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Thanks Patrick! I’ll keep making them so long as I feel I have something to offer! Wouldn’t wanna become one of those weekly video clickbait drivel youtubers now…
I just took delivery of my UF1 and it is now snuggled in next to the UF8 and UC1 on my desk. I totally love them, especially the UF1! Your video is excellent and helps me understand how best they can be used together and answering a few questions I still had after watching the official SSL tutorials. Awesome! Thanks for doing this for us.
Thank you for the kind words Mark, glad my video is helpful and not just nonsense drivel - it certainly felt that way after hours on hours on hours working on it 😂 enjoy!
Well Benni I for one sincerely hope you'll be releasing more SSL videos - this was outstanding. As a very recent owner of all 3 units I found this really useful and goes over functions I've not seen anybody else cover (mixer layer on the UF8 for instance). Well done sir.
Thank you very much! I will keep making videos on new SSL equipment so long as they keep sending me products to test, and I think I can contribute something to the launch of that product / find it it interesting!
SSL eq masterclass be nice.. And totally get what you mean about clickbait (anything with a tagline 'Stop dong THIS..' avoid like the plague). All the best and thanks again (Eric)
@@sonicindustries227 yep, as you can tell, I am not a fan of the current state of “pro audio youtube” 😂. There is some good stuff out there sure, but the vast majority is clickbait idiots pretending to be professionals who spend most of their time making videos rather than actually working in the industry they claim to be an expert on…
Have just taken delivery of the UF1 so this vid is a greatly informative help - thanks so much for the work you put into it, I don't have the other units... yet and in the meantime I'll use this vid to really get to grips with the UF1 while I save my shekels for the other two units. Thanks!
"This video is brilliantly put together, lots of great information and humor. Well done and thank you. I've been involved as a beta tester for SSL for a long time myself. I can't help but be positive about this company; they really listen to their customers, their software is super stable, and they keep coming up with new software and hardware. I work with Nuendo and used the Avid Dock and S1 until recently. The Eucon protocol works great, but the way SSL is continuously developing made me decide to switch to the UF8 and UF1. I've been using the UC1 (for over a year now). There are definitely a few things I'd like to see, such as 'follow track on selection' (I understand this is a Mackie protocol limitation), the ability to customize some assigned (or unassigned) buttons, and the ability to move the cursor faster with the jog wheel so you can quickly navigate your project on the timeline. But I have confidence that SSL will come up with solutions and continue to develop. This confidence is why I couldn't wait to switch to the SSL DAW controllers; they simply look much better too :-) Thanks again for your awesome video."
Thank you very much for your kind words! I very much agree with what you’ve said about SSL, they are a great bunch of people, brilliant to deal with and always listening to what their customer base like or dislike with their products, but with the intention of actually acting upon those likes / dislikes 🎚️
Came here for technical information. Put on ADHAD instantly had to stop 2 minutes in. A whole generation on MTV editing-drug-like-effects, can't explain how rain forms.
Nice one, enjoy Harry! Yep it was one of the first things I enquired about when we discussed the Meter plugin. Not sure when it’s coming, but it’s coming!
Setup Guide for Reaper and SSL equipment I have set up a separate mixing/mastering station in my studio using SSL equipment. I purchased a UC1, UF8, UF 1, SSL12, Fusion, Bus+ and Big Six. I have been using Reaper for about ten years but am not a power user. My goal was to get all of the SSL pieces working together with Reaper. Unfortunately SSL does not fully support Reaper in setting up the UC1, UF1 and UF8. So I had to wade in (over my head) into getting Reaper and all of the SSL equipment to play nice together SSL's technical support was responsive but they did not have knowledge of Reaper. I could not find any RU-vid videos or other information on how to configure all the this equipment together. So I decided I would offer a few comments on what eventually worked for me. The SSL User Manuals are very good in explaining the functions of the equipment. The Fusion and Bus+ and SSL12 provide no particular connection or configuration issues. They are easy to set up and operate. The SSL User manuals and RU-vid videos for the Big Six, UC1 and UF8 explain how to physically connect each piece to a computer (in my case a Windows 11PC). They also do a good job of explaining how to download the software - 360 plug in mixer, Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Bus Compressor 2. The biggest difficulties I encountered in this were due to my total inexperience with using iLok software manager. But the process eventually worked fine. So I suggest that one follow the SSL videos and User Guides. Just one comment. The Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Compressor 2 are VST's and it is best to allow the SSL downloader to put these in the default folder - which is the Steinberg VST Plugins folder. Pay attention to Reaper's warning that VST plugins should not be placed in the Reaper plugin/FX folder along with the standard Reaper plugins. It is important to recognize SSL's caution to not mix VST's and VST3 versions of the SSL plugins. The VST downloader will download VST and VST3 versions of the plugins. I just load the VST versions of the SSL plugins in my tracks in Reaper. With regard to the USB connections, I offer the following advice. Use either the USB cables that SSL provides or very high quality cables. Do no use any USB cables longer than 1 ½ meters. Do not use a hub for any connection. Connect the UC1 USB cable from the UC1 to the UF8 “thru” USB input (which is a USB type A input). I run a USB cable from the UF8 USB output (which is a USB type C connector) to my UF1. I then run a USB cable from my UF1 to my PC computer. I connect the Big Six USB output or the SSL12 output to a separate USB connection on my computer. There are essentially two aspects of connecting the SSL equipment to Reaper 1) Midi / MCU connections and 2) audio connections. After all the SSL software is installed, go to Reaper's Options > Preferences > Audio > Midi Devices. A table will pop up. There will be a table listing twelve SSL V MIDI Ports for Input and under that there is a table listing twelve SSL V MIDI Ports for Output. Under the Mode column of each table I enable all twelve ports. Do this by right clicking each port under Mode column. A window will pop up. Click enable. Do this for all input and output ports. Twelve MIDI inputs / ports and twelve MIDI outputs / ports are therefore enabled. It is not necessary to enable all twelve outputs and inputs but that is what I did and it works for me. Technically it is sufficient to only enable the first port for input and first port for output. (If you are daisy chaining more than one UF8, you do have to enable more than port 1 but I have not done that since I only have one UF8). Right click again on the SSL V-MIDI Port 1 line in the input table. The small window will again pop up. Click on “Enable input for control messages.” You do not have to do this (and cannot do it) for the SSL V-MIDI Port 1 line in the output table. Go to Options > Preferences > Control/OSC/web. Under the blank window, click Add. Another blank window will pop up. There will be a line titled “Control surface mode.” Click on the small down arrow to open up another window with a list of options. Select Mackie Control Universal (MCU). (If you are using more than one UF8, I think you also need to select Mackie Control Extender, but since I only have one UF8 I do not know for sure). Click OK at the bottom of the window. MCU is a protocol that allows the SSL equipment to communicate with and control the various Reaper functions. In Reaper, go to Options > Preferences > Audio Device and set up the parameters for you audio interface. This is no different that how you set up your audio interface normally. (You probably have already done this). I suggest at this point that you restart your computer. Then turn off everything - the computer, the Big Six, UF8, UC1, UF1, SSL12, Bus+ and Fusion. Then I do the following: The order is important. Turn on the UF8 and UC1. Turn on your computer. Start Reaper. Open the SSL 360. Check that the Options setting described above are sill there. Open a new track and ensure that you can find and open the Bus Compressor 2, Channel Strip 2 and Channel Strip 4k b. Turn on the Big Six if you are using it as your audio interface, or the SSL12 or other audio interface that you are using. Ensure that the USB connection light in the upper right of the Big Six is on. (I have found that if one turns on the audio interface before turning on Reaper, the UC8, UC1 and UF1 will not be happy and will pout. It will essentially refuse to talk with you or do much of anything at all except sit there with a blank stare on its face). In the SSL 360 software, choose Logic Pro for Layer 1. There is no option to choose Reaper. Reaper is not fully supported in this manner - er, not supported at all. (I have seen that someone chose to use Studio One instead of Logic Pro, and this might work. However, SSL technical support recommends using Logic Pro). Most of the soft keys of the UF1 and UF8 are already programmed with commands that correspond to Logic Pro commands. Some of these work with Reaper and some do not. I chose to reprogram all of the UF1 and UF8 soft keys. It is very easy to do. Moreover, I did not really like most of the commands that were per-programmed anyway. The SSL 360 video and the SSL User Guide for the 360 are very good at showing how to program the soft keys. I found it actually fun. So, for me everything is happy working together. I find it remarkable that the 360 mixer, UC1, UF8, UF1, SSL12, Big Six, Channel Strip 2, Channel Strip 4k b and Bus Compressor 2 plugins all correspond to each. When a control is moved in one, it immediately shows in all the others. Pretty cool I think. I also like that the transport controls in SSL 360 work. I duplicate these controls in the first group of soft keys on the UF8. However, this is unnecessary since the dedicated transport controls of the UF1 are excellent work flawlessly (for me anyway). I have also programmed the soft keys to do such things as save, open new project, metronome, undo and redo, snap and unsnap, etc. I like using these instead of resorting to my mouse. But everyone will have a different approach to all of this. Note that the third party plugin controls on the UF8 do not work with Reaper but SSL has been very clear about this, and to me it is not a big deal.
Have you found a way to do send automation with Reaper using the UF1? I use an X-Touch and have had to use a user-made template (not the mackie protocols) to be able to do this. I'm guessing there might be a way.
THX, great video. Excactly what I wanted to know and see from the UF1. I also like your mmm lets say...attitude :-) Have an awesome day, you made mine!
Your studio looks like a Space Ship Cockpit... and I've wanted to be an astronaut since I was a kid ... I think this is the closest I'll get... my own little spaceship room! Awesome video, man! 😎🎸🎹🤘👨🚀🚀
very good video as always - organized, efficient, nice production values - I just ordered a UF1 from Sweetwater ------ It will go into the mixing/mastering station in my studio (TES Productions) using a SSL Big Six, UF8, UC1, Fusion and Bus+.
Brilliant video and even though it’s a long one your humor keeps it flowing along😅 Can’t believe just how much they’ve crammed into this ,looking at my desk this will replace loads of my current tc electronic controllers . I just hope a lufs update will be on the cards that way it would replace my goto metering plugin and I wouldn’t need a second monitor taking up space on my desk.
Based on my conversations, I would say I am pretty sure LUFS will be coming. That isn’t me hinting at some secret update though so still take it with a grain of salt - but they do know it’s an important feature and people will rightfully want and ask for it - and I’d say the team have proven they do listen and act upon customer feedback. Thank you for your kind words - you’re right UF1 is absolutely crammed with features… it made putting all this together especially difficult 😂
Well done Benni super video.I have a question:In Cubase the 4KB channelstrip does not follow the tracks.And Cubase does not want to load the new meter plugin because it is a VST2.I need help .Thanks Gr.Ness
Great review with lots of detail. I have 2 UF8's and I'm not as interested in using the UF1 as another track controller. I would want to use it mainly as a Main Output fader, with the transport controls and meters on the big screen. Not sure if my main purpose for it would be with it. I have dedicated transport controls currently on one of my UF8's.
Thanks for this video. Cleared up a bit for me. I still hate MCU is one of those things. But your comments and thoughts are hopeful w 1.6 in the pipe. Can’t wait.
@@DRUMVILLE I’m willing to bet with their acquisition of Harrison..we’re on the cusp of a new full fledged SSL DAW being released..perfect harmonious integration with their control surfaces and plugins..analog transformer per channel console emulation/behavior built in..not sure if it could place the needed nails in ProTools’ coffin, but idk..I feel like for us analog hardware lovers..we might be on the verge of a new SSL/Mixbus 32C Studer’esqe LUNA-ish recording platform ..exciting to say the least
@@AlavonMajor I don’t know about that to be honest. For sure, the devs I work with and have spoken to on the plugin side of SSL are keen to get their hands on some of the Harrison code, but can I see them making a fully fledged DAW? I don’t know, it seems like an awful lot of work and would take a lot of resources. We already have DAWs… I love what they are doing with 360 to be honest and I think they will keep straying that path - an all in one software that controls all of their devices. They are doing loads of really smart stuff with it too, I can see it eventually being a fully fleshed out DAW control protocol that can translate MCU protocol to do more complicated / modern stuff - as well as loads more plugin integration and stuff like that
@@DRUMVILLE want to press the “Layer” key 2 on the UF8 to switch over to the 360 layer but I want the UF1 to follow and switch over to the 360 layer also. at the moment I have to switch both units independently.
I did not know what scrubbing means ------ So I asked Bard: In audio recording, scrubbing is the process of moving the playhead or cursor back and forth across an audio waveform to listen to different parts of the recording. This is often done to find a specific sound or to identify a problem with the recording. The term "scrubbing" comes from the early days of audio recording, when engineers would literally scrub the tape with their fingers to find the desired section of the recording. Today, scrubbing is done using a mouse or other pointing device to move the playhead or cursor across the waveform. Scrubbing is a useful tool for audio engineers, producers, and musicians. It can be used to find specific sounds, identify problems with the recording, and make edits to the recording. Here are some of the benefits of scrubbing: It allows you to quickly navigate through an audio file. It allows you to listen to different parts of the recording without having to rewind or fast-forward. It allows you to identify problems with the recording, such as clipping or noise. It allows you to make edits to the recording, such as cutting, pasting, and looping. If you are working with audio, scrubbing is a valuable tool that you should learn how to use. Here are some of the ways to scrub an audio recording: Using a mouse: To scrub an audio recording using a mouse, simply move the cursor across the waveform. The audio will play back as you move the cursor. Using a jog wheel: A jog wheel is a physical control that is often found on audio interfaces and digital audio workstations. To scrub an audio recording using a jog wheel, simply turn the wheel forward or backward. The audio will play back as you turn the wheel. Using keyboard shortcuts: Many digital audio workstations have keyboard shortcuts that allow you to scrub an audio recording. These shortcuts vary from one DAW to another, so you will need to consult your DAW's documentation to learn what the shortcuts are.
Nope, I’m afraid not! There’s a reason for that. I decided it would be better to spent my time working on something for the next update which is coming very soon, in a month that rhymes with Yovember… 🤫
So a couple of quick questions. The track arming appears not to work correctly. If I track arm channel 1 no problem, same is true for 9, 17, 25 etc. if I track arm 2 to 8 only track 1 arms 10 to 16, track 9 arms etc? Binned prefs reset things no change! Also if I don’t track arm but “accidentally” hit the transport record button, the channel that is selected (not armed) goes into record, if I have a channel that is record armed and I hit record but another channel is selected, everything works as expected, the rec armed track is the only one that records. Any ideas? The next is a question re plugin control, so for the sake of argument I have a pro Q3 on say channel 1, I hit plugin mode enable the q3, 4 parameters come up in the display above the Vpots, the same parameter is above the master channel fader, How do I get any of the parameters above boot 2,3,4 to appear on the master fader vpot, that I could then use flip mode for? Using a vpot to scroll frequency is just very slow on the proQ3 but flipping to fader is much better. 3rdly focus mode controlling a plugin parameter is very clunky and unsmooth, as it is a gnurled rotary pot, that appears to be velocity sensitive, if you scroll slowly on it, the plugin parameter does not move, scroll faster and it moves but of course much too quickly for resolution control, automation writing etc. If anybody can answer any of these please do, SSL have been hopeless, emailed tech support twice and no reply!
There's a lot you don't mention which makes this more difficult to understand - are you referring to using just a UF1 on its own, any other SSL peripherals? What DAW etc? I've just assumed some stuff, so will answer what my best guess is. UF1 doesn't have a Record Arm button, so it's difficult to answer your question as I'm not sure exactly what you are doing here. Maybe you have set up a soft key to the DAW command for "Rec/Ready"? I've just set this up, and it works fine for me, no issues. As I scroll through tracks the Rec Arm soft key will record arm the selected track. Alternatively you could set the soft key to instead be a Key Command, and set it to your DAWs keyboard shortcut for record arming the selected track. Regarding plug-in control, if I'm understanding correctly, then unfortunately what you are describing is a limitation of the MCU DAW control protocol, there's not really a way to move individual plug-in parameters onto the single fader. Parameters are in banks of 8 and the fader, and you scroll through them 1 bank at a time, not individually. Of course you could do this on a UF8 where you have the full 8 faders available. Not ideal, but it just is what it is with the old protocol. SSL are working hard and adding more and more functionality to 360, which will hopefully end up allow us more modern control over our DAW. Lastly with the focus mode pot. Focus mode is essentially just your mouse's scroll wheel. If you move it a single click it may appear as if it's doing nothing on some plug-ins, but it actually is. Do a couple more clicks and you will eventually see the plugin respond. It comes down to the individual plugin and the resolution settings the developer has implemented for mouse scroll. Fab Filter Pro Q 3 has very fine resolution to allow for ultra precise dialling in of EQ and curves - up to 3 decimal places 12.345hZ for example. That's what you are experiencing. Try some other plugins - the SSL stuff is nice and smooth as they design it with this in mind, but loads of other plug-ins work really well with Focus mode too. Some mice allow for user customisation in adjusting the resolution of your scroll, maybe SSL could add this as a feature for Focus mode - I will suggest.
@@DRUMVILLE Hi it’s Logic Pro 10.5.1, but the problem re track arming also happens on a machine running Monterey logic 10.7.1. The track arming is a standard button can’t remember whether it’s page 4 or 5. When you load up 360 and select Logic Pro as daw 1, these are the default commands. So it’s not just my system. So just the SSL UF1. Interestingly I have an icon platform m plus, which has no problems with the track arming, I can also run at the same time as the SSL, again no problems . The most annoying issue apart from the select to record, is if you haven’t selected to record, but hit record, the selected track goes into record even if not rec enabled! Thanks for the info re plugin parameters, does seem a bit mad that you can move the fader and pan for all tracks in banks of 8, but not each plugin parameter across the Vpots. Onto the master fader/vpot. I think they still have a lot of work to do on 360. Not sure why they don’t do what Eucon did and basically supersede a 25 year protocol!
@@themattprofessor I’m in Logic 10.8.1 on macOS Sonoma and not having those record arm issues, so I’m not sure what else to suggest to help fix it I’m afraid. I would definitely try my suggestion of switching the soft key to instead be a key command of Control+R (record arm for Logic) and see if that makes any difference though. Some of the built in MCU DAW implementations have previously been messed up by Apple who decided to update stuff that didn’t need updated and in the process screw up everyone’s workflow! Example - a while back they changed the Shift function of Logic’s MCU profile on a whim and broke loads of features… 🙄 Key command would supersede any of that, worth a try. Yep, tracks will automatically drop into record, even if not record armed. That’s just what Logic does, nothing to do with the SSL stuff. I agree they have some distance to go still - especially with Logic - but some of the stuff they are able to do now with VST3, you can see 360 is on track to become their own protocol combined with a bunch of other features.
Great video explaining everything. My problem! I have no space on desk (already a console there) to add this unit to my existing UF8 and UC1. I currently have them on the top of a an effects rack. A third unit won’t fit! Geez. I gotta figure something out. I’ve been using the Behringer single channel for my transport controls. It sits on top of my console. Hrmmmm
Thank you! There’s a lot to cover so I’m glad people seem to be enjoying the video and finding it useful 🙂 That does indeed sound like a tricky position you are in! A UF1, UC1 and UF8 combo is quite the space-demander… personally I’m hoping they’re won’t be any more in this desktop ecosystem 😂
@@Gramps99 what kind of extender? My console with outboard on each side is almost the full width of room. I thought about something like a big pull out keyboard drawer. I just need to be able to reach the console controls at the same time. So when pulled out I wouldn’t be able to. I considered (actually did at one time) putting my console to the side, but quickly discovered I didn’t like that. I could split the units up, but I find currently with them to the side that I stopped using them because they were not facing computer monitor. Seems like I keep finding road blocks. I’ll eventually figure something out. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey Kevin, thanks dude much appreciated! Great suggestion, I will try it out next time. Every time I finish shooting and review footage, the stupid focus jumping in and out is so damn annoying. I had never really considered using manual focus mode to be honest... guess I'll give it a try!
@@flipnap2112 I can't speak for any of these other RU-vidr idiots, but for me - I know almost nothing about cameras / video / photography. I am very much point and shoot and want the entire process to be as easy as possible for me. I cannot understate how much time and effort it takes to make stuff like this - I do absolutely everything myself from learning the product inside out after months and months of testing, to scripting, shooting and editing. Almost every aspect of it is completely different to how things work in the audio world too, so almost every part of it is having to learn something new. Trust me, I would love to buy loads of fancy camera equipment, hire some staff to handle all the gear for me, and shoot really slick looking stuff all the time - but I'd still have no idea what I'm doing 😂 Anyway, yeah I know it's not always as good looking as it should be, and the focus thing in particular is super annoying, but it's the best I'm able to do for now. I think I will try Kevins suggestion of using manual focus next time - my only concern would be, is that further set up time and constantly having to check shots, and even more work for me..? I dunno, we'll find out I guess! Thanks for dropping by dude!
@@DRUMVILLE hey man, yeah I wasnt bagging on you at all, was just a funny lil joke. And I love your channel. im subbed! funny stuff my dude ha ha. you video looks amazing though, just nail that autofocus and youre good to go!
@@flipnap2112 oh I didn’t take it that way at all Teddy! I actually thought you made an interesting point so just figured I’d explain where it comes from for me, as it’s probably similar for others. I think it’s all super fair feedback to be honest, I’ll try and take it on board!
SSL have got to include their two main channel strips and bus compressor with this if they want to grab the market which is there for the taking. I have an SSL 12, I love the 360 software and I think this UF1 is incredible but when you add the price of the two channel strips and the bus compressor it just becomes a non choice. SSL... include those 3 plugins or at least offer a heavy discount and at £600 the UF1 becomes a game changer! 🤔
SSL Meter is included with UF1, 4K B, CS2 and Bus Comp 2 are all included with UC1. You wouldn’t add the price of buying those plugins alongside a UF1, it would be far cheaper to just buy a UC1 and get the full SSL integration.
As a logic user , is there an increased cpu load when using the vst wrapped 3rd party plugins within 360 link? Installing a whole plugin library , or even half of one is going to be a major commitment !!
There were several issues during alpha and beta testing, and a bunch of things I think they can still improve on... BUT high CPU usage was never something I noticed when using VST3 wrapped into Logic
Attention if you use the UF1 in combination with the UF8 (Cubase), you cannot select the lower last 7 tracks on the UF1. This is because the UF8 always selects 8 adjacent tracks and the UF1 can only select the top (left) track of the UF8 at a time. UF8 and UF1 are synchronised. This means that the bottom last 7 tracks are always not selectable for the UF1. This is real rubbish.
Does the UF1 follow track selection in Logic? The info on the SSL site was kinda non conclusive....! It implies that the BANK of faders will follow track selection in logic, but not necesarily the actual fader within that bank. How did you find this working? thankyou!!
Currently, if you only had a UF1, selecting a track in Logic will show that selected bank on UF1. So unless the track you select is the first track in the bank (or whatever number you have Fader Select mode set to) it will not directly show on UF1, you would have to scroll a couple from the bank selection. If you have a UF8 also, it becomes a little easier as you see the entire selected bank appear in UF8 including the selected track. Definitely a little bit of an annoying workflow, but its unfortunately a limitation of MCU… but SSL have already got something cooking for this 😉
I’ve owned a UC1 for a while and enjoy it. I don’t have room for UF8, but I do love the idea of riding a Fader, with the UF1 am I limited to just controlling eight tracks plus the master(which it not so shabby at all don’t get me wrong), or can it be expanded throughout the session?
Hey Mason, no you aren’t at all limited to just controlling 8 tracks. You can control 8 tracks at a time - “a bank” - but you are free to scroll though all tracks in your DAW session and move them onto the fader on UF1, or scroll through in banks of 8. But yes, any track you can control
Bonjour un grand merci pour cette vidéo qui m'a vraiment aider et qui va aider beaucoup de personnes J'ai juste un soucis moi quand je partage mes pistes ben sa m'ouvre automatiquement le 1er vst de la chaine de vst sur ma track c'est tu si c'est un problème ?
@@Borr94 I understood the big thank you - you are welcome! I'm not sure what DAW you are using? If it's Logic, do you have the Plug-in Link control turned on? In the top right corner of the Plug-in GUI, it looks like a purple chain? If that's turned on, it will automatically open the plugin in the selected insert slot every time you switch tracks.
Haven’t had time unfortunately! I’m currently working on a documentary series on the history of the SL4000 series consoles, check out the trailer on this channel 🙂
Thanks! Are they the same color scheme and size? The screws look misaligned a bit. I'm also wonder how all 3 units would like with the UC1/UF1 sitting above the UF8. In sort of a mini SSL console look.
Same colour but not the same size. UF1 is the biggest, UF1 is slightly smaller than UC1. That sounds like a weird idea to me, UC1 + UF1 are bigger than UF8, wouldn’t look very neat and you’d have to have them at a really steep angle to not eat up a ridiculous amount of desk space
@@DRUMVILLE Thanks, I figured they should be the same color and that the videos/photos make the colors look slightly different. I, like a good bit of people wished that the UC1's original design came with one fader and transport controls. I assume that's why we now have the UF1. LOL UC1 + UF1 sitting above the UF8: I was thinking along the lines of Softube's Console 1 mixing system with less of an angle. Very similar to the angle at which you have your units setup but with the UF8 sitting where your apple keyboard is. I bet the guy with Mixingtable could build a small case/stand and make it look pretty cool. I'm also not one that likes the monitor too close to my face as it irritates my eyes. If I can touch it, its too close so I have the depth on my desk. Having all 3 units side by side would be close to 37 inches wide.
@@Doctaj54 I think the idea more comes from the transport, jog wheel and master fader missing from UF8 as to why they designed UF1 - not UC1 missing a fader. UC1 was based on the original GUI designs which didn’t even have faders, plus if they did build a motorised fader into UC1, it would’ve probably only controlled the plugins output fader - which would’ve made more people unhappy as it wouldn’t be direct DAW control. I think what they’ve landed in is a good middle ground. Yeah I’m finding it hard to imagine having them set up the way you describe, but my brain instantly went to the mixingtable guy - I think you’d have to go with someone like him who can make something bespoke and nice looking if you wanted to do that setup. Would be interested to see it though, let us know if you end up trying
@@DRUMVILLE I was looking at things from a mixing prospective. It's what I do mostly. When the UF8 was released a while ago it looked ok but overall it was very similar to most fader controllers already on the market. I compared the UF8 directly to the S1 as a replacement for my Mackie Control Universal. I ended up feeling nothing unique about either one at all. I learned to use keyboard shortcuts in Protools a good bit which IMO was better than learning any DAW controller LOL. But when the UC1 dropped I thought it was pretty unique especially being that I was already using SSL's plugins in most of my mix sessions. I got to use it hands on and felt it was only missing that channel fader to make it great. I guess I was basically imagining the UC1 and UF1 as one single unit. But ya, the 3 units seems to complete the lineup and give the best options. I will most likely go with the UC1/UF1 only right now. UC1 on the left and UF1 on the right like yours. And it would have been nice if they equaled 17 inches sitting side by side to match the width of the UF8.
@@Doctaj54 ya I agree with you, it would’ve been nice if UC1 + UF1 would equal the same width as UF8, but looking at UF1 now, it would maybe feel a little cramped if it were any smaller. I’m sure there’s a reason it’s the size it is too - probably components related. The big screen probably requires some extra space, and UF1 also doesn’t have a power brick like UC1 and UF8, so I’m assuming the PSU stuff is all internal.
Here’s how to reorder the random Logic Pro plugin/instrument parameter mapping to your liking for each instrument/plugin, making it much more convenient to control from UF1 & UF8 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aqdwpPXWuak.htmlsi=rzAELy5_wqBBJ5GN
Hi Martin, I’m guessing you are the same Martin who emailed me with this this morning 😂 Yes it is true you can do this. Just to clear some stuff up though, it’s not strictly related to Logic Pro - this is a Mackie Control protocol issue and just how the protocol has always worked. You can also do this for other DAWs and any other controller that also uses MCU protocol - of which there are plenty from the last 25 years or so! 👀 I remember doing this on my old Mackie and Behringer controllers. It is certainly useful however these days I find this approach way too time consuming as I have far too many plugins I would want to control 😂 Rest assured, SSL are working on some new ways to control third party plugins 👀
Hi Benni, thanks for your clarification (and thanks for the email reply, too). I wasn’t aware of this -well…cumbersome workaround until recently, but glad to hear SSL is working on a more intuitive/straightforward way of controlling/mapping parameters in Logic. All the best - Martin
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@@DRUMVILLE thanks for measuring- then I stay with my rack mounted UF8 s and the uc1 in the mid and nevermind about uf1 . So you say both are together more than a rack unit wideness right?
@@TripianaVids yes exactly, you install 360 and it runs in the background making everything work. No LUFS currently but coming in the next update to SSL Meter
This UF-1 looks half bangin’ and half fiddly puddle. Not nearly as compelling as the other two components in this series. I’ve got a UC1 and two UF8s, and I was hoping for a SMALL transport control with other master section features that I could add in to the hardware setup, but sadly I don’t think this is it. I’m not saying the functions aren’t great - they are. It’s the old buried functions, sub-menus, modes, whatever. It’s too much to have to do from memory. For the six to ten other engineers who work here in a given month, it’s yet another device with a ton of hidden functions they’d have to take the time to LEARN and MEMORIZE. They already have a lot of that in their work environments from all the other vendors’ tools they need to use along the way. The end result always seems to be that they just won’t use the device at all… or they will only use it for the most basic functions, because they… just… don’t… have… the… time. So I think I just cannot put this piece in with the others. ☹️👎 If this was just for someone who is using this as their own interface 100% of the time, then I could see this being a nice addition. Reminds me of the Roland stuff from the 90’s and the 00’s that was a handful of buttons and knobs, and a hundred sub-menus attached to each. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The thing is UF1 is actually not all that different to UF8 - most of the features are exactly the same because is just MCU protocol… and again that makes them function exactly the same as any other DAW controller really. If you know how to use Mackie protocol, you know how to use these devices. Most of the modes and menu diving is all MCU stuff. But I do agree with your point, MCU isn’t the slickest and if you don’t know how to use it, it’s not all that straightforward. So having it in a studio that is used by other engineers coming in and out… I can see your issue… but then again, it’s MCU, it’s the same protocol used by most other DAW controllers, so if they are using controllers in other studios, they should be able to use these ones just fine
I was thinking the exact same thing. I have a Uf8 but really just use it for mixing with faders and panning. The uf1 would really just be an add on for master control, play record stop etc… All the hidden features could be easily done with a mouse unless you programme your subconscious mind to learn these features til it becomes memorised
@@ARCASIAUK it’s totally down to how much you use any of the extra features and menus of Mackie Control really. I pretty much only use Pan, Send and Plugin. When you learn one, you learn how they all work though. If you don’t use any of them, you don’t really need to worry about learning anything or menu diving. If we’re talking about the features behind the Mode knob or switching to a second DAW layer, it’s literally one very obvious button press, it was never really a problem for me 🤷♂️
AH .... so you admit it that software is better than the SSL hardware now do you ? ha ha , I knew that you would buy this ... !!! I had words with you before proving to you that my Mac M1 is more powerful than your SSL compressor hardware and now you have proved it by buy ing the UF1 ... I knew I was right !!! go on admit it , the software is better than the hardware , go on , say it , it is better !!!
Oh not you again 😂 are you seriously this insecure about not owning hardware that you need to keep posting stuff like this? It’s OK Justin, really. They are two completely different products, you can use whatever you like and what suits you best, nobody else cares or judges you for what you use. Honestly, it’s OK. I don’t get where you are pulling out this narrative of me admitting a software controller is better than a hardware compressor, it’s absolute nonsense and just you trying to validate yourself and your insecurity about this. One crucial flaw in your argument that might upset you and send your brain scrambling to find other justifications for your argument - I didn’t buy UF1 😱 I worked on the product development with SSL and used one of the early production models to make this video. Just make music Justin and enjoy the process. You don’t need to get caught up in stuff like this, it’s completely pointless to be insecure about your own equipment, be happy with what you’ve got, and if you’re not happy, get something else. If you don’t like hardware, nobody is forcing you to use it, but there is no need to be telling yourself that your M1 Mac must be better than an analogue bus compressor because it has a more powerful CPU..? It’s a nonsense argument. Just accept they are two different things and move on 🙂 Insecurities will get you nowhere in life dude, accept you for you, be happy with yourself and stop being overly concerned with the choices other people make for extremely trivial things like them choosing to use a hardware compressor. Live your life bro. I wish you all the best and hope you get better soon 💜