SONOS ACE - The headphones 5 years in the making 

Thanks so much for your hard work, this is one of my favorite channels. I'm usually not one to wear Headphones a lot but I will be getting this. I'm really excited to hopefully get a Sonos Arc 2 sometime soon. Thanks Peter

Soo excited... I'm just gonna pretend the new app isn't completely useless

Thank you for the video, I always look forward to seeing what you have to say about Sonos products. Can’t wait to check these out for myself.

Amazing sneak peek and info, Peter. Thank you for your level headed and thoughtful presentation of the material. You always are clear and detailed. Your efforts are much appreciated. I hope you love the Ace!

Really looking froward to getting my pair, your pre release information made up my mind up to go ahead. I have the Arc with Era 300 surrounds and a Sub so the Ace will get plenty of use when watching movies and also when listening to music. Thanks for the time and effort you put into making such great content its really appreciated!

Weird there is no wifi. I was kind of counting on them also being like just another wifi/sonosnet device in the home and bluetooth on the go.

Peter, you are still the best Sonos reviewer out there, bar none. Your explanation of how the Ace uses Wifi vs bluetooth was the best I've come across. Given I have the complete Arc setup and live on a condo with upstairs neighbors, I'm really looking forward to trying out their True Cinema capability. So yes, I am definitely one of Sono's target customers. My pre-order is in. Btw, I received an email from Sonos back in March marking my 3-year anniversary of my Arc purchase. Included was a 15% discount code off my next purchase which expires next month. I held on to it for this very occasion so including tax I scored a pair for just over $400. Everything went according to plan :).

woohoo yes 5 years in the making... really excited thanks Peter

My only biggest concern, is getting it to do the music hand-off with Sonos Move, Era 300, maybe Era 100, and the fives. These are the devices in my opinion that are most commonly used with a record player (I use a move with my victrola stream so I can pick up around the house). Having the record player playback on the ace would be sweet! Also airplay being added hopefully would be software limited. These are the only two things stopping me. Now if I had a kid, I could probably overlook these, but fairly large alienation for Sonos die hards. Last note, for people crying about many things, the Ace has more features than nearly every sub $500 headphones.... So don't let the minor flaws outshine how great these are compared to their product category.

I can't wait to get my hands on these

Ordered these, as a full Sonos household the ability to get audio off my arc, and ideally the beam in my office soon will get a lot of use, especially at night when the kids are in bed

Dear Sonos, Come back when you have sorted out the clusterfcuk of the App update and restored all the missing functionalities Yours Everybody

I'm so ready.

Been holding off on getting new headphones for these. I’m very excited to get these!!!

Another great Sonos review - thank you so much Peter - love your reviews

Seems similar to Apple tv 4k + airpod pro 2/airpod max/beats studio pro/beats fit pro all of these have very good atmos playback with the apple tv 4k. They have very convincing surround capability. The Beats Studio Pro are actually a bargain for atmos sound, I bought some different earpads to make them a bit more comfortable and am really enjoying them now. The thing that sucks about these Sonos Ace headphones is that you have to have a Sonos soundbar to take advantage of the cinema features. It is similar to having to buy an Apple tv 4k to take advantage of the airpods/beats but the Sonos path is more expensive.

Anc being maybe the best one, even over sony really surprised me, great to see improvements in anc tech.

I have an entire Sonos house with three full setups in various rooms; so, the idea of the sound swap when my wife goes to bed is fantastic, but really only if I’m watching a 4k UHD disc. All our setups have an Apple TV, and I do have a pair of the Airpod Max. I’m curious if the swap feature, or the sound quality itself, will justify the purchase… That said, I already pre-ordered them! I hope I don’t have to use that return period!

I will be buying one if reviews are good. Need one for night tv viewing.

Great explanation Peter - thx. I'm definitely the target market and have a beam 2 and Sub mini but can never crank it up to my liking in my living room because my wife and daughter always complains 🤪. It ticks most boxes for me and Airplay support will be the icing on the cake! Looking forward to your review 👍🏻

This makes me want to push for visiting my company's location in Singapore some day ❤

Nice 💪🏻 Will await your indepth review of the ace 😊

I’ve been waiting for this for years! My 30% My upgrade discount code worked for my pre-order today making it WELL worth it’s vallue! Going to be great to pair it with my arc when the kids are sleeping, never been able to watch a proper movie for the last 4 years because of this

Nice breakdown! Can’t wait to get mine

Thank you Peter, great first review, I am excited.

Thank you! I always come right to you as soon as I see a new Sonos product or have an issue with any of my speakers. You always provide the best and most thorough information! I do want to tell you what my first thought was, when I saw these headphones : Can I play the headphones AND the speakers at the same time - because my stepfather is very hard of hearing and my mother is very sensitive to loud sounds. If they could use the ARC for her, and the headphones at different volumes, that would be AMAZING for both of them! I'm kind of sad that isn't a possibility. Perhaps Sonos will allow it in the future.

Ive pre ordered the white set expecting these to be slightly better than models like Sony XM5 in sound but with more of a premium look and feel. Will be interesting Peter to see your own review as you already own several nice headphones.

Peter i know there has a lot being going on with Sonos at the moment but is the update good to go on the system. App all updated just want to know if the new update is good to download cheers

Here we gooo the best Sonos connoisseur in the world!!! What I want to know if their trash or their an absolute must must must have???? It all depends on you Peter Pee!!! Can’t wait for your thorough review!!!

to all those who expected streaming over wifi it would be impossible to have this without compromising severely the battery life of the headset. This would also impact the lifespan of the battery since you would have charge much more often for few minutes of listening.

Given how much of an open secret this has been, I've been planning on getting these for my upcoming 50th birthday present to myself 🙂 Not sure if from a music/noise cancelling perspective it'll be a massive upgrade over my current daily drivers (Technics EAH-800's) - but the link to the Arc will be the must have feature for me. Looking forward to your final review!

Thank you for the content. Question, is the P2P connection from the Arc to Ace going to be lossless? If so what's the highest bitrate supported to say music playback?(44.1khz 16bit, 48khz,192khz...etc) Thanks again

Only reviewer who knows what he is talking about. People are expecting way too much on these headphones. Some of the stuff they want is as same as saying why we don’t have commercial flying cars yet 😅

Will I be able to use them with my series x and ps5 aswell ?

I’ve own several versions of Bose quiet comfort. The fake leather flakes off after a year even when not in use. Hence, the leather parts must be easily and cheaply replaceable. In the ace, the head rest leather don’t seem replaceable and that is a concern.

Great information as usual Peter. Got a pair of Aces coming in white for the Mrs and I. Hopefully a good solution for late night viewing.

Hi Peter, can you please do a review for arc + sub mini + era 100? Haven’t saw a video of you showing the era 100 as surround which you mentioned you will do previously as well.

Been waiting on these

I want to start with my particular case, as an android user. Android features are the 2nd on Sonos priority list. They did that with True play, and still no extended true play on android. Second, I was a little bit disappointed with the "no Wifi playback", I understand the battery problem on wifi, but you need to pay $450.00 + sound bar to be able to play HD music on your Sonos Ace (at least I would like to have the wifi feature and let me decide to use it or not.). And this is my 3rd problem, and this is not a sonos problem, Samsung doesn't support APTX-HD on their android phones, just LDAC and single APTX, so I cannot use the ACE to listen "HD" music via just my android phone. I see the Sonos ACE as I see the Sony playstation portal, You need a ps5 to be able to use it correctly, (in this case the soud bar) or else you can do with the ACE what you do with any other headset. I hope that they at least allow any other sonos product to do the Wifi p2p option (eras 300 eras 100).

Than you sir. Where the hell IS my widget ! ?

Nice headphones, but unfortunately a missed opportunity. Why does the Ace have to communicate with my ARC and is not independent So you have to make a choice: sound through TV or headphones. The added value is precisely when your partner can watch TV with sound through ARC and at the same time you can listen Music at the Sonos platform through the headphones.

Salut Peter merci pour la vidéo c’est super que Sonos a fait ce casque je suis un gros consommateur de cinéma et comme ça la nuit je ne dérangerai personne j enverrai le son de la ARC vers le casque pour j’espère une bonne expérience de home cinéma 🤞

Nice video as always ! Thank you so much ! Sadly they aren't waterproof, especially considering the Price.

Thanks!

Hey Peter, is the app working completely fine for you? Would appreciate some coverage given a significant part of the community is facing issues, including myself.

Seems like a missed opportunity to actually have true wireless hi res audio. Just another Bluetooth headset. I can’t imagine why you would choose these over the AirPod max which you get head aware Atmos without needing an arc. I sold both of our arcs for so is Amps so clearly this isn’t. As a heavily invested Sonos user and an owner of many over $1000 head phones, I’m genuinely disappointed.

I’m curious about using these with hearing aids. There IS a market for grouping headphones with theater and other speakers because even the best Bluetooth hearing aids don’t personalize speech sounds / side to side balance / nor transition well between phone / bluetooth devices. I would love to listen to headphones WITH my hearing aids already correcting, vs putting in AirPods and having to switch listening profiles each time. No one else in my family needs the extra listening help, the soundbar and speakers are fine. But the grouping or the option to use the headphones at the same time would be so helpful to me. Any ideas on using these with hearing aids in general? Sizing etc?

Why would anyone buy a Sonos product after the recent mess with their software update? They have demonstrated they can and will disable features in any product at any time they want, without regard to customer concern.

The Beats Studio Pro and the new Beats Solo 4 allows C to C connection to device to play lossless audio.

Wil the Gen 3 sub still be used when switching to the headphones for the cinema sound??..... also, you Ace'd this pre-review!!!

Existing users with multi room setups who have no interest in soundbars have been completely shut out of this release. The users that helped build this community are those that have been screaming for Sonos headphones for years. This product will be viewed by many as Bluetooth headphones with a Sonos badge and no more. This is a hugely disappointing tone deaf release and proves they aren’t listening to their customers, ignoring the ecosystem is ignoring the thing that makes you different. I have 8 Sonos products scattered around the house and this works with precisely none of them.

As someone with s Beam gen2, at least I get to save up a while before I pick these up and wait fir the inevitable bugs to be hopefully worked out too. I was really hoping for charge on hanger/ auto swap on pickup functions,

Would love a comparison of ACE to the new Hedanys by Focal.

Hey Boss I will like to know if we can connect this ACE with the Apple TV to skip buy the arc ?

Hi Peter when is your Sonos ace review coming out?

Tell them to fix their goddamn app. You have pull.

Wonderful video Peter. Do you think that if you have a Vinyl player in the system, this TV audio swap will allow for vinyl listening if you can group the speakers?

Why does this not support Beam (gen2) setup day1? What exactly does "coming soon" mean. Is this like when they said trueplay on android "coming soon"?

Me gustaría tener información de la música local en Sonos, funciona con más en smb3?

Seriously interested in buying this one, because I can then finally enjoy cinema in the evening while kids are asleep. But …they only work wireless or is it also possible to disable Bluetooth and use a physical 3,5mm jack kabel to USB C?

Hi Peter, very detailed video as usual thank you. So without an Arc can you still get the cinema scape aspect?

Interesting product for sure, but I’ll wait for Air Pod Max 2 to be released (hopefully later this year) before making a decision. Hopefully Sonos-App-Gate is behind us by then. Thanks Peter!

Can you swap music from the speakers to headphone. For example I listen to my Fives and the it gets late I can just put the headphones on and continue where I left off?

Hi Peter thank you for the great video🙌 may I just ask about the size and weight of the ace compare to airpods max? Thanks a lot 🙏

Will the Sonos Ace allow to watch Movies/TV in Atmos/Spatial audio on iPhone/iPad?

WiFi connections are hard on battery life. I think this contributes to why this was skipped. However, the P2P WiFi with the Arc is a good feature

As someone not having other Sonos devices, will I be able to view content with Dolby Atmos/Spatial Audio on windows? Like movies with VLC?

Good video. Can you tell me if these headphones connect to an Apple TV?

Presume if you have lossless music streaming to an arc and then swap it to the ace it will play lossless on the ace? Do you know Peter?

Anyone? Is trueplay broken after the last updates? I couldn’t tune. It worked this morning after the last update, bass felt way off. Tried to rerun, now it not saving it again as before.

I want to see the Apple compatibility features before I pre-order

If I had to buy a pair now I'd get these. But, it's really hard to justify switching from my Sony WH-1000XM5... I have a "all Sonos home", including a Sonos Arc, the idea of simply transferring the Atmos audio from the Arc to the headphones is great, but I can already set my PC to play Atmos for headphones (yes in Bluetooth VS Wifi so audio is probably more compressed). Am I missing something? Thanks and cheers!

They look great! They’re good looking headphones , a bit like a more refined version of the Apple AirPods Max! Look forward to hearing them 😅

As an Apple user and in the eco system I use the AirPod Max with my Apple TV but it sounds like these Sonos headphones are a waste of time as you need an arc to get the true cinema experience from them. I don’t like using the AirPod Max for travel as they’re too heavy on the head and was hoping to purchase the new Sonos Ace ones but don’t see the point now or am I missing something? May have to just purchase the Bose QC ultras instead. These headphones are obviously great if you’re in the Sonos ecosystem.

Yeah baby....they're out albeit on pre-order. Waiting for the full in-depth review before I can justify spending thay much on these. That Dolby Atmos alone is enticing if I may say so myself.

Having Sonos headphones independent of your regular Sonos system is the perfect solution for people with hearing loss.

Do these new headphones have pass through like Apple Max?

Do you know if you can connect the Ace to a PC via USB-C for video calls (e.g. Zoom) or does it only support calls via Bluetooth? Couldn’t find anything about this in the release information

Sony got a lot more bass in comparison, wonder if EQ can help and how much. Anyway ult wear got my heart, and with that one it's impossible to co.pete 😂

Is it possible to connect multiple Sonos Ace headphones via theater swap (wifi access)?

Thanks Peter, my biggest drawback is no support of Lossless via iOS bluetooth. That is a big miss in your opinion correct?

You should have asked when they’re going to make the new app worth downloading..not interested in headphones. Apple pro EarPods work just fine.

So you’re saying without sonos arc, its ability will not be maximum? 😢

Don’t quite understand the feature to playback the sound according to my room arc setup. Would prefer the ace to deliver the best sound that it possibly could instead of trying to imitate the room setup.

TV audio swap only works with iOS. Also, not having any kind of room grouping (even if limited to no Atmos) and being entirely limited to soundbars, is a big bummer for those of us who are Amp users. If it sounds better than the AirPods Max, I’ll buy it, but they haven’t really implemented many Sonos killer features so it’s going to have to beat Apple on sound.

Don’t get it - if listening to music through the ARC is it better quality due to WiFi? Can you use it without any phone or other BT source ? Having the Sonos Echo System around ?

I was really hoping this would use wi-fi to send a wireless Hi-res sound quality experience to the headphones. Yes, so I can have no wires while I sit ir move around. Also so my phone's bluetooth does not send annoying notification sounds. ... yes genius I can silent all notifications while i use these and then turn notifications back on after doing that. However i would rather skip that step each time. Kinda the way we all use Sonos speakers in the house versus a bluetooth speaker.

Can we connect 2 headphones 🎧 in the same time?

Does the Ace carry the home sound profile on the go? e.g. your sonos home sound signature into the car playing music or video?

Hey Peter will this headphones work with the Sonos PlayBar

Do you think these are the best at noise canceling? Comparing them to the Sonys and air pods max?

Can I listen to lossless via Apple Music with my iPhone on these via Bluetooth?

They can be bought in a 2 pack for $45 off. :)

30:51 so, in theory if someone has only a beam G1, with no satellite or subwoofer, does that mean the Ace will sound just like 2.0? If so, that makes no sense, since the hardware could in theory can do far more...

Woo

One question - maybe I missed it. Can you pair multiple Ace headsets at once? (E.g., two people watching same movie in house at night)

I guess we'll get Beam Gen2 support in about a year then? Along with 80.0.0.475 (which will fix 11 of the 176 app issues)...

Peter, I find that this was a missed opportunity for Sonos to lean into more personal home theater scenarios given the trend towards watching movies on mobile and laptop devices, and even the Apple Vision Pro (AVP). While I understand that the AVP is not yet released in Singapore yet, as a fellow Singaporean living in the US, I currently own one and it is a game changer to how future media consumption looks like. Handicapping the spatial audio features of the Ace to the Arc and future sound bars therefore seems shortsighted. In fact, I recently sold my Arc, Sub, and surrounds after getting the AVP since there wasn't a need for it anymore (movies, especially 3D ones, are far more immersive with the AVP), and the AVP is much more portable especially if you're mostly on the move, or are renting and may not have the space or may need to relocate in the future.

No Airplay = no purchase?

Peter Pee, you usually do extensive tests and I hope you can do some radiation tests? Wifi on my head seems a bit scary?