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Hey remember how Sonic actually sucks in terms of representation of his character in smash? What would happen if a person actually... fixed that?
What is Moveset Mods?
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Moveset Mods is a series where I take an established Super Smash Bros character, and retool their entire moveset to make them more character faithful, completely disregarding competitive viability.
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@sleepydeeznuts
@sleepydeeznuts 3 года назад
2000’s sonic: “every world has to have an end, that’s why we gotta live to the fullest, at least that’s what I think” 2010- sonic: “baldy mc nose hair, that’s the best thing I’ve heard all day”
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 года назад
Current sonic:"Haha super dimensional god go down because piss rock"
@CCConnor7
@CCConnor7 3 года назад
@Nathan Hey
@driveasandwich6734
@driveasandwich6734 2 года назад
@@ahmadkazan7994 Most Sonics defeat gods with rocks
@FixTheWi-Fi
@FixTheWi-Fi 3 года назад
Having the Down Special remain the Spin Dash makes sense, it's probably Sonic's most iconic move. Though I'd give it the properties of the former Side Special's version instead.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
That’s in interesting interpretation- I wanted to do the down special interpretation because of the source material, also I think it’s just neat haha
@FixTheWi-Fi
@FixTheWi-Fi 2 года назад
@@Ace.73 ....nope, the Spin Dash is when he curls up into a ball, charges up for a sec, then bursts forward as a ball of speed. When he goes into a ball while he's running that's just... rolling...
@dirrothepokefan5542
@dirrothepokefan5542 3 года назад
Final smash is cutscene. Sonic jumps on the enemy and cutscene starts. Sonic transform into Super Sonic. He flies into space, where he quickly destroys Death Egg, and Death Egg falls on the enemy.
@viciosgamer6930
@viciosgamer6930 3 года назад
HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY LIKES THATS ONE OF THE BEST FINAL SMASH IDEAS
@dirrothepokefan5542
@dirrothepokefan5542 3 года назад
@@viciosgamer6930 thanks
@justasonicthehedgehogfan562
@justasonicthehedgehogfan562 3 года назад
Eggman: No way,I can't believe this!!!
@TheOneWhoAsked777
@TheOneWhoAsked777 3 года назад
There had been a change in my moveset in the comments! I changed the final smash a little bit
@gavindavis4508
@gavindavis4508 3 года назад
DEATH EGGAH DAH
@plasmaadmin
@plasmaadmin 3 года назад
justice for my boy Nameless Figure #3
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
✊😔
@adamvalentim4749
@adamvalentim4749 3 года назад
The Final Smash could be the Team Blast from Sonic Heroes of Team Sonic
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
oooh thats an idea I haven't thought about
@justyouraveragegamer4033
@justyouraveragegamer4033 3 года назад
No it should stay Super Sonic it's way more iconic and what's Sonic without his super form it just wouldn't because it's been a staple in every game and having Sonic without the super form as a final smash is just weird
@Glenroy64
@Glenroy64 3 года назад
@@justyouraveragegamer4033 Or It could be The Team Blast from when super sonic,super tails, and hyper knuckles was fighting metal overlord
@justyouraveragegamer4033
@justyouraveragegamer4033 3 года назад
@@Glenroy64 my personal opinion I would have it he transforms into Super Sonic dashes around and hits the opponent for a bit and he finishes off with Hyper Sonic because we need Hyper Sonic back #bringHyperSonicback
@Glenroy64
@Glenroy64 3 года назад
@@justyouraveragegamer4033 Good Point
@shibathesamurai9893
@shibathesamurai9893 3 года назад
Finally. Someone who actually talks about Spin Charge. Everyone keeps bringing up Spin Dash being a problem and never even begin to think about how hardly anyone uses Spin Charge.
@winterv.4715
@winterv.4715 3 года назад
I think the boost should be side b and could be meter based. It’ll start out empty and the only way it can be charged up is through sonic landing attacks on his opponents. Once it’s full, press side b to do a powerful charge attack similar to banjo’s wonderwing except not invincible. This will encourage sonic players to play more aggressively and it’ll look more visually interesting. Also, it might reduce the hate towards sonic mains from “I want to burn your house down” to “I don’t like you” lol.
@100organicfreshmemes5
@100organicfreshmemes5 Год назад
I like the idea of boost being a meter-based move but rather than a kill move I'd prefer it be a movement option and combo starter/extender. The meter could work like it does in the Rush games, where it fills by hitting the opponent with normals and getting hit or using Boost drains it. If you fill the meter completely it enters Overcharge, granting unlimited Boost for 5 or so seconds represented by the ring with a star in it at the end of the meter spinning. You can refresh the duration by hitting the opponent, but if you get hit or don't hit the opponent for too long it empties to 1/3 of the meter.
@Kafonn
@Kafonn 3 года назад
I'm into this moveset, I like it a lot. I wouldve changed a few things, but I'll leave that for my own take on this. Amazing moveset, if this was in the real smash games I'd have no complaints with Sonics moveset.
@cabbage8858
@cabbage8858 3 года назад
2:35 THE SICK TRANSITION WAS AMAZING
@BazTheDryBonesFan
@BazTheDryBonesFan 3 года назад
Well, this was a good way to end off the series! Cool moves, funny gags, good art, the full package! I’ll miss this series, but it was fun while it lasted! Ew, it’s the bush pig.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
thanks- I appreciate that. Moveset Mods was a fine series, but all things much come to an end
@hasthehighground8560
@hasthehighground8560 3 года назад
Toxiquid why end it? There are so many smash characters that need better movesets
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Has the High Ground simply put, I got tired. I lost passion for this series, and I don’t want to run it into the ground
@orangeslash1667
@orangeslash1667 2 года назад
@@toxiquid The difference between the two spin dashes is that Spin dash goes through the enemy and Spin Charge tackles the enemy.
@christophergyamfi7550
@christophergyamfi7550 3 года назад
Hey we both were on the same page of making The Boost the Dash Attack, The Blue Tornado the Up Throw and the Light Speed Dash the Side Special. However I’d make the Light Speed Dash more like PAC-MAN’s Side Special, where he zips across a trail of rings. Also I know you wanted to avoid as many ball moves as possible but I’d personally make the Insta Shield (Sonic 3 and Knuckles) the Neutral Air and the Bounce Bracelet (Sonic Adventure 2) the Down Air. Great Video!
@thedman1754
@thedman1754 2 года назад
Yeah i made the up special the blue tornado too
@christophergyamfi7550
@christophergyamfi7550 2 года назад
@@thedman1754 I actually made it the Up Throw not Up Special, but that’s a nice option too.
@piakirei28
@piakirei28 3 года назад
The final smash would be “Final Battle,” based on the final battle in the 2020 Sonic Movie.
@SIRRapBattles
@SIRRapBattles 3 года назад
I love how you pulled moves from Sonic Fighters, which seems to be a popular choice for moveset inspiration in Smash fan games. This video was a greatly enjoyable watch; the silky smooth editing, concision, interesting moveset ideas and light hearted humour packaged into one 7 minute video all contribute to yet again another fantastic product. I look forward with gleaming eyes to see where you'll take your channel next, and know that I'll happily be a part of that journey. Sonic's love for Amy is temporary, pancakes are eternal.
@NIDER3
@NIDER3 2 года назад
"a lot of kick moves" Well, Sonic's fighting style is based on Taekwondo and Break Dancing
@SpiderGamerXxx
@SpiderGamerXxx 2 года назад
capoeira or however that's spelled-
@pablojimenez2392
@pablojimenez2392 3 года назад
Remember how shiek can charge her blades, Sonic could do that with the light speed dash (which he does in the adventure games) if he misses he’s exposed to an attack but if it hits sonic makes a 3 hit combo that goes insanely fast through the stage, although it won’t do much damage to not make it broken
@mixmastermonty3427
@mixmastermonty3427 3 года назад
It would have been cool to see some of the wisps or power up monitors be used in his move set, but this is awesome!
@bombs2848
@bombs2848 3 года назад
I personally think you should keep his f smash as the wind up punch from sonic the fighters, also it would be cool if his Nair was changed to the insta-shield. I also think d smash would work better as the sonic flare from sonic Battle, besides that I like this moveset
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
that's a cool idea as well
@bombs2848
@bombs2848 3 года назад
@@toxiquid Thx
@bigtony5632
@bigtony5632 3 года назад
Don’t forget about the taunts!!!! Love his brawl ones.
@TomTheyy
@TomTheyy 2 года назад
1:18 The Captain Falcon move that Sonic's Up Tilt comes from didn't exist until Melee, so it's less likely it came from 64's prototype characters, at least.
@Max-Rtpmp
@Max-Rtpmp 3 года назад
It might be the best set of normals and aerial attacks I've seen for him
@andrewjelen1810
@andrewjelen1810 2 года назад
His Final Smash could be still Super Sonic but even more souped up and a cinematic to boot. Once he gains the Chaos Emeralds and transforms into Super Sonic, he tackles straight into his victim for a cinematic Final Smash. He quickly rams into his trapped foe as a ball multiple times before charging downward for one explosive final hit with Tails and Knuckles following.
@WrongJoke06
@WrongJoke06 3 года назад
I think the boost would've worked better as the side special so sonic could have a unique gimmick Side Special: It would work just like how it does in the games, sonic would have a gauge that represents how much boost energy he has. If sonic runs out off boost he will just do a small dash that has almost no speed but decent knockback and damage to make up for its pitiful range. If sonic fills up the gauge to the maximum (the maximum being filling up the bar 3 times) he will have unlimited boost energy so long as he's not hit. This unlimited boost mechanic comes from Sonic Rush. Dash Attack: It will Refference dash attack from smash 4 (he rolls on the floor forwards then uncurls to kick the enemy)
@100organicfreshmemes5
@100organicfreshmemes5 Год назад
I get that you want to avoid ball moves, but I think his n-air would actually be best as a reference to the classic games. It could be similar to the current n-air, but in exchange for starting a frame or two slower the first few frames have a larger, disjointed hitbox courtesy of the Instashield. This would reward good timing in air-to-air exchanges and reference a very useful move sonic has had since the early days. Also, that new u-air would just look silly, it's pretty much just a vertical version of his f-air. His current n-air is a bit weird but still more fitting IMO.
@natwentalie2098
@natwentalie2098 3 года назад
P A N C A K E ! Great video as always Tox! Looking forward to the changes you wanna make for your channel!
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Wrong video, Nat that’s the wrong phrase
@natwentalie2098
@natwentalie2098 3 года назад
Toxiquid But you said I could say pancake agaaaaaain
@mr.kingkayyy7401
@mr.kingkayyy7401 2 года назад
His final Smash could be Super Sonic but it would be a cinematic with quick a time event where each correct input slightly increases the knock back. like in the final boss of Unleashed where Sonic save chip from dark gaia.
@metaknightjudgesyoursins4710
I had the craziest idea for Sonic’s final smash to where Sonic turns Super but… he calls in some help. This’ll be a cinematic final smash to where Sonic knocks a person into a Giant Ring (bares more resemblance to the one from Sonic Mania), and with that, the cinematic plays out, utilizing all of Sonic’s classic friends to go and wallop the enemy for a bit! Firstly, Tails comes in and whacks them back by spinning with his tails! Then, Amy proceeds to slam her hammer on the ground to put the enemy deep in the pavement It is then followed by, Knuckles winding up for a punch and unleashing his fists of fury upon the foe, sending them flying Finally, while the foe is flying back, Sonic (in his Super Form) catches up to them, and unleashes one full powered boost to bounce them into the blast-zone at Super Sonic Speed! Ending the Cinematic..
@shurikenthedude7021
@shurikenthedude7021 3 года назад
eew its the bush pig and also goodbye moveset mods we will miss you
@mcqueenspartyisinhell2013
@mcqueenspartyisinhell2013 3 года назад
I would add to the dash attack, if you keep pressing the A button you will keep on boosting until you ran out of boost
@nintenjoe6418
@nintenjoe6418 3 года назад
This series is exactly what I’ve been looking for but it’s finished 💔
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
im so sorry my guy-- i just lost interest in the series, and wanted to move onto variety content
@camgoodkicks
@camgoodkicks Год назад
YOOOO THE BOOST FOR THE DASH IS GENIUS!
@thememer3813
@thememer3813 3 года назад
Though I do like the ball, I enjoy seeing this moveset mod.
@shadicTPZ
@shadicTPZ 3 года назад
I'd keep the Wind-Up Punch for his side smash, as while it's weird, you kind of need that weirdness for at least one of his moves.
@AakaNacho
@AakaNacho Год назад
For Sonics final smash, I think it should’ve been more cutscene-esc. He would start the animation with the startup run position he has in sonic colors, then dash at them with blinding speed much like King K Rools. Then he uses the emeralds to transform, then flies through his opponent back and fourth, each one speeding up the more times he flies through his opponent. Then, after around 20 hits (make it that fast), he does a roundhouse kick that sends them spiraling into the blast zone.
@speedthehedgehog7881
@speedthehedgehog7881 3 года назад
I think that when Sonic is done with his final smash he will release a powerful blast wich would obliterate the closest opponent. The others will take damage but not as much as the closest one
@willcortes810
@willcortes810 3 года назад
If someday you resume this series, I'd love to see moveset mods of Luigi, Ganondorf, Link (botw), Bowser and more!
@GameGuyBenn
@GameGuyBenn 3 года назад
I’m thinking of having D-tilt the sweeping kick from 06, so dash attack can be slide. Also, D-Smash would be Sonic Flare, also from Sonic Battle.
@GB6__YT
@GB6__YT 3 года назад
Why is this the last? I don’t understand why you would end it, it is so good!!!
@beatziegraham6928
@beatziegraham6928 3 года назад
If we HAD to axe Super Sonic as the final smash, I would use Excalibur Sonic. He would use his finisher move at the end of the final boss. Where he stabs straight through the opponents.
@Hevil666
@Hevil666 3 года назад
I thought that the side special, can be similar to what Banjo has, since it puts a limiter to how much he can use it. That way it can pay tribute to the modern games, since it also has a speed boost meter in the current games, not that there isn’t any but it would drive it even further.
@MelohRush
@MelohRush 3 года назад
the final smash could be a reference to his final attack on eggman in the sonic movie while also keeping the super sonic transformation. He transforms, rushes forward, and if he hits anyone, they are attacked with a barrage of impacts from super sonic ending with a final spin dash through the warp ring back to stage
@marcotanooky9651
@marcotanooky9651 3 года назад
Honestly I feel that a extra ball would be ok if it is the insta shield from Sonic 3 as a Nair
@nicolaspierrevil7297
@nicolaspierrevil7297 3 года назад
this is da coolest moveset for sonic i've never see
@maxi.taxi.
@maxi.taxi. 2 года назад
The things that I would change for sonic Jab: Punch Reverse and then a rapid jab. Sonic’s known to be the fastest thing alive so I think it would be very suiting for him to have one. Up tilt: Lucario’s up tilt Down tilt: The sweep attack from sonic unleashed Down Air: Bounce Attack from Sonic Adventure 2 Up throw: Same thing in smash Recovery: Sonic Tornado Down Special: Spin Dash Forward Smash: Meteor Smash from Sonic X Down Smash: Match Speed FINAL SMASH: Sonic transforms into Super Sonic. While transforming if any player gets hit by the chaos emeralds they get stunned and see Sonic transformed into super sonic after that, they get a cutscene of them in space. Sonic then zooms right at them so many times they explode. Right at the end of the cutscene, Because Sonic zoomed right at them so many times and the opponent exploded, the explosion creates the name SONIC
@teaoftraffic
@teaoftraffic 3 месяца назад
I think it would be interesting to have Sonic’s Final Smash be replaced with a new one I like to call… *Werehog Rampage!* This is a cutscene final smash where Sonic transforms into his Werehog form from Sonic Unleashed, then uses his stretchy arms to grab an opponent. Once he grabs someone, he’ll then VICIOUSLY beats them up, using various moves from the source game before throwing said opponent like how he did to Eggman in the Egg Dragoon fight, letting out a loud howl as the opponent blasts off again. If the opponent reaches at least 100% during the attack, it’s a guaranteed star KO. Otherwise it launches opponents diagonally upward away from Sonic. I know Super Sonic is more iconic, but I want my Unleashed representation okay (also his current final smash can’t even ko people on most stages due to it being so weak)
@Cerulean_Sunset
@Cerulean_Sunset 3 года назад
I will say that the current Dtilt at lest comes from somewhere, that being Sonic 06. If anything I'd reserve the slide for dash attack and maybe make boost side special. But that's just my input. I like what you did with Sonic!
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Lorulian thanks, my guy- slide was honestly one of the only moves that made sense to me, as there are characters like Dedede and the Belmonts who get some distance with the dtilt
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 2 года назад
i take this back. cringe and unbased :)
@thecakeisalie4444
@thecakeisalie4444 3 года назад
If I had a dollar for every time you had the same as me idea as me I would have 5 dollars Good job! can't wait to see how the new direction will go
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
great minds think alike haha
@jesse1794
@jesse1794 3 года назад
Sonic's final smash should be pretty much the same as pikachus but with super sonic, and it ends with a round house kick
@maxi.taxi.
@maxi.taxi. 2 года назад
I really thought this was a fun video and something I watch when I’m in a negative mood
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 2 года назад
I’m glad my videos can cheer you up!
@nelmasster
@nelmasster 3 года назад
My ideas: *Down Tilt:* Same, the sliding attack. *Up Smash:* Same, a somersault kick. *Down Throw:* A single slam instead of rolling over the opponent, similar to the Bounce Attack from Sonic Adventure 2. *Neutral Air:* A spinning kick like Samus' NAir since Smash 4. *Down B:* The Sonic Eagle. It would work like Sheik's Dolphin Bounce or ZS Samus' Flip Jump, with a meteor effect. Sonic's Final Smash in Ultimate is okay, but...a good choice for a new Final Smash would be a Team Blast from Sonic Heroes. Not the standard one, the Team Blast performed against Metal Overlord (the true final boss of this game).
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 года назад
Ideas i would replqce:up tilt would be up draft and up smash would be him using both legs not one. Dash attack:sonic advance 2 forward R after spring similar to didy's. Up air:same but faster.
@magmosi4447
@magmosi4447 4 месяца назад
I feel like, if for some reason Super Sonic was unusable, Sonic Wind could be a good alternative, kicking up a massive tornado that sucks in any player close enough to it, dealing damage for the duration of the smash before launching them away as the smash ends
@minerpig04
@minerpig04 3 года назад
I think the nair is fine as it is because it does have a reference that i think is substantial enough to pass, being the insta shield in S3&K. As far as the rest goes, i think the complaints would change from "too much ball" to "too much kick". Nonetheless good vid bro have some choccy milk cuz u epic
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Ay yo choccy milk?! Would you also like some?
@randomistough0
@randomistough0 Год назад
ok i know you tried using as little ball attacks as possible but i think everyone agrees that sonic's neutral air and dash attacks should be balls. they just make sense and are very faithful to how sonic works in his original games
@wishbushwashbosh6443
@wishbushwashbosh6443 2 года назад
Honestly, I think the spin dash and the homing attack should both be the neutral B. Sonic never spin-dashes in air. The spin-dash has always been a thing you can only do on the ground. I would like this change because it makes sonic less campy and would be more accurate to how to spin dash functions. The homing attack would be neutral B in the air. While the homing attack and spin dash aren’t the same buttons in the adventure series, it would still carry over the core idea of both moves as they share the same button.
@maziu_0168
@maziu_0168 3 года назад
I think that one of the fighters of smash who need a remake of his moveset is link , because there is a lot of potencial that has been wasted from Zelda BOTW. That is my suggest for the next video 😁
@ryanwebb309
@ryanwebb309 3 года назад
It'll happen one day; Sakurai changing Sonic's moveset. Wonder why they haven't already?
@SpiderGamerXxx
@SpiderGamerXxx 2 года назад
I have a small little idea for his moveset: Jab and tilts stay the same but down tilt instead becomes a slide Forward smash stays the same Down smash changes to Sonic flare Up smash becomes Sonic Updraft Dash attack changes to Sonic Windmill Aerial attacks stay the same besides forward air but the change to it should be obvious enough lmao I think there's really nothing to be changed in his grabs Neutral special doesn't change but it's instead instant Down special stays the same on the ground but you can stay in spindash as long as you remain grounded and you can't shift directions But his down special in the air sends him to the ground until he hits something and bounces Side special on the ground is the boost, it has a sweet spot at the start and his aerial version is a light dash that has a sweet spot at the end Up special changes to the ring throw from Sonic battle but you can throw through multiple directions Final smash lets him turn to Super Sonic but instead he just flies all over the screen instead of left and right
@Lemench957
@Lemench957 3 года назад
Suggestions: Fo the Down Tilt it's the same concept but instead of crushing his opponent, he crushes his opponent by drilling then in the ground with the drill wisp from Sonic Colors. The back throw-Sonic would kick his victim in a Warp ring then the warp ring would teleport his victim flying behind him.
@bandanan-zthatbandanaweari1121
@bandanan-zthatbandanaweari1121 3 года назад
This is an interesting idea that I only seen on this channel and the duke of bros. I can’t wait for the Knight dlc video and more series’s to come, and also... Dirty socks that been shove up a roadkill skunk ass... that my weird/funny comment.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
that certainly was an interesting comment haha
@ayefu
@ayefu 3 года назад
Why did I just now get notified of this
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
because youtube hates me haha
@dungeontortoise2432
@dungeontortoise2432 3 года назад
I think all of Sonic’s moves should use ball.png: -Up smash stays the same -Down smash returns from brawl -Side smash is the fire somersault from SA2 and has great kill power -Neutral special, side special and down special stay the same -Up special sees Sonic double jump with a small electric field that reflects projectiles similar to the lightning shield power up in sonic 3 -Nair is the insta shield from Sonic 3 and grants a small window of invincibility -Dair is a downward slamming bounce attack adapted from SA2 and the bubble shield power up in Sonic 3 -Fair causes Sonic to rapidly dash forward in midair similar the fire shield power up from Sonic 3 -Bair is the same as fair, but this time with feeling. See? Sonic never had too much ball. He never had enough.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Dungeon Tortoise oh I don’t like this. There’s too much ball.
@joaotavares6266
@joaotavares6266 3 года назад
His final smash could be wisp from sonic colors
@majabrzezinska9238
@majabrzezinska9238 2 года назад
amazing moveset mod
@ClassifiedRanTom
@ClassifiedRanTom 2 года назад
You should keep some ball moves, like maybe neutral air.
@w.ninjakoopa
@w.ninjakoopa 3 года назад
I mean, Sonic is better known by curling up into a ball rather than kicking a lot.. I mean, using his SIGNATURE ATTACK only in 4 of his attacks feels rather void.. anyways, I do agree that the Side-B had to be changed. edit: misspelling, oof
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 3 года назад
Sonic battle is more than enough.
@ScrewdriverGaming
@ScrewdriverGaming Год назад
I feel like sonic would kick a lot, since his legs can move so fast
@espurrseyes42
@espurrseyes42 3 года назад
*Jab:* No need to change it. Honestly not a fan of changing the kick. This combo is already similar to Mario's, which is perfectly fine, but a matching kick just makes it a bit too similar. *F-Tilt:* It can stay. *U-Tilt:* That double kick honestly looks best on him. *D-Tilt:* Replace the sweep with a generic crouch kick or the Somersault or something. *F-Smash:* Honestly, that can stay. The wind-up punch is a nice, charming move. *U-Smash:* Don't remember what it's called, but the Flash Kick move that I think was from Battle. *D-Smash:* A combination of the sweep attack from 06 *(Vomits internally)* and the breakdance. Also a nice parallel to Mario also having a breakdance move. *Dash:* The slide. Duh. *N-Air:* Insta-Shield from the Classic games. Yes, it'd still use the ball, but at least it's not another Spindash. *F-Air:* I don't care if Pikachu's F-Air is a good move, Sonic's should be the Sonic Eagle. It's something he's actually done, from one of his own fighting games, and, you guessed it, parallels Mario's spiking F-Air. *B-Air:* I'd rather it not be the Humming Top because could be a potential Side Special. Plus the current one is fine. *U-Air:* It can stay. *D-Air:* It can also stay. *Throws:* Up Throw aside (love the Blue Tornado reference), his Throws can stay. *N-Spec:* Homing Attack kinda has to stay, as its up there with the Spin Dash as one of his most iconic moves, maybe even more so since the Spindash has been absent in the Boost games. *S-Spec:* You could give him the Humming Top. You could give him some kind of Boost based move. You could give him that air blade kick from Lost World 3DS or Sonic Wind for a projectile of some kind. There's plenty of options that AREN'T THE SPIN DASH. *U-Spec:* Same move, but make him spin like he does in Mania and I think a few other games. *D-Spec:* Keep it as the Classic Spindash with the properties of the Spin Charge (minus the slight bounce on launch), but change it to be the Bounce Attack when used in the air. *Final Smash:* At least make Super Sonic a cinematic attack. I know people are getting tired of Classic Sonic, but I wouldn't mind if he was called on to do their little double charge they used to take out Timer Eater as a cinematic Final Smash rather than the trash he currently has (or the broken mess he used to have).
@anqwancollins3019
@anqwancollins3019 3 года назад
I like his old forward smash
@mechashadow
@mechashadow 3 года назад
What is the difference between the Windmill kick and Hummingtop aerial tho’?
@game84cube
@game84cube 3 года назад
For the Final Smash? Light Speed Attack. Make it cinematic. He throws a Warp Ring, sending his opponents into the Special Zone, then he revs up and blasts all around like in Heroes and the Adventure games. Sorry, but that has to have the Spin. This at least can look like a flash of light. Also, why not for his Dash Attack, he could use the Somersault from Adventure 2 or at least the Slide? The Boost could be a Side Special functioning like Wario's Bike or Jigglypuff's Rollout. As for the Spring, why not have a way to change it's direction and charge it from a Yellow Spring to a Red Spring? Also, the Homing Attack could be faster, but only "spammable" 3 times based on tricks he does like in Adventure 2, and the Spin Dash could have properties of both, where Sonic could hold the charge like Adventure and get the Side variant and if you mash like the Classics you get the Down variant. Also, if you don't want him to use the Spin for the throws? May I suggest the Peel-Out run for Down Throw, where he basically does the same thing as normal but uses his feet for faster damage? And the up throw? Hmmm...while I like the Blue Tornado angle, maybe he just runs around them causing a tornado and then he punts them upwards? Kinda like the ending of Sonic CD? Oooh, and for his Up Air? While I like the CD rep, and a Drill Kick upwards is just being Fox again...why not a Flip Kick like Mario's? Playing off their rivalry and all. Again, this is going off if your avoiding the Spin. Cuz, hate to say it, the Insta-Shield would be a great N-Air with his Windmill Kick being a Back Air. Personally I like the Eagle Kick being a D-Air for a Spike, as well as a footstool effect. Don't worry, Super Sonic is still the main choice for Final Smash. Just maybe as a Cinematic? Using Chaos Control or a Warp Ring to send to the Special Zone, Sonic goes Super and zooms around the stage every which way. Basically combining Super Sonic with Light Speed Attack. This is my take. Your ideas are awesome. Anything really is better than the half-assed attempt they gave him in Smash proper
@bamama1365
@bamama1365 3 года назад
4:06 I regret watching this frame at 2 am
@EmeraldBlade98
@EmeraldBlade98 2 года назад
This is a good moveset
@BenInstaLITGames
@BenInstaLITGames 3 года назад
"Too much ball"
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
Too much ball!
@ribbitshines1059
@ribbitshines1059 3 года назад
My Idea for a new final smash: This would be a Cinematic Final Smash, Sonic would have the chaos emeralds form around him and charge in-front of him. Then the hit fighters would get shot onto the Death Egg. After that Super Classic Sonic and Super Sonic would be in-front of them and charge at the Death Egg about 50 times (This wouldn't last that long since they would be blurs during this part) then they would fly away as the Death Egg exploded behind them. ((High percentages/Red: Immediately get flung out of the area. Mid percentages/Yellow or Orange: Would get flung only a bit. Low percentages: they would only get knocked back.))
@karelissomoved1505
@karelissomoved1505 3 года назад
The final smash would transform sonic into werehog. Or just select randomly among all the sonic forms.
@vegetafan9922
@vegetafan9922 3 года назад
AM I LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS SONIC'S UP SPECIAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAILS SWOOPING IN TO CARRY SONIC SINCE BRAWL INSTEAD OF A SPRING APPEARING FROM ABSOLUTE NOWHERE!?
@Flintstix
@Flintstix 3 года назад
i would use the wisps as a final special like in the end of colors
@mepzerok
@mepzerok 3 года назад
I personally think boost and light speed dash should swap actions. Just a suggestion. Nothing wrong with their positions now.
@tincan4719
@tincan4719 3 года назад
sonic should be a ball, but still pretty good
@Cooldude45508
@Cooldude45508 3 года назад
It was great😃
@MJGaming57_REAL
@MJGaming57_REAL 3 года назад
Sonics final smash could be the werehog and could use a donkey Kong final smash with range. If it were brawl or smash 4 then it would just be sonic with his kicks and punches having lots of range.
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 3 года назад
What if his Final Smash takes a page from Mega Man, and gets help from Classic Sonic and... Boom Sonic? Yeah nvm.
@TMSonicFan47
@TMSonicFan47 3 года назад
Here's an idea for the Light Dash to differentiate it from the Fox Illusion. What if Sonic was able to charge the Light Dash up for more distance and/or damage? The charge would be indicated by a trail of rings similar to Pac-Man's side B.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
but wouldnt that just make it similar to Pac-Man side b? it seems like you're replacing one problem with another problem, ya know?
@TMSonicFan47
@TMSonicFan47 3 года назад
@@toxiquid True. My idea was that Sonic wouldn’t be able to aim it like Pac-Man’s. Probably should have specified. (Also, sorry for not responding sooner. I had reply notifications turned off.)
@pikaboystudios3842
@pikaboystudios3842 3 года назад
Sonic turns into hyper sonic and does the knockout flash thing doing damage to any enemy near, he will then he will lift up the death egg and throw it at the enemy(s) hit by the flash
@majabrzezinska9238
@majabrzezinska9238 2 года назад
its over 9000!
@LostEngineProductions
@LostEngineProductions 3 года назад
What if instead of the lightspeed dash, the homing dash.
@onlycrazy3444
@onlycrazy3444 3 года назад
I mean u can’t get mad at the homing attack it’s been there for a while now
@noahagyeman-badu9509
@noahagyeman-badu9509 3 года назад
the final smash could be the sonic the wherehog from sonic unleashed.
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
thats an interesting idea
@thischanneldoesntexist6132
@thischanneldoesntexist6132 2 года назад
Yes
@Graycale
@Graycale 2 года назад
I wonder if someone said to Nintendo to finally change sonic moveset to smash
@noob___
@noob___ 3 года назад
Okay, the Four Ball abilities Lemme try to change them. Up Throw, Sonic Throws the Enemy Upwards And Does His Up tilt (From the original Moveset) Down Throw, Sonic Does A kirby and Kicks the Enemy But the damage is Low but The Damage Racks Up Quickly Spin Dash Has No need to change but I'll come back to it. Neutral Special, Sonic Drops A Bomb (Referencing Sonic Battle) Okay Back to Sonic's Down Special I Still See No reason To Change It Since It's So iconic So... *Shut up we can bring different characters into the fight* Knuckles Pops Out of the Ground And Digs Sonic Down Underground, Doing What He Does With His Assist Trophy (Also instantly Disappears after) If A Sonic Is On Stage, The Assist Trophy Knuckles Changes To Android Knuckles (From Sonic Advance) And for Sonics FINAL SMASH Sonic Calls For Tails While Knuckles is On the plane (This is why he disappeared) And Anyone Hit by The Plane, Will Be Launched into a cinematic Final Smash, And Amy's There Too! But the only thing she does is throw her Pico pico Hammer And The Final smash Ends With Team Sonic (+Amy) Doing A Team Blast!
@bradonbyrd8061
@bradonbyrd8061 Год назад
Well well
@FixTheWi-Fi
@FixTheWi-Fi 3 года назад
Wait, "final"?
@AshenDust_
@AshenDust_ 3 года назад
A Person With A Name :(
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
That is what I said in the video
@sninkaran9014
@sninkaran9014 3 года назад
C'mon, next part Samus New Moveset!!!!
@anqwancollins3019
@anqwancollins3019 3 года назад
I like kicking than spinning
@bupboi6412
@bupboi6412 3 года назад
Sonic also needs new costumes so I came up with some ideas 1.normal 2. Make him a orange/yellow color and give him tails's gloves and shoes 3. Make him red and give him knuckles's gloves and shoes 4.make him black and give him shadows gloves and shoes 5. Make him a darker orange and give him eggmans gloves(and cuffs) and boots 6.make him pink and give him amys gloves and boots 7.Make him white and give him silvers gloves and boots 8. Make him a lighter blue, make his eyes black and give him classic sonics gloves and shoes (The eye and skin color would also change to match the reference) Btw ew its the bush pig
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
interesting! i love that
@bupboi6412
@bupboi6412 3 года назад
@@toxiquid its not hard to make people agree that sonic has some of the worst costumes in the game
@justyouraveragegamer4033
@justyouraveragegamer4033 3 года назад
@@bupboi6412 except the black one it's a fan favorite
@bupboi6412
@bupboi6412 3 года назад
@@justyouraveragegamer4033 that ones actually a different color, unlike the others
@justyouraveragegamer4033
@justyouraveragegamer4033 3 года назад
@@bupboi6412 yeah I agree Sonic's alts suck he was done dirty out of all the third-party characters the only thing they got right about Sonic and smash is that he's the fastest and his final smash but if I had to keep one of his alts I'd keep the black one not only it's a fan favorite I also like it too
@darkashura194
@darkashura194 3 года назад
Sonic Up B can be Blue Tornado
@Marshadow01
@Marshadow01 3 года назад
For a final smash, maybe he could use the phantom ruby?
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
oooh thats interesting-- what would he do with it though?
@Marshadow01
@Marshadow01 3 года назад
Maybe it could have him use it, and a small area around him gets covered by the rubies effect. It then plays out as a cinematic as those weird cannons that appear in infinite’s boss fight appear and shoot and the enemy, and the finisher is a double boost with sonic and classic sonic?
@josephwaul6137
@josephwaul6137 3 года назад
No, continue Moveset Mods!
@toxiquid
@toxiquid 3 года назад
sorry, i just dont feel the passion for it anymore
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