Sony Burano - Hands on thoughts & impressions 

You're right. The camera is nice but they are charging $18,000 more than FX6 to have a similar image, but in 8K with a better codec. I think Burano should have been priced between $12 and $16K. $25K is overpriced.

This is all natural light pretty much. Just one softbox keylight on the artist to make it more flattering on her. And one small hard light when in the bar to emphasis the natural light from the window, just because it was nice but wasn't quite hitting the area we wanted by the pumps. Really glad you liked the footage though!

FX3 is a great camera for weddings. I used to use the original A7s back when I filmed them (a while ago now!). I think I would miss the EVF though so would probably choose the A7s III over the FX3 for that kind of work now.

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Look around 08:37, everything looks fine in the camera movement/shaking. The whole read out speed discussion is blown up.

I know its the current trending topic, but I wouldn't call it a dealbreaker. It's considerably faster than the FX9 for example. Is it disappointing? Yes, I was hoping it would be more like 12-15ms. Does it render the camera useless now? Absolutely not. The FX9 has been widely used across the industry and this is faster. The FX6, A7s III & FX3 have always had an exceptionally fast read out speed because of their native 4K 12MP sensor. The higher the resolution goes the more rolling shutter you are going to see.

True, but the Venice 2 managed to have 3.2ms in 8.2K mode. So it is possible to have good rolling shutter at higher resolution, especially coming from the same camera manufacturer that was able to achieve that lower ms count. As an owner of multiple FX6s and FX3s (and former F55 owner), I had high hopes for the BURANO. But based on what I’ve seen for the price point, this is a hard pass.

​@carlyates2487 But for $25,000 I think ot should be better

@@SuperPhunThyme100 exactly, the camera costs 25K.

Yes, there is a surprising difference between the brands there isn't there!

Sony historically has had a foothold in broadcast television and ENG, so I think they lean more towards that form factor, whereas Canon's background being primarily in photography, will tend to lean more towards the handheld form factor.

Surf videos would be great to see! I’d love to see those if you are able to share a link once you’ve used the camera for some?

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I tested the Burano IBIS at a demo event and it's sticky, like the A7SIII. It looks amateurish.

I am curious as to what people are seeing when they say the image is a "massive step up" over the FX6 and FX9. I'm just not seeing much difference from everything I've seen shot with the camera thus far. It looks closer to A1 footage than Venice in most examples I've seen.

Sony haven’t really given any cameras with open gate recording out side of the Venice yet have they? Seems a shame as their smaller cameras would be fantastic for anamorphic. I also love it for social media cropping / delivery

I mean if you want to win today yoyu need to throw in the kitchen sing... and in many ways they do with the Burano... they made a great camera.. But... I am (Like many others) in the situation that the industry is changing... you need to film in RAW on rented RED cameras one day, together with a big crew... Interviews in a medical LAB another day, and then small snippets for instagram the next day.. sad but true. Open gate is possible with full frame Panasonic cameras that cost close to nothing.. Im looking forward to see what Nikon is gonna do with their new RED deal, and how Canon will answer. They have been awfully quiet in a long time, Canon that is. (Im the happy owner of 2x C70, a R5C and an R3 camera from canon). @@carlyates2487

@@carlyates2487unfortunately they continue to ignore the massive use for 4:3/3:2 outside of anamorphic and I told them that right from a private launch event for the FX9 back in the day. It’s so incredibly disappointing when even on this camera they seemingly say get a Venice for that when the social media use can never budget a Venice and even a Burano would be hard to sell.

Remember this is graded. And then remember that this is graded by me… not a pro colourist

@@carlyates2487 Don't mean to direct that towards your work! I felt the same with the CVP clips, pretty much anything I've seen from the camera. I'm sure it's very flexible in post but not tickling me in the right places

You're right. The skin tones on Burano are pinkish like FX6. But if you look at the footage shot with the Sony lens, the color is a little better. The camera does render skin in a pinkish tone, but those godawful Nisi Athena lenses are helping contribute to that plastic looking image and strange looking skin tones in the XOCN footage. I hate those Athenas. I got brainwashed with the reviews and bought a set, only to be terribly disappointed with the image. I hated the lenses so much that I returned and took a 15% restocking fee hit.

Glad you liked the footage. Thanks for watching. Where do you think it should be priced? Which cameras would you use as reference?

Agreed. In addition, this appears to use the same 8.6K sensor from the A1, and is not the same sensor from the Venice line; and the footage coming from the BURANO looks more in line with that camera (the A1), as well as the FX6 / FX9, than anything you’d get from the Venice line; it doesn’t have that Venice “look” unfortunately. That said, it’s way overpriced; should be priced around $12k USD max. Sure, the imagine quality coming from an 8.6K sensor over 4K sensor will be sharper, but I don’t think it’s necessary “better”; the dynamic range appears to be the same between the two lines of cameras, and CVP recently came out and said the rolling shutter was almost 17-18ms, whereas the FX3 / FX9 is around 8ms, and the Venice 2 around 3.3ms. 17-18ms is appalling for a $25k camera. If users don’t need 8K, they’re better off with a FX6 paired with a Ninja V+ to get the most out of that system, for 1/4 the price.

I think around 15-17K would be fair. I think the mid range industry has been trending towards the 10k-15k range over the past 10 or so years since the F5 and 55 came out. 25K is just a hair too much in the modern market. ​@@carlyates2487

​​@carlyates2487 It feels like the natural evolution/successor to the FX9, and many of us FX9 users were hoping for a new/updated "FX9" model in the 10-15k price range, especially considering the FX9 was left out of the announced firmware updates for the FX30, FX3, and FX6 back in January. But at 25,000, people in that very popular $15ishK price range have been priced out, and dont have a new alternative to go to. I mean, I'm pretty sure the sensor in the Burano is from the A1, and according to Alister Chapman, the Burano borrows a lot of processing from the FX6, so in essence, it feels more like a modern FX9 than a $25,000 CineAlta. What the FX9 was to the FS7, is what the Burano should be to the FX9.

The BMCC 6K 's rolling shutter problems are in its 3:2 open gate mode, which according to CineD is 25ms... Thats how the camera got its reputation for bad rolling shutter. Not the 17:9 mode which is 18.6ms

The Burano’s rolling shutter is 17-18ms… pretty bad for a $25k USD camera.

So much ado about the rolling shutter smacks of FOMO. Clearly this camera works quite nicely in most applications.

I would say it’s average when in its 8.6K full frame mode. Which is a disappointment as in this category I would hope it would be better than that. However it goes down as you crop in, and the camera does plenty that is well above average and justifies its price tag.

@@carlyates2487 Thank you

Same can be said for the venice too. They are both sony's

​​@Journeywiththehintis Doesn't quite have that Venice look IMO. Looks most like Sony A1 footage.

@@SuperPhunThyme100 well I spoke to a Sony rep and guess what? He said that the Burano uses the A1 sensor. Go figure.

Yeah, I figured as much.​@@sa.t.2507

@@Journeywiththehintis Not true. Venice renders an organic, filmic looking image similar to Alexa LF. The Burano looks like video.

No problem! Glad you found it useful and thanks for the nice comment.

Agreed, we will try and film one at some point.

What a lovely comment! Thanks very much

Probably because Burano-specific shoulder pads, cages, etc. aren't available yet. And both CVP and ProAV are businesses who will want to sell them(!)

Exactly, they aren’t ready yet really and we haven’t quite picked which one to recommend to customers. Hoping to get several in the same place at the same time at some point to compare

The industry moves fast! This will be a relevant camera for quite a while though

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Ah fantastic! You are not far from ProAV then!

@@carlyates2487 In future I'll save on the delivery and come and pick my camera gear in person! I'm actually going to be filming in Woodoak in the spring: I did a massive double take when I saw it on the Burano impressions!

@@melankolikfilms Of course! Come on in anytime. Ah excellent, what are you doing there?

@@carlyates2487 Shooting some interviews and GVs, not unlike what you did, but more Blackmagic and less Sony!

Exactly! Thanks for watching