As u HUGE Bret Hart fan, I don't blame Goldberg. I blame the powers behind WCW, letting Goldberg to go that long without, more training? Mentoring? Idk... but you can't blame Bret for getting sour or bitter at times, you see Sting, Ric Flair, a bunch of wrestlers in their passing years, and miss out on being able to wrestle the next couple generations of wrestlers knowing you were the best ever
Yeah man it hurts bret could be making a lot of money if he wasn't injured. We lost out on possibly the greatest match of all-time. Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle. Imagine Bret in TNA working with a Young AJ Styles, rematches with HBK etc...
Bret Hart: the man who never injured an opponent in a career that lasted 20 years. The safest worker in the history of professional wrestling. He apparently shares responsibility for his injury against a relatively green guy who kicked him square in the face out of nowhere. FOH, Bischoff.
@@KAR5AVATARGT Yeah Bret did know who he was getting in the ring with, thats why he said he didn't want to wrestle him. Bret didn't book the matches, Bischoff did.
Bret flip-flopping on his stance on Goldberg isn't surprising. He's healed enough to live a "normal" life, but his brain is still effed up - what happened to Bret was beyond just a concussion... it was severe brain trauma. That has lasting implications. So Bret changing his opinion on what happened isn't a surprised, considering the trauma to his brain. Bret's is lucky he didnt' get turned into a drooling doll after that. I just hope his family watches him, as people with that level of trauma start drifting toward dark thoughts as they get older. I recall the concussion of a Vikings kicker/punter (can't remember his name at the moment) that was concussed so severely that it basically changed who he was as a human being. Brain injuries are no joke.
“Bret has to take a certain responsibility for what happened to him”? Nobody should ever put a mic in front of Eric Bischoff ever again. Every take he has lately isn’t worth a coffee cup. Not even the coffee, the literal paper cup.
I'll never understand the way Bret Hart's mind works, he forgives WWE who is directly responsible for his brother's death but he can't forgive Goldberg no matter how many times Goldberg expresses his remorse
I met Goldberg and got to be his photographer at an event. He’s one of the nicest and he’s really good hearted. My friend is a hardcore wrestling mark who hated Goldberg since we were in 7th grade. He became a fan that day. I know it doesn’t absolve him of criticism but I wanted to share it. If you’re a wrestling fan and get the chance to meet him, do it.
Goldberg vs. Scott Steiner at Fall Brawl 2000 was another really good match (albeit with a very stupid build to it and a dumb finish). Bischoff is full of it here. Bret was renowned for wanting to make matches look good while being as safe as possible. Goldberg, and even he will admit this, was barely trained. And he had injured other wrestlers in the ring as well (LA Parka, The Giant, Konnan, etc). That injury was in NO WAY Bret’s fault.
I think maybe Bill getting to have the comeback that Bret never got to have. Getting to just show up every so often and get paid lots of money for a few minutes work. And Bill not only NOT being any better in the ring, but being WORSE and more dangerous (almost dropping Undertaker on his head during their match for example). All of that may have soured Bret on Goldberg more than before I think.
@@rickhaavisto9023 To this day I get goosebumps watching the one part of the Montreal Screwjob match where Hart and Michaels are fighting in the crowd. Those fans were like rabid animals back in the day and Jim Ross said that he was worried there was going to be a riot afterwards.
I was a Goldberg mark as a kid and even now I’m still a fan although gets a lot of flack cause of how wild he was back then I think it’s awesome he came back and kind of has a better love for the business than when he left
You know I wonder if Bischoff's hatred towards AEW maybe is messing his brain up when it comes to giving out answers now it could be a theory or not but wow that was a very bad take he said. 🤔
He only got lucky with the NWO being as successful as it was on Monday Night Nitro. Everything else he came up with either fell short of the NWO’s success barring Goldberg or flopped and the poor booking in hindsight of the WCW vs NWO conflict, Curt Hening defecting from the Four Horsemen to NWO and Hogan vs Warrior II comes to mind.
I understand how people feel about Goldberg but I still like and him let's be honest he's doing this so he can make a good living and at the end of the day that's what it's all about providing for your goddamn family. If anyone was in his position they would have done the same thing. And Goldberg did said in an interview he didn't want to win the universal title off of Bray Wyatt, that was Vince McMahon's idea.
Just playing devil’s advocate, but I think what Bischoff might have been trying to point out is that everyone who steps in the ring knows they’re putting themselves at some level of risk, obviously making this statement to somewhat defend a friend. Bret has been very vocal about his frustration over what happened, understandably so, and just constantly buries Goldberg. I’m sure some of his peers would like him to “take the high road” and maybe lay off of Bill a little, but it’s important to understand just how many millions of dollars this incident cost Bret. He could have had huge deals with WWE if he would have been able to have a second run the way HBK. I see both sides for very different reasons. Ultimately, it was an accident that could have and should have been prevented.
why is no one talking about how the concussion went undiagnosed for 3 weeks. talk about blame goldberg or head of wcw but not the medics that told that man it was safe for him to keep going out there.
What's the quote in question, again that The Solomonster mentions around 13:28-13:35?... I literally haven't listened to any new episodes of 'The Solomonster Sounds Off' in quite a while & don't know what it is. I do remember hearing a clip of Bret "The Hitman" Hart saying "I am a one-man wrecking crew..." & I forgot what the story was behind that one, however.
As a WCW diehard, it always seems that anytime there’s commentary on Goldberg it’s over done to make him look perfect or he’s getting completely buried and they make the guy look like he can’t walk and chew gum. Very rarely has his story ever been told honestly. Yes in the summer of 1998 he was the most over a guy in the company and he beat Hogan for the big gold belt on nitro in the Georgia Dome in front of 40,000+ people and that was a great night on nitro. But everyone always forgets that by the fall of 1998 he wasn’t as over anymore. WCW fans were different from WWF fans. WWF fans you could literally do the same thing night and night out and that’s what they wanted. And WCW things had to evolve, That’s why Eric Bishoff listening to Hogan about the finger poke of doom and putting the NWO back together was a terrible idea. But as they were getting up to Starrcade The fans were chanting “Goldberg sucks” and they were having to put in Goldburg chance over the PA system. But the guy did have good matches. I think looking back if someone would’ve actually mentored him and explain to him that you can’t go undefeated your entire career and explain to him why he couldn’t I think he would’ve understood. Yeah undefeated streak was a great tool to get him over but the problem was if you just keep the 32nd matches and no one ever beats him at some point the fans do get tired of it. I love Jim Ross but his commentary on this subject has always bothered me, for one he wasn’t in WCW at the time and he completely overlooked the fact that the fans were tired of him doing these 30 second matches. I mean God forbid if it was another wrestler that did this he would’ve been booed out of the building and the dirt sheets would’ve shit all over him. And Kevin Nash actually started booking two months after Starrcade even Eric Bischoff is commits by the time he handed the book to Kevin it was already too late they had already made too many wrong decisions and WCW was swirling the drain at this point.
Bret has made some comments about Bischoff and his management style in wcw so now he takes the time to snipe at Bret whenever he can, even when it's saying something as ludicrous as what he said in that documentary.
Was his first comeback really that bad? Granted, I only started watching that famous 03 Summerslam, and as a kid at the time, I had no clue who Goldberg was, but he kicked ass, so I course didn't really mind((Even if Triple H was my fave lmao.)) I can get why people didn't like it, but I didn't think it was a disaster at all.
It honestly wasn’t nearly as bad as people make it out to be, I think what people didn’t like was that they had Goldberg try to be a long match wrestler when his biggest strengths are in total destruction much like a Post beating streak Brock Lesnar. But I overall feel the same and honestly liked a handful of Raw matches Goldberg had during that time and even his big WHC win against HHH was good. Also a fact most people don’t like to point out but in kayfabe Brock lost the title to Eddie Guerrero in part thanks to Goldberg wounding him.
@@brandynrivas591 Yes. When they came to be in 95, Goldberg was one of the players they selected in the expansion draft. I think he had injured his pelvis during that offseason which led to him getting cut.
The dude here mentions that and yes, before stone cold caught fire and the rock, sting was poised as the next guy. Shit he outsold nWo shirts when they were at their peak. A huge draw in WCW. After starrcade though he's right, they didn't just cool him off they threw an iceberg on top of him. Bischoffs breath smells of hogan's anus. Even decades after, and ain't it ironic that the tag team of the blade runners were both considered "not ready brother" when both got to their peaks
I was teenager in 98. Never a huge fan of goldberg, but I remember nitro at the Georgia dome. I was so happy I couldn't believe it. I was so ready for someone to take that belt, clean it off and put the nwo down! Just goes to show, when wrestling is done right, it doesn't even matter if you like or dislike the performers, the storytelling can capture you.
For me squash matches were the toilet break of their day, and the Goldberg squash machine was total shit. I understand what squash matches are about, but to see your favourite jacked-up wrestler beat up a skinny nobody in a one sided fight is so fkn boring.
How the hell is Bret Hart responsible for Bill Goldberg injuring him? If anything its the fault of WCW higher ups and I think Bischoff know that, that's why he tries to pawn the blame off on Bret.
Kevin Nash didn't book himself to beat Goldberg. Kevin already addressed this in a previous interview. He beat Goldberg in December but didn't join the booking committee until February. 2 months later
He's contradicted that statement on numerous occasions. He claims in other shoots that he feels he was as over as Bill at the time. OK sure. The Wolfpac was over, doesn't mean you should get the belt.
Goldberg coming back for one run against Lesnar would have been nostalgia done well but they overdid it and overstayed his welcome. Still, a legend of my childhood
I think of the story Bruce Prichard told about the angle between Goldberg and Jericho in WWE, where they laid out this routine where Jericho threw paint on Goldberg's car, and drives away, Goldberg finds out, and takes off after Jericho in the car. Prichard said they rehersed that routine over and over, repeteadly, with Goldberg to make sure it went off right. When they were live and did the scene, Goldberg did none of what he was supposed to do and fucked up the angle. No explantion for it .
Goldberg was so over they were following his streak on ESPN. I think the Nitro of him winning against Hogan was the highlight and the most insane crowd reaction of WCW Nitro era.
Wcw got absolutely lucky with goldberg because it was the beginning of the end after starrcade 97. But gokdberg kept it going singlehandedly. Solomonster go back to older bobby heenan interviews. Heenan literally said gokdberg lisibg to nadh cost bout 30 jobs to be cut. NOBODY wanted to see goldberg lose and like me we ysed to watch gokdberg wrestle then change the channel back to raw. Wcw lost viewers after goldberg was not on. Fully true. Then wat could have been remorse if goldberg really faced nash and beat him in the nitro rematch instead we get THE FINGER POKE OF DOOM. bischoff will never admit it because how close he is to hogan. But wcw was lucky becsuse hsd it not been for goldberg wcw would have folded sooner. Even heenan admitted it.
Yep. You don't make Goldberg lose his 0 like that. What wcws biggest problem was pulling that run in shit 80% of the time and 99% of the time closing the show. If I'd pick who Goldberg would lose to first it wouldn't of been nash.
@@sleazyfellow facts. Hogan helped wcw then helped bury it over his ego. Nash is in podcasts now but people forget even he himself wanted to leave because of hogan. Ur the head booker but you cant get hogan to put anyone over. But since they are all friends they keep their mouths shut. Nash & hall left wwe cause of bret but pimped bret out to wcw for their gain because they had barry bloom and bischoff didnt even know they had a favored nations clause that stated if any other wrestler made more money than them with the exception of hogan, they can get either = pay or an agreed renegotiated deal yet KNOWING they nor hogan had zero interest with working with bret which was why bret has every reason to hate them and be bitter. They pimped Goldberg the same way when they gave him bloom as his agent which was why VINCE would not work with bloom. And they only made up with hogan because hogan went to turner to also have them get more money. Nash on his podcast with KLIQ THIS literally said he and hall had their contracts renegotiated more than they changed their underwear. Crap on russo all you want but on both of his stints in 99 & 2000 hiz goal was to get hogan off of tv. He had to go. Goldberg losing to nash was bad enough but no rematch and we get the finger poke of doom solodified the end of wcw
I love Bret Hart... I really do... he is my favorite of all time... and I love his brutal honesty and he doesn't hold back on what he says more or less... but this is OUT OF LINE... OUT OF BOUNDS... and it makes him look small & bitter in the same process! The way he speaks of Goldberg "ending his career"... he acts like that was the final match of his career... If were going to be honest here, Bret wrestled FOR 3 MORE WEEKS after their Starrcade 1999 match and took additional punishment in the process..... Final Televised Matches via DDT Digest: - vs. Goldberg (Starrcade '99 / 12-19-99) - vs. Goldberg (Nitro '99 / 12-20-99) - vs. Chris Benoit (Thunder '99 / 12-23-99) took numerous german suplexes on the back of his neck & head - vs. Jerry Flynn (Nitro '99 / 12-27-99) ate a kick to the face from martial arts trained Flynn - segment brawl w/ Sid Vicious (Nitro '00 / 01-03-00) dumped on his head & neck from a powerbomb - vs. Terry Funk (Thunder '00 / 01-06-00) took many unprotected aluminum trash can shots and chair shots to the head from Funk - vs. Kevin Nash (Nitro '00 / 01-10-00) - segment brawl w/ nWo vs. Sid Vicious, Chris Benoit, & Terry Funk (Thunder '00 / 01-12-00) received another powerbomb from Sid to close the show Bret took many dangerous bumps to the back of his head during this time period... if he had pulled the plug earlier... he probably could have wrestled a few more years and retired possibly in 2004. But to blame Goldberg entirely is FLAT-OUT IRRESPONSIBLE!
Bret is a textbook egomaniac. He can’t admit that he’s at fault in anything. Aways blaming someone else for all his shortcomings. You look up pompous in the dictionary then you’ll see Bret’s picture there.
I’m guessing: Goldberg mark? Goldberg himself admits that it was his fault. “The biggest mistake I ever made, and for those who haven’t heard it, I apologize profusely.” It was his fault.
Concussions even now aren't fully understood but especially back then they weren't. I'm sure nowadays Bret wouldn't have worked any of those matches but back then people would work through it. NFL players would play through concussions all the time back then but now have to go through a concussion protocol.
@@PoorStretch ... respectfully disagree... because TURNER FEARED LAWSUITS! If you're a longtime fan of Wrestling... especially during the Monday Night War Era... WCW would always have 4-6 of their TOP 10 guys out at any given period due to "injuries"... that was because the contracts were guaranteed and their was no further incentive to do anything else..... Also... Bret had enough "cache" to stop at any given time and say that he was hurt and continued to see stars!
Goldberg's First WWE Run from 2003-2004 was very Underwhelming his WWE theme is 10X Better than His WCW Theme and it still doesn't make sense that his WWE theme is Dubbed on Peacock even though WWE still owns the rights to it and didn't the use it on Raw when he came back Hopefully they put it on Peacock since Watching his first WWE run just isn't the same with his WWE theme being Dubbed.
his first run was ruined by hhh he wouldnt drop the belt to him and when he did it was because hhh had an injury, this was during hhh run as champ and ran over everyone and was the champ even though all the fans hatted it, also no way should hhh won the elimination chamber match, that was dumb thats why im not all for hhh taking over how much will this go to his head
@@nefariousmex2352 I actually liked his WWE theme more than his WCW Theme for the simple fact that it has the commentary Unedited and it doesn't have the fake crowd noise.
There’s heat between Bret and Eric. Bret is quite open with his feelings towards Eric so this isn’t surprising. Anytime either of them gets some questions about each other, they’re gonna shit on each other.
Bischoff loves to rewrite history to make himself look better, he pretends to know more than he does, lots of people who worked with him will say he doesn’t know shit about wrestling, the way he used Brett is a testament to that, he was the hottest star in the business after the Montreal screw job and he’s brought in a month later to be a special referee, yeah Brett hurt his hand punching Vince but goddamn they coulda done better than that, can’t blame Brett for blaming Bischoff for his run not being that memorable, and sadly the career of an all time great ended on a whimper
Bret in his shoot interview from I guess the early 2000s mentions the big potatoes he took before the kick, the figure 4 and a random elbow Goldberg hit him with. As for bischoff, guys a complete idiot and had 1 good idea his entire time in wrestling. You can't say Goldberg was his idea either cause that was a completely spontaneous push that didn't come from an office, it was the fans.
Wish Bret would make up his mind on if he forgives Goldberg or not but if he forgives him then move on. I always felt like he had no business being in wcw anyway
Didn't know Bret could've been concussed from that figure 4 spot and if he kept wrestling after the match with Goldberg whether he knew or not sounds like we can't put all the blame on Goldberg, mistakes happen.
People are surprised how petty Bischoff is? How soon we forget he wanted to “Put the stake in Vince’s heart, take it out, and stab him again”, read RAW results on Nitro, and totally rip any fans that didn’t agree with either his views or his booking. He’s a manchild that was given a blank checkbook by Ted Turner. That’s his legacy.
For a guy who ruined two companies, Bischoff seems to have a pretty high opinion for himself. Hes lives off a year of success he had 25 yesrs ago. At least Bully Ray has had a successful career to back up his shit takes
I have no sympathy for Brett hart for just how much of a bitter old man he’s become and how flip floppy he is on the Goldberg thing. I don’t really like Goldberg the wrestler but he seems to have grown and just become somewhat of a decent person since his wcw days. Brett is just as bad as bischoff , actually he’s worse.
