@@trifurobert1349so then why is Jesus the one who beat both of them maybe yu would stand a chance but if he has the god persona the Jesus persona and Satan persona how come
@@Kurokun01 lol you really think you're special just because you only defeated a cognitive version of him,in real battle Yu would just use debilitate on joker,and a single charged Myriad truth would shred him into pieces
Sturmmänner I don’t think so, if you work out to max hp joker can tank anything. Along with Satanael, who resists everything. Plus he’s not dumb, Akira can use heat riser and debilitate too. Pretty sure a single attack from Satanael while charged up would wipe Yu out.
@@Kurokun01 lol just because your persona is bigger in size doesn't mean its better,Joker needs the will of entire city of Tokyo just to beat Yaldabaoth( a fake god),while yu only needs his close friends and his family to escape death and beat Izanami (God Of Creation and Death according to japanese mythology) INO is basically a japanese version of Jesus
What about two protagonist like P3P, but with a twist on their Personas ? Like, they're two different being with two different Personas. MC has Nuclear-type persona and stats excelling in magic, good endurance and agility but low strength. Resist nuke but weak to wind. FeMC, however is the reverse, is specialized in Psi, high strength and magic, but low endurance and kind of frail. Resist psi but weak to elec. As for their learnset, MC tends to go full mage build with Frei, Dia and -akarn spells. For FeMC, her learnset goes with phys/gun/psi in that order, not too mention a lot more offensive
Actually, I remember a theory somewhere that the phantom thieves changing the hearts of mementos and therefore everybody made Erebus disappear. And to quote the wiki, “It is later revealed that Nyx herself is neither hostile nor malevolent and that she was awakened from the sorrow, depression, and apathy of humankind, believing that humans were tired of living and thus, it is her duty to end their lives. Upon returning to the time where the protagonist seals Nyx, it is revealed that the protagonist is not planning to seal Nyx away from humanity, but Erebus, a manifestation of humanity's negative will and grief from contacting her to bring the Fall.” Therefore, if Persona 3 and Persona 5 are from the same universe, you could say that the phantom thieves changed everybody’s hearts.
@@Kurokun01 Well the problem with that is that it wouldn't be permanent, the whole problem with Erebus is that you can't get rid of all the malevolence and anger from humanity it's not possible even if they somehow changed every heart in the world Erebus would just pop right back up again.
Team Protag + Lovers Arcana waifu battle. Now THAT'S a fight I wanna see. Yu can get two turns, since his waifu is literally random support. Or have Rise do something when it's her turn. Buff, have Yu go again, etc.
Yeah, btw i know this is off topic but how would you describe p3 to p5 protagonist, For me its: Joker: favorite protagonist Yu: best protagonist Minato: greatest protagonist
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 Tbh it could be and can't be. And if Atlus do that let's be Honest here everyone gonna bite their Ass because Probably SMT V ain't even out yet.
@@Azazantei persona series has been dominating so i think Atlus will stick to it. Sorry for all the hardcore smt fans but you are all out of luck. At least nocturne is getting a full ass remake
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 It wasn't a Remake man just a Remaster, but hell does it Buggy as hell. Makes me Remember the first time P4G was Re-Released to Steam, Buggy as hell.
The fact that Yu and Minato both use personas that were important to them in these fights are so cool. Like, Kohryu is the Ultimate Heirophant persona in both P3 and P4, but Yu uses one where Minato doesn't because P4's Heirophant is his uncle Dojima.
hey I wanted to thanked you for your videos. Your arsene and satanael videos saved a bunch of time and both your lanveza solo article and solo video were extremely helpful, I just beat her solo today so I can't thanked you enough.
@@ExplodingParrotChannel not really, Persona isn't like Pokemon, you can build a "resist all" Persona and spam allmigthy atacks, and probably everyone would do the same
i think its more to do with the fact that they dont have 3D models pre-made for those characters. Yu and Minato were already re-made for the dancing games, so it wouldnt have taken long to port them in and rig up a new animation or two. im not saying ATLUS has any love left for 1 or the 2-ology, but the P5 anniversary edition that released in japan came with a soundtrack for all 5 games. plus, P5 has school uniform costumes from Hermelin and Seven Sisters.
Thank you so much for this video! Made the same builds and used them in the fights. Yu wasn't a problem, though I got a lower score than yours cause I didn't know I was supposed to be playing on Merciless. Makoto took a few tries, cause for some reason, attacking with a Bless attack after Brainwashing him that first turn didn’t result in a Technical attack. To make up for it, I put him to sleep instead, and it worked like a charm
I would give him: Freikugel Gaea Rage Focus Fog Breath War Cry Taunt Might Pierce He gets two turns and has Masakados Magatama (Null everything except Gun, Psy, Nuclear, and Almighty). His normal attack crit more thanks to Might.
When Joker used the brainwash vial on Makoto, Makoto had PTSD from Mitsuru. After the battle, Yu was saying, "This fight was still much less painful than Yukiko's cooking."
I love him but he didn't defeat anybody. He merely sealed it using his life force, and it killed him in 2 months. It is made very clear that nobody, no matter who they are, can defeat Death.
CastL yeah, He did die. But, he sealed nyx, which is the avatar for death itself, but of course he didn’t kill death. You can’t kill death, death kills you
Not really, he merely turned himself into a door b/w that one thing (I can't remember his name) from getting to nyx which would actually cause the fall, and honestly I think that joker is technically more powerful than yuki, even though I LOVE yuki, since he and the PT defeated maruki who (SPOILERS) CAN CHANGE REALITY ITSELF, and as you could witness he can bring people back from the death
If Joker is a DLC fight or secret boss in P6 his team would be. Arsene, Satanael, Raoul, Yoshitsune, Alice, Beezlebulb. Satanael would be his final Persona near the end since it resist every element. He could also use items like we did lol.
Well is this P5R joker cause no Izanagi no okami picaro and izanagi no okami say no then you add satanael with sinful shell and messiah with messiah picaro plus arsene
@@Joker-nh6dd also the way he killed the first is with existence erasure not damage like Narukami killed izanami and that entity (yaldabaoth) was strong enough to take over the velvet room and had access to a second very skilled wild card
Only the name yu is kinda canon because arena played in the same timeline makoto is an alternate name for non canon spin offs so his official name is protagonist the official wiki is the best place to get informations
Bonk Boy Games he’s only called Ren now because A-1 decided it to be that way, I wouldn’t want a great character to be associated with a sloppy company
@@cristopherflores236 because it's the canon name??? The manga names are never canon and are made up by the manga authors and not Atlus themselves. Ren was used in the anime, the dancing game, and tons of mobile game crossovers.
Persona 5 is just taking 3 and adding everything that was wrong with 2. P3 and P4 need a remaster, P1 and P2 would need a remake. Can't really say much for P5...
>dub Disgusting Ahahaha Futaba sounds bootleg-tier bad. Completely different character. Holy cow. And people are still unironically using trashy dubs hahahaha.
@@kurimiaisukurimu Good joke mate. Not only because there's no such thing like better dub than original, but also when the game is set 100% in Japan and Japanese original voice actors are literally top tier ones of their times.
Potatis Tatis I downloaded the legacy bundle. It included the personas and costumes you mentioned and I’m guessing also this fights but I haven’t tried them yet since I’m still low level. Thanks tho! Also, the bundle was free!!
