I appreciate the offer but I'd have to put your ionizer through my review process to make sure that it is good to go for my viewers and subscribers. You can reach out to me at: coachhelder@gmail.com if you are interested.
I bought a Copper-Flo model and used it for 24 hours. Chlorine level was at the low end of the OK meter. The pool has never been more clear or more algae free. I was having problems with my CYA acid levels because of the pucks. I drained and refilled and switched to liquid. I had to add a half bottle of liquid chlorine every two days. It was awful. Now? We'll see but based on my results so far? AMAZING. I wish I had this 20 years ago. I can't say enough about it.
Try using that without adding any chlorine to the pool. I heard that chlorine reacts badly to Copper and that that solar ionizer you have there can take care of preventing algae without chlorine.
Thanks for responding to so many comments/questions. Many Ytubers do not. It has helped me understand a lot concerning the use of this device. I regret I have but one thumb up to give.👍
Hello! My pool is green right now due to low chemicals and all of the rain we’ve been getting in Jersey. I purchased the ionizer, it’ll be here later today. Should I shock with green to blue before putting in the ionizer?
Hello, I'm in jersey too! Luckily, my pool is still clear, I just had to get a bunch of debris out after the storm. But it's pouring right now, and I'm wondering if we will get hit again. My advice is to get the pool chemical levels as ideal as you can. The ionizer won't work well unless the levels are on par. The manufacturer states that you should have a relatively clear pool before you introduce the ionizer. It is great for maintaining a clear pool, once it is clear, but not made to turn a green pool clear. Once you get the right copper level, be sure to take the ionizer out of the pool so that your copper level does not get too high. Good luck and stay, Jersey Strong! 💪
@@CoachHelder I’d pay in beer gladly. I’m going crazy over here. My filter isn’t suctioning and every time I skim the pool it stirs up all the dead algae. I’m not getting anywhere! 🥲
Wow, sorry to hear that. Algae blooms are far too common in our area especially with the recent storms. I'd suggest algaecide (get the good stuff that is a bit pricier) and shocking the pool to try and get it under control. It may seem overwhelming but in a couple of days post treatment, you will have a clear pool once again. Good luck!
Once you have the proper copper reading the ionizer comes out of the pool. Too high of a copper reading can be bad for your pool and cause health issues.
So it puts copper in the pool steadily? Which means you dont have to keep your chlorine levels around a 3.5ppm. Algaecide has copper in it too. But instead of putting algaecide in, you just keep this in there instead. I wonder, after a year of using it, when you got your pool water tested. What were your copper levels? Also have you had any staining, from the copper sticking to the walls or floor?
If you go to the blog post in the description and comments area, it addresses those concerns and more, over the past 4 years that I have been using it. Take a look and let me know any questions that you may have after viewing those videos. -Hg
All chlorine does is ionize algae. That’s what Algaecides do too. Makes sense that it works but idk why u can’t just use a floater and some tabs.... or say just have proper water chemistry
Hello Will and thanks for taking the time to comment. Floating tabs never did a thing for my Algae problems that I dealt with in the past. My levels would be great then after a rain storm... The algae always began to set in. I'm no expert in this subject matter but once I started using this ionizer, I haven't come close to even seeing a hint of algae in my pool. Keep in mind that what works well for some, may be a bad idea for others. That is why we try and share our experiences on here and let the viewer decide what works best for their needs. -Hg
I have used a Flotron for 3 years. It kept my water crystal clear but it RUINED my marcite because of all the copper deposits. Just spent 6000.00 for a new marcite job. The copper turns the marcite BLACK. I will never use another one.
Thanks for the heads up, Roger. So far so good on my pool. It is only my second year with the ionizer and it has really worked out well for me. Sorry that you had that issue with the marcite. I opened up my pool a couple of weeks back, I'm in NJ. This was the first year that I didn't use algaecide while opening the pool. I had some in reserve but I wanted to see if the ionizer could handle the job alone. My pool is crystal clear, it did take a couple of extra days, but it did the job. Once again, I was impressed. I will keep a close eye on the situation and report back if I begin to see any negative effects. Thanks again for taking the time to share your experience with us; it's appreciated. -Hg
How expensive are the replacement rods? I’d there a warranty? I’ve been looking at these but the price seemed a bit much and they sounded too good to be true! Thanks
Hey Blake, I thought the same thing on the "too good to be true." But in this case, I can't say enough about this gadget. It has saved me time, cash and even some pride. The replacement rods are about $30 on Amazon: amzn.to/3aQ64n1 1 rod lasts me about 2 seasons. I have a 10,000 gallon, in-ground pool, in New Jersey. If you get one, let me know what you think. Just make sure that you get all of your levels, where they need to be, before you start using the ionizer. I hope that helps. -Hg
@@CoachHelder Totally agree with all you say here. I've upgraded now to a hybrid electrical ionisation/oxidisation system, but this device was amazing for the 5 years we used it. Biggest plus for the solar ioniser, compared to our current system, is the cost. Electricity is expensive, and this floating device is brilliant.
Coach, will I still need to shock after a rain storm or does the ionizer manage things even after rain is added to the pool water? Thanks for your informative videos! Cheers!
Thanks for your support, Stan! I haven't needed to shock the pool after a storm, but I always try and keep my levels as close to 'perfect' as possible in order to avoid extra maintenance and expense. Remember to test your copper level, too. You don't want it getting high and causing other issues and irritation. Good luck! -Hg
Just buy a gallon of Orenda PR 10,000 ($130). Will last 3 years and no copper or silver. My Phosphate level is 0; just checked it at leslie's yesterday. And my Algea is 0 along with my Copper and Silver.
It has been a big help for me, Moustafa. I can't say enough about this ionizer. I can actually enjoy my pool instead of trying to become a chemist, all season. ;-) Have a great day, my friend! -Hg
If your copper levels do get high, do you just take this out for a day or two? Or do you use chemicals to balance? (Sorry if this is an obvious answer)
Definitely take it out once the proper level is reached. The rest of your question depends on how high the levels actually are. If the copper levels aren't off the charts, you will be fine. Enjoy your summer, it goes quick!
I kept my pump running the same amount of time. My readings kept coming up great, with just the chlorine tabs in the skimmer and the ionizer, so I didn't want to change anything. I hope that helps. -Hg
Sorry Coach you wasted your money and sadly many others on here will too.. I used the piece of copper pipe in the skimmer method many years ago and yes it works, no electricity needed, never any algae at all. However about 10 years ago I discovered Copper Sulfate and started using it. I have a 13k pool and use 1 tablespoon diluted a month. Never ever have I had any Algae since. No green hair, no pool stains on my gunite pool here in Florida. Stop listening to these people who don't have a clue, maybe they work for pool companies or don't even have a pool. So may gimmicks when this is the easiest cost effective solution out there.. Look at the ingredients of most pool Algaecides 5-7% Copper Sulfate. When you buy Copper Sulfate small crystals (Amazon, eBay) and dissolve it, it is 20% concentrate so don't think 1 tablespoon a month is to little, adjust if your pool is larger. That is all you need and you'll NEVER have Algae again. The key is Don't over do it thinking more is better, it's not. It does reduce the amount of Chlorine you use but not by a significant amount. Do the research, stop wasting your money.
Thanks for sharing. To be honest, I do a great deal of research. Not sure why you thought that I did not do my DD. For less than $100, I throw a device into my pool. I leave it in a week, more or less, check my copper reading and if it's good to go... I take it out. I am then done for the season. That has been my SOP for 6 years now, dividing that (sub $100 investment) into 6 and counting... I'm pretty happy with my research, recommendations to subscibers, and my initial investment. So, you are happy with what you do and I am too. Enjoy your day, Florida is awesome and Cheers my friend. 🍻
what is your weekly routine? i am having a hard time finding what i am suppose to do ? add shock once a week? a gallon of bleach or chlorine once a week?
Hello 21kidsanddogs, I don't have a steady routine besides taking a daily reading of the levels to see what is needed. I start the season getting the pool to the correct chemical readings. I then add the ionizer until I get to the desired copper reading with the included test kit. Once that is achieved I take the ionizer out so that my copper reading doesn't get too high. From there, I just add the chlorine tabs to the skimmer as needed and continue to monitor the other readings and adjust from there. I hope that helps you. Good luck, -Hg
@@CoachHelder thank you - i just bought a pool - and have no clue how to take care of it - been reading and watching videos but no one ever said - this is what i do 1st and throughout the season
It's a bit overwhelming at first, just like anything new that we learn. Hang in there, be patient and you will get better with each passing season. Good luck and I am here if you need me. -Hg
Hello Carol, good question! I'm going on my third season and it's still working like it did on day 1. Since it is pulling such little wattage and is built well, I see it lasting quite a while. I also take good care of it when in use and when storing it. I will update this review if things were to change. -Hg
The first copper 'stick' lasted me 3 years. I really didn't know what I was doing or it would have lasted longer. Taking it out of the pool once the level is ideal and scrubbing off the oxidation is imperative to making it last longer. I hope that helps.
When you left it in your pool through the winter did your water freeze? If so how did it fare! I’m in SW Michigan and I would love to not buy another cover!!
Hello Harriet, after experimenting more I found that as long as my copper level was spot on, using the included test kit, there was no need for me to leave the ionizer in the pool throughout the winter. I learn a little more each season. -Hg
Hello Shivraj, I wouldn't say that it is an alternative. But it will cut down on your chlorine consumption, considerably. I can definitely vouch for that. Let me know if that answers your question. -Hg
Hello Melanie. Yes, I shocked the pool, established all the base levels, first. I then used this gadget to maintain. It has saved me countless hours and makes me look like a hero in front of friends and family. You will not be disappointed. If you get one, let me know your thoughts. -Hg
It's good practice to scrub the oxidation off the copper. Most kits include a wire brush for that task. As far as, 'is it working?' The only way to know is to check your copper levels in the pool. Keep in mind that all of your pool readings need to be at the optimum level for the ionizer to do its job. -Hg
Absolutely, D.J. The Algaegone helps to save on Chlorine but you still need to make sure that you keep your pool levels in line. Same routine as usual, just hopefully, much less needed. I hope that helps. -Hg
@@cuba013 I have a couple of friends in the Miami area that keep their pool open all year. They have kept the ionizer in the pool the whole time and it has worked well for them. Be sure to keep the ionizer copper rod clean, using the provided wire brushes. You will go through the rods much faster but in the long run, it will still save you money over other options. I hope that helps. -Hg
@@cuba013, I do not have any experience with salt water pools but as per the manufacturer, this ionizer will work just as well in a salt water pool. It will keep your pool algae free and cut down on your chlorine needs by 80%. I hope that helps. If you do pick one up, please let me know how it works for you in your salt water pool. I'm sure many people on here would be interested in your opinion. Thank you. -Hg
Hello ncrpejxi, there is a link in the description and pinned on top of this comment thread, that will take you to the updated pricing on the manufacturers website. -Hg
Once I put the ionizer in the pool after opening, I never take it out until it's time to winterize the pool. Be sure that all you levels are on par before placing the ionizer in the pool. Also, if you need to shock the pool again, for any reason, that would be the time to take the ionizer out until your readings are back to the correct level. I hope that helps. -Hg
So I was trying to maintain some 6 different balances- total chlorine, free chlorine, ph, alkalinity, hardness, and cyanuric acid... something along those lines.. then I started to just monitor ph and chlorine. Does this system maintain all 6 areas or is this more for chlorine? Thanks for the video btw.
Hello Chief, trust me... I feel your exact pain. :-) As far as this pool ionizer, it will keep your pool algae-free and also cut back, considerably, on your chlorine use. But as far as all the other levels, those will need to be maintained with the usual chemicals and balancing. I hope that info helps you a bit. This device has outperformed my expectations over the last 2 seasons. If you do pick one up, let me know what you think. Thanks for taking the time to leave your feedback; it is appreciated! -Hg
Glad that I could help, Chief. I'm here if I could be of further assistance or you can reach me via my website: CoachHelder.com Be safe and enjoy the "off" season! -Hg
@@CoachHelder do you still need to use cyanuric acid / stabilizer to prevent chlorine loss with this unit or will these chemicals have an adverse effect when mixed with copper
The pool ionizer have saved me a ton on chlorine alone. I have not used any stabilizers since I started using the ionizer a few years back. The key, from what I see, is having your levels at their peak before you introduce the ionizer. Since that process I have only added chlorine tabs to the skimmer and up the PH (w/ baking soda) a couple times per season. I hope that helps. -Hg
Great Video. I am curious how long have you had it and are you still happy with it? I saw one play it left a weird stain on the bottom on a cement pool. I am going to use it on a fiberglass pool. Also do you use chlorine at all or just minimally?
Hello Toby, so far it has been 3 years and this contraption has been a life saver. I no longer have a green pool, especially the day before a planned BBQ. ;-) As a matter of fact, my pool is still clear from last year which is something that I am not used to. The key is to maintain the proper levels/reading, especially with the copper testing. This ionizer includes a test kit. I have not had any damage to my pool but I do check and maintain the proper levels in my pool. I have drastically cut down on chlorine use. Both for time-release as well as liquid chlorine. There are a lot of imposters on the market. Be sure to go with this company if you decide to purchase a pool ionizer. I hope that helps and let me know what you think if you do pick one up. Have a great day! -Hg
No stain on our inground pool and we have exact same one..works great...we use hardly any chlorine...in South Texas so pool open and used most of the year...absolutely love it
Quick question, I bought very similar to yours. But having run on the first day, for approx 6 hrs, i tested the water and the copper level immediately shot up to 0.7ppm. the manual does said if more than .9 ppm take the unit off from the pool. A lot site also recommend not to have more than 1 ppm before it does more harm to your pool than good. Do you actually just leave yours floating on the pool the whole day every day or just few hours each day? I'm just concern leaving all day, because even just 6 hrs it shot up from 0 to .7ppm. I'm scared if I leave it every day all day it will increase to 1 or even more.
Hello Adi, there are a few models in the market and they aren't all the same. Just a heads up, I found out the hard way once I started getting questions on here about the other ionizers. The manufacturer of this one states that we should maintain a .4. Once I get to that reading, with all the other chemical levels on par, I then remove the ionizer from my pool. Once it gets below .4, I throw the ionizer back in. I have learned a lot over the past 2 years. The first year, I left the ionizer in all season. As you can imagine, my reading was closer to a 1! Now, even in the winter months of NJ, my pool is still blue and clear. Frozen, but blue! 😁 I hope that helps. -Hg
@@CoachHelder @Coach Helder hmmm is that mean if I just leave all day every day it will still stay at 1 ppm? I'm just worried if I leave it all day it will blow up to more than 1 ppm. My pool size is only about 45000l size.
Hello Adi, I'm certainly not an expert in anything pool related. I can only share my experience with this ionizer model and my pool, thus far. Let me know what you decide to do and how it works out for you. -Hg
Hello Guapo, When I put the ionizer in the pool, it was recommended that the pool be clear and all levels up to par. I never tested it with existing algae. All that I can say is that I didn't have any algae since using the ionizer; both last year and so far, this year. I hope that helps. -Hg
