Sole Talk Sunday Vibram flat all rubber soles and one that has been long awaited. 

Thank you for your service!

me, too!

@@Pistolita221 The Army adopted and then seemed to immediately drop the Belleville 901 V2 Jungle Combat Boot, it has a Panama inspired Vibram sole. I don't know if they produced them just for those boots, but I can't find anywhere that sells them.

We are located in CO and a Sierra flat sole runs about $90 for the pair. However if there is a wedge or other things need to be added or replaced that can change the price. It would be best if you can email some photos

Thank you for the feed back.

@@CobblersPlus It's anecdotal admittedly. But that has been my experience, so take it with a grain of salt. Not that I would mind having any of those soles, but I really like the 360 force.

I've seen a few anecdotes of the Sierra splitting in the front on bates boots. I believe it is the composition of the outsole being made of nitrile (plastic rubber). I can see why a lot of the smaller independent shoe makers out there just sticking with SBR (solid rubber), because it works. The companies i've seen in Africa (Courteney, the Kommando Stores Rhodesian boot, and Jim Green) all use thick rubber. The Courteney boot, in particular, has been known to last 10,000 miles in Africa (where ground tends to be more flat). Wish they imported some of their soles to the US, because the problem with Courteneys is their leather isn't very water resistant. Guessing it's a vegetable tan.

What is your opinion on the boots and soles? Thanks.

@@justinpatrickhoffman Hi! Not the original guy you asked, but, I figured I'd give you a response since he didn't reply and I have had the Bates produced RAT boots from their canceled USMC contract, way back in 2014 or so. So, my response cannot give the build quality of Danner's RAT, but, it will still give some insight on the overall design of the boot and sole performance. The soles are rather good. In comparison to some of the other lug patterns that I have used in the outdoors and elsewhere (Vibram Sierra, the old Panama pattern, some Russian ones, etc) they tend to wear well and provide good traction. I'd say the traction is good in gravel and most soft dirt with a little mud. It does tend to trap more mud in comparison to some other tread designs, such as the Panama one, but less than others like the more conventional Carramato design. The boots are good and bad. The goods are that they are pretty comfy, not too heavy and that the toe and heel caps tend to resist damage well. The bad would be the leather tongue and, for me, lining. The leather tongue is more on the thick side due to having a cloth lining within, like the rest of the boots, and tends to form odd shapes/memory with use. While it may have been the way I broke in the boots, I did have one tongue form a permanent shape which allowed for more ingress of debris when fully laced up. The lining is also a bit of a pest if you get your boots wet and need them to dry a bit quicker. Insole and midsole are good, comfortable, but I have started to have some cracking/early damage to my midsoles on the heel region. This may be an issue exclusive to Bates and their material choice, however. Hope my experiences help! If there's anything else I can answer for you, let me know!

@@Azrakoth1 Thanks for the information!

Really because they come with 360s

I would say the fiberglass because it’s a higher structure in a way where the nylon has more flex to it

For mud I like the Siara sole. The traction is designed to squeeze out the mud through the side

If your talking about the Air Force green I can get a pair or two if you want to email me

Done it with some JR leathers lol

Vibram 1275 would most likely be the closest with a heel on it

vibram kletterlift is the one that matches but you can go with a number of options

I would use something thinner than these

@@CobblersPlus Thanks, that probably makes more sense

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Sure have. Did a sole talk Sunday and added it to some Alden and 1000 miles. Have the video up of the 1000 miles

Cobblers Plus Inc. I’m looking at style 7124 jumbo ripple soles.

What alternatives? Are they solid rubber?

@@QuartBernstein311 what are you planning on doing , intended use ?