Mustaine started a band but James Hetfield was better...known -- oh you're a Heffield not a Hetfield, my mistake 😅 hope you enjoy their bands anyway.
@Hardball1Alpha
@Hardball1Alpha Год назад
Never teach them how to write...
@nathanielziering
@nathanielziering Месяц назад
Classical cancel culture.
@babblingidiot7903
@babblingidiot7903 Год назад
I like this youtube channel. Can you make hr long videos?
@TheLegendaryLore
@TheLegendaryLore Год назад
Thank you, friend. Plato's Republic is in the works, but it's going to be around 16 hours, so it takes a while to do.
@babblingidiot7903
@babblingidiot7903 Год назад
@TheLegendaryLore thanks for these marvelous videos! I'm sharing this channel with comrades.
@deeppurple883
@deeppurple883 Год назад
They had truck's back then. 🏛️☘️
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