I'll forever associate that Vanessa Carlton song with the time somebody modded a piano as a car in GTA IV and went on a rampage through the streets of liberty city
Can’t believe no one mentioned the Vanessa Carlton song as featured in the movie White Chicks. I can’t hear this song without picturing Terry Crews singing along to it like a giddy school girl.
As someone who was actively engaged in combat operations from 2001 to 2015 I can categorically state that we blasted headstrong by trapt on a loop during firefights and contacts. Also I almost died laughing when you mentioned how it could be used in recruiting, although most of us just walked into the recruiting offices humming this shit😂
My name is Cody. Everything you said was true. After a tough loss in Halo or Yugioh I turned to Trapt. Their first and second albums have some solid stuff for the genre.
Trapt are the personification of that kid from middle school who wore one of those beanies with the brim and would try to run up the wall during recess. They might have also worn JNCO jeans depending on when you were in middle school.
I still have two quicksilver beanies with the brim that I bought back in ‘03 and rock them regularly in the winter. Phoenix from Linkin Park turned me on to them when I watched the making of meteora vid that came with the deluxe cd.
CTB called me a cheater by accusing me of rigging the election on his RU-vid community page. What a pathetic delusional snowflake. His music sucks, anyways. If I want to listen to those whose beliefs I disagree with, I'll listen to Dave Mustaine because Megadeth isn't lame poppy butt rock...Risk aside.
@@spddiesel that one track was way overplayed but the record it came out on was really really good actually. I mean I don’t listen to it anymore but for the genre I think they made some great tracks. I listened to that album a lot in 8th grade.
I love that owl city song. My daughter introduced it to me when she was about 7 or 8 and we used to always listen to it together. She just turned 21. The song almost makes me tear up a bit on the rare occasion I hear it. Thank you for not making fun of it, dude. Love your channel
That song irritated me since the first time I heard it. Close second is that Colbie Caleit song. This guy says Christians don’t know who Post Office is, so no way Owl City could know them. I’m not Christian and I have no idea who Post Office is.
Disagree with Finn (imagine that, lol) about the rap into being cringe. I always found it hilarious, especially the pose that Derryck struck at the end.
I just went to Emo Nite LA this past Friday night and they played "Shake It", DJ'd by non other than Trace Cyrus himself. And yes, I can confirm that we did lose our shit.
@@atomicpunk2360 I also had a thought. If Linkin Park ever decides to get back together, I think Deryck is one of the only vocalists with the range and ability to sing Chester’s parts. They could even get back together under a new name and go full-on trap metal. Either way, Deryck would get my vote. Also, I dig Sum41’s more metal direction. They couldn’t stay pop-punk forever.
I was in a band that toured with Trapt for several months. (2014-2015 ish). They played obviously played headstrong on a regular basis and fucked it up almost every time. Also Chris the singer after roughly 30 shows with my band supporting his, still couldn’t recognize us when he saw us before shows. Joke of a band.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Finn, when you say "Cody Energy", I'm reminded of this guy Casey who would do all of that: cry if he lost in the video game, had to be the best in everything, etc.
@@whoami7721 had to be the best but most times was a disappointment 🤣🤣🤣 crazy how no matter what town you moved to, there was always the same type of people. I moved a few times as a kid to different school districts and always the same personalities of kids. I always made friends with the same type of kids. Never fails 😂
Fat Lip is great to this day. The more happy and melodic pop punk seems to do a lot better over time than the darker post hardcore or emo stuff from the middle 00s.
Can totally appreciate that, I was maybe 15/16 when fat lip came out. Bands like sum 41, blink, green day, allister, and also a ton of skate punk bands were so great at the time. Once the emo/screamo thing became a thing I remember just not getting it all and felt totally disconnected
It’s a joint effort between Wes and Fred. Fred is the marketing genus (even though he isn’t that talented music-wise) and Wes was like the secret weapon musician
John Otto is a fantastic drummer. He and Sam Rivers are a tight rhythm section... like listen to "Rearranged." That whole song is anchored by Otto/Rivers/Lethal. Put that beat under any hip-hop track.
Of course Limp Bizkit holds up exactly because its so over the top corny, the talents of Wes, John and Sam cannot be denied, and among all the chad rock on the surface you can actually find a lot of deeper undertones in songs like My Way or Lonely World. My Way in particular is actually such a melancholic song.
LB is one band that has a plethora of bangers that still hold up to this day anyone who says they don’t is lying through there teeth. There a band around the nu metal scene that didn’t wanna be serious and showed music wasn’t all about that they wanted to bring the fun on the rock side of things but what was more awesome is they all did together as friends and had a good time doing what they done
When Fireflies first came out I was in high school and in the middle of my "metal elitist edgelord" phase so I hated the song. After I grew up I realized it's an amazing song and it absolutely holds up to the test of time.
Love seeing Owl City get some love. To me "Ocean Eyes" is a near-perfect synth-pop album that stays in regular rotation to this day. And if you haven't heard his other projects I HIGHLY recommend Port Blue and Color Therapy for a more ambient, but still hopeful soundtrack.
The wrist bands also have a practical use. When playing in my punk band I wore them to reduce friction burns on my forearm due to strumming with poor technique. The guitar I played was a flat top so my forearm would Knick the edge. After an hour of playing that shit would suck. Especially when sweat hits the burn
Had the same issue. I started as a bassist & no matter which one I played (TBird, Fender, Ibanez etc) I always wore a wristband or I'd end up bleeding everywhere and have a massive welt hours later.
I've never really had that problem, but that might be because, when I did play music, I was more of a metal guitarist than a punk guitarist, and the lessons that taught me were always like, "Good metal picking comes from the wrist, not the elbow. You can pick faster, with more control, if you wrist pick." So I've always mostly wrist picked
why?? after the first 100 times of that happening couldn't you just adjust your stroke a little? I know what you are talking about though - telecaster problems😂
Still waiting for you to get to Hey There Delilah (hate) and Face Down (love). I remember that as the turning period for rock music when emo had gotten so mainstream that it was just an aspect of the sound of pop music, and soon "alt rock" radio was no longer recognizable as the genre it had purported to be the prior 15 years.
Oh damn it, I had completely erased that awful Plain White T's song from my memory and now it's stuck in my head! "Face Down" is a good one though, that one holds up and the message of it is incredibly relevant.
I'm only a few minutes in and this is your best commentary yet. The one tree hill bit made me laugh out loud on the bus. I have headphones on and everyone turned around and stared at me
Ah, Vanessa Carlton, Best known for this song, Being Stephen Jenkins from 3EB's rebound after Charlize Theron, And One Tree Hill analogies 20yrs later....
I am 28 years old, work at an office and I would love to pretend that I’m 10 years younger and sing along to ”Shake It” on a Friday-night. You are really spot on. 😂
Just heard Rollin yesterday on my spotify lol. I've never thought limp bizkit was the pinnacle of music, but its just fun music cheese and all. Nostalgia too. Reminds me of riding with my friends in high school with the windows down, feeling like a badass. Its just Nostalgia Finn!
Owl City is just so unique, at that point I've never heard of any music like that with lyrics put together that way. Vanilla Twilight will always be my second favourite song of all time.
That’s funny that you said One Tree Hill was a show that wasn’t edgy. I remember there being a school shooting where a main character dies, a loan shark breaks a teenagers knee caps, and teens getting pregnant while the parents are subject to assassination attempts! Still had cheesy moments but it went buck wild at times.
As much as I love Fat Lip, I actually thought Sum 41 got even better with the metal influences you mentioned, especially on Chuck. For me it made the non-singles stand out more, while having some great pop-punk singles like No Reason, compared to All Killer No Filler where I only listen to 2 songs. Also, is Rollin a bad song? Sure. Is it still fun to listen to? Hell yeah!
The description of We The Kings and Mayday Parade fans is so accurate of my younger self LMAO. I was basically part of the “nerd” social group and knew nothing about scene culture. But at the same time I listened to pop punk and wished I knew how to dress like Avril Lavigne. I had the occasional thing with a skull on it but that’s about it. You even nailed the “likes Fall Out Boy but only knows the singles” I’m amazed at the accuracy
I love Owl City so much and I'm glad you agree. His first few albums are some of my faves when I just need to relax and enjoy the weather and life for a bit. Not to mention, his live shows are also fantastic.
Sum 41's guitarist Dave Brownsound was a metal guy and brought riff diversity into pop punk. You could tell their writing suffered when he left after Chuck.
@@dasenase Look at the album credits instead of saying memes from 5 years ago. Every song written by Noiri and Whibley. If you dont have the album look at ASCAP. There you go son
limp Bizkit are easy to like for a few reasons- nostalgia- catchy- Wes Borland song writing- simplicity- contagious fake confidence- comedic undertones- and weirdly, the unique timbre of Fred Durst’s voice. When I try to truly put my finger on one thing that makes it work I still can’t find it. It’s like how I strongly dislike tomatoes on their own, but love a good chunky salsa 🤷♂️
I remember finding Owlcity back in the day on MySpace as well. I was always bummed that playradioplay disappeared, I wish he toured more/made more music. I saw we the kings open for new found glory at a college in Massachusetts which was kind of a weird duo.
Gotta talk about Trust Company if you ever do a part 2 of this, they’re music is legitimately pretty good even though they’re really only known for the song “Downfall”
I saw her live like ~10 years ago when “rabbits on the run” came out. I’d never really listened to her but obviously knew 1000 miles, and my girlfriend was really into her. Ended up really liking that album and the following one, a lot. Haven’t kept up with her since then or checked out her earlier stuff. 1000 Miles will always remind me of my girlfriend, who passed away several years ago.
You hit me right in the feels with this one. My childhood right there + all of the descriptions you made, I feel them. Also, easy explanation on why people love Limp Bizkit nowadays, despite their music being cringe: It's just pure energy in music form. Simple, dumb, raw and energetic. Sometimes you just need that.
bang on the money with that statement. some music you listen to for entertainment only. LB is one of those bands. you dont really think about the lyrics at all, its just very fun to listen to
@@niToitsyeSkxawng I love music that requires 100% attention to fully enjoy, but no way I'm listening to something like that while running or weightlifting. Same thing with partying.
Aside from Wes I think the biggest thing that makes some Limp Bizkit songs so good is just the infectious energy Fred has. Sure it's corny but I'll be damned if he doesn't sell it.
I wish I lived in a timeline to where 2000s music was the last music we had for a hundred years, and we're just now in the air 2100 discovering where music left off.
Man, Fat Lip truly was a masterpiece. The first time I heard that song when it had just came out I was completely obsessed. I loved blink 182 at the time. And then I know you hate Limp Bizkit man but they were so much. I absolutely love the Bizkit. Wes wrote some incredible riffs and I gotta say, Fred knew what he was doing. I still jam chocolate starfish all the time
I like that you brought up Metros Stations lyrics being weird for their fanbase. I recently gave the album this song was on a listen again and the song 17 forever made me physically uncomfortable. Like yikes my guy maybe don't sing about wanting to be able to finally sleep with your high-school aged girlfriend 🤢🤢
I am super embarrassed by how much I used to LOVE metro station. Hearing them now is making me cringe so hard because not only is the music terrible but you're spot on about the creepy lyrics that went totally over my 14 year old self's head
Haha still love how much you dislike the bizkit. Rollin is a party fun song, it's not meant to be serious. Even Wes Borland is dressed as a parody rapper. Still enjoy your genuine reactions to all of these songs. 100% agree with sum 41
"A thousand miles" got stuck in my head forever, mainly after I've heard Vanilla Sky's cover (Italian pop-punk band who also covered Rihanna's Umbrella and Lady Gaga's Just Dance).
If I recall correctly owl City's name comes from a tree near his parents house that had a large amount of owls living in it. Because of his insomnia Adam would take a walk at night to relax and saw the tree that looked like an "owl city" and he watched them until he was calm then would go home and write music until he fell asleep.
I've never been a Sum 41 fan, but when I saw them open for Motley Crue on the Carnival Of Sins tour, they kicked ass, it was prefect show for an opener and honestly their songs still hold up
Limp Bizkit helped bring rock and roll out of the grunge doldrums where everyone sang about "important, sad issues" it was a breath of fresh air, toxic fratboy masculinity be damned
Fun Fact: Joey Fatone didn't do much of the break dancing scenes because he hurt (or had surgery or something I can't remember) his leg. Nsync used their choreographer had dressed up like Joey to fill in most of the standing/dancing parts for him. This is why Joey is mostly sitting down, his face is blurry, and he is placed in the back. You can watch all about it in the making of the Dirty Pop video.
That comment about being 28 and working an office job hit hard. Was having a great Tuesday until then. I’m away outside to cut the grass that I’m responsible for 😭 love your videos.
I'd say that Rollin' holds up because those of it that might have honestly "rocked out" to it back in the day, probably now embrace it as the magical font of musical cheese that it is.
Really feel you about Owl City. I was in a similarly dark place when the song dropped. Got hooked on Adam Young‘s stuff (especially his Band Skysailing), for it was a nice change of tone compared to all the noisy metal stuff I listened to back then. And even though I don‘t have much love left for christianity, a good song is a good song.
The first time I heard Limp Bizkit was on a demo tape my friend got at a Korn show. That and the subsequent 3 Dollar Bill album blew my mind. Then Significant Other was also awesome but felt a bit more simple with more pop sensibility. By Chocolate Starfish you could feel that they were just dicking around and enjoying their fame but my friends and I didn't care because it was still fun. I have fond memories of going to alternative clubs in the early 2000s, doing the Rollin' arm movement and having a blast being a young idiot. If Rollin doesn't still pump you up then I don't know what to tell you
Fred Durst is cool as fuck he pretty much has a stage persona and actually handles a lot of production behind the scenes and even is involved in signing other artists you cannot hate Fred when you realize this
I was very much done with Fred Durst's vocals by the time Chocolate Starfish came out. But Wes Borland's tone was to fucking die for. John and Sam were a great rhythm section, too.
I said the same when I first heard that album, but I won’t lie … I won’t skip when a song comes up on the playlist from it (unless it’s Rollin, because I cannot look more white than riding around having that play in the background …. noooooo thanks, rather be caught with Achey Breaky Heart at full blast).
I unironically love Shake It! I remember hearing it on the radio when I was around 8 and not really thinking much of it, but nowadays I think it is such a BOP
I think what people love most about LB is Wes, and formally, John. Wes is very much so underrated as a guitar player and if in a different band would get more credit then he gets
Sum 41 is amazing and they're still going strong as ever, heard their new album will be a double album with one half being metal and the other back to their og pop punk style!
"Headstrong by trapt doesn't hold up" I see bad opinion Finn strikes again. Once I get kicked out of basic training, he'll definitely see that I'm headstrong and willing to take on anyone.
Owl City is an amazing artist, he had no boundaries he tried everything from synth pop to screamo, for those who don't know he started a solo project called Blue Dallas. I would love to see Finn have him on his podcast, it would be amazing.
You just can’t wrap your head around the Limp Bizkit thing man. They’re just FUN!! 😂😂 it’s fun, immature music to bang your head to and sing along with. It’s really that simple. Sometimes cheese is just so tasty!
I went to a Killswitch show back in February. While they were setting up for Killswitch's set, they started playing "A Thousands Miles" and at least half the crowd was singing along. The collective voice of the crowd was noticeably deep.
Headstrong is peak early 2000s WWE Pay-per-view theme-core. I wonder where Terry Crews' career would be without 1000 Miles. I hope on your twitch stream you mentioned the historical significance of the Rollin' Music video. That video and the 2001 VMAs with denim suit Britney and Justin were the last gasps of turn of the millennium culture. I've commented on it before, but the movie he directed makes me think Fred was not in on the joke. Check Yes Juliet was a strictly worse version of The Great Escape by Boys Like Girls.
I like Terry Crews in White Chicks, but my man had an established career long before being featured in that movie. You all forget Everybody Hates Chris? He was the dad. Pitched and recorded as he was doing White Chicks. He also had features in Malibu’s Most Wanted (8ball), Soul Plane, Friday After Next (Damon - his most memorable character for me during that era), Starsky & Hutch (Porter), and was pitched for Cheeseburger Eddie in The Longest Yard and President Camacho in Idiocracy before White Chicks officially released due to how well-known he was for being a big buff guy in comedies. Mad respect to the man for getting where he is today through features in black comedies beyond singing a song.
I've met Fred Durst, Wes Borland, John Otto, and DJ Lethal. It was at a hotel they were at for the weekend of a festival they were part of. I got my picture taken with them, and they were all pretty cool for the short time that I talked to any of them. Fred even signed something for me, even though he didn't really want to. He was being kind of secretive about it, and saying he didn't want to sign stuff for everyone.
In 2008, I was in drug rehab…so, not as dark a place as I had been in, but still dark. I wasn’t able to see my wife, kids, or family for 2 years. So, I feel you!