Sonic 2 concept arts and mockups with Simon Wai prototype music (Real, Fake, Theorized songs) 

It’s so bizarre how hidden palace got scrapped when it’s so close to completed

It's actually crazy that they reused some of the sounds for beta death in sonic 3's death

Hidden Palace was originally intended to use what eventually became Mystic Cave's 2P theme, but the decision was later to make it use the unused theme instead. This can be seen even in the final game, where if you force the game to load Hidden Palace with a Game Genie code, the unused theme plays in the background

why is no one talking about how cool the Death Egg concept art is?

I really hope someone will make fanmade Madness Mountain recreation. It looks quite cool, even though it's clearly based off Marble zone from Sonic 1

Hidden palace soundtrack is not mystic caves 2p, confirmed by the composer of the sonic 2 soundtrack and the unused music is the proper music for hidden palace zone

Ocean Wind looks like a beta version of Emerald Coast 😮

3:53 They were gonna use this music for hidden palace, SEGA even confirmed it when they snuck in the level for the Sonic 2 mobile port.

Even if not meant for Sand Shower specfically, I still think Aquatic Ruin was definitely composed for a desert level. You don't put the first half of the Good, Bad, and Ugly riff in there expecting a level made of 50% water.

Its funny how I always thought Sand Shower and Dust Hill Zone were two seperate levels, with DHZ being more like Mirage Saloon from Sonic Mania and SSZ being like Sandopoliz from Sonic and Knuckles. Same thing applies to Secret Jungle and Wood Zone.

Nice video! Nobody has done on the internet something like this about Sonic 2 beta/proto. Btw Like your Sonic content👍! Can't wait for your future content!

According to tcrf, emerald hill 2 player was most likely composed for blue lake/ocean.

hidden palace with unused soundtrack 10 fits way more

3:53 using a game genie cheat to access hidden palace in the final game will take you to a broken level that looks a lot like hidden palace, This makes the unused track 10 a real instead of fake/theory

why is no one talking about the fact that angel island is in the background of ocean wind?! That’s crazy, they were probably planning these stuff for the game.

Goodjob! Really love the concept arts

You're actually wrong with the Mountain Madness one. The Casino 2P song was used for Oil Ocean most of the development until they decided to for some reason use the Sand Shower/Dust Hill music.

0:25 - If anyone out there has the rom hack "Sonic 2 Advanced Edit" (I have releases 3 and 4) the concepts for "Blue Lake Zone" fit together with S2AE's "Crystal Caverns Zone".

This video makes u come back and watch again

Chemical Plant & Genocide City existed alongside each other they're not the same stage. It was shown in the maps from the time travel version of Sonic 2 that both locations were separate places.

hidden palace would have used the unused track 10 since this was supposed to be a bonus zone when you get all the chaos emeralds

The cool thing is that they used the idea of Dust Hill in forces. No, not Sand Shower. That's the other desert level.

HIDDEN PALACE HAVE HIS OWN MUSIC!

Melody number 10 is the real Hidden Palace melody. When starting a zone using codes game gine we see the logo of this particular zone and hear track 10, also, the location of the rings coincides with the structure of the level.

Wood zone was supposed to use the emerald hill 2p song, but didn't in.the game because of an error

While I agree that the Sand Ocean music theme was Oil Ocean's final theme, I think the mock-up was for Dust Hill, and the Aquatic Ruins theme would have been the Dust Hill theme. I'm not sure if there's any actual art for what would have been Sand Shower.

Not so sure about 9:00, aquatic ruin theme prob was the one intended for Sand Shower (it even has that wild west melody in the beginning of the melody) but later with many tracks were remade to fit new zones

Since the original game was partially inspired by the 8-Bit Version of Sonic 1 it isn't unlikely that Green Hill was indeed another version of the zone before it was heavily changed into Emerald Hill in latter development. Ocean Wind was inspired by Bridge Zone and might have served as the inspiration for Emerald Coast. Woods/Secret Jungle/Wood was inspired by Jungle Zone and it seems that it would have segments inside of its trees and maybe rivers as well, the idea for this zone gave birth to Mushroom Hill. Sand Shower was the first original level that we would encounter and it would have been the actual first desert-themed level of the Sonic series before its sucessor Sandopolis took its place. The difficulty of Metropolis was probably drastically changed for the last version of the zone. There is a submerged version of the Ancient Time that isn't talked a lot in which other versions of Hill Top and Blue Lake would have been featured, this version of Hill Top might would have acid lakes replacing the lava from the original while Blue Lake of this timeline might would have been the Blue Ocean concept art since it seems that the zone would take place completely underwater which makes sense for how the island looks on this timeline. Tropical Summer is probably the Tropical Sun concept art and it might have served as the inspiration for Angel Island Zone in Sonic 3. It's possible that Olympus and Hidden Palace are connected with one another for the story of the game rather than the latter being a sucessor to the other. Tropical Plant might would have had a S3 Launch Base-like appearance. Maybe Sonic 3's Azure Lake is how the original Blue Lake would have looked like. I don't know what or how Rock World would have looked like, some believe that the one in the Ancient Time is Winter Zone while the other in the Ruined Present Time is either Mystic Cave or Hidden Palace. Speaking of the Ruined Present Time, that is where Dust Hill appears over Green Hill on the map, I think that Dust Hill is actually Aquatic Ruin instead of Mystic Cave since it would put more sense as to why the zone was called Neo Green Hill at one point. Oil Ocean was going to be like a Bad Future version of Ocean Wind. There is no doubt that Madness Mountain was a zone planned for the Medieval Era and in addition I personally think that Winter Zone and Emerald Isle also would have been part of this era as well, with Winter Zone taking the place of Sand Shower and Emerald Isle being this era's version of Aquatic Ruin. I have no idea how the two Genocide Cities would have played out but I suspect they would have used the indoor and outdoor concept of Scrap Brain while also using anti-gravity concepts which we saw on the Death Egg in Sonic & Knuckles, speaking of the Death Egg as you can see by that concept art it was originally planned to be a long zone instead of just a boss room one. Another thing worthy of commenting about is how Sonic looks in that concept art, do you think that S2 Death Egg would have a special mechanic feature that would affect Sonic's physics due to him being in space and thus making it more difficult for us to move him around the zone?, cause I think it is possible since this would have been the first space-themed level in the series. Regarding Chemical Plant and Casino Night, they probably had their difficulty decreased for the final versions. The "Last Battle in Space" most likely would have Sky Chase and Wing Fortress playing the same role as they did in the final game.

7:24 I dont know why, but Ocean Wind looks almost like Wave Ocean from Sonic 06.

Sky Chase and Aquatic Ruins do have pretty wintery and western sounding themes

The theme for Wood Zone was supposed to be Emerald Hill 2P but a programmer made a typo, resulting in the level playing Metropolis Zone's theme.

Unused Track 10 really fits the vibe of Madness Mountain. Seeing how there is a little drawbridge in the concept art, and the music is medieval sounding (in my opinion), I feel like that this track belongs in Madness Mountain.

Here's what i think fits well (stage = music) Blue lake = MCZ2P Genocide/Cyber City = CPZ Death Egg = same as final Emerald Isle = ARZ Emerald/Green Hill = same as final Hidden Palace = MCZ2P (i believe the rumored cutscene would use track 10) Metropolis = stays the same Madness Mountain = (Can't decide if track 10 or Casino Night 2P but it's a 70/30) Ocean Wind = Emerald/Green hill 1P Sand Shower = OOZ (Snowy) Winter = SCZ Special Stage = stays the same Tropical Plant/Sun = Emerald/Green Hill 2P Wood = Metropolis

I think there needs to be new music since lots of the music is already in zones

What I like to think is ocean wind and tropical plant/sun is on Christmas Island. It’s so close to South Island and isn’t that big, and have a very coastal environment.

It would be nice if you provided sources for anything. Like why unused track #10 is fake/theory for Hidden Palace. Or why Emerald Hill 2P is fake for Snowy Zone (who would even think that anyways). Also, adding in the special stage concept was pointless because A) the concept looks almost identical to what we got in the game and B) there's only one track that fits with the special stage concept, and that's the special stage music.

Genocide city is wild💀

It seems that olympus and blue lake zone are meant to be the same zone and in the final version we basically see them combined as the above and below water areas in aquatic ruin. We also see something more like olympus in sonic 3.

the sonic monitor under blue lake is actually a sonic monitor in hidden palace zone

i love these old songs

3:54 i dont think thats the scrapped one, but its better

Didn't Madness Mountain use the Mystic Cave P1 theme? I thought it was said to originally be composed for a haunted house level?

Madness Mountain was somewhat confirmed to have been an earlier version of Mystic Cave. The composer said that he composed Mystic Cave's theme for a haunted house level, and one of the devs said that Mystic Cave was going to be a haunted house level.

Wouldn't Emerald Isle Zone just... be Aquatic Ruin Zone with an early name? They look virtually identical comparing the final zone to the concept art, I mean it's not hard to believe considering Palmtree Panic used to be Salad Plain Zone

Hidden palace is true. It’s labeled as such in the Masa’s demo (Masato Nakomura)

7:24 Is that?, Ángel island in the background?

4:10its real hidden palace

sand shower was supposed to have the music from aquatic ruin. becuase if you listen closely you ca hear very western sounding melodies

Sand Shower is real and the image is from a concept and wood zone is clearly out there already from stuff we already have.

None of them are confirmed intended musics yet

Hidden Palace zone isn't Mystic cave zone 2p

04:44 Metropolis in the GameBoy Advance version of Sonic 2

funny that the song for metropolis was gonna be used for a wood zone, since it needa to destroy a wood zone to put a metropolis zone

Past| *proto zone(hidden palace beta but survived in phone)* *emerald isle(survived)* *cyber city(found!!!)* *green hill(survived for unused content)* genocide *Death egg(survived)* wood zone(metropolis) madness mountain *ocean wind(that angel islands behind)* sandshower snowy Winter Sonic 1 Special stage tropical plant sun *metropolis(survived)* blue lake *hidden palace(survived into phone or origins)* *rock zone(dead level )* now| Aquatic Ruin Zone Casino Night Zone Chemical Plant Zone Metropolis Zone Mystic Cave Zone Oil Ocean Zone Death Egg Zone Emerald Hill Zone Hill Top Zone Wing Fortress Zone Sky Chase Zone Hidden Palace Zone Green Hill Zone (unused content) Special Stage Cheats for unused levels are not scrapped for final game Hidden palace ACLA-ATD4 wood zone FFFE10:0200 Emerald isle FFFE10:0160

Av are you sure sky chase zone’s soundtrack was created for a winter level?

Can someone comment with the snowy concept art image?

0:57 i think the music for mystic cave would go pretty well with cyber city, especially if you listen to the masa's demo version where the main instrument sounds like a siren

Okay if Sonic Mania 2 ever happens, they GOTTA put Ocean Wind in there, it looks so cool

Mystic cave not originally planned, "dust hill zone" is - early version of aquatic ruin zone. This is - second desert zone, which is - completly different from sand shower. When they decine to remove some zones - they hybrid emerald isle and dust hill into 1 level, and were got "neo green hill". They did it because they didnt have engouh time, top part of level is a - dust hill zone. Bottom is a - emerald isle zone. Now about your theory about madness mountain music, its - false. Real music of madness mountain is a - mystic cave zone. Casino night 2 player is a - original oil ocean theme. Hill top is a - original hill top theme. Id 10 is a - cutscene theme. Also you called ice level "winter zone", in fact: real name of "winter zone" is a - "rock world zone". Because at concept arts rock world is a - past of sand shower. Also were have concept art that shown that - past of "desert" is an "ice". You said that metropolis zone theme is - wood zone music. This is - false. Wood zone didnt got its own theme, music slot got unchanged from sonic 1.

Anyone else feel like Sonic Team used Ocean Wind as inspiration for Wave Ocean, or is it just a coincidence?

1:35 False, When genocide city aint renamed, it theme song was chemical plant, then it was renamed to cyber city, and music was reselected to casino night 2P

We do not know what Madness Mountain's theme sounds like (I'll stick with Casino Night 2P Music) Ocean Wind was not going to use Emerald Hill's music (i will stick with unused track 10 for it) Wood Zone was not going to use Metropolis music, as Wood Zone in future, infact, is Casino Night (it was going to use Casino Night 1P Music) Cyber City was not going to use Chemical Plant Music and we do not know what music belongs to Cyber City (infact, i think they would use Marble Zone music) Hidden Palace Zone also uses Spring Yard Zone music, infact, it is **technically** the first theme for it.

7:52 I think so much about that, so Oil Ocean song was originally (dust hill, sand shower, desert dazzle, mirage saloon how the heck is called), was intended to be the desert level, so Oil Ocean have a different song or what?

Its strange hearing this songs now knowing were they came from could u imagine if the zones never existed and we got the cut zones songs instead u would say that song is from chemical plant etc i wish they got the old team remade sonic 2 or added it in origins so that the player could hace a taste what sonic 2 was like before it was cut

0:57 genocide city was going to replace act 3 of metropolis

Emerald Hill theme was, in one demo, Star Light's music

3:53 is actually real in s2 2013 remake (mobile) a zone that called proto palace zone this how to do it 1 pick no save mode, press S,E,G,A you should hearing a ring sound 2 in title screen use your two finger to sonic & tails 3 you should be in the level select use code for debug mode, 1,9,9,2,1,1,2,4 and you should hear a ring sound again 4 final code to the "Proto palace zone" 3,3,3,B,10,10,10,4 you should hear ring sound again 5 pick hidden palace zone done now your in "Proto Palace Zone"

Unused Track 10 is not fake bc in the beta of sonic 2 (Simon Wai) it used that track

Metropolis theme doesn’t really fit Wood Zone in my opinion. I always thought Emerald Hill 2P’s theme was more fitting. Same with Sand Shower having Aquatic Ruin’s theme.

Cool when some levels of classic sonic recycled in mania Probably: Dust hill = mirage saloon Sand shower = Sandopolis (Snowy) Winter zone = Press garden

The nome death egg is a perfect nome.

8:59 well, it can't be false or true because Dust Hill and the present are modified by Dr Eggman which is Emerald Hill and the sand shower and the stage that is in the present, but I don't think the sand shower would have a mechanic that modifies the desert for snow, but in the medieval era, the sand shower which is called rock wold and the normal climate, but in the past it was more nervous, which makes perfect sense considering the ice age which, but in the present, does not It's ruined by Dr Eggman, it's desert!

Hidden palace it is its own zone when you collected all 7 chaos emeralds at the end of the game it would take you to hidden palace and then you would of have super sonic

If you put in 03, 03, 03, 0B, 10, 10, 10 and 04 and select Hidden Palace Zone, it will be changed to Proto Palace Zone (Mobile only)

3:30 Fake hidden palace sound 😢 This is not real hidden palace sound. In mobile sonic 2 have the code to acess the proto palace the sonic 2 mega drive hidden palace.

I don't think this guy did too much research.

04:44 METROPOLIS Metropolis Metropolis

Madness Mountain Looks Like Marble😮

Also for sand shower actually just copy the oil ocean cuase there a video a guy made a video with sonic 2 it was sand shower but the music is a copy ver of the oil ocean zone so probbly a zone order I did not look zone order for s2 beta however the song kind fit also if im band english it's because I'm indo

the Madmes Mountain his hill top But his video are theory Idk why Here 2P sound of hidde palace 2P is fake The beta/prototype, is a real of 1992 Sonic was in american/japan

The thing is you know those level those are the one that you can time travel not original level

i have a theory that tropical sun and emerald isle became aquatic ruin

The winter level concept art was repurposed or solely made for Ice Cap in Sonic 3.

Metropolis Zone Real Track: Metropolis No shit.

Estaría genial si alguien programador haga los niveles no usados menos los que están en long versión y ahy nacirian Sonic 2 episode 2(SMS)Sonic 2 episodio 3(Sonic 2 long versión)Sonic 2 episodio 4(estas zonas)

Death egg is like ring sound

Sand shower zone music is just a theory

Death egg- 100 rings theme

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how is unused track 10 fake or theory when it plays in the simon wai prototype...??

Proto palace theory Song is the true song😊

The deth egg zone beta should been the same

where did you get the information for half of these "real" claims lmao

I imagine it would go something like this Emerald Hill stays the same Ocean Wind (EHZ 2P Music) Woods (MCZ 2P Music) Sand Shower (OOZ Music) Metropolis stays the same Aquatic Ruin and Hill Top stay the same Hidden Palace (Unused Track 10) Rock World (SCZ Music) Oil Ocean (CNZ 2P Music) Mystic Cave stays the same Chemical Plant and Casino Night stay the same Cyber City (DEZ Music) Death Egg (WFZ Music) I didnt include Tropical Sun because i believe that it was scrapped so early in development that it either never had music or its music was repurposed for another zone Also I didnt include blue ocean or madness mountain because i think that blue ocean is just an early name for hidden palace, and madness mountain is an early version of mystic cave.

You claim certain OST assignments as "fake" and "real", yet you neglect to explain your reasoning behind these assertions. I am very curious, why do you assign the tracks that you do so confidently? I too am quite curious about the early development of Sonic 2, but I feel that theories need evidence to back them up.

9:28 Never saw this image before.

Emerald isle is old name for aquatic ruin

Metropolis zone should have been scrapped

0:56 what, was chemical plant song?

la verdad es que el track 10 si es la de Hidden palace