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Somebody brought in a Stern STARS Pinball Machine that was COMPLETELY DESTROYED - Let's Fix It! 

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@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 3 года назад
I always feel encouraged with these videos, because when I see something THIS far gone, it gets fixed up one small step at a time....and it makes me feel better about big messy projects I have here. My current "messy" project is a 1961Seeburg Jukebox that hadn't been working for 30 years. It's getting closer each day. I wish the Jukebox techs showed the same kindness as guitar amp techs. When I was a rookie at guitar amps, I got lots of great help. In the jukebox world it seems to be "buy my book or go away"..... I'm dyslexic dammit!, books are torture. One dude made some DVD's on the topics I need, hopefully that is going to be the ticket. I'm not dumb, I just learn differently. Your video series makes me NOT afraid to try out fixing up a pinball if one comes up in the auctions for chump change. I like to fix things, but I don't learn well from manuals and reading. I can use the diagrams, but a visual "how to test" is the best tool I could ask for!
@rustychopps
@rustychopps 3 года назад
You never fail at making me laugh Ronnie "I think that's drywall" haha
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
LOL
@KabukeeJo
@KabukeeJo 3 года назад
Customer: It's dead Joe!! Joe: Challenge accepted.
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 3 года назад
This machine is the automotive equivalent of a "ran when parked" Craigslist ad, lol! I have no doubt you'll return this bad boy to its former glory though!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yeah people tell us all the time "It used to work" haha EVERYTHING USED TO WORK
@scottmccann
@scottmccann 3 года назад
Bless you Ron for taking on another late 70s classic. The pinball Gods are smiling.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
We try to fix most of the ones we run across :)
@mcostafernando
@mcostafernando 3 года назад
Every pinball machine deserves a chance! Glad it landed in your hands to fix it, Ron!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
We're gonna get it :)
@Sunsetdrivein
@Sunsetdrivein 3 года назад
The rectifier board, solenoid board, and MPU board all have those little plastic "padlocks" on them. So there should be someone's company name on those padlocks to tell you who worked on those boards.
@Ajaxaxxess
@Ajaxaxxess 3 года назад
Pins and classic cars are never to far gone.. you need skills and deep pockets !
@Maxxarcade
@Maxxarcade 3 года назад
My favorite kind of projects! They are the most satisfying to restore.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Me too! When you're done you can stand back and go "Yup, fixed that one."
@melanatedprose9134
@melanatedprose9134 3 года назад
Thanks for the shoutout my buddy Ron, I know-lol! Actually Joe is partly right. Big Daddy Kane's "Ain't No Half Steppin'" did reach number 52 on the Billboard Hot Black Singles chart. Billboard in 1988 didn't put out rap charts. Largely but not totally because they thought Rap Music was a fad like Disco music. I don't know the exact year Billboard started making rap charts. They certainly had them in the early to mid 200O's. My job at the Newspaper was to input all the various charts like Country, Pop, Rap singles and albums into the system. The charts would be listed in the Sunday edition of the Newspaper. Great video and this Stern is cleaning up and coming along nicely.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I never paid any attention to the charts back then, lately I've been listening to all of Biz Markie's stuff in case you don't know Melanated Prose nobody beats the biz. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4kktdbzlIFA.html
@melanatedprose9134
@melanatedprose9134 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade The era of Big Daddy Kane, Special ED, Eric B. and Rakim, Biz Markie, Public Enemy etc. was the Golden Age of rap/hip hop.
@randomrepair1680
@randomrepair1680 3 года назад
I'm just rebuilding a stars now too. Had to do a cabinet swap, it was sitting on a wet floor and rotted. I took a memory lane cabinet and painted and re stenciled. I bought the CPR playfield, backglass and plastics. It's looking almost like a new machine
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Good luck with it, love those old Sterns!
@martywolfman
@martywolfman 3 года назад
Awesome to see it coming back to life. A lot in this state would have been scrapped, it's great to see this being saved.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
We like to save the ones that are rough!
@webdoc90
@webdoc90 3 года назад
Got to see this before in person and I think the dirt actually protected the play field. This should turn out very nice.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I think so too Mike! That dirt gets on there and keeps the paint from fading or chipping off!
@jeffschwallie5675
@jeffschwallie5675 2 года назад
My daughter inherited a Hollywood Heat pinball machine from my sister when she passed. It doesn't work - a few lights turn on. This will be a project for us. This video was enlightening in how you approach troubleshooting. I'm looking forward to the challenge. Thanks for sharing this video!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 года назад
very cool Jeff.... Hollywood Heat was a Gottlieb game, if you watch our series that we did on Gottlieb's "Bad Girls" it shows how to fix them, your Hollywood Heat will be nearly identical :)
@jeffschwallie5675
@jeffschwallie5675 2 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Thanks for the tip. Since finding this channel, I've been literally glued to the videos. I think I had 4 hours under my belt last night. Wife is looking at me funny. I work on automated equipment in contact lens manufacturing. If a servo drive goes bad, we replace the whole drive. We will send it out for repairs and never dive in to the component level like you do. I think I can troubleshoot the more simple things. When it comes to determining if a component is bad on a board, I'll be lost. I took AC and DC circuits in college a million years ago and designed simple circuits. I remember the 555 timer. My lab partner and I thought we were cool calling it the tri-5. Anyway, I'll watch the video you suggest. Thanks.
@charlesn898
@charlesn898 3 года назад
The reason that the boards and displays of Bally and Stern Electronics are so similar is that when Sam and Gary Stern bought Chicago Coin and founded Stern Electronics they purchased several other companies as well. One of the companies they bought was URL Laboratories the people who designed the boardset for Bally. This basically gave them a back door to the design.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thank you for the info, I didn't know URL Laboratories had done them.... do we know for sure (I've heard both ways) if they had Bally's permission ahead of time?
@charlesn898
@charlesn898 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade That's a good question. Either Bally didn't care about what Stern did or (more likely IMHO) some sort of arrangement or understanding was reached between the two.
@dansledepot107
@dansledepot107 3 года назад
Oh snap! Another classic pinball video series. Wow, its just like Christmas!!...wait, it is!
@curtismanley3459
@curtismanley3459 3 года назад
Stern Stars... interesting... looks like a modified version of Meteor or vice-versa. Keep it up there with all the repair videos and hints!
@the40yogamer
@the40yogamer 3 года назад
1:25 that's the cocaine from over the years
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I think I got a little bit of it in my mouth, that would explain why I've been running around with my shirt off for the last 3 days...
@frankgagliano9677
@frankgagliano9677 3 года назад
Great video Joe, liked how little fix here then a little fix there started the heart beat of the machine. Can not wait for the next one. I am going to jump ahead but how to clean the plastic pieces on the playfield? Huge thumbs up
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
The plastics I've never had any trouble cleaning up with windex or 409, I've had some in much worse shape than this too. They also make a product called "Novus" that works great on plastic things.
@frankgagliano9677
@frankgagliano9677 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Thanks Joe keep the video's
@markt6199
@markt6199 3 года назад
Starting with some crap! Literally starting with crap. LOL
@joehead1294
@joehead1294 3 года назад
Man, that Fluke 23 has some kind of patina on it. I bet you had it many years and it's earned you mucho dinero. Show it some love and give it a bath.
@tcb8295
@tcb8295 3 года назад
It's alive....micro farad🎶... thanks Ron for another fun & entertaining pinball recovery.
@MarkRiffe
@MarkRiffe 3 года назад
Hello. I Enjoy your content. I Look forward to seeing more of the out come with this machine. Best Regards Sir... Good luck with the new store
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks Mark, we appreciate you hanging out with us and checking out the videos!
@grfeld84
@grfeld84 3 года назад
Let the resurrection begin! Here's to you! Good luck! You can do it!
@roryvonbrutt7302
@roryvonbrutt7302 2 года назад
looks like a great game I like the layout‼️®™️
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 года назад
It has a reputation for being a good game, people love it!
@saskia6750
@saskia6750 3 года назад
:) still playing catch up,but very happy to see this beauty ! thanks guys !! x
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I know we're going really fast with the videos right now for the Holidays they'll slow down a bit at the beginning of the year and make it easier to keep up, lol. Thanks for watching Saskia, Merry Christmas!
@saskia6750
@saskia6750 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade and a merry christmas to you guys too !! Thank you for all your videos this year !! wouldnt get by without you guys !! x :)
@darronsmith5544
@darronsmith5544 3 года назад
Those blue tags look like the ones TNT put in al the machines they work on. It would be cool to check with them as it could complete the history of the machine 😀 Love the work you do Joe and videos, one day I hope to have a real Machine until then I keep playing my VM one. You got a thumbs up 👍👍👍👍 from me.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
The ones on this one were from a different place, a local distributor named Brady Distributing, but unfortunately they're out of business now!
@darronsmith5544
@darronsmith5544 3 года назад
Lol I watched the next video and you explain it, I should have waited until the end. Thank you for answering the more I watch I see how much love you give to these old machines. How much time did it fully take not on video to finish this? can’t wait for the second part of the juke box to be posted 😀
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 3 года назад
That burnt device is a MOV - metal oxide varistor. Over time they can break down and burn up. That's why newer surge protectors connect a thermal fuse to them - so they don't start any fires.
@JohnnyG10178
@JohnnyG10178 3 года назад
the person who thumbed this down was the rat who lived in the backbox.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
it's all the people telling me "Oooh, you're gonna get sick" people have forgotten how to have a good time.
@yuwish6320
@yuwish6320 2 года назад
That varistor, lol. Looks like it got struck by lightning.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 года назад
Probably did! Or the Varistor just failed or something, I don't know how bad those are about self destructing :)
@roryvonbrutt7302
@roryvonbrutt7302 2 года назад
I don't know, but that looks like it has a hell of a lot of potential❗️ just by the very first look of it, especially in your hands‼️®™️
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 2 года назад
I liked it, we were able to bring it back!
@EsotericArctos
@EsotericArctos 3 года назад
Think of Varistor like Resistor. Except it varies depending on Voltage/Heat. Basically you are saying it right. Versions of them can also be used as input surge current protection or a "soft start" of sorts as well as overvoltage protection :)
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
That makes sense, thanks Brendan! We appreciate the info :)
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 3 года назад
The +5vdc on the driver board leaves on Pin#13 to power the MPU board & what else? then Loops back to the driver board on Pin#25 to power the solenoids driver transistors?
@joshsorheim
@joshsorheim 3 года назад
Everybody else is all excited about the Star Wars show, meanwhile I cant wait to what Ron has to fix, clean, or paint next.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
To be fair the Star Wars show is pretty cool too, I've been watching it. It's so good you can't even talk about it without spoiling something...
@joshsorheim
@joshsorheim 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade haha I’m going to watch it but I had to make a choice between Disney plus or money to get a Gottlieb Bonanza... the bonanza won the funds 😂
@lascheque
@lascheque 3 года назад
Thanks for introducing me to Lakeside's It's All The Way Live, I didn't know it, but I am diggin' it :D
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
If you think you can handle it, check out "Apache" by the Sugar Hill gang, considered one of the very first rap songs from way back in the 1970's, lol - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YKhi9ITkRgA.html
@lascheque
@lascheque 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Believe it or not, but I have this on 7" vinyl record :D They sure didn't leave much of the original intact :D
@douro20
@douro20 2 года назад
I would secure the wire on the back of the solenoid driver board with hot glue.
@GPFlljk
@GPFlljk 3 года назад
Looking forward to this turnaround.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
We'll be working on it all this week!
@jeremiahsherman2718
@jeremiahsherman2718 3 года назад
you may have been exposed to the Bubonic Plague LOL
@augustaking8
@augustaking8 9 месяцев назад
Varistors can cool-off and work again.
@scottmccann
@scottmccann 3 года назад
What is that yellow plastic thing that looks like a padlock on the solenoid board? Thanks Ron.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Those are put on the boards after they're repaired by the distributor/repair shop so that if you bring it back while it's under warranty, if it doesn't have the lock on it they know it's a different board.
@djmips
@djmips 3 года назад
ah yeah . I'm with this. I'm just gonna sit here laid back to this nice mellow video, you know? (aint no half stepping)
@AzCowboyOne
@AzCowboyOne 3 года назад
Who is playing Sonic in the background when I am trying to get edumicated on classic rap?
@pin-monkeypinball3548
@pin-monkeypinball3548 3 года назад
Love that game.
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 3 года назад
I know people can catch chlamydia from koala bears.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I mean i love Koalas but I think that's probably illegal!
@scottthatcher9086
@scottthatcher9086 3 года назад
I love that bird poop touch must of been in a Orange Storage facility.
@RETROGAMER56195
@RETROGAMER56195 3 года назад
Seeing this machine made me realize my Bally Future Spa machine is in so much better nick than this, and I thought it was a shitbox. It runs but the flipper coils keep burning out lol
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
There is an end of stroke switch on the flipper coils that opens up when the coil pulls in, the pawl hits it and opens it up... if it doesn't open you'll have full power on your flippers all the time and the coils will burn up.
@RETROGAMER56195
@RETROGAMER56195 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade Oh that's probably why, because I was wondering why it was always closed and I mentioned it to him but he just shook it off as nothing. I'll let my dad know cause we've been working on it as a little project!
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly 2 года назад
The gonorrhea comment reminds me of a joke. Two sergeants were like, "Let's get drunk, we're sergeants." Then they were like, "Let's go find some women, we're sergeants." They soon developed lesions somewhere and saw the doctor. "What did the doc tell you?" "We have gonorrhea." "What's that?" "Let's check the dictionary. It says it is a disease of the privates." "That's impossible. Surely we couldn't have gotten that. We're sergeants!"
@memyopinionsche6610
@memyopinionsche6610 3 года назад
Dose the rectifier get hot? Would that be the reason it's always on a heat sink?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yup they get a little toasty!
@mfranzusan3014
@mfranzusan3014 Год назад
Gonorrhea isn't your concern with mouse nests. I'd be more concerned with Hanta Virus! Lol
@benjaminpiacquadio7030
@benjaminpiacquadio7030 3 года назад
I have a Stars machine that was stuck up in an attic for over 40 years in a school. Can you provide me any direction on how to get the parts to replce the plying field.
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Yes you can buy many of the parts on www.MarcoSpec.com depending on what you need...
@DDE100
@DDE100 3 года назад
Hi Ron, thanks for another great video. Where do you get the 15000uf cap? Thanks.
@rogerpotempo
@rogerpotempo 3 года назад
im goinna check out my brother donnies videos, thanks for the heads up 👍👍👍
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks Roger, we'll see you over there :)
@pezjohnson
@pezjohnson 3 года назад
microfarad (lol) . So many videos recently. Did we finish the jukebox? Did we finish the 8 ball. Maybe I need to catch up.
@ZelosZelo
@ZelosZelo 3 года назад
what are those plastic lock looking things?
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 3 года назад
Touching mouse droppings or breathing in the dust particles can cause Hanta Virus Very lethal
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
You definitely shouldn't touch this one then, leave this one to me! You might just want to sit and watch from your couch.
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 3 года назад
@@LyonsArcade When I have to clean up mega-messes, I use a central vacuum, so all dust that gets past the bag goes OUTSIDE.
@99snubby
@99snubby 3 года назад
what are the plastic locks about on the circuit boards?
@martinbaines3719
@martinbaines3719 3 года назад
Repair tags from previous repair work, to stop people with multiple units, trying to get a warranty repair on a recently repaired board. They lock on and cant easily be removed without it being obvious, they have a number stamped on them, which relates to the repair. Without them if you had another identical board fail in a different machine you could send that back and say the repair failed and try and claim another repair under the repair warranty.
@naytch2003
@naytch2003 Год назад
Hey Ronnie what's that blue plastic padlock thing on the board at 17:40?
@PinBallReviewerRepairs
@PinBallReviewerRepairs 3 года назад
Oofs my germaphobia was going off I was thinking hello haunta virus my old friend while you were touching mouse nests in the pin. o.o Call me paranoid but I always use gloves and in that instance a mask as well. o.o
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
You know a Phobia is defined as "Irrational Fear" :) I am not going to conduct myself according to your irrational fears :)
@bhuff123
@bhuff123 3 года назад
Only during a nightmare can you catch those kinds of communicable diseases
@built2last31
@built2last31 3 года назад
holy shit i had one of these in the early 80s
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
This might be the one man, did you put drywall in the glass channel :)
@yesitreallyisme
@yesitreallyisme 3 года назад
Gonna be a good series Ron, Ya haven't got a gorgon hiding in the back to do?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
No we don't have one of those at the moment!
@yesitreallyisme
@yesitreallyisme 3 года назад
Pity, that's another to take me back.
@jasinere35
@jasinere35 3 года назад
this machine had been destroyed by mice the connector & loom got replaced as mice chew thru everything so the bit thats buned out was a result of short circuit caused by mice also some part of the board would be damaged
@markvandesande8855
@markvandesande8855 3 года назад
The Black Death! Yea man 🤪
@kenanderson7877
@kenanderson7877 3 года назад
Oh dear god.....
@DjResR
@DjResR 3 года назад
Transformer has little bit higher than rated voltage output without load, it's normal._
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Thanks for watching Dj!
@gallimead
@gallimead 3 года назад
Time line wise.. in-between Galaxy and Meteor?
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
Nope before both of them!
@alansmith4734
@alansmith4734 3 года назад
4:00 Rat nesting scared me, because they always chew up wires in cars. Turns out, that the Car Manufactures started using soy-based wire insulation in 2000. So, any pinball machine BEFORE 2000 should be fairly safe from mice & rat destruction to the wiring!? Have you seen any wiring issues from the varmints?
@butchs.4239
@butchs.4239 Год назад
A rodent's front teeth grow continuously, they chew on stuff to keep their teeth from getting too long. (similar to how a cat sharpens their claws.) I've seen where squirrels chewing up wiring in the attic of a house caused all sorts of electrical problems, (thankfully not a fire) and that wiring was at least as old as this pinball machine.
@scottthatcher9086
@scottthatcher9086 3 года назад
Lol should of read the Title before i asked a now redundant question.
@Doughiemantoo
@Doughiemantoo 3 года назад
I see you have a little bird-A-poopie on your playfield.
@station240
@station240 3 года назад
Stern Stars Detroit Edition It could have been worse, at least the paintwork on the side and the backglass are OK.
@douro20
@douro20 2 года назад
At least all of the electronics are there. The "Flight 2000" he worked on later was missing the entire power supply, the lockdown bar, a few components on the playfield and one of the boards.
@BluePlanetMedia
@BluePlanetMedia 3 года назад
Original “ain’t no half steppin” was by Heatwave ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pKjkwpgKMd8.html
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
My man!
@LuvADuc
@LuvADuc 3 года назад
Gofundme for a HEPA filter for Ron.
@christopherrasmussen8718
@christopherrasmussen8718 3 года назад
Nothing you can’t fix
@808zhu
@808zhu 3 года назад
🤦
@markussteinbacher8807
@markussteinbacher8807 3 года назад
how ugly is this. You could also heat the house with that wood ? i would be interested how you repaint the playfield. I see a similar star trek pinball next to me with almost no colors on the board anymore...
@izzynutz2000
@izzynutz2000 Год назад
Pronounced Vair ist tur
@chrisschauer9878
@chrisschauer9878 3 года назад
Too funny. Ewww. Ewwww ewwwww
@sjgreaves
@sjgreaves 3 года назад
Isn't it Lymes disease you can get from rodent pee? Hope you wore gloves!
@LyonsArcade
@LyonsArcade 3 года назад
I didn't wear gloves, I'd rather just wash my hands....
@jasonudall8614
@jasonudall8614 3 года назад
I think that's Weil's disease .
@sjgreaves
@sjgreaves 3 года назад
@@jasonudall8614 You're right, leptospirosis, - either way, good to take care! (Lymes disease is spread by ticks)
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