Catholic Mass in the Anglican tradition held in thanksgiving for Anglicanorum Coetibus on its 10th anniversary, at the Society's 2019 Toronto Conference on the Anglican Tradition in the Catholic Church
Drive her through the Redwood National Forest in the early morning or late afternoon or take her an Ordinariate Liturgy, a well-done TLM or Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy - she’ll understand why we need AWE, that sense of being in the presence of God Almighty, the Maker of Heaven and Earth. She’ll also understand why the Psalmist said : 6 Honour and majesty are before him: strength and beauty are in his sanctuary. 7 Give unto the Lord, O ye kindreds of the people, give unto the Lord glory and strength. 8 Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come into his courts. 9 O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth. 10 Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously. 11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; let the sea roar, and the fulness thereof. 12 Let the field be joyful, and all that is therein: then shall all the trees of the wood rejoice 13 Before the Lord: for he cometh, for he cometh to judge the earth: he shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with his truth. Psalm 96:6-13 KJV
@@rudymatheson1415 people say Norvus Ordo is rather a watered down mass. Because of the Contemporary Christian Music that is used. Priests sometimes are a little humorous during their sermons, kinda breaking the divine aspect of going to Mass. Priests face the congregation instead of facing East. And a lot more but I’m not a scholar, that’s what I’ve heard from people the most. And to be honest with you. I prefer Norvus Ordo cause no matter how much hate, it’s a liturgy no matter what and people love and respect the service. If I do want to go to a Liturgy that is very Spiritual and moving, I prefer the Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. I’m Catholic but I’ve been observing lots of Orthodox Christianity for quite some time.
@@rudymatheson1415 As one of the periti at the Council stated: "We have used ambiguous terms during the Council and we know how we shall interpret them afterwards." Another translation: "We say it diplomatically, but after the council, we will draw out an implied conclusion." The documents were intentionally written in an ambiguous way so that those who were faithful could read them in continuity, but those who weren't had adequate room to play. The documents themselves are entirely too long and winded such as Lumen Gentium and Gaudium et Spes (over 30,000 words). I think that the documents, if one really works at it, can read the documents as faithful to the tradition. What cannot be reconciled with sacred tradition is the tangible "reform" that came in the wake of V2 such as the Novus Ordo Mass. The folly of collegiality has ushered in Orthodox notions of nationalistic and ethnic Catholic entities that have "their own Catholicism" and is distinct from others thus needing special considerations. The deteriorization of the church in Germany is a prime example
I am a member of the Coptic Orthodox Church. If the Church of Rome went back to liturgizing like this, I’d be a lot more enthusiastic about the unity talks between our hierarchs.
@@SATMathReview1234 As an Orthodox Copt, I hope so too brother. It’s terribly sad what has become of the Church of our master St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles
@@TheCopticParabolanos i have been to local Coptic churches here in Staten Island NY. I am a former seminarian that went to a RC seminary. I really do appreciate the rich spiritual treasury and liturgical tradition of Coptic church....the current Vatican is very sad indeed...so much dissaray.... I wish His HOLINESS TAWARDOS could have brotherly discussions with Pope Francis.
@@michaelciccone2194 thank you, brother. I likewise am appreciative of the traditional Latin mass and all that the Church of Rome has done for western civilization and global Christendom.
The Eastern Catholic Churches present a form of liturgy similar to the orthodox liturgy, such as the Coptic Catholic Church, which preserves its beautiful oriental liturgy but recognizes the primacy of the Pope.
This has to be one of the most beautiful services I’ve ever listened to or watched. I am utterly speechless at the sacredness of the liturgy and music.
I am an Orthodox Christian and I am from Russia. I was very interested in watching the Liturgy of our Anglican brothers in Christ. There are many similar moments with the Orthodox Liturgy. We are similar because our churches come from the same ancient root. Orthodox Christians revere many ancient English saints of the ancient United Church. May the Lord bless You in your righteous labors and grant you strong faith, hope, and love! As our Lord Jesus Christ said he who keeps the faith to the end will be saved! This is especially important to remember in the modern apostasy world.
They are Anglican Use Roman Catholics, not Anglo-Catholics. They have renounced the Anglican heresies and returned into Communion with the Roman Pontiff.
@@larryjohnwong Thank you, brother, for the detailed explanation. I understood that. They are Anglican Catholics. This is very good when different rites are used in a single Church. in faith unity, in the diversity of rites, but all in Christ Jesus! The Orthodox Church also has a Latin rite and I like the Latin rite very much, because the Latin rite reminds us of the ancient United Church with its great saints and Apostolic grace.
@@larryjohnwong No, they have betrayed their English Catholic tradition and have entered the yoke of the ultimate heresy in Christendom..Papal supremacy. The Eastern Orthodox will agree this makes Roman Catholics schismatics even with valid apostolic succession they are, as is the See of Canterbury, tainted so swimming the Tiber makes no difference accept it is worst because it is turning your back on the Monarch who is the true Supreme Head of the English Church for some foreign Archbishop who has delusions of grandeur not being to accept his real place in the Catholic Church as Western Patriarch not Supreme Head of the worldwide Catholic Church. Until Rome grows up there will be, and can be no unity with heretics. God Bless.
@@theofarrelllamos8530 No, it is not. This is very different from the Tridentine Mass. The Anglicans used the Tridentine Mass to develop this, but it is very far from "Latin Mass in English"
Am a Nigerian Anglican priest but I have never see this types of higher Anglican service I wish Anglican across the globe shall one day go back to their heritage.
The most beautiful thing about our Catholic Church is that there is something for everyone. If you want a solemn, reverent, and humbling experience, you can attend the Tridentine Mass. If you want a more contenporary, down-to-earth experience, you can attend the Novus Ordo. If you want a spiritual, sensory, reverent, and traditional experience, you can attend the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom. If you want to attend the Latin Mass but prefer to understand what’s being said, you can go to an Anglican use parish. If you want to hear the words of consecration in the language of Jesus, exactly as he said then 2,000 years ago, you can go to a Maronite mass. Catholicism is so beautifully diverse.
@Christos Kyrios Yes, I have all of those in my location. I have Novus Ordo, TLM, Ukrainian Byzantine, Ruthenian, Melkite, Maronite, Syro-Malabar, Syro-Malankara, and Ordinariate parishes all within 45 minutes of where I live
@Christos Kyrios You completely missed my point. If I say “Catholicism is the best religion in the world and everyone should convert to it”, does that mean that everybody in the world has a Catholic Church in their area to attend? No.
Joyfully in Communion with you from the ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF SUVA, FIJI ISLANDS. I pray that Almighty God will unify his body into the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC ORTHODOX CHURCH.
The Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham has made a breviary, which was published by the Catholic Truth Society in 2021. Divine Worship Daily Office (Commonwealth edition) is the title. It has the Coverdale Psalter, and the lessons are RSV 2nd CE. I would encourage all Catholics to consider purchasing a copy.
I like Coverdale more than the KJV - It takes some getting used to. The Ignatius Bible (RSV-2CE) is much better than the NAB or NABRE. I once put Ignatius Pew Bibles in my Anglican Church in an attempt to convince them to join the Ordinariate. That fell through, but we got the Ordinariate to use the RSV-2CE.
Oh man, the opening with the Old 100th tune! Being raised Methodist, this hymn (matched with the lyrics Praise God from whom All Blessings Dwell) was played as the anthem of our service. It is always so good to hear it, even now as a Catholic.
I am a Catholic in Australia, 50 years old and have been an observer of the development of the Ordinariate. This Mass stirs something within me, spiritually and culturally. I am a product of the history of England, Wales, Ireland, and Scotalnd and an amateur student of the history of the Church in those places. My ideal regualar Sunday Mass includes many of the elements of this Mass!!! Praised be God for his holy Church. PAX
I've maintained for years that a liturgical form like THIS was much closer to what the Vatican II Council Fathers probably envisioned for the reform of the Roman Liturgy!! I would also note that this liturgy is fully in conformity to the principles and mandates of the reform in Sacrosanctum Concilium.
What a true statement. Many of my Catholic brothers and sisters in faith see it very similarly. The actual Catholic liturgy in many places is far removed from Sacrosanctum Concilium.
'gives me goosebumps" is how it should be. I'm a cradle Roman Catholic, born in 1960. I was a server when we held a patten at the communion rail. Nobody had to tell me the Santus was special. It was always like laying oneself down to God's Power and Glory. Our parish put out the a suggestion request recently. One of my request was to emphasize the grandeur of the Santus. I felt it was being given soft, nearly passive treatment musically and verbally. I asked it to be carried out such that anyone nodding off comes around the the magnificence of the Lord in all his Heavenly power. David knew that defeating Goliath was a done deal if he was accompanied by YHWH Sabaoth. We need the heavenly host more than ever. I say, let it ring. Goosebumps for the faithful,
As a Catholic seminarian of the Latin Church. It is great to see another expression of the Roman Rite that is geared towards the Anglican patrimony. It is quite similar to the 1962 missal (TLM), but you can certainly tell the differences between the TLM and the Ordinariate Mass. One example would be the liturgy of the word. 3 readings instead of two. At first I assumed that this mass had two readings of scripture so I was surprised to see a layman as the first “lector” since it is usually the subdeacon and deacon who will do the readings in a solemn high TLM. Although I know that I can never celebrate this mass if ordained into the priesthood, but I will try to attend one.
Thank you for heeding to God's calling. May the good Lord be your strength and your guide in your journey to becoming a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.
Bao Duong I didnt think you could say another mass other than the Tridentine if you are intending to become a Priest into the Roman Rite Church. Most of the Tridentine Mass is directly from the Apostles passed over to the Gentiles and are Perpetual and cant be changed. Jesus attended the Temple with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed for Passover those Passover Prayers were about His death. Jews worshipped the Messiah in advance True Worship they had the Symbolic lamb and it had to br without spot or wrinkle that prayer is said in the Tridentine. It was the end of the symbolic lamb as He becomes the sacrifice the Real Lamb. The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed were passed over to the Gentiles and are Perpetual and cant be changed. The Gentile Prayers can be changed like Confiteor and St Michael prayer. " I will go onto the altar of God to God Who gives joy to my youth " is God the Son in eternity conversing with God the Father. Terrible that Priests don't understand where the worship came from.
I grew up serving as an acolyte (and thurifer) in a church that celebrated mass in the anglo-catholic tradition. I 've never been in a service with two thurifers. That's awesome that there are two thurifers at your eucharist.
Whoa, they read the Gospel in the middle of the church as we do during the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. We only read one Epistle though, but they read 2. Interesting.
It is also an "Anglican traditon" to sing the Gospel in the middle of the Church, a practice I never understood in the Ordinariate. I prefer the traditional french way of reading the Gospel facing north as they do in the Traditonal Latin Mass. Regarding the two Epistles, one is not an Epistle. The first lesson is called the Prophecy reading. There is a Gradual chant, then an Epistle. Then finally, the Alleulia and Gospel.
@@Thurifer2005the reason for bringing the gospel down to the people is to emulate Christ coming down from on high to teach the people below… literally, the Word of God coming down into the world. It’s a beautiful practice.
Omg „Gloria” is so beautiful..! I’ve never heard this version. Im lutheran and I think that the Anglican tradition is unique and makes the Christian liturgy much more richer with many spiritual values
@@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety, здравствуйте. Напишите, пожалуйста. Показанный в видео обряд является именно обрядом Англиканской церкви или это просто англиканский обряд именно Римско-католической церкви? Hello. Write please. Is the rite shown in the video a rite of the Anglican Church or is it just an Anglican rite the Roman Catholic Church?
@@l21n18 This mass was a Catholic liturgy of the Ordinariate of the Chair of St Peter, which was established under Pope Benedict's Anglicanorum Coetibus for Catholics of the Anglican tradition. Sometimes known as the Anglican Use, it is found in Divine Worship: The Missal.
When Paul VI and Bughnini changed the mass, they should've just changed the Latin into English, not make an entire different liturgy. This Ordinariate mass is basically the Traditional Latin Mass but in English with Anglican prayers.
@@JoseRX95 Vernacular use was not condemned, but rather the Protestant notion that liturgy should ONLY be in the vernacular. In fact, before Trent, the vernacular was seeing a wider acceptance in the Church gaining papal approval for certain parts of the mass to be said in the vernacular.
I would rather have a solemn and proper mass celebrated in vernacular, than a 20 minute low mass where the priest whispers Latin faster than Eminem raps.
Hi Joseph - our map at acsociety.org/map has all the groups that we are currently aware of (including two in NC, although they may not be central where you are), but groups get added periodically whenever they get started, so perhaps one day there will be on near you! Please don't hesitate to get in touch if you connect with others interested in starting a pre-ordinariate prayer group or community and we'll add that to the map too! God bless you!
Please note that the Anglican Ordinariate is Catholic and in communion with Rome. So when it comes to Communion, we do not practise open Communion, but only Communion for baptized Catholics in communion with Rome.
This looks like a Tridentine Mass done in English. Which is basically what should have been done instead of the radical reforms of 1969. Instead of making an “Ordinary Form”, just allow the Tridentine Mass to be said in Vernacular.
@@TIBKProductions Quo Primum may refers to the entirety use of Roman Liturgy of course the Liturgy are forever. But if you insisted in a Quo Primum per se, a 62 promulgated mass would be much different than Pope Pius V mass.
I would definitely attend this type of worship if there was a service like this in my area . I live in South Australia Anyone know where I could attend must be this worship its reverend, holy and similar to the Tridentine Mass.
The Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross celebrates the same liturgical rite in Australia. They, and information about their parishes, can be found at www.ordinariate.org.au/
This channel, although new, produces excellent content. It is a good go-to place for those new to the English Spiritual Patrimony. Can I suggest that you add captions to the videos? It can be difficult to hear what is being sing. Particularly for those who aren't used to our translations of the Gloria, Agnus Dei etc
If you regularly attend church you should know this, though new members of the church may not i do recognise that. Look for the Anglican rosary on youtube you may find some tips. God Bless
@@rudymatheson1415 there are folks trying to get something started in their area. They might not have this knowledge and this RU-vid page could be an invaluable resource for them
If so it's really beautiful...reminds me very much of when I was an altar server in Australia pre Vatican II...not that I have any problem with the reforms of Vatican II..it's just pure nostalgia!!!
Once the catechism isn't not there, without tradition the faith cannot remain integral to the foundations of the faith as passed down for care taking. Love one another is the most important thing ever.
Yes - this was an ordinariate mass, and our celebrant was an ordinariate priest. The bishop and many of the attendees also belong to the ordinariate, but the Cathedral is that of the Archdiocese of Toronto. Our deacon and subdeacon are both former Anglicans but are diocesan priests of the Toronto Oratory. The liturgy attracted both Anglicans and Catholics of many different backgrounds!
@@AnglicanorumCoetibusSociety Thanks for your reply...just as I thought. Although I'm no longer a practising catholic we do have an Ordinariate here in Australia and I think (one or 2 churches) in Melbourne which they use. My very best wishes to you!
@@colinlavelle7806 Thank you, Colin, and to you as well. We hope you'll find this encouragement in the practice of the faith, and perhaps we'll see you at an ordinariate parish in the future. God bless!
I'm an Anglican and love this but a bit uneasy that in the Eucharist the bread was given only. The wine wasn't given to the faithful. That I'm uncomfortable with.
Actually, Holy Communion was given in both kinds on this occasion, as usual in accordance with our Anglican custom. You can see the Chalice with the Precious Blood being given to multiple communicants at 1:07:20, 1:07:46, 1:08:14, 1:09:00, and so on. Some Roman rite individuals who are not used to receiving in both kinds likely only received the Body, but most attendees received in both kinds as is customary in the ordinariates.
I'm a former Anglican now Catholic, but i can't wrap my head around the pope. Any honest reading of church history shows that he gradually increased his power and that the other churches in the east had always rejected this, that instead of creating unity the pope and his appetite for authority only split the church. I don't believe he's infallible and I never have. In truth, I converted to catholicism because I found a love for the real presence and I thought much had been lost in the church of England, but I never accepted papal authority as it was defined only relatively recently, and I wonder then if I'm only a half catholic since the infallibility of the pope is a dogma
Friend, the Revelation is in Christ, but it's the understanding by the Church is progressive. Since the first centuries, the last word was ever the Pope's word. Without his word, nothing done. And also, without the Pope, there isn't a real certainty of unity in the Church. It's just an abstract one. See, for example, the recent schisms among orthodoxes, among the Russian Patriarchate and the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. There's no high authority among them to say the last word to this problem.
Dave unbelievable You should have come to the Orthodox Church where we've always maintained Holy Tradition, and the original theology of the undivided Church...pre AD 1054 ( year of the Great Schism ).
The Pope is rarely infallible. The only time he is is when he is speaking ex cathedra and even then there is a whole long process to get there. Hence there has only been one time that it has happened. This is when Pope Pius XII recognized the Dormition of the Theotokos called in the west the Assumption.
I'm an atheist but I know a thing or two about Church history. First, you are wrong to say the pope "gradually" increased power. The historical record of early Christianity is quite unambiguous that there was a clear succession from Jesus to Apostle Peter, and then from Peter to subsequent popes. Early Church leaders also made it quite clear that the Roman Church has authority over other churches. Irenaeus, for example, who was taught by the last living student of the apostles (Polycarp), attacked the Gnostics by stating that the traditions handed down from the apostles, and the successors of the apostles, particularly the presiding bishop of Rome (the successor of Peter) are the ultimate source of Christian authority. So there can be no doubt as to the validity of papal supremacy in early Christian tradition. Papal infallibility is another matter that I'm not really familiar with.
Sometimes the tunicle and dalmatic are in an identical design and sometimes they are distinct. Ideally they can be distinguished from each other. Sometimes the Crucifer wears a tunicle as well.
I guess you can call it that. Its better than the other terms I hear "Anglican Use" or "Anglican Ordinariate". The Ordinariate Mass itself has distincitions from the Tridentine Mass.
It should open with the great anglican prayer (approved by Rome)"Almighty God, unto whom all hearts are open, all desires known, and from whom no secrets are hid: Cleanse the thoughts of our hearts by the inspiration of thy Holy Spirit, that we may perfectly love thee, and worthily magnify thy holy Name; through Christ our Lord. Amen." I did not hear it
Bill, the Collect for Purity, to which you're referring, is indeed there opening up the liturgy. You can hear it at 7:02, and it is labelled as such as well. I'd suggest turning on the subtitles and you can more easily follow along for the parts that might be less audible. It starts here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hi5YgbiNB1U.html
I feel the American Anglicans have more freedom of expression than in the British Isles. Only the great abbeys and cathedrals in the British Isles would have a beautiful liturgy like this one. The ordinary anglicans In the British Isles would baulk at a liturgy this rich in ritual. I thought this mass was beatiful, prayerful, Spiritual and the Choir and Organ enriched it further.
it's quite funny for me, I've been to Liverpool lately and while lighting candles and sightseeing through the Liverpool Cathedral it suddenly came to me, that if I was raised in the Anglican tradition of the Church instead of being raised in Poland - I still would've been a Christian I somehow see your religious tradition as a more vibrant and an open one
I would not say that is better than the Traditional Tridentine Mass, but is there would any mass like that here in our area I would attend. I notice that something is strange and missing...
Looks like many more men than in regular Roman Rite churches. Of course, half are in the choir. One problem I have with the old way,facing the altar not the community, is you can't hear anything.
Very Similar Rite to Roman Catholic Holy Mass before 1970 year.In Poland we back to Old Rite our Fathers. I Have read Michael Davies Book "Destroying Holy Mass and Cranmer's Order. Very Interesting about Uprising and Sarum Rite. In I Republic of Poland in XVI it was the same to create national Polish Church, and Polish King do as the Head, but Polish Cardinal Stanislaus Hozjusz rescued our country from Protestant Revolution. God Bless Yor Country, may Englad have Catholic King and Queen.
Yes, a Solemn Te Deum is not often done but in some places it is customary to do it with two thurifers doing synchronized 360s. The ordinariate's Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston has done this as well.
Yes, that is correct. This was a Catholic mass said using Anglican liturgical forms as first authorized by Popes St John Paul II and Benedict XVI. The faithful of the ordinariate are Catholics in full communion with the pope.
Mooie mis, toch is deze l anglicaanse liturgie mij wel gedeeltelijk bekent. Ik ben van 1941 en heb dus tot mijn 22ste levensjaar de vroeger katholieke eucharistie vieren beleeft, tot Rome na het Tweede Vaticaans Concilie de mooie mis liturgie met de vuilniskar heeft meegegeven. Nu zitten we opgescheept met een droevige korte versie, waar al de mooie stukken zijn uitgeknipt. Nu volg ik regelmatig zowel rooms-katholieke als Anglicaanse misvieringen.
Anglican custom doesn't normally have the Benedictus after the consecration, as the consecration is not normally sotto voce. The humeral veil is worn depending on local custom.
@Diego Alvarez We don't have such lists in the ordinariate. Rather, we simply use the same beloved hymns we always used as Anglicans. Obviously we don't sing any that might have problematic texts, but generally our people avoided such hymns anyway as Anglicans and continue to avoid them as Catholics. Hymnals in widespread use include The English Hymnal, the New English Hymnal, The Book of Common Praise, and so on.
As far as I know Fr. Lee Kenyon is English, he grew up in Manchester, he underwent training with the "Mirfield Fathers" ("Community of the Resurrection) before he was ordained as an Anglican priest in 2005 and he served in the Diocese of Blackburn thereafter. He then went to Canada and returned to the Diocese of Shrewsbury in 2007.
