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I miss playing my frost dk so much, I can't understand how Blizzard hasn't made changes to the spec or even a rework. The only winner of the previous mini rework was unholy, frost dk lost its only viable thing, which was burst during PoF, in exchange for non-existent sustained damage. It's funny that Blizzard wanted frost to be a sustain spec, but you need to have 489 ilvl full BiS to do less damage than 90% of melees. Meanwhile DH doing 100k dps or more each round, it's simply unfair that good or average specs receive changes and buffs, but specs that are unplayable are ignored. The rework that DH received in 10.2 should have been for frost dk, DH was already playable.
dh wins a duel withh full greens against a BiS conquest frost dk easily. also more usefull with greens in arena then a conquest frost dk. if frost doenst become a top tier meele next xpac idk how to explain all this shit. sitting at bottom for over a year is really dissapointing, no chances. if you dont want to sit at bottom, well then ur forced to play unholy wounds 2 buttons specc wich is the most boring specc in game, atleast rework unholy and get rid of wounds if we forced to play it .. f... blizz
As a mage... I'm tired of the hunter buffs :c Combed your website for videos explaining class specific matchups and how they interact with each other but found no such video.
Did you check our commentaries page? Looks like we have 14 videos with Mage vs MM Hunter i.imgur.com/xMk2os2.png 15 against BM Hunter: i.imgur.com/y20uY1q.png And then 13 against SV
@Toshiro4619 lol imagine complaining as a mage. Mm needs buffs. Lots of them. They only do damage. Which if your playing against any melee class is cut by a 3rd at least. As a mm you have to play almost perfect. Kite, cc, and do damage. The defensives we have are trash. Kiting really only works if your teammates don't fk you by breaking your cc. Which of course they do. Stop complaining about mage. It's great every season, and has been great since the release of the game.
@clintjensen1678 ya and if I played bm I'd say your right but I play mm with no pet. I also get every class to 1800 every season. I get 2400 on at least 1 class and maybe glad in easier seasons. MM is my favorite to play, and I can honestly say out of all the dps it's the hardest, and requires the most sweat from to do well.
Ret feels more like a B in shuffle cause yes they do great damage but it isn't as impactful as some other specs and even when you play your cc and utility right because it's randoms you can't know and be sure that they will take advantage of it
Haha. Warriors and dk's less prevalent on the ladder... what ladder stats is skill capped looking at because according to drustvar those are both in the top 3 most represented dps?
Also SP's having it hard all expansion? Give me a break. This is the first time this expansion they arent competing with balance and eles at the top and they saw a lot of representation in AWC. Rogues in A tier not S? What is skillcapped smoking?
Cyclone isn't the biggest counter to Prevokers' Emerald Communion. The biggest one is Diamond Ice traps from Hunters, because Evokers can actually use Emerald Communion during the trap except it won't launch the spell but it WILL start the cooldown. Cyclone at least prevents you from using the spell, allowing you to use it later.
So, dont cast it durong the trap, its not a counter more then clone just becus you can be dumb with it, plus diamond ice lasts less time / isnt spamable unlike clone
Cyclone kill target during it = 0 heal on kill target. Cyclone is overall best spell in the game because of this. Kill target uses big defensive wall while on 40% hp, you cyclone on it and healer cant heal it, after cyclone he is still at 40% without wall, you cyclone healer then, OP
idk about assa being A tier because of their 'rise in popularity at higher ratings' when there are only 11 assa rogues above 2.4 atm and 4 of them are alts
Depends on situtaion, are there pets? Armor type your fighting, is the disc actully doing damage? Is the fw being in melee being taken advantage of for easy cc, what build is the disc ect ect It has the ability to do more then fw yea, but thats not just disc
Me, the CHAD duelist preservation Evoker. You can be sure if i do a glad push, it will be on Devastation though lol. Shit is hard on preservation right now.
Yes, I'm Prevoker too, and I got to 1970 CR in 2s with a 79/62 winrate. Pretty good, right? Now compare it to my solo shuffle rating with the same character: 1766 CR with a 432/424 winrate. Lmao. Nearly 900 rounds of solo shuffle played and I still haven't reached Rival on this garbo character. By comparison, I got 1800 in 30 rounds of shuffle on my Mistweaver main, week 1 of the season. Jesus Christ.
@@LeCaptRage I just played a round of shuffle. Some hunter was going 0-6, but the rogue killed the windwalker during shadowy duel, and I lost 2-4 instead of going 3-3. I lost 33 CR. Lmao.
@@manthe3711 Shit is hard on healers in shuffle. You should focus on 2s ,3s on Rank BG for healing. It's way more fun and people actually have more brain and play as a team.
@@LeCaptRage RBG is PvE, I'm never touching this bracket. But yes, the other two are better for sure. But it's fine, shuffle is good practice and I get to play instantly, it's all just wasted time. I've improved a lot over...*sigh*...900 rounds.
My only question for the channel: What classes are the Devs playing? Since BC the classes that Devs play (those that PVP, Arena, RBG) are the ones that find their way to A and S tier. Rogues and warlocks in BC, Paladins and Dks in Wrath... etc. Its not a myth to look at the top execs at WoW/Blizzard and find that they largely played DH adn Paladin for almost all Season 1 and 2... then stopped to work on The War Within... when they stopped, other devs started helping their pet classes and ignored all others... Case in point, Shadow Priest, DK, etc... you can always point to a top tier class and show why this is not true but guess what, there can only be so man top tier at once, the majority of the community is 1200-1400 rank and do not run scripts, bots, or use add-ons to run the game for them. I love PVP but it corrupted by game design that favors one class (the paladin with its perfect talent tree - now offset with nerfs because it was made right and rather than elevate others to similar tree, they punished the player base that don't cheat) (And the outlaw rogue... geee wonder which devs are playing that currently).
They're playing pure dps classes. I've played WoW since launch, Rogue, Mage, Warrior and Warlock will always be great. I can't recall a season where those classes had all bad specs, meanwhile on my retribution paladin, I've had entire expansions where I'm useless. Mage
Yeah the problem is though that they're completely broken. There are some absurd stats floating around on the winrate of Resto Druids right now. While it may be nice climbing that high, the problem is if the spec has a 70% average winrate in the 2400+ bracket right now, you ain't going to be seeing it playable after the next major patch. They'll nerf it, and you'll probably drop ~200 points or more. At least you'll get the elite armor, but a LOT of people are going to quit PvP when they go from winning everything to going like 0/6 every round and are then hardstuck in the 1600s.
@@Dark3nedDragonThats why you dont fucking play meta and try to master what you're already good at meta or not. Evoker in general is meh, Dev is fine and pres is meh and I'm at 2k -2.2k in all brackets and I haven't even started a big push to try and get glad. I'm like 60-70% winrate on pres in shuffle and it's considered the worst healer. People switch and try to play what's meta when they should really focus on what they like/good at.
@@Dark3nedDragon Despiste having a ridiculous win rate at higher ratings, resto druid win ratio until 2.1cr is below 50%. Not different to sub rogues who have high skill ceiling and struggle when you're bad. I can't really expect blizzard pvp devs to balance it up considering only 5% of the pvpers.
Hpal is S in shuffle. Pres and hpriest should switch places. Mw and disc are A tier. Boomkin not being S for shuffle is an INSANE take . Sp is not on the same tier as Aug. move it up one. Sub rogue not being in S is one of the most delusional takes I have ever seen.
i main a sub rogue and play around 2k mmr in solo shuffle. sub rogue is in C tier if played in -2200 mmr since ur entire team would like to stun randomly and fuck up all ur setups
@@neverloved228your not really supposed let it reach high damp in suffle as disc, thats like me saying hpal is the worst healer at using life grip, its not suposed to.
"[Demon hunters] are still doing the highest sustained damage of any melee in the game." Overlaid on a clip of an UH DK doing 20-50k more DPS than the DH the whole time...
DH sure deal highest damage but if you watched a video Supatease released High Damage doesn't mean a Win which is true, I've gotten top damage in many lobbies and still lost because it's cleave damage. Rogues for example don't have to deal as high damage because they are single target burst with set up control but STILL win.
It's funny about the warrior specialization i up more easily, my cr in fury 63% winrate vs 48% winrate in arms. And the gameplay is more fun in fury, i hope to see fury is S tiers one day, just for flex 😎💪🏾
Yeah the whole talk about plate classes being less prevalent on the ladder is pure 🤡 though. All my lobbies are any combo of warr, DK, ret, DH, rogue, Hunter and lock. I see precisely one clothie and all plate classes. Mostly there are 3 melee most of which are plate and one Hunter or lock. Beyond silly. I play shuffle on 7 specs.
Is MMR for healers fixed or is the game still failing healers for playing their role? PVP is not a team event, it is largely one guy seeking his own glory and using the other players to accomplish this... the only people that don;t experience this are sponsored, paid to win or lose, top tier players... WoW PVP is punishment to healers, undue glory for broken DPS classes that the Devs currently play, and designed to enable script writing bots and the cheaters to profit from add-ons and script bots. There is no equal footing in PVP, you are always playing with someone who cheats, can do nothing about it, or being punished for healing.
it's trash. if I go 4-2 I gain 20. if I go 1-5 I lose 50. if I go 2-4 I lose 30-40. every. single. time. I go 4-0 they DC and I never get a shot to go 6-0,5-1. if someone drops you should get wins or something. literally happened 3 times to me yesterday. more often than not I go 3-3. my win % is like 50.6%
honestly if they gave 5-15ish MMR to healers that go 3-3 the game would be so much better way more ppl would heal reducing q times. healing SUCKS as far as mmr goes, but I think it's more fun than DPS usually. but I don't know how much longer I can do this
Do dumb skill-capped video makers not check class distribution and correlate it against games played for this specc? How can you possibly rank RSham that high. It is absolute garbage according to SS ladder. It does good in 3s, but not in SS. Why are you so bad at basic stats/math?
