Sony 70-200 f2.8 GM II Review: I vs II vs Tamron 70-180mm 

I have so many 67mm filters :-). Getting my Tamron today . Bought it without realizing the macro bonus.

Traveled about 7 feet.. we are on to you Tony!!!

Alright guys today we got the worlds best sports camera being paired up with the newest and possibly greatest sports and portraiture lens...lets take pictures of my wife lol

@@YakAlmighty man, filter is not a big deal in glasses lo

📸🌎❤️ True, painfully well…I’m glad you mentioned this spoiler so I could confirm it in this excellent review. My question is how this new lens performs against the best portrait options. I’m also wondering if my Nikon Df would appreciate me buying the new Sony A7iv:)

You can be a pro and still use the tamron.

@@charruaporelmundo I dont think so, other pros would make fun of you. ;-)

@@charruaporelmundo exactly

@@logtothebase2 I’m at that age where what other think about me is …. Irrelevant.

@@charruaporelmundo Likewise. take care.

He said KFC

It’s unlimited. Enjoy!

Gerald undone has this test in his video.

With tele converter Jared Polin already has a review

Unfair. Jordan is like 6’7”. Also my athletic abilities are best described as, “Played trombone in marching band.”

@@TonyAndChelsea 😂😂

@@TonyAndChelsea Have you seen Jordan run though? His athletic abilities are best described as "thoroughly likeable, but exceptionally clumsy panda bear". Whenever they do an af tracking test on DP review I fear that this is finally the time he'll stumble and hurt himself (sorry Jordan :D)

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@@TonyAndChelsea Hi! Is the the tamron works with sony 1.4 teleconverter? Thanks in advance!

It's already there

Wow😮

When stepping down all the small differences there was will dissapear. Any modern lens will be sharp at 5.6-8. There is no point comparing them, people pay big money for wide open performance, not stepping down performance.

@@oscarshen6855 If there are no appreciable differences in image quality at smaller apertures, then that would be useful information to provide for those of us typically shooting at smaller apertures. That's really all I'm saying. For those shooting wildlife or sports, the differences wide open are, of course, very relevant. All I'm saying is they should complete the picture for landscape photographers and let us know when (whether) the differences evaporate. If you're saying that all modern lenses have the same IQ across the field once stopped down to 5.6-8 then I would a) not entirely agree, and b) even if it were true, it would still be useful for landscape photographers to hear that when the review is conducting lens comparisons.

you should buy an f4 lens. probably 100-400 sigma or the smaller tamron

@@goddesseddog 🙂 I already have the Sony 100-400 GM f4.5-5.6. I don't have a particularly good reason to replace it.

And portrait shooters like me who will shoot at 2.8 don't care about corner sharpness.

Oooou yeah… thinking of pairing that with my new a7 iv

The a1 shoots at 30 fps compared to around 10 on older bodies. It's orders of magnitude more hard to focus at 30 fps than at 10 fps.

Agreed 👍

Really? What in the world made you think of KEH? (sarcasm emoji)

If everyone sells their old Sony gear at KEH, it will bring down the prices, which will make it cheaper for everybody to buy Sony gear at KEH. We can make it happen people, it's simple economics!

Never heard of KEH

yeah I did the laborious firmware update prior to the testing :D

@@TonyAndChelsea I knew you always do, just had to ask haha! Great review thanks to you both, looks to be a great lens in the lineup!

They're not software capped. They simply don't have the motors that are fast enough to move at 30fps, just like many Sony lenses aren't 30fps when on the 30fps systems. The E-mount system is open source, but that doesn't mean that all manufacturers make gear that can support the full capabilities of a camera.

Source please?

@@setaside2 My company does the press relationship management with Sony’s digital imaging team, so I’ve been in every press briefing for every product for two years, multiple briefings per product. And this runs counter to what I’ve heard Sony *actually* say in their press briefings. There are 21 Sony (ff) lenses capable of 30fps on the a1. There are four that support 20fps. There are 12 that are only 15fps. Even if it were accurate that a voice coil is as fast as a linear motor in practical lens application (it’s not) the speed with which a lens focuses isn’t simply motor speed. It’s also the ability of the lens to communicate with the camera’s AF system to drive it. Sonys cameras communicate with Sony’s lenses and their lenses that can do 30fps maximize both motor speed and commutations speed. To use a phrase from the automotive industry, they’re “tuned for speed.” The E-mount is an open standard, which allows other companies to make lenses for the system, but those manufacturers don’t have insight into the architecture of the AF system in the camera, which is key in getting the 30fps performance. FPS is rated at 30/20/15 depending on the capabilities of the lens motor system as those are the maximum possible rates for the combination of motor and communications. That’s why older Sony lenses are among those at 15fps, when they were made 30fps wasn’t a thing yet. One of the benefits of being Sony is that their lens and body development work together so they can reach a technology that enables a performance threshold at the same time. Newer Sony lenses can reach 30fps because they were designed knowing the Alpha 1 was coming. Tamron and Sigma do not have that insight. This is also why you can turn any lens to manual focus and get 30fps out of it on the Alpha 1. The FPS is a function of the mechanical, computational and communications capabilities of the body and lens.

@@GK-mt6qx A9 and A9 II manual xD

I believe if using a7, difficult to notice the difference in sharpness. 135mm is noticably sharper than 70-180mm tamron on much smaller pixels in a7r

I own the 135 gm nothing compares to it. In a class of its own.

Eric, the 135mm F1.8 is sharper than the 70-200mm f2.8 zoom under many circumstances. But, it won't give you the reach you need for sports photography. If you were doing portraits and general photography, the 135mm would be grand, but for sports, not so much.

Am not very good at framing and tracking fast moving objects. So 135mm GM is perfect for my hobby on a7Riv where I could always crop in post. I’ve rent GM II but am not so impressed on the sharpness - i guess passed 180mm all zoom lens gonna suffered a bit on color fringing

Remember folks (for those in the US at least): Black Friday is now less than a month away. Might wanna wait and see...

@@Tinfoilnation they're not gonna discount a brand new lens on BF..

that's like comparing hammers to drills

@kulmmii @kulmmii i dont have the preproduction lense like they do so i asked the question. You can compare anything.(i know you mean quality of primes ve zooms, but not everyone shoots wide open at 1.2, 1.4, and 1.8 all the time, and not everyone believes in zooming with feet because the background changes) *not always compression but other factors as well. Not everyone is the same with events vs everyday street and landscape/architecture shooting from a distance. I asked because i like the wierd quirks of certain lenses and if they can do more tests to uncover more before i make a decision to buy this or a longer telephoto...bokeh isnt everything but it is a perk.

Yeah, agreed. $2,000 US was the standard price for 70-200 f2.8 pro lenses when we started pro photography, and THAT felt like an impossible investment. I don't know how new professionals get started nowadays.

@@TonyAndChelsea Didn't your first category on price answer that question?

@@TonyAndChelsea Professional photographers aren't the main target market - it's wealthy enthusiasts who buy the majority of high end lenses.

@@richrollin4867 true, majority of photographers are lower middle class due to sometimes a lack of better career choice and making way less money compared to, say, an entry level analyst working in Silicon Valley. The target of this lens is for wealthy enthusiasts but using professional photographers (RU-vidrs especially) as marketing tools to promote the product.

@@jylemurian Plus, most professional photographers can continue to do a perfectly good job without continuously upgrading equipment.

Even the mark i drop in price, the Tamron is still the better option.

One can always move a little closer or farther away.

yes

What are the specs? Same as leaked?

@@gordonyz4 same as leaked (price unannounced). The only surprising thing is a7iii had better ibis

lol I saw 1.30min

We don't accept free money or gear from manufacturers but yeah we get loaners and review them. It's the only way to publish timely reviews.