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Sony F828 (RGBE Super CCD Sensor)
Exploring the color science of Sony's most unique camera from 2003. The only camera ever made with an RGBE Super CCD Sensor.
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@gregorymessimer8869
@gregorymessimer8869 2 года назад
You can also 'remove' the internal UV/IR filter externally with a magnet to get full-spectrum (or ultraviolet or infrared with appropriate filters) without permanently modifying the camera! The focus is a bit wonky, but it is definitely usable.
@matthewjohnson1891
@matthewjohnson1891 2 года назад
Just tried this. Really coil.
@shabanafzal9440
@shabanafzal9440 Год назад
I bought this camera in 2004 for about £700 and I have used it ever since, Its 8 mega pixel I know and that's not much today but who cares if your only going to view on PC or the tv. I did print some photos of my daughter on 6x4 inch and that was more than enough. The quality of this camera is truly amazing. The colour is fantastic and the detail is rich. The zoom is great and the digital zoom amazed me. I thought there would be noise because that's how it appears on the screen but when previewed its so good. I will never sell this camera and absolutely love it.
@zblsk
@zblsk Год назад
WOW! That was my first "serious" digital camera back in the days before switching to DSLR. So far the best video about F828, hope that you`ll continue to upload new content)
@no15minutecities
@no15minutecities Год назад
you must have bucket loads of cash..........
@timlaunyc
@timlaunyc 2 года назад
EDIT: A short time later CMOS sensors started to outpace CCD sensors. They were cheaper and easier to make, though the first CMOS sensors weren't great by comparison. The megapixel race would be very slow and different if cameras continued using CCD sensors. The 505v was my first big-boy camera back then, and I upgraded to the 717. By the time the 828 came out, I was looking for a DSLR, which I got when the Canon 20D came out. Years later, I went back to Sony with the a77, and then the A7 series. It was hard to imagine that Sony would buy Minolta's camera line a few years after this camera came out.
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
There was a lot of exiting cameras around that time frame!
@GrillSergeant
@GrillSergeant 2 года назад
Can this video get any more epic!? See you at the top very very soon. 🔥
@NowHearThis-hw7xh
@NowHearThis-hw7xh 5 месяцев назад
The RGBE color filter array is rather brilliant. There is always an inherent problem with having twice as many Green pixels over the Red or Blue. Green, while it is efficient in doubling as a luminance layer, is still overrepresented and the accuracy of the other two colors can be difficult to properly replicate. Emerald (Cyan) is a genius way to solve this issue, as it is half Blue and half Green and also in negative Red can be calculated and distributed back into all three channels properly, on top of that, it has a higher luminance level than Green, so you can achieve greater dynamic range and lower noise levels. Sony really ought to bring this back.
@jaymikevillanueva1212
@jaymikevillanueva1212 2 года назад
Dude, I have an F-828 as well! Bought it at the end of last year as an impulse online buy off Amazon. This baby is truly a marvel of camera design and surprisingly delivers sharp images that is so good, you wouldn't notice it's from what is today, a dinosaur digital camera. Will have to try the "real" image mode a little more then compare to standard mode, though. Spring and summer are about kick in and it'll be a good time to bring out the old girl for a walk soon!
@LTPottenger
@LTPottenger Год назад
Does the f828 do video at all?
@isaiasprestes9759
@isaiasprestes9759 10 месяцев назад
Great video! Can you please share the Image Data Converter 1.0. Sony defunct this software. :(
@BlastmanDictionary
@BlastmanDictionary Год назад
I own a couple of F828 in the past, they are amazing cameras along with f505 F515 and even sony r1. I am a collector and possess all the legendary 8mp above including canon pro1.
@thelemon5069
@thelemon5069 Год назад
707 717
@NorthWolfPhotography
@NorthWolfPhotography Год назад
I own three of the 8mp bridge cameras mentioned in this review: This Camera (the f828), the Canon Powershot Pro1 and the Minolta DiMage A2. A lot of reviewers tout how great the Pro 1 is and IMO it doesn't hold a candle to the f828. The AF is slow, and the mechanical zoom vs motor driven zoom on the f828 is so much faster and smoother then how janky the zoom on the Pro 1 is. The lens on the f828 has a lot less Chromatic aberration to deal with as well. In spite of Canon claiming the Pro 1 had an "L" series lens I found the lens on the f828 to be overall a lot sharper with less distortion. The downside to all three as you mention is that they are laggy to use especially if trying to take photos in RAW format. But if I had to pick one camera from this year to shoot that wasn't a DSLR (as the Canon Rebel also came out in 2003) this would be my top pick.
@RonnelCuison
@RonnelCuison Год назад
Started my photography career which flourished into video production. Sony F828 gave me so much.
@robstammers7149
@robstammers7149 2 года назад
I have a mint F828, and I love handling it and using it, it's a unique camera, to me it's a work of engineering art in itself, and yes the images it produces are just so good, slow to use, but that stops you rushing, dare I say, I'm going to anyway, the F828 is an artisan camera that demands you to think before hitting the shutter button, great video, loved watching, many thanks.
@fstarkb
@fstarkb 2 года назад
Nice video! Love the idea of this channel: good pictures come, first, from the photographer and, then, from the camera itself, but, at the same time, you embrace the awe behind the technology of this older and beloved cameras. I already subscribed!
@Anonymous-iw4hx
@Anonymous-iw4hx 7 месяцев назад
still waiting for IT to get real
@PaulWilkinson
@PaulWilkinson 2 года назад
I've only read good things about this camera and it's on my wish list. The added bonus of this camera is that you can change it to full spectrum IR with just a magnet. Looking forward to the next videos 👍
@aeyde
@aeyde Год назад
just bought it for $30
@wkyt9324
@wkyt9324 Год назад
Need CCD video cameras. CMOS sucks
@zero123824
@zero123824 2 года назад
Thank for sharing your review. I just bought F828 3 month ago and very satisfied with the image color. Thought the raw saving speed is very slow and image quality is a little bit soft. But its a 2004 camera! Im very happy buying this camera.
@photomaker4502
@photomaker4502 Год назад
Shooting in "real" mode in jpeg actually looks flat. I find shooting this camera in jpeg + standard with contrast and saturation boosted gives a more pleasing result.
@garoldcarlisle5637
@garoldcarlisle5637 Год назад
Have you followed up with the comparisons to the other 8 MP cameras?
@MattParson
@MattParson Год назад
I’ve been shooting with the Olympus. I have many vids on the way
@aliarenas6856
@aliarenas6856 2 года назад
The video is informative, but PLEASE turn down the background music, all I hear is the low budget suspense movie soundtrack.
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
You have to listen with Dolby Digital full spectrum spatial audio devices…
@gregorymessimer5728
@gregorymessimer5728 2 года назад
Could you make that software available on Internet Archive?
@locpeosvlog4442
@locpeosvlog4442 9 месяцев назад
What CF card can i use on this camera ?
@Anonymous-iw4hx
@Anonymous-iw4hx 7 месяцев назад
none
@ittoakimbo
@ittoakimbo 2 года назад
Sony needs to bring out new prosumer, or mirrorless DSLR, with swivel body cámaras… they were fun versatile, still have my DSC-F717
@pwolkowicki
@pwolkowicki Год назад
What about RGBW sensor from Kodak? I heard an announcement, but I had never seen it in a working, sold camera.
@kristinawilton-mu8mf
@kristinawilton-mu8mf Год назад
I have this camera and I am trying to get the images and videos onto my iPhone. I managed to get them onto my asus laptop but can’t get them any closer to my iPhone 😩
@liaustria7790
@liaustria7790 2 года назад
one of the sharpest camera i own to this day
@BowenAubrey-v9b
@BowenAubrey-v9b 19 дней назад
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@oltiking7898
@oltiking7898 2 года назад
I have this camera, but i dont know how to use it good😢
@knnry
@knnry 4 дня назад
abandoned because is slow and costs as few cmos
@arnewoodman
@arnewoodman 2 года назад
If camera manufacturers have learnt anything in the past 20 years, its that photographers are a very conservative bunch. Maybe at times with good reason, 50 or more years of camera ergonomic design came to a consensus on what was best, so the successful DSLR and mirrorless bodies closely resemble their film ancestors. But the sensor technology inside can be radical, with Sony, Foveon and Fujifilm all trying to improve on the Bayer mosaic. But its a bit like the PC/Microsoft story: Bayer was first to market and became dominant, others - even if better - struggle to be more than single brand alternatives.
@terravita1600
@terravita1600 2 года назад
Great Video!!!
@delrcr05
@delrcr05 2 года назад
In first 2k of subs. Bet that'll be significant soon. Nice edit
@arseniyshapurov
@arseniyshapurov 2 года назад
I wish that unique handling and tilt option for my GFX
@Emulives
@Emulives Год назад
SO SLOW CAMERA. The first digital camera I purchase. When I shoot an anniversary ...I saw its was impossible..to shoot action... Then I change to Canon Rebel ...the first Rebel back then....My first DSLR.
@MattParson
@MattParson Год назад
When shooting raw with this camera it’s painfully slow…
@Emulives
@Emulives Год назад
@@MattParson but its a really nice body overall ... Will be great if sony have one upgraded version today with all the new features , speed , eye tracking.
@dummatube
@dummatube Год назад
Why is there no ISO colour chart in your test scene??? Duh!😮
@MattParson
@MattParson Год назад
“ISO colour chart? Where we’re going, We don’t need ISO colour charts.” - Dr. Emmett Brown
@dct124
@dct124 2 года назад
Reminds me of my NikonD200. The Emerald color might be a marketing gimmick. Mode 1 & Mode 3 are your standard profiles. Mode 2 is for heavy post edit; AdobeRGB only. Mode 1 & Mode 3 can use sRGB and AdobeRGB. Mode 1 is for people. Mode 3 is for landscape and things. Mode 3 also looks like AdobeRGB just in the sRGB color profile. Mode 3 is the equivalent of the REAL mode in that camera. It's very useful for street and everyday shooting. Just the jpgs give you a ton of latitude, even beyond many current cameras. I tested my D200 vs a Z6 & Z50, the D200 won imo. New cameras have better high iso, high resolution and video. Older cameras have better IQ, color seperation and sensor speed.
@neilrobinson5115
@neilrobinson5115 Год назад
I have one of these in mint condition,also a R-1,f717,and f707,I’ve got a h-1 coming today that I got from eBay,I love the cybeshot range of cameras
@MattParson
@MattParson Год назад
They need to bring back these unique body designs!
@neilrobinson5115
@neilrobinson5115 Год назад
@@MattParson I wish they would too,the silver cybershots were nice,the high ends were black ie R1,F828 but the H series in silver were especially nice looking
@HologramJones
@HologramJones Год назад
Even though I liked this camera, the Dimage A1 was 5MP but way more of a photographer's tool
@REFRAIN1985
@REFRAIN1985 2 года назад
4:40 lol boba fett cyclee
@ghosti8101
@ghosti8101 Год назад
Hey there, ihave this camera but idk why when i start it its make the intro but it ends up stuck on a black screen with the word "access" in the middle, i can hear sound effects when i move with the arrows but thats it
@moviebod
@moviebod Год назад
More content please! I have just got an F828 and would love to see how it compares.
@garethwilliams976
@garethwilliams976 Год назад
I bought one of the first ones shipped to the UK and really liked the design and lens. I found the small sensor rather noisy above ISO200 and specular highlights showed colourful artefacts,. Traded it in for an R1 which was a better camera with an APS-C sensor capable of truly fine image quality. Great review.
@valthebest_6342
@valthebest_6342 8 месяцев назад
This was my first camera and also my favorite one. I love the colors and the quality of the immagine. I miss it a lot🥲.
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss
@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss 2 года назад
Awesome review, haha. The music made it feel like a psychological drama film… haha great work. Just picked up this camera, can’t wait to try it!
@charlesreidy2765
@charlesreidy2765 Год назад
The images could be a bit noisy, but I travelled all over the world with this camera, and took some of my best photos with it-photos that would have required carrying several lenses and an SLR. The resolution is amazing.
@RISCGames
@RISCGames 2 года назад
Well don't leave me hanging or anything lol....
@josdenis3684
@josdenis3684 4 месяца назад
What’s the use of this horrible Muzak?
@MattParson
@MattParson 4 месяца назад
Its to keep you away from the channel…
@josdenis3684
@josdenis3684 4 месяца назад
@@MattParson ah ok, I see. And you succeeded!
@FitriShukri
@FitriShukri Год назад
The design of the camera still look contemporary 20 years later
@anascancerjourney9922
@anascancerjourney9922 Год назад
I have one for sale with lots of accessories! Reply if you're interested.
@MichaelSeneschal
@MichaelSeneschal 2 года назад
Man, so good. What a great video, thanks for making it.
@SlavaVeres
@SlavaVeres 2 года назад
👍 Awesome videos! 😍 Keep going!
@luis-py8lb
@luis-py8lb 2 года назад
De que año es ese modelo de cámara?
@docchocobo
@docchocobo 2 года назад
I think rawtherapee can actually open those files if I remember right. Also, in a program called "dark table", there may be support. That's in Linux though. Microsoft also made available raw image support codecs not to long ago. I was pulling raw images out of the camera, but they had a redish tinge to them. Had to correct for that in post.
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
Yeah each raw converter tends to output slightly different color compared to the cameras internal jpeg engine.
@docchocobo
@docchocobo 2 года назад
@@MattParson Hey just a quick question. Is your camera able to read from the CF slot? I had to find a microSD to memory stick converter to make mine work. It does not recognize any CF I put in it, no matter what I try. It kind of does for a couple of mine, but will not format them, even the older smaller ones I have. I mean, I have resolved it with the converter, but I have a TON of CF's from other cameras and some I ordered from Amazon. I even checked the slot for bent or missing pins and everything looks proper. Wow, that actually got pretty long eh? :)
@Skymeter
@Skymeter 2 года назад
Great video.
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@theadushow
@theadushow 2 года назад
Beautiful!
@lorenzosuarez1094
@lorenzosuarez1094 2 года назад
What mode are you using to test the cameras?
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
For the Sony F828 I found the “REAL” mode to have better colors over the “Standard”.
@zero123824
@zero123824 2 года назад
By the way, will you try Sigma foveon sensor camera? It is another real color sensor and good image quality.
@MattParson
@MattParson 2 года назад
Yes I have foveon videos on the way!
@no15minutecities
@no15minutecities Год назад
YAWN..........somebody has all his toys
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 Год назад
Okay the colors do look good butbit aint messing with Olympus or Pentax ccd stuff or even Nikon and Canon
@MattParson
@MattParson Год назад
I much prefer the Olympus Kodak sensor cameras like the E-1… I would like to see these older CCD sensors make a comeback!
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 Год назад
@@MattParson Olympus is my favorite by far although Pentax might be slightly better but theyre neck and neck
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