Sonos Arc Gen 2 will revolutionize the soundbar industry this year 

I’ve lost all confidence in Sonos after the app update without warning. I am a long term owner with 12 products but you can’t go and change an app, the S2 that worked flawlessly and replace it with that - sake of changing it for what??. Spending thousands on a product then getting betrayed like that is unforgivable.

Sonos needs to come up with something real quick that works flawlessly to get back consumer confidence.

My biggest hope is that Gen 2 allows for adding more speakers. Still waiting for a true atmos sound bubble effect.

Samsung is selling the 990 C and D for far less than Sonos’ theater package. Sonos is a hard sell.

Also, we don't need more bass from the ARC ( subwoofers can do the job) but a wider soundstage and a more precise center channel would be a welcomed upgrade... also improve mid range frequency for music listening..... making daisy chain use of multiple Era 100 or 300 would be nice... they should listen to their customers for inputs.

This better be big, Sonos need it

I've been waiting to add a main soundbar and subwoofer to my system for a year, waiting for this to come out. I love the Beam 2 for my office TV. I figured it would be a no brainer day one purchase but the App debacle has really made me consider whether to keep investing in my Sonos system (which is rough as I've got 12 products).

Sonos recently submitted an FCC filing for the Arc successor, so release is imminent. So your expectation for September release makes sense.

I’m holding off on getting any more Sonos products. I was frustrated most recently with their headphones pairing easily with my iPhone and iPad but fortunately I was able to return for a full refund. Sonos has software issues and you can’t use their products without their software, so I’m out. Hoping the systems I already own keep going with minimal issues. Rock on.

I already saw their "revolution" with new app and software quality. Will see, will see.

Going to upgrade to the Arc 2 and gift my current Arc with my old One SLs that were replaced by a pair of ERA 300s.

While an updated arc will be nice and I’ll be first in line. I’m pretty happy with my current arc (and accompanying subs and 300’s).

I WAS looking at 2 surround setups for different parts of my home UNTIL I heard about this incredible debacle.

Sonos ideally arc with Bluetooth, and like a few more inputs for audio. As if we could get TVs that don’t support eARC but I have an Apple TV so I don’t get Dolby atmos to the sound bar, but the apply could send it if it had it. Just some amazing options that could make it a killer setup. Connectivity, sound is already amazing.

I agree, they won't get another dime from me either and I just feel cheated. I have 2 Sub Gen 3s, 2 ERA 300s, 2 SL1s, 2 Moves, and the Arc. The hardware is beautiful and powerful, but the software which ultimately drives everything is downright DISGUSTING! You are free to go right on ahead and pick up all of the Sonos hardware, if you want, but the software the system relies on is garbage. It's trash and it's not just because the UI and the UX are trash, but that the system requires that software in order to even produce sound. And the software is so buggy that you will spend hours trying to reconnect the speaker just because you changed your Wi-Fi password or Wi-Fi set up. Then when you get it changed and you think you have it connected then all of a sudden everything will disconnect and then you'll have to reset your Wi-Fi and you'll have to reset your app and you'll have to update your app and then you'll have to reset your phone and then you have to reset your phone again and then you'll have to reset your Wi-Fi again and then you'll have to factory reset all of your equipment (which requires you to go to each product and hold a button while plugging the product back in) and all of a sudden you decide I'm sick and tired of fooling with this and the next day you wake up and it works like you never ever spent the whole previous day trying to get it to work. But, trust me, you didn't really get it to work because it will absolutely crash again. Sonos software literally has me checking the Sonos app every DAMN DAY to see if everything is working properly. You don't spend thousands of dollars on a theater system, like I did, and not use it every single day! And every single day you're wondering what's going to be the New Sonos issue today! You want to sit down on an evening after you finished work and a tough work week and just find a good movie with Dolby Atmos and enjoy the thousands of dollars you've spent on some of the best hardware out there to watch that movie and you simply can't watch it because Sonos software is garbage and that is not a dramatization! I wish I would spend another dime on anything Sonos. As long as they have those 2 women running that software division, they will never get the software experience on par with the hardware. They need to be fired! And, I am down with any class action suit that gets levied against Sonos. And, BTW, I had to go out and by an iPhone to tune my system as well. 🤬 And, much of the software issues revolve around Sonos trying to make sure the software works with Android, but not with the Google ecosystem! Sonos has spent so much time trying to make sure that Sonos products don't work with the Google ecosystem that even using iPhone(their preferred connectivity device) equipment doesn't resolve the problems. It's bled over into iPhone setup with their equipment. And you can best believe that none of your NEW (2023 OR NEWER) hardware will work with anything Google, and the Sonos Voice Assistant is straight garbage! I say buy at your own risk! You have been warned! BTW, I love Peter's channel because he's definitely given strong support to keep my Sonos equipment up and running properly, but there's only so much he can do! The Sonos software division is the truly deplorable culprit here! RANT OVER! 😂😭

We need 2 ERA 300’s that you can place as left and right front and 1 ERA 300 as a center. That will be revolution in the Sonos eco system.

I was really thinking about buying the current Arc this fall. Not sure if I should/want to wait….

...and again, the SONOS Hardware is A+. No complaints from me. Unfortunately, it is now all about The App.

1] they need to get their App in order. 2] they need better compatibility and codes. 3] their hardware setup needs to at least rival Samsung q990d. So more tweeters and woofers, more high and surround channels. If not just be noticeably better sonicly. 4] their DSP need to rival Sony HT9 for 3D sound. 5] and for the last, they cannot over charge like Apple, if they are not much better than competition. Cause they are not, looking at the app and outdated codes….

While I think it would be cool if sonos implemented that heart tech into all the speakers in the soundbar I bet they will implement it into 1 or 2 for the bass of the soundbar. If they implement it into all of the speakers I would think the amplification/power supply required would be too much to fit in the soundbar. That makes me wonder why more soundbar manufacturers don't have an external power supply. I would mind if it was external if it meant better sound for the speakers.

When I can get the 990C for close to $700, the Sonos soundbar would have to make me breakfast, lunch, and dinner for me to justify paying Sonos inflated prices for a soundbar with issues, especially considering they also nerfed the gen 1.

Excited for the ARC 2 but I'm going to be annoyed when I see how much it costs I'm sure.

They’re going to have to really knock The Gen 2 out the park with the way the headphones/app played out. They need to be able to push an even larger soundstage bc the 990c and 990d soundbar offers a better soundstage currently but their subwoofer is lackluster. And please for the love of god can we get center channel control! Would be nice if they added a button for trueplay or an included microphone for room tuning

I have the arc gen 1 right now, looking forward to hearing about the updates

Thank you Peter. I enjoy and appreciate your channel.

I will be holding out for the Arc 2. Hopefully it provides the upgrades that you are foreshadowing. Looking forward to your next video to learn more about the feature set.

I been waiting for it. I’m ready to buy the gen 2 and put the gen 1 in my bedroom Pete thanks for the info.

For me the recent app issues have made me realise that something that is so app dependent is not what I want anymore. You can’t even use the aux in on the fives anymore without going in to the app to select it. Where’s the auto switching gone. For me I just don’t like the interaction with the app and products. Sometimes it would be nice to control volume or skip a track without opening an app on your phone. The Sonos controller was a good option.

Interesting to compare the Gen 2 vs Harman Kardon 1100 setup that I heard still solid. Only issue with HK 1100 is no Apps to control.

I think Sonos needs to act fast to boost sales with a new product that restores customer confidence. Otherwise, they’re going downhill, all because of their own app. Even their CEO has come out apologizing for the mistakes and poor management over the past few months.🤞

I just bought a month ago the arc, sub and era 100, and asked for any evolution of the bar and they told, not, is no planning for the moment, I'm really mad, because I must wait for the new version

My Son works for one of our top HiFi shops in my country (JBHiFi in New Zealand) and he went to an internal expo (not for the general public) with all the other sales teams, and while there he went in the draw to win the Sonos Ultimate Immersive Set and won the full set for free (Sonos Arc soundbar, Two x Era 300 speakers, Sonos Gen 3 Subwoofer). As we speak, they are shipping it to him so he should have everything by the end of next week. Looking forward to hearing it. It makes sense why they have done this after watching this with the Gen 2 Arc soundbar about to be released soon, but still to get this whole set for free is a win win since my son up until now has only used his TV audio for gaming. This will be a huge upgrade to his bedroom sound and if he decides to upgrade to the Arc gen 2 sound bar in the future, he now gets 45% off the retail price for Sono's products anyway being a JBHiFi staff member and since he has done the Sonos training modules.

I sold my Arc in the beginning of the year and got the Sony HT-A9 instead. However, I kept my 2 x Era 300's in anticipation for the either Arc Gen 2 or an Amp Gen 2

Hello Peter Pee, why don't you make a video to configure the ones that have almost all the sonos speakers and group them together, I have a sonos arc, a generation 2 subwoofer, also 2 sonos five and 2 sonos era 300 and I want the best configuration of all of them together.

I have arc 1 with sub gen2 . I bought arc about 1 year ago for about$ 800 with tax. How much will new soundbar cost? Will it be justified to upgrade?

Can you do a review of the Bose Ultra Soundbar? And the Bose Bass unit and surrounds to make a 5.1.2 set up.

I am one of those people that is holding back with Sonos till this new release will come out. Still the lack of support of DTS-X etc is a problem for me. Then there is the new Sony Bravia Theatre Quad that offers a surround sound that Sonos can't beat. I don't think this soundbar is going to deliver that because it's a soundbar and that can never be as immersive as a full surround set up. I was hoping Sennheiser would be releasing surrounds speakers but unfortunately that has not happened yet.

Thanks Peter as always! You the man!

They need to be able to set up an amp as atmos ceiling speakers

I just got into the Sonos ecosystem a week ago.. the first gen arc is good but all the other items I picked up are a big POS and so is their app. I regret getting into their ecosystem

Sonos should allow the use of a second sub mini .. this could easily be implemented via a firmware update.... they would sell more sub mini ....

Increase the trade in value of the arc v1.0 against the arc v2.0 to show loyalty towards your existing customer base , who are willing to spend money knowing that the current flawed app has restricted and broken functionality inherent in the previous versions.

I’d rather have a next gen sonos five with side and top firing speakers so we can use it instead of the era 300 for 7.1.4 surround

Would be great to see a upgraded version of the current Arc, at least for the people not wanting to add a sub. I am currently using the Arc combined with a sub gen 3 and two Sonos Era 300s. I’m very happy with my setup at the moment and do not expect to upgrade anytime soon. And the complaints about the app… people please, give it time. They tried to innovate and take a different approach. It backfired, okay. They recently apologised and now we all have to move on and stop exaggerating, it isn’t all that bad. There is no succes without failure, that goes for Sonos as well. So people, please show some kindness, that won’t hurt, right.

I almost purchased the Sonos Ace headphones.... but some compatibility is not working for some customers.... 😢

The Arc is good, but can't DTS sound which is incomprehensible to me, hopefully the new ARC can do it

Arc Gen 1 is clearly a generation and a half behind the work they have done on the ERA 300. . Its dispersion and sound stage are too limited. I like its fidelity and overall clarity, but it cannot accomplish some of the spatial feats that the era 300 can.

I haven the beam 2 for 2 years… so I sell it and now I have the arc for 2 months ago and I think I gonna be stock with this soundbar for ever, I just too good I even can get the volumen in 90 or 100%.. I still thinking I get the sub mini one more time..

I’ve spent close to $10 000 on SONOS products and the latest app has soured my experience, so my answer is No, I will Not be upgrading to the new Arc.

Sonos don't need a newer soundbar. They should make it possible to use more speaker for their Atmos setup. Like a Beam G2 as Center, 4x Era 100 or 300 and 1-2 Subs. Waiting for Googles Atmos-Codec that allows you to setup any speaker to your setup. Let's see what they cooked up for the Arc Gen. 2. At least 2- 3 HDMI inputs would be nice. Sound should be on the same level as the Sennheiser Ambeo Plus. If they had Rears I would have bought the Ambeo over the Arc for 100%.

I hope the Arc 2 will have better stereo separation. Stereo content on the 1 sounds much too centered for me.

It seems the Era 300’s have enhanced the Sonos soundbar system but the Arc is a few years old now and I’ve read it’s going to be replaced in late autumn with a new arc 2. I think if you are updating a product that hasn’t been changed in years you would expect a substantial improvement rather than a small incremental one. Having watched a few video reviews the general consensus is that the soundbar is the weakest link in the system with the Gen 3 sub and Era 300 surrounds. Not shabby by any means but could be better with dialogue and less artificial sounding.

Debating Sonos Arc 2 or Sony Quad. Let’s see what Sonos comes out with.

As I heard Sonos Arc Gen2 will be named Lasso. Let's wait release

So you think SUB module is not required for ARC ten 2? sound bar itself is good enough to produce good lower frequency sounds?

Thank you for the video - I have Arc Gen 1, 2 Sub and 2 Era 300. Would you expect the upgrade to Arc Gen 2 to be evolutionary in this case or still revolutionary?

Do you think Sonos will ever add DTS X or HD MA to the Arc? I use mine in my cinema room but its a real pain not being able to play lossless audio in older movies not encoded in Atmos. I don't know why they don't offer it as an optional paid software upgrade.

I only use the Arc Gen 1 as I don’t have to use that pos app.

I just got the arc with two sub gen 3’s and two era 300 rears ima return the arc and wait for the arc 2

If Sonos fails again they will be gone im waiting for Arc 2

Grilled fish spaghetti!!!

They can’t defy the laws of physics. Speakers move air for sound, so the bigger the cone, the more air=louder and more/deeper bass. They can move more air with long throw drivers or increase the cone size artificially with passive radiators. All of this has been done and all of these features currently exist on the current Arc. Higher quality drivers with a premium cone material, a longer throw and bigger magnet can produce more and better sound, but will cost a lot more. I think they realized they can now charge up to $1500 for a sound bar so they will use more premium drivers and amps in a similar form factor and it will easily outperform the Arc gen 1 as well as other soundbars currently on the market. Start saving!

I'm excited for the Sonos Arc gen 2, is there a company or website that will give top dollar for my Sonos Arc?

Will this come with multiple HDMI connections? I have multiple devices to connect like an apple tv and want to ensure the arc 2 will improve off the arc in this area

Great vid

Is there any hope of Sonos putting in a 2nd HDMI port to output video for those of us who don’t have eARC TV’s?

I must say I don't like the new app at all but after reading forums and other sites I'm left shaking my head.. am I seriously the only one who has never had an issue with the system?

Hi Peter, could make a video talking about the new Apple patent for DAC technology called something like “static alternating fill order” (AFO) logic. I saw the article online, but was kinda hard to understand for someone that doesn’t have a background in analog audio. Maybe you could check it up, and summarize it for us mortals.

Grilled Fish Spaghetti ❤

DTS:X, bluetooth and an hdmi 2.1 port would be nice

I’m very confused why the arc was so successful with only having one port, and not really supporting that many audio formats, but I even bought one only to replace it with a Samsung system.

I was gifted a Sonos Arc from my wife at my birthday. I immediately returned it as I am waiting for the 2nd gen. due to all of the rumors or a upgrade soon to come. I would be so sad to have spend such big money for a device that will be be outdated within a couple of months. My wife clearly understood my thoughts and agreed that it would be better to wait for the next upgrade as we've been used to a TV sound for the past 10 years. So waiting a couple of months was no biggie 😄 Looking forward to seeing and feeling the revolution! So do you expect the bass performance of the Arc gen 2 to be as good as the Sonos Sub? And you eventually have the same performance from a gen 2 towards the current going Arc + Sub? 🙂

The only question i have, will it support the Google assistant and will it be a finished product?

My current Sonos speakers still don't work correctly because of the software "upgrade". Why the hell would I buy another Sonos product?

Has Sonos fixed the missing local library issue on the app? The Sonos forums are mixed to negative. Any experience with local library function?

Could you recommend to buy now a Sonos system? Included the Arc, Sub and 2 Era 300 or would you go away from sonos?

Peter Pee please best settings for arc+sub+2 five +2 eras 300 please😊

It's always interesting to me how these no name companies can figure out something a team of engineers at a 30+ year old speaker company with millions in R&D budget can't especially when physics hasn't changed.

If the Arc 2 produces higher levels of bass then how will Sonos persuade customers to buy the Sub?

What's the point of better bass on a ARC gen 2 if you have a Sub Gen 3 already and it takes ALL the bass away from the Speakers anyways..

I have both Sonos Arc with two gen 3 subs and SL 1s and Naka-Dragon, Nakamichi wins hands down!

Didn’t we have enough revolution last May?

Sooooo.... guess I'm holding off on a pair of era 300s so arc gen 2 and 4 ers 300s fml my bank account is gonna hate me..

I will shocked if it gives such low frequencies in the bass

Lasso 2 era 300s vs Nakamichi Dragon?

I hope they come out with something higher end than the Arc. I have an Arc, two Era 300s and a Sub Gen 3. The Era 300s are better than the Arc and Sub by far. The arc is the weakest link and I didn't feel a large difference between it and the beam gen 2.

The problem we have now the majority is the main Sonos app,its a crap.For that reason i will never add any speakers anymore or make an upgrade.

The Sonos app is badly broken. I haven't been able to do anything with my system since May. All I can do is use the ARC as an HDMI speakler. That's it. The new app doesn't see any of my hardware at all...the ARC, the subwoofer, or the two Sonos One Rear speakers. I wouldn't buy another Sonos system if my life depended on it.

I am frustrated with Sonos, it’s getting disconnecting countless times from system Sonos please do something 🙏🏻

Don’t get your hopes and expectations too high with the new Arc 2 being a huge update. It’s more of an evolution (aka… refresh update) definitely not a revolution update. It’s similar to how Apple releases their new iPhones every year 😉 Just letting you know so everyone doesn’t cry and get mad when it gets released. Just how everyone reacted to the new Sonos App lol.

When is the question

Probably just passive radiators.

Great video Peter and I would be excited for the Arc2, but with this latest app disaster which is still close to useless, I will not be giving Sonos any more of my cash. I have Arc, pair of Ones, Sub, pair of Era 300s. They need this app sorting out as they are committing commercial suicide at the moment with this app.

I gotta be honest Peter, I don’t think Sonos is going to be selling many. The trust is gone from so many. I am feeling like the Ace have done poorly sales wise as well.

The latest software upgrade was a fiasco! As always I lost my trueplay settings ( android user) So I have to find someone with a IPhone and come to my place... why didn't they store my settings on their servers or on a memory chip on my sonos Arc ? Its the third times in 4 years I've lost my trueplay settings 😡😡😡

If it works! Hehehe.

The updated app killed it for me. I’m out and back to rca’s

What happened to your Wireless Audiophile t-shirt!

Still unable to pair my equipment with the new app. So only my arc can be used for movies. No sub no surrounds. Never again.

Ok so this is about a product that doesn’t exist. Let me know when they have fixed the app