I’m 1 of the 3 who doesn’t know Mr Dykstra, PhD. I’m wondering the RU-vid world trying to find information on this subject, I am so happy I found Soil Works as a producer and a farmer
This is a good conversation The easy way for me talking with other Farmers to Define regenerative farming is are you moving your soil forward a little each year in health or are you maintaining dead non-functioning dirt
😊totally correct. Forest is Hugh because of mulch n shade water seedling n sun grows wild. Farming is a forest of different scale. Scales or parallel 🤔
I'm a non-farmer; however, I do see a major difference between Organic Agriculture and Regenerative Agriculture. Organic Agriculture is simply Conventional Agriculture without the use of synthetic fertilizers/x-icides, rather the use of "natural" products. (Sustainable in my view is synonymous with Organic). Whereas Regenerative Agriculture is all about re-building soil with the goal of removing all synthetic and/or "natural" fertilizers/x-icides. It is looking at how nature works and emulating as much as possible, including the use of animals as an integral part of re-building the soil life.
I should add that I've been fascinated by Thomas's work ever since hearing him on John Kempf's podcast. And I've really enjoyed learning from Glen since finding him here on yt recently. Your take on calcium, phos, carbon, oxygen and hydrodgen is so practical and something i will incorporate into my understanding and practice. Plus, being salty, outspoken, and comedic adds a lot to the delivery.
@RAG_KR I was simply commenting on Glen's approach to getting soil functioning properly-watch any of his videos he pretty much says the same thing. As for Thomas Dykstra's podcast with John Kempf-look up "regenerative agriculture podcasts Thomas Dysktra".
A great example of the war of words. Language aside, the management of production of food or fibre on land or in water needs to be outcomes based. A positive outcome environmental, socially and financially. I think it would be safe to say that 99% of production falls short of positive outcomes for all 3. That is why "regenerative" (or call it what you like) agriculture, regardless of what definition is acceptable, will continue to be dismissed by the general population until their existence depends on it.
This was fantastic. I have struggled with this ambiguity in defining "regenerative" agriculture. Its a keyword or buzzword that ive used to attract clients for my consulting business. But it has been co-opted by the ecozealots and WEF types which is frustrating. I often define it first by context and mindset, then a set of principles to guide decision making so as to improve plant and soil health, which ultimately leads to better ecosystem health.
The dangers of semantics and the inherent problem with words losing their meaning cannot be overstated. When definitions constantly change or lack a set standard, communication becomes muddled and ineffective. George Orwell's *1984* highlights this issue through the concept of Newspeak, where language is manipulated to control thought and suppress dissent. This erosion of language leads to a society where words lose their value and meaning, resulting in what can be described as "word vomit." To counter this, it's crucial for parties with differing viewpoints to come together and agree on clear, consistent definitions. This ensures that words retain their meaning and can be used effectively in discourse. By fostering open dialogue and mutual understanding, we can preserve the integrity of our language and prevent it from being metaphorically prostituted.
Regenerative Agriculture is well defined by the founder Gabe Brown. The 6-3-4. 6 Principles of soil health. 3 rules of adaptive stewardship, and 4 ecosystem processes. The reason these two do not want to acknowledge Regenerative Agriculture is because they don't want to let go of some of thier dead practices that are in stark contrast to these principles, such as tillage. Glen talks about intelligent tillage. There is no such thing. Tillage destroys soil structure, period.
Gabe Brown is great at discussing the what and how. Glen Rabenberg is very good at discussing the why. I would love to see these two have a discussion. I think they would agree on more than you might expect.
@@joshuapaisley7289I really vehemently disagree. Glen never speaks of cover crops and all his talks always come back to how you need to buy GSR Calcium. There are many red flags with him including his reverence for Gary Zimmer who spends hour long talks yapping about Chemistry and how he got rid of his cows and then calls himself the "biological farmer". The Mulders Chart is not the answer to our problems and is not Regenerative Agriculture.
“Agriculture” is the production of crops and/or livestock. “Organic agriculture” is when you do agriculture while avoiding synthetic inputs. “Sustainable agriculture” is when you do agriculture while an economist curses at you in French. “Regenerative agriculture” is when you do agriculture in a way that improves rather than degrades your land. “Improves your land” means “makes your land better suited to doing agriculture.” I wouldn’t trust anyone who tried to add something to it that wasn’t rooted in that definition.
The first problem nowadays is that every little thing NEEDS to have it's own terminology. And the second problem is that every terminology NEEDS it's own description. And then you get pigeonhole thinking where people don't want to work together any more because they think their way's the best...
I follow Matt Powers for his soil micro & macro discussions on who, what, where & why. Following you both rounds out the system of soil & plant health. Regenerative agriculture to me has been breaking the term down regenerate (bring back something) & agriculture ..
Glen, Thomas! Thanks, great communication! Healthy Soil - self-sufficient!? The plant is able to provide itself with food, thanks to the ability to photosynthesis; diversity of organisms, including plants with their abilities and chemical content; symbiotic relationships within species and between species; mycorrhizal Soil self-sufficiency is the main property of healthy soil. Best regards, Victor Kyrychok, Ukraine
Noobs, there is no such thing as organic farming. 28/100 pesticides are fit to be used in organic farming as long as the product lies within MRL limits. If you really care about the health of people and soil, try providing food higher in nutrient density. It's a different ballgame altogether, that means having less compaction, porous soil, maintaining C:N ratio >20:1 and much more
@@healthspace4936 I farmed organic as did my dad and a few of my neighbors. Non of us used pesticides. You are saying that because pesticides can be used, that they are used. That is a bad argument that you can't back up.
