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I'm sure you've had someone tell you that their camera is better than yours. Beyond normal spec wars, the debate often comes down to the mystical brand "color science". Why do images out of one camera look different from another? I'm doing a flyover view of the most common factors into what makes an image look the way it does. I use three digital cameras that use the exact same Sony sensor to try and shed some light on the secret sauce brands put into cameras.
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@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Which camera took which picture? In order from left to right: Samsung Pro815, Sony F828, Nikon 8400
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto Год назад
I liked the picture better in this order, Samsung, Nikon then Sony
@szabocsaba3453
@szabocsaba3453 7 месяцев назад
Great content. Why dont you make a series on super ccd Fuji S Pro series cameras? Those are lovely and interesting. And f mount.
@jorgebarrantes1386
@jorgebarrantes1386 5 месяцев назад
Left Nikon Center samsung right sony
@jimzielinski946
@jimzielinski946 Год назад
When I was a student in the 70's and 80's, people would walk up to me offering photo tips. They meant well but I got tired of being bothered. I had the suspicion that the Minolta brand name was calling them in as I had to be poor and in need of help. On a lark, I taped over all the brand identifiers of all my equipment. I noticed that when people got close enough to notice they couldn't ID my equipment they would back off and walk away.
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor Год назад
But Minolta lenses are great! I buyed 5 Rokkor lenses and I love them
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Interesting experiment. In a similar vein, you can buy metal red circle Leica stickers to put on any camera. I may try that 😁
@jimzielinski946
@jimzielinski946 Год назад
@@snappiness I've met camera snobs over the years who never heard of Leica, or Zeiss,etc. They usually recognize canon and Nikon. I'd go with a fake Nikon sticker!
@jimzielinski946
@jimzielinski946 Год назад
@@amermeleitor my favorite Minolta lens of the era was the 45 f2. That thing was razer sharp. After over studying everything, I eventually upgraded to Pentax 6x7 for almost the whole of the film era - no regrets.
@AndrewSowerby
@AndrewSowerby Год назад
Minolta made some amazing cameras and lenses and they were often trailblazing new features. The X-300 / X-500 / X-700 were some of my favourite SLRs ever!
@rickweaver2111
@rickweaver2111 Год назад
Photographer goes to a dinner party. Hostess greets him at the door and says, “Oh you’re the photographer. You take such beautiful pictures, what camera do you use?” Photographer smiles politely. At the end of the evening the Photographer thanks the hostess and compliments her on the delicious dinner. Then he asks her, “what oven do you use?”.
@lonesome3958
@lonesome3958 6 месяцев назад
Me under the Shower 3 hours later
@glorphindale
@glorphindale Год назад
"I liked the food you've prepared. What brand of pan did you use?"
@sedativelimit
@sedativelimit Год назад
I cooked it on a stone under the sunlight and heated it up with the fire i had to make by rubbing sticks for hours.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
This is as good an analogy as any. Also, consider me a "pan enthusiast" xD
@gavinjenkins899
@gavinjenkins899 7 месяцев назад
I can't think of any dish that literally cannot physically be made by a normal budget pan. That is most definitely not true for photos. A cheap 15-85mm f/4.5 kit lens physically cannot take a super shallow depth of field, highly compressed perspective portrait. It does not matter how good you are, it cannot, period. Nor can it on a micro 4/3 sensor as well as being f/4.5 take photos in a dark concert venue without absurd levels of noise. If that's your gear, you CANNOT shoot that concert. I don't care if you're Ansel Adams' genetically engineered hyper clone, you can't.
@glorphindale
@glorphindale 7 месяцев назад
@@gavinjenkins899 99% of good photographs are good because of their composition, lighting, subject, not because it was made with Leica. If the only good thing about a portrait is a shallow depth of field - it is not a good portrait.
@gavinjenkins899
@gavinjenkins899 7 месяцев назад
@@glorphindale Please re-read my comment and notice that at no point did I say anything about a Leica. I did however give two simple, common examples of things that are LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE with bad gear, no matter how good of a photographer you are. You obviously had no rational counter to either of them, which is why you had to make up some fake nonsense out of nowhere to pretend to shoot down instead. At least bow out with some dignity.
@samuelschwager
@samuelschwager Год назад
I think we are at a point where most modern cameras are good enough. If the picture is sharp, well exposed and has enough megapixels for your needs you're golden. Many things like colors or framing can be fixed in post.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Yep! You can make any image look like it was taken on pretty much any other camera. As much as I hate to admit that as someone who loves to tinker with various cameras 😁
@thepirateshoots
@thepirateshoots Год назад
And everything of 12 or more Mpix is enough!
@bardofhighrenown
@bardofhighrenown Год назад
@@thepirateshoots I think this has been retroactively true for a long time now due to people mostly sharing photos on social media. When I tried to upload my full X-T3 (26.1MP) files to Instagram, it rejects them. You have to scale them down or crop them. Even then, they get very compressed once they get sent to the severs and then uploaded to your profile. I firmly believe anything over 12MP is going to be basically indistinguishable on social media and I bet no one would notice if you shot on a 6MP sensor. People are generally very surprised to know that 4k (UHD) is "only" 8MP, which means the average person don't even have an 8MP monitor. I just shoot the cameras that I find enjoyable megapixel count has slowly fallen to near the bottom of my list of things to consider when buying a camera.
@tosvus
@tosvus Год назад
Definitely true, though while I always shoot RAW for the flexibility, if the camera supports it, I will do RAW+JPG, and I do care how easy it is to just take a jpg and publish or print vs having to go into lightroom and tweak a bunch. (Which is why I am addicted to buying older cameras, mostly though with CCD as for daytime (and that is an important note lol) shooting, they get closer to what I like. I also have a fantastic Panasonic S1R that is 42MP and tack sharp, but I don't always want that :)
@karikaru
@karikaru Год назад
If you go look on 500px at the 5d mk I or II and sort by editors picks there's photos that are better than anything I'm likely to ever produce even if I was handed an a7RV. In fact, I think newer cameras have made some bad photographers. I see popular RU-vidrs who do "street portraits" they literally just find an attractive girl on the street, set their 50 1.4 to wide open and use eye AF and snap a photo with little or no posing or direction or concern for lighting. Then they throw an ugly and totally inappropriate preset on it and for some reason people enjoy watching this? Biggest mistake new photographers make is thinking it's about capturing the light with the best equipment possible where pro photographers know it's far more important to craft or use the light to make the image and the camera is simply the last step in grabbing the scene you've created
@Soundwave857
@Soundwave857 Год назад
Taking great pics on old cameras is more impressive to me than using the latest ones
@800013890
@800013890 Год назад
“Look at your camera, there’s a good chance Sony made its sensor” Looks at my film camera. “I knew it”
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@Riccardo_Mori
@Riccardo_Mori Год назад
I want to say something a little off-topic, but I feel you should know: thank you for respecting my time as a viewer by keeping this and other videos on the shorter side without being superficial. So many prominent photography RU-vid channels would have taken this topic and made it into a frickin 45-minute documentary. And it's quite likely I would have skipped it entirely. Cheers, and keep up the good work! //Rick
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Thanks, Rick. I still have a long way to go to get better at making videos/telling stories but I do try. :)
@Riccardo_Mori
@Riccardo_Mori Год назад
@@snappiness Don't be too hard on yourself. I think you're doing great!
@Localtraveler2376
@Localtraveler2376 Год назад
This is a big reason why I wish Samsung had stuck in the camera game. They make sensors and could have mixed things up quite a bit. The more companions you have involved the better competition and usually that means more advancements.
@David_Quinn_Photography
@David_Quinn_Photography Год назад
even if they stuck with the budget cameras like your fixed lens point and shoots or even made 3rd party lenses that would be amazing, they make awesome storage devices as it is now imagine a lens for you EF mount Canon
@sdhute
@sdhute Год назад
Starting to dive into older cameras myself. A lot of older lenses have interesting personalities.
@OnlyCitrus
@OnlyCitrus Год назад
Beating a Sony camera in color science is like recruit level difficulty
@musa7606
@musa7606 Год назад
I have the Sony A7S but I don't think I'd tell you I have it for superior colors. To me its a versatile beast, able to mount lots of vintage lenses easily, shoots clean at ISO 3200, and is a relatively small form factor. I'm even running a Kipon focal reducer on it, giving it 535 medium format equivalency.
@spidermann5000
@spidermann5000 Год назад
i think thats the benefit of FE mount, you can throw almost everything on it. I just wont because i fear LBA kicking in if i add another adapter😅
@christopherbgriffith
@christopherbgriffith Год назад
I sold it because I needed to trim down my collection and I had the least lenses for it, but the K-1 is a *fantastic* camera. The SOOC colors are beautiful, with blues and reds being especially punchy and lovely. The grip is one of my all-time faves and the body is so rugged. I still have minor regrets about selling it, but I hope it ended up with someone who appreciates it. Anyone who tells someone else they have a "bad camera" is just an idiot and an a-hole. End of story.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
I do love the ergo a lot on the K-1. And my K-3 :)
@Xitrun
@Xitrun Год назад
Absolutely stupid point to judje someone's camera. It's just a tool. But: Pentax K1 is a unique camera, unsurpassed in convenience, output colors, design, quality of materials
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Haha, exactly!
@matthieuzglurg6015
@matthieuzglurg6015 Год назад
Ha ! Gottem ! Currently shooting with a Nikon D700 that had its sensor made by Panasonic (and was pretty much the last Panasonic sensor to ever go into a Nikon camera before they switched to Sony) Also, it is quite funny to see how camera sensors are made and developped. Typically, pretty much all the sensor out of Nikon latest cameras (so the 24MP sensor out of the Z6 line, the 45MP sensor out of the Z7 / D850 and the Z9 45MP stacked sensor) are designed by Nikon, and made by Sony Semiconductors. But those are not Sony designs at all like it used to be (the same sensor being put in a lot of cameras, like for example, the A7/D600 sensor were almost the same model, and the sensor in D800/A7R/K1 were also basically the same sensors that camera makers just ended up picking off Sony's catalogue) The "we have a special sensor" thing really kicked off though, and it seems that every brand is really pushing the fact that they designed their own sensor and that their sensors are diffrerent from the others. Nikon have their own designs, I can't think of any camera that they sell that has a common sensor with a camera from Sony (except maybe on the low en APS-C stuff, where they didn't bother to invest much developing time), Fujifilm also use their own designs and even went as far a using different color filters array with X-Trans (interestingly, Sony made it but never used it in their own APS-C cameras, and the 26MP BSI sensor that was introduced in the X-T3 ended up in the Pixii camera, just with a standard Bayer filter. There was doubts that the FX30 sensor could have been just that same sensor, but it appears to be different on many things... maybe Sony kept their best sensor for themselves?). Canon are perfectly able to produce BSI sensors that have no downsides at all compared to FSI, yet they stubbornly only make FSI sensors even in their high end cameras (their hand was forced for the R3, FSI is incompatible with a stacked chip) But beyond the sensor, we often forget one very important thing that is equally important as the sensor itself : the processor ! Without the processor to process the RAW data from the sensor, you wouldn't be able to have an image in the first place. The sensor gives numbers, the processor gives an image out of those numbers. And as far as I know, each brand is making their own processor, that processes images differently. On top of that, each brand have their "color science" that they use in their processors and make for example a Nikon camera RAW file have a substantially different RAW file than a Sony, even though the sensor is the same : the camera's processor didn't interpret the colors the same way. And theres, as you said the tiny differences in white balance sensors etc. But for people that shoot RAW, that's not really a concern
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Fantastic comment and explanations, thanks for adding that!
@user-kcrpine
@user-kcrpine Год назад
Nikon was forced to use their own design after Sony refused to sell theirs off the shelf.
@Moonstone-Redux
@Moonstone-Redux Год назад
Nikon D7000 actually has the same sensor that the Fujifilm X-Pro1 has, just different colour array. Made for an interesting competition because I used a D7000 while my brother uses an X-Pro1. Now I know I used to lust over the X-Pro1 when it came out, but now that I found out that the Gen 1 X-Trans cameras were infamous for being sluggish, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed using it as much as I had for my D7000 since I am a run and gun photographer. Later ditched the entire Nikon DX system when I finally found an X-T2 for a good price.
@rogerbradbury9713
@rogerbradbury9713 Год назад
I have two cameras with the same Sony sensor. One is a Sony, one is a Pentax. I've had the Sony for about three years but I've been shooting Pentax DSLR for about 13 years. I much prefer the Pentax colours. Last year I talked to another photographer who has always shot with Canon, and he loves their colours. Verdict: It's what you are used to. Mostly. But there's also what you like to shoot, the sort of person you are, the photos you've seen that have influenced you. Nothing wrong with the colours from my Sony, mind.
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor Год назад
I don't know. Even shooting Sony I like Canon and Nikon colors the most. Canon RAW is easier to edit, the pleasant colors are like embedded in the RAW. Nikon RAW is more "raw" than Sony and Canon ones and have more latitude to stand more edition. It take more time to edit Sony pictures than Canon ones in my case. But Sony have other practical advantages. I'm used to Sony, but like Canon and Nikon the most, because different reasons
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
There's definitely a bias for what we're most used to. That's a good point.
@tosvus
@tosvus Год назад
@@snappiness Sony is pretty good with colors now, but just when they started with CMOS and for a few years, it was the most uninspiring colors for me at least.
@user-kcrpine
@user-kcrpine Год назад
Sony colors are much improved in more recent models. Still, do it right and shoot film.
@nimmord.12
@nimmord.12 Год назад
Last year a random photographer asked me what camera I was using and when I told him I was using a Pentax K-3 all he said was “oh.” And then proceeds to say that he is using the newest entry grade dslr from some random well known brand with a smile. Same thing happened to my Fuji. Lol! In my place not a lot of people ask what brand of camera I am using, they just ask me to take a photo of then and their family only because they saw me carrying a camera. :)
@christianlainesse4281
@christianlainesse4281 Год назад
"What camera did you use?" "I don't remember, I own and use cameras and lenses from pretty much all the manufacturers, and sometimes I mix and match gear."
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Haha, this is the truth 😁
@Durio_zibethinus
@Durio_zibethinus Год назад
"oh, and I like adapting vintage lenses to. So there's no exif data I could remember, sorry".
@thedrunkweddingphotographer
I believe we can ALL agree the "my camera is better" crowd almost ALWAYS have a Sony or Canon around their neck. Prove me wrong. 🤣 That said, when I was camera sales guy at both Ritz and Samy's Camera in L.A., I would tell my customers, "if you were to give five people the exact same pots and pans, the exact same ingredients with a step by step recipe, what do you think will happen? will the five dishes come out the same?"
@notacloutchaser7407
@notacloutchaser7407 Год назад
I mean both those companies do make objectively “better” cameras. Its like saying the messi and cr7! Crowd always say they are better than the rest. They just are. Doesnt mean pentax isnt viable.
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie Год назад
I had a Sony F828. Great camera. The optical/virtual switch in lens went bad and I gave it away to a repairman who promised it a good home.
@bradmiller9993
@bradmiller9993 Год назад
As you mentioned there are a lot of factors that could/should go into a camera selection decision, but I was recently pleasantly surprised at how much of a 'wow' factor I was seeing using my Sony A7 with a Voigtländer APO lens on it. ONE of the reasons I bought the Sony was because I wanted to adapt different lenses to it , but I am leaning toward selecting the camera to fit the lens I want to use.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
I think that's very smart!
@markogrzunov22
@markogrzunov22 Год назад
I respect Pentax. I specially love Pentax 645Z images...
@Apollolabsphoto
@Apollolabsphoto Год назад
Totally agree. For me, the olympus cameras have the colours and feels that i like. But it feels rediculous that people will insult a photo because of the camera body, every camera brand has produced an amazing image at some point. I've started taking a lot of pleasure in doing night photography on micro 4/3, because most reddit and youtubers love to pretend its impossible to get a good image, then I post it without mentioning the camera ;)
@FharishAhmedPortfolio
@FharishAhmedPortfolio Год назад
Forget sensors!!! Nikon makes my camera body!!! I love it cause, I have literally dropped it a couple dozen times!
@bobamarmstrong
@bobamarmstrong Год назад
Excellent video. That's the same argument that pushed me to put aside my newer DSLR and to use old 6MP CCD Nikon cameras as a test proof that DSLR, even 6MP, can get the job done if you take daylight photos for Instagram. I couldn't see a difference because Instagram compress all images anyway no matter if it is 60MP or 6MP, you get the same output. Of course I won't be able to crop but it will force me to make better composition because those old cameras are limited (max 400 ISO, no low light without flash, no crop). That's what is important : learn to make good composition. Photographers back in the day did make banger photos with those old cameras. Then why not today because they take the same pictures as before
@ForeverYoungAaron
@ForeverYoungAaron Год назад
I have a habit of grabbing any cheap oddball digital cameras I can find and challenging myself to get results. I’ve found that the possibilities are basically endless as long as I can change at least ISO. Have had many people not even realize the cameras I use if it wasn’t for me documenting it in my captions. It’s a fun way to remind myself that gear doesn’t matter nearly as much as many people think.
@kcphotogeek6207
@kcphotogeek6207 Год назад
It’s like the time I was at an air show and the Canon 80D shooter beside me said looking at my photos on the K70 “not bad for a little camera” he then knowingly tapped his 80D and said “you should upgrade to a FF camera like this” I didn’t have the heart to tell him it wasn’t FF let alone that technically my sensor was bigger. Not that it mattered he was happy with his camera
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Hhahaha! oh man, I would lose it inside 🤣 but yeah I mean if they're happy. Just goes to show you don't need FF to get great images!
@hipstercrab5886
@hipstercrab5886 Год назад
"SONY makes all the sensors so your camera isnt special" * *FILM PHOTOGRAPHY INTENSIFIES* *
@williamcrawford7857
@williamcrawford7857 Год назад
If only more people would understand this, they would find a lot more joy in their photography. RU-vid is rife with gear snobs, I won't name names. In my opinion, they are like cancer in the photography world. Buy what you can afford and go have fun. Ignore the haters.
@SummersSnaps
@SummersSnaps Год назад
Yes had this many times. Sometimes the person is jokingly mean, sometimes they are seriously mean, sometimes they are pleasantly shocked and continue with praise. A good test or idea for a video perhaps would be to try the same but with RAW files colour calibrated. I watched a video or two about this (but there are not many about) and tried it myself. I tried to colour match my K-1, 645D and XT4 and it was interesting to say the least. In theory they should all broadly look the same, however the 645D (despite Xrite confirming a successful profile) could not actually get a successful profile, the colours were WAY WACKY (must be a CCD thing). Which then only left the K-1 and XT4, to which I felt the XT4 would still retain a kind of magenta tint (so much for X Trans sensors being renown for accurate colours!). K-1 I felt looked the most accurate and neutral.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
That would be an interesting test!
@SummersSnaps
@SummersSnaps Год назад
@@snappiness Yeh I don't know if you can colour calibrate those specific CCD sensors, my 645D failed (but out of the box it seems to have the best colour accuracy of the lot). But it is interesting to see that there are still differences that I don't think are down to user error or whatever but actual sensor differences.
@paulantoni1934
@paulantoni1934 Год назад
Imo the only thing that really matters about cameras these days is if you enjoy shooting with it and if you like how the camera feels in your hands, if it fits you and your style of shooting. There is no objectively best camera for everyone. Just find the one you like and go with it :)
@AlphaDango
@AlphaDango Год назад
I chose my Camera based on my lenses. When I started my photography hobby I wanted to shoot on film. I got a Minolta 7000 with a few lenses for cheap and I really like that camera. And because I now have Minolta A-Mount lenses I bought a fitting sony camera.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
If you thought these three old digital cameras were cool, check out these: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wSmLQpbuhe8.html
@Shrek_Has_Covid19
@Shrek_Has_Covid19 Год назад
my camera has more AV out ports than yours
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 🤣 the true test of a good camera
@seanb480
@seanb480 Год назад
Your Nikon E8400 with the battery grip, wowza! I need that for mine! And btw, while some might compare sensors, how about comparing cameras that you have to reset the date/time/metering/etc every time you need to recharge the battery, like the E8400?? I think whatever charge that camera used to hold during battery recharges seems to have died on mine.
@SkylerKing
@SkylerKing Год назад
That is one of the reasons why the Leica M9 is still so loved and sought after. Aside from other things that contribute to the "look" of the final photo, like the image processor, the various algorithms that determine how light information is interpreted, etc, it has a very rare sensor. It's CCD, for one. It's a CCD made by Kodak. That Kodak CCD is full frame. That full frame Kodak CCD does not have an anti-aliasing filter on it. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other camera that shares that same sensor setup.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
And other Leica cameras that aren't made in conjunction with Panasonic (so, higher end Leica's) do use another sensor supplier than Sony, so they are unique even today in that regard. That's awesome though. Hear great things about the M9.
@user-kcrpine
@user-kcrpine Год назад
Real Leicas. That’s all that needs to be said. The same held true in the Minolta days.
@shishkebab-i4z
@shishkebab-i4z Год назад
camera specs doesnt matter realy, if you have an 6mp sensor or above no one is gonna notice on social media.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Good point
@matthieuzglurg6015
@matthieuzglurg6015 Год назад
Instagram doesn't even display more than a 2MP image. I could use my 4MP D2H and nobody would really notice the lack of resolution vs my 24MP X-T2
@shishkebab-i4z
@shishkebab-i4z Год назад
@@matthieuzglurg6015 the d2h is still an great camera
@matthieuzglurg6015
@matthieuzglurg6015 Год назад
@@shishkebab-i4z agreed ! although image quality is not its strong suit
@bobamarmstrong
@bobamarmstrong Год назад
Right now I'm using a Nikon D70S and a D40. If I post my photos in Instagram, exactly no one will notice. I tried it to make an assumption. But after that, I loved the colors of those old CCD sensors and the small RAW files (5mb). No more bother to use a 24MP or 36MP for street photography
@ReinoldFZ
@ReinoldFZ Год назад
Love him or hate him something very valuable I learned from reading Ken Rockwell is that even with a broken camera if you are serious about photography you will do something good for yourself. Other thing I learned is that exotic specifications are less meaningful that finding out what is your personal style, and just get the best tool for that style. I know DSLR's are objectively better cameras than my aps-c compact digital cameras, and my film cameras, but with DSLR I wouldn't feel like having joy but working.
@JJARCHIE
@JJARCHIE 3 месяца назад
Dslrs are better than mirrorless ?
@owenduncan4574
@owenduncan4574 Год назад
I gave up on my pentax dl because it had difficulty focusing , particularly in low light, but when I look back at old photos of my grandchildren I still find photos taken in good light with the Pentax blow me away.
@spidermann5000
@spidermann5000 Год назад
I feel superior to anyone else coz i probably found the best combo for me. 50% of the shots are now out of focus but i still produce more keepers then before. Pentax is great but if you are kind of a mole and enjoy manual focus with super fast primes in available light the most then an EVF is pure gold(didnt know mf could be fun untill then). The best camera is the one that works best for you. If you pull of better pictures with inferior gear then you might be ahead of me in the game🙃. I would love an A9 however coz i could use it for ages without caring about shutter life. I was considering the K-1 but events with available light... and my liking for snapshots. didn't really work with K-3ii and the 36mp would have also worked against me. I'd still choose Pentax for self defence😂
@paulmcwilliams8641
@paulmcwilliams8641 Год назад
When I take photographs of flowers with one of my mirrorless cameras and I am using the natural light available I normally use a tripod. I always set the white balance to custom kelvin and compare the subject to what I see on the screen, then adjust the temperature to make them as close as possible followed by a bit of tweaking of the colour cast too. However it is often impossible to get it perfect even then.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 Год назад
It is quite normal in industry to have a competitor make components to their own specifications, there is usually some cost saving. Take Panasonic (a larger company than Sony) who did develop and manufacture their own LMOS (not CMOS) sensors for themselves and Olympus (& Leica?) but then had an accident with their factory and so had Sony make them. Even with identical sensors there are differences in the look between Panasonic and Olympus which I put down to having different image processor "engines". The best photographer I personally know, always produces terrific photographs from his Pentax, and is quite possibly the least technically minded person I have ever met. Which I think proves the best camera is the one you are holding (and do not blame the tools)
@TheUrbandilema
@TheUrbandilema Год назад
Not the camera but the artist I say..use it as tool and not prize possession.loved this debate ansld Info..I learned alot about it ..yea I did know Sony made sensors but idk it so many interesting 🤔 so technically most of every one has a Sony with em.. The Pentax k1 on eBay are tempting me lol will have to grab.. awesome vid and keep safe snappy
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Well said! And yeah it's crazy how cheap the K-1 is getting these days. Such an awesome camera (in my opinion). I love a good hunkin' DSLR xD
@Xitrun
@Xitrun Год назад
@@snappiness К1 - уникальная камера среди всех существующих зеркальных камер
@karmagroovy
@karmagroovy Год назад
Relatively speaking, it's a small number of internet trolls who really care about sensors/gear. The vast majority of people photograph with their phones and don't even know what sensor make they are using.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
That, and even the majority of photographers I meet are people chill about gear. It's just ever so often...
@MichaelRusso
@MichaelRusso Год назад
Ignore consumer snobs. If I have a complaint about any camera, it is the weight and size. I like smaller, lighter cameras. I find mirror-less easier to focus manual lenses then SLR's. I have both and enjoy both, including my K-1
@AllistonOnElement
@AllistonOnElement Год назад
Good job! Because that’s like essentially asking what stove/oven cooked your meal in reply, as opposed to giving credit to the cook who prepared it. Now, more specifically: - camera default settings vary between companies, the level of camera, and the features/capabilities made available, or not, such as the custom image mode default setting and inherent colour variance and tonal preferences within them also influenced by the Program Line selection if used or even available. - the same applies to white balance. No two brand cameras and arguably some models within brands render the same white balance due to the variance of preferences for colour (such as PENTAX colours green, blue and red) and within image modes and other settings including file type JPEG, RAW proprietary and /or RAW DNG, including RGB versus sRGB. RGB is a larger colour gamut. sRGB is a muddier colour rendition. RAW post processing software also varies in colour rendition, gradation, and white balance, including whether you can fully maximize the benefit of a particular companies image engine design and particular unique capabilities such as PENTAX PIXEL SHIFT. Post processing software options may not have the full lens database from which to glean the optical properties, coatings and capabilities that tie into the full camera working capabilities. - the Sony sensor in the K-1 and K-1 Mark II on paper is the same as the one used in the Nikon D850. But I can tell you as a former PENTAX rep the sensors are in fact different made to different specs in accordance to colour, gradation, dynamic range, and proprietary specifications respective of different image engines and lens properties. - If you look at the limited lenses such as the FA 77mm you will find it was designed to render it’s own unique version of white like that of the quality of ivory white coloured button on a shirt. White is not an absolute. Similar lens depiction intents and lens sensibilities exist in the other limited lenses, including the new HD D FA 21mm AW Limited. - the emphasis has become about specs, numerical values and absolute sharpness as a measure of what’s good or better. But this makes for a white and blank, a 2 dimensional rendering, like the pursuit to achieve absolute focus foreground to background. And thus we become conditioned to work in post and rely on AI algorithms making the camera and secondary in importance. - the lens is the critical element of choice, as is knowing how to utilize the capabilities inherent within the designer’s intended depiction and the uniquenesses and capabilities inherent within the full gamut of a particular camera manufacturer’s offering. - It all goes together and the purpose and biggest challenge is to devise a product that keeps the user’s eye on the subject, inspired, enthralled, and creatively inspired; connected to the subject and environment working seamlessly and intuitively, not in the way. That is the legacy of PENTAX and the emphasis on the optics, the glass, the coatings, colour rendition and sensibilities that are not always quantifiable or numerical. - I’ll point out that there is a difference between the era of film cameras and digital cameras: Film cameras relied on film selection and development in the way of chemistry and paper to render colour and tone and texture. Including white balance and the addition of filters, or bulbs for correction. Yes, lens coatings determined contrast and sharpness, and reduced ghosting and such. However, with the advent of digital, camera and lens manufacturer’s had to assume the role that film played in representing light in gradation, dynamic range, light sensitivity tonality and grain, white balance, even devising metering and focus systems that include colour in subject, scene, and colour identification and rendering. And the glass and coatings play a greater role in this dynamic and interconnectivity. It’s not as simple as the name and origin of the sensor. - PENTAX also made a limited version of the FA 43mm Limited lens for Leica! - My point is connect the dots and see why the emphasis is on the glass, and why the optical remains a constant, the backbone of PENTAX. The colour is inherent within the optical as it extends through the image engine, custom image modes and program lines. There is a reason PENTAX RAW files are cleaner saving the photographer a lot of time in post. - at the end of the day the best camera is the one that melds in the background second nature to the user’s creative path.
@dossphosmedia
@dossphosmedia Год назад
Wait....... I actually agree with a Pentax shooter? Huh wonder if pigs are flying? Lol. In all seriousness this goes to something I have been saying for over a decade your camera gear does NOT define you as a photographer unless you let it. Stop worrying about what people think get out there and take amazing images.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Lol! Maybe we can all get along after all...
@OttoVonRaz
@OttoVonRaz Год назад
One sensor maker to rule them all! Cameras are all image making tools (very powerful). Our feelings make us feel like our cameras are the best. Yet how many YT videos are about photogs changing systems ALL of the time. Ugh. Let's just shoot more and create more beautiful images and videos. Cheers! ❤❤❤
@theobserver9131
@theobserver9131 Год назад
Great pictures have been taken with a box with a hole in it.
@bardofhighrenown
@bardofhighrenown Год назад
My understanding is that the way camera sensors are made is very similar to any kind of computer silicon. For example, your graphics card, both current generation Nvidia and AMD graphics cards are made by the same company, TSMC. But that doesn't mean they are the same. They are architecturally very different and thus perform differently under different circumstances. I think it's just Sony manufacturers most sensors because they have the machines and experience to do so. I assumed that different companies designed their own sensor architecture, but maybe I'm wrong about that. Also I shoot Foveon (thanks to you bringing it to my attention) so my sensor is apparently manufactured by a company called Dongbu Electronics, which is, as far as I know, not owned by Sony.
@mrjohnbaseley
@mrjohnbaseley Год назад
@1:58 camera magically appears on shelf (top left).. spooky...
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
Very observant...
@jimhood1202
@jimhood1202 Год назад
True enough. The output of most cameras can be manipulated to do whatever you want so what separates them for me is how I use them practically. Even lens choice is not so much of a factor these days but how it feels in your hands, where the controls are and how easy the menu is to access those are the things that separate one from another in my eyes. Oh, and auto focus... damn. Still love my Pentax gear though. 😉
@mortenthorpe
@mortenthorpe Год назад
arguably oneof the best consumer camera sensors yet produced, is the Toshiba one, found in the Nikon D7200 DSLR - that sensor still performs right at the top!
@quite1enough
@quite1enough Год назад
Your Pentax K-1 is definitely better than Sony because of ergonomics and variety of other factors
@quirkworks4076
@quirkworks4076 Год назад
I've been shooting Pentax professionally for 35 years. I also shoot Sony (mostly for video clients). Both systems have their strengths and weaknesses, but Pentax build quality, ergonomics, and image quality are second to none...even with that goofy Sony sensor inside, LOL. Great video and channel! Keep inspiring us!
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
I am definitely biased towards my Pentax ;)
@fosterb300
@fosterb300 Год назад
**cracks knuckles** Can't wait for spicy hot takes in the comments
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
🔥🔥🔥
@tonykeltsflorida
@tonykeltsflorida Год назад
I have a Canon M6 mark II. I always hear from others that I should get a new "R" series camera. Why? I have all the lenses I need. I have a 32MP camera that takes good pictures. It didn't cost more than my car like a "R" series camera. Getting good results from what you have is what it should be about.
@slampest
@slampest 6 месяцев назад
Wait the m6 mark 2 has 36 mp? :o Thats awesome! Man im always in need of resolution, got an R over here.
@JJARCHIE
@JJARCHIE 3 месяца назад
​@@slampest*32 and that came with sacrifices, the sensor has lower dr by quite a margin compared to 80d/m6i sensor, and also a stop worse performance
@slampest
@slampest 3 месяца назад
@@JJARCHIE i look at the R6 series like i look at the ipad airs. Its a mid lvl fullframe camera
@JJARCHIE
@JJARCHIE 3 месяца назад
@@slampest r6 ? You meant the m6 ? , yeah m6 is unfortunately a mid lvl camera, wish they had time to release atleast an entry fullframe M or a flagship Apsc M
@chrishowell5718
@chrishowell5718 Год назад
I'm old enough to remember when a certain subset of photographers looked down their noses at people who used 35mm film, rather than using 'proper' cameras shooting either 6x6 or 6x7cm on roll film. "Full frame" isn't some Platonic Ideal dictated by the laws of physics, it's a compromise that allowed the production of portable and adequately ergonomic cameras for shooting film, but resulted in some professional cameras that were more cumbersome than a medium format body (think an EOS1 telephoto set up vs a Hasselblad portrait camera). All cameras are a compromise to some extent. There's a reason we aren't all shooting "full frame" (5 x 4", like Ansel Adams for landscape, or Arthur Fellig for "street").
@edwardnoble9897
@edwardnoble9897 Год назад
Nice video! It's probably always going to be a hot topic for some people, but yeah I find it silly. I think all cameras make me excited for different reasons as I do love the camera's design as well as what it allows me to do. I have used Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Hasselblad and all kinds but I started out on Pentax and now use a Sony. I love them all. When you say that someone dissed your K-1 I can totally imagine the idiot saying that but I would love to try a K-1 myself. You're totally right that someone dissing a camera says more about them than anything else. I am about to take out the 24 year old Nikon D1 to photograph wildlife tomorrow, just for the fun of it. My latest purchase was a Pentax MX, which was the first camera I ever used and I can't wait to try that again too. The weird thing is I don't mind people being tribal about camera gear, as long as it makes you excited, but using that excuse to be negative about something else is just sad.
@nerys71
@nerys71 Год назад
Sensor largely does not matter so long as it meets the minimum mission requirements. the only difference maybe is how hard to get the shot. glass has a bigger impact than sensor (assuming not a crap sensor) and more important than ALL of that is. light light light photographer light light light and framing. People even today are amazed at some of the shots from my QV10 (yeah that one 320x240 or 640x480 from 25 years ago) For some NICHE things nothing trumps glass and raw megapixels. IE far away cropping like mad. you just need raw res. but MOST Of the time 3mp is enough for 99% of 99% of shooters needs. most of the time it just comes down to "picking" the right shot framing moment and having the right light. I have used some crap cams to get some amazing shots because well luck. the light was just so perfect. :-)
@nerys71
@nerys71 Год назад
Plus my camera is always the best camera. because I can just eat you eat your camera and then mine is all that's left :-) muahahahahaha
@sem_skywalker
@sem_skywalker 6 месяцев назад
Mine is better than yours! For video at least. BM Pocket 4K here with *Real RAW* 4K60 recording capability! Though, its CMOS sensor is also made by Sony... That being said, the most important thing is the image and photos/videos you can produce. Not the equipment used. As long as it is not Ai generated, then you have not produced it yourself. ;)
@Stop-All-War
@Stop-All-War Год назад
Great advice: Cameras are like _DATING_ & Lenses are like _Marriage_ 👍 #1 Lens choice.. purpose / resolution / input to Camera - including colour. / price #2 Camera choice.. ergonomics / features / mount / output fidelity / price.
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
I like that summation of features to focus on!
@Stop-All-War
@Stop-All-War Год назад
@@snappiness Ty Snappi
@dukenukem5768
@dukenukem5768 Год назад
I'd never realised that Pentax cameras were supposed to be unfashionable (even before the mirrorless stampede). I could pick detailed holes in all the brands, but not right now. I'm not interested in fps or fast AF, but the people who go on about them sound like they only ever take school sports day photos.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 2 месяца назад
While having the same sensor model name, the sensor in the F828 is very different to the version in the other two cameras. The F828 has a different bayer filter. The 4 color RGBE has cyan filters in it which produces better blues and yellows, but the differences are often subtle, sometimes large.
@berk6123
@berk6123 Год назад
But i am a better photographer than you :)
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
That I do believe lol
@_gatsby
@_gatsby Год назад
any camera works, as long as you don't extremely over expose it.. wtf is this intro? LOLOL even your skin is blown out dude.. HAHA let me grab my sunglasses and watch the rest (i watch on a 4k tv) * i shoot concerts on a Canon R.. i would say it's absolutely a perfect camera, except for the auto white balance. (i have to fix almost every single image in post) my Canon 6D even had better auto white balance tbh
@derrenleepoole
@derrenleepoole Год назад
You know the saying: all the gear and know idea! That. If someone is dissing your gear it shows a lack confidence in them, that they perhaps care not to admit. Hiding behind bravado and all that.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 10 месяцев назад
Semiconductor tooling is horrendously expensive, especially imagine the size of these masks that need to be defect free. So i think when they spin one of those up, they milk it hard, everyone is getting sensors with identical semiconductor layer if they're buying. But on the other hand printing the micro lenses on there, anti aliasing diffusion layer, or different chemical composition and physical thickness of colour filter dyes, these would be things that one would think, a brand can get custom with very little overhead. There will also be differences in how the sensors are driven, especially in CCD era well you're dealing with a deeply analogue part and voltages and timings were very external. Now you have CMOS being an analogue part pretending to be a digital part, but the fundamental flexibility still has to be there somewhere right? Might just be a bunch of i2c registers now, or secret firmware. I've noticed this on a weirdly related product, high end computer mice, everyone has the same sensor die with different part number, and the mouse microcontroller uploads a custom firmware into the sensor at startup. The sensor model corresponds to which firmware it has been validated with during manufacturing. This process also exists for FPGAs, where you can get a discount if you don't care about defects in the die which don't affect your firmware, and the manufacturer will just pre-valiate the part for you with the firmware of your choosing. But different doesn't necessarily mean better; and for photography, cameras have been just good for 15 years, so eh? How was the K01? I was under the impression that it was a bit of a Marced Nuisance and that maybe you shouldn't let the guy known for deadly "furniture" not intended for its nominal purpose lay out the buttons and the grip and pick the materials. But of course the real question is: does it bring all the boys to the yard?
@bilkon
@bilkon Год назад
My favorites include some of the Samsung cameras with their own sensors, the Nikon 1 with the Aptina sensor. Not 'better' but I like the colours produced for certain subjects with these sensors. Gone are the days when I just have a film camera and pop in different makes of films for certain looks - Simpler times.
@melody3741
@melody3741 Год назад
I like how simple the films are. You dont have settings it's just one "preset" and you just work within it. However any good photo lab will be able to change things even in a darkroom print so the colors dont matter to get ultra precise.
@ChrisDN
@ChrisDN 6 месяцев назад
This is a big part of the reason I never identify my cameras online, and strip the brand info from my EXIF data. The only person that needs to know that is me.
@erwinc.9117
@erwinc.9117 Год назад
The Sony IMX410 is used in anything from the a73 to the Leica SL-2S yet the images are not the same, there's a lot more to how the software interprets the data took down by the sensors, it's truly fascinating.
@neeravnaik
@neeravnaik Год назад
I use a Fuji XT2 since 7 years and it is still good enough. Bought a Sony a7iv as I wanted bigger lens for birding. Could have bought any of big brands but Sony had the most affordable and available zoom 200-600 lens so the choice of camera. On other lenses Apart from being full frame and higher resolution I don’t think the photos are any different and I am happy to use both cameras. The viewfinder is really one thing which is much better though
@Razertw
@Razertw Год назад
Fuji XT-3 is still pretty sweet deal. X-T2 probably as well, it only lacks some video features. These older cameras seem more nostalgic lol
@neeravnaik
@neeravnaik Год назад
@@Razertw exactly. XT3 is better Built than XT2 and improves on the formula
@timryan894
@timryan894 Год назад
I wonder if there were film emulsion snobs back in the day like there are silicone sensor snobs today....hmmm
@dukenukem5768
@dukenukem5768 Год назад
No there were not. Different people used different film for different purposes, like higher speed for night and indoor picures. In my camera club, if someone used a new type of film other people would be interested and might try it for themselves. No-one could be snobbish because, unlike a camera or a car, anyone else could use the same film next time they re-loaded.
@FantasyNero
@FantasyNero Год назад
My Videos is Better Than Yours, because am recording 4K at 60fps you just only 30fps.
@JensMHA
@JensMHA Год назад
I made a proper bargain on some Olympus pro lenses, due to the fellow selling them was bullied into getting full frame in his local camera club, his words, not mine. Personally, I enjoy shooting what I have, from a rather early Canon Powershot, to my G9 with Pana-Leica lenses with quite a lot of things from various brands in between. No fools frame, though, but will sooner or later get a crack on the Nikon D700 and the Canon EOS5 MkII. 🙂
@Meisterbananepinguin
@Meisterbananepinguin Год назад
As cameras are quite expensive, people want to assure they jabe chosen the best their money can buy. If their work doesn't do the talking, they have to persuade otherwise, just tricking themselves.
@StrangelyIronic
@StrangelyIronic 5 месяцев назад
It's pretty much only photographers that will gripe because of the camera/gear used. The overwhelming majority of people viewing the image, regardless of the medium (be it digital gallery, print, etc.) couldn't care less what the camera was that shot it. Lately I've found myself picking up an E-PL8 with a TTArtisan 25mm f2 (50mm in FF field of view) more than basically any other setup unless I have to have autofocus for action or something. I even find myself going out with a much higher end setup, getting bored, coming back and swapping to the small cheapo beginner marketed camera and a cheap 50 dollar full manual lens, then going out and enjoying it. I've been tempted to replace/retire the E-PL8 with an E-M10.ii to get an EVF, but I've deemed that not worth the 350-ish dollars that would cost. To be fair, my camera bag I used for job as a travelling photojournalist has 3 bodies, an EM5.iii for my main body that most has the Oly 75mm f1.8 lens on, an EP5 on my other shoulder usually with the PanaLeica 15mm f1.7 or 25mm f1.4 on, and (since I gave my EM1.iii to my work partner) a G9 with a 12-40 f2.8 or 12-100mm f4 that typically stays in my bag. I focus on portraits and not being a distraction, so the 150mm of effective range on a small, discrete body lets me get the shots I want. The little EP5, despite being over 10 years old, still does well and handles any situation I need to swap to the 30mm-50mm range for instead of the tele 150mm equiv. That little aged EP5 has got me countless shots that were praised for work. My dream camera for walking around is basically an E-M10.ii body/menus wise with the rear screen design off an X-T3/X-T5, USB-C... and that's it more or less. Maybe if they can shrink the EM5iii's level of components now for PDAF and processing, but I would match rather use manual lenses for my personal time taking pictures. I'd be good with G100D with the only change being IBIS being added (why wasn't this here already like with even the GX85?) the rear screen being the 3 way tilt instead of the god awful full articulated vlog screen that's just a metric pain for photography. That's one reason I use the E-PL8, considering buying another EM10.ii again, and am sad I sold my GX85, they have standard tilt screens.
@TechKiAag
@TechKiAag Год назад
If Possible Please Make One Video How To Open Nikon P1000 Camera Lens??? Please
@donperegrine922
@donperegrine922 2 месяца назад
The very first slider I move is going to DOMINATE any tiny difference i payed a few thousand extra to achieve from the sensor. And if I dont edit the poctures, I just stay with the jpeg......the JOEG engine is going to DOMINATE any tiny differences that I oayed thousand extra to achieve by the sensor.
@febryandartansyah
@febryandartansyah Год назад
i heard pentax but never use them, cuz nobody use it. in dslr era, i jus use canon/nikon and mirrorless era im using sony rn cuz have huge catalog of lens and is fit for my job as videographer. interesting to see people using less known brand and have great shot.
@pawebaran3601
@pawebaran3601 Год назад
I am not watching this video, i just wanted to share my laughter because I saw a thumbnail of super overexposed man with title "my camera is better than yours" which is super hilarious
@flagger2020
@flagger2020 Год назад
Pentax colours pounds Sony colour science.. Oh and weather sealing, inbody IBIS, good ergonomics, and a real pentaprism.. K1 rocks.. as does LC1, K5, J5, M1, M3ii, and lastly A7Riii etc and even Yi-M1 if DNG raw Bottom line, get out and shoot and enjoy
@shadowgunner69
@shadowgunner69 5 месяцев назад
Just after Sony bought KM, I bought a Sony A-300. I had dreamed of a Minolta 7D, but didn't have the bucks for it. Fast forward to my local Camera Store, where a sales associate advised me that real photographers didn't shoot with Sony.
@carmenfissenden2530
@carmenfissenden2530 Год назад
You got there in the end and I hope that others watching your excellent video did as well . All that matters is your ability to visualise a scene and use it to tell a story in one or more images . Leonardo or Michelangelo - which was better ? Well, in terms of then and now , most would say the former ; but do you know why? If you don’t , then it doesn’t matter . If you like the image regardless of the technique or who painted it , then that is good enough . It is the same with cameras . I never found one that did everything : they never one and perhaps they never will . This is why the choice of camera should start with the lens lenses you like best and match those to the body that offers the range of tools you need or think you will need . Most of us buy a i oven or washing machine with more programs than we will bother to use and that is true of our cameras . The camera is just a box to paint with light to capture an image - much the same way Leonardo did . He applied layers of pigment on top of each other and because they were in small amounts , the darker elements built over the white base to create natural light tones to figures without any hard contours being painted in ; such as with noses . Today I use a MFT camera and two prime lenses for walkabout and portraits , with the wide angle on my phone for everything else . And since I have my phone with me all the time , I take more pictures with it . If my pro friends cannot tell from looking at my photo books which was which - not that they care and nor do I. My style has developed to create classic images that stand the test of time and the family love them . Perfection is what strive for , but in pursuit of it I am looking to capture magical moments on my travels and I have a body of work in both in negative and digital files to make more books than I have time to do. I also enjoy writing fiction and illustrating some of that work . And despite all of this I feel that I am not good enough ha ha , but others read those images and tales differently . The look on children’s faces or of grown ups reading the teenage and young adult stories are easily transported out of reality . We all can do this with our phones I am convinced . Using a camera just enhances the experience . In short - forget the gear and make images that put a smile on your face and that of others . Timeless !
@bilkon
@bilkon Год назад
Well said!
@jamespulver3890
@jamespulver3890 9 месяцев назад
I think this is so hard because "better" by its nature is super subjective. Comparing spec sheets is downright stupid in most cases - I've often seen "specs" that should mean product X is better than product Y, but then you go try and use both for a task and find out that isn't true for what you're trying to do. It's also hard to explain to many people where and for what a given spec matters. I think everyone knows by now that if you want to post on instagram, there's basically no camera that will not hit the ~1.5MP resolution I think Instagram uses. Even my first digital camera back in 2002ish did 1.3MP, and the next point and shoot was well over the 1.5MP. So having 24 vs 45 vs 61 MP very likely doesn't matter for posting to Instagram. Even for printing, people printed 6 and 8 MP images in the aughts just fine at 8x10, and 24MP people easily print at 11x17 and bigger. So ... yea - not going to matter there. Where it does matter is cropping, but then you as a photographer have a lot of control over how you frame up pictures to affect if any crop is needed at all. Then we're often talking about how you're going to shoot, and what you're going to shoot. Landscape and Portrait and Product probably don't even need autofocus, certainly not "high end", you might well be manually focusing anyway. Those subjects aren't moving, so if you can't get focus, that's on you. And like you said, the lenses matter a lot, at least as much as the camera, because the camera can only work with what the lens sends to the sensor. However, for most people, all systems have the common lenses that might be used. So unless you need the 180 degree VR recording Canon released and no one else has, there probably isn't actually a unique modern lens that you realistically would use. In all honestly, most of the unique looks are from vintage lenses, so that does push you towards mirrorless for adaptability but otherwise brand seems mostly irrelevant (to me) for, you know, getting a 24-70 F2.8 or an 85mm f1.8 or f1.2, or 50mm whatever. They all have one or more. What I think ends up mattering the most is actually ergonomics / how it feels to use, and how the lenses feel etc. As you showed, different cameras have very different grips, and ways to use them. But the output can be managed to look very similar SooC, and pretty much the same via RAW processing.
@RudolfWolph
@RudolfWolph 8 месяцев назад
Doing something neat with a garbage camera will always be cooler than just buying performance.
@35mmShowdown
@35mmShowdown 8 месяцев назад
I’ve had a probably-well meaning soul amble up to me recently and, upon eyeing I was hefting not only a Pentax, but a *white-bodied KX*, began to start telling me how to photography. I pointed at the mind-bendingly gorgeous SMC Takumar 28mm adapted to its bayonet and smiled- “yea I put this old piece of junk on it and it doesn’t even auto-focus!”
@loochan325
@loochan325 Год назад
K1 has a similar sensor to the one used in Nikon D810 and D800. D810 is good but D800 renders weird greenish shadows . D810 also has a better AF then both D800 and K1/K1 II, close to but under 5D III and no wey near D3-D6 or any eos 1DS/DX. D850 has a sensor that is not made by Sony, but by some israelian company in an ex Panasonic factory. And Leica also use FF35 sensors that are not made by Sony. Pentax 645D has a Kodak 40MP sensor, and 645Z with puny viewfinder a Sony sensor. Pentax K20 and K7 have a Samsung sensor.
@belowaverage7539
@belowaverage7539 Год назад
Bro I had the most hilarious interaction with some one today about cameras. I was shooting some furniture at work today (I work a t a furniture store) and some dude noticed me and came and asked me what I was shooting. I told him I was shooting a Fujifilm GFX100s and he SCOFFED and walked off. LMAO wtf? I said "what, you don't like Fuji?" and he says with out even turning to face me " It's not a sony!" BAHAHAHAHA are you serious!?
@xeentjelief
@xeentjelief 6 месяцев назад
Your camera IS better than mine! I started out on pentax in the early CCD era. Been wanting a K-1 since forever! I'm invested in Nikon though, since I wanted a Full-Frame. So making the switch back to Pentax now isn't as easy...
@eurogael
@eurogael Год назад
I've had a few cams since but you will pry my last Nikon D50 out of my cold dead hands. I still love it and all its limitations.
@anupew3276
@anupew3276 Год назад
Sony is for camera sensors what TSCM is for CPUs and GPUs. As far as Im aware in high-end camera sensors its less of 'everything have same Sony sensor' and more 'everyone makes their design, Sony manufactures it' (or even 3rd party desing the sensor, sony manufactures sensor, camera manufacturer does or outsource the other parts like color filters, processor,...), And then nobody else uses that sensor. For example sensor in Nikon D850 was as far as I know only used in D850, even Z7 with same resolution and almost same performance have, according to Nikon, different sensor than D850. And sensor for D850 was designed by 3rd party (forgot who, but supposedly company that did sensor designs for Leica or Fujifilm, not sure which) and manufactured by Sony.
@reinhartreuschel5499
@reinhartreuschel5499 Год назад
Thank you for this delighting statements based on facts a random consumer isn't aware but prefers his 'sunshine' prejudices. I mostly ignore nowaday's digital camera development but remember my having been confronted with the camera market in der 1970s. I spontaneously decided in favour of one brand, but I equally 'played' with others (Asahi Pentax, Olympus, Yashica, Rollei, Hasselblad, Makina, Mamiya...) at the same time. It has been never a matter of fact belonging to brand quality but invited me to handle my hobby playfully instead of being 'Mysterious Mister Serious' who had to defend his preconception against whatever. Regardless of that I've remained true to my FELT top gear until now because of its supreme experienced reliability. I need not publish this brand because for another person it will - and can - be another brand, or the same - that doesn't matter but is only stuff to a 'bigger-faster-better-quartet' for grown-ups retarded backward in development of little kids who all the while had said 'my father's car is bigger, faster, dearer, better than yours'. What a shame, or simply ridiculous;-))
@adamevans1989
@adamevans1989 Год назад
The PanaLeicas have different JPEG processing and better/less reflective lens coatings than their Panasonic brethren. Does it really matter that much? Objectively, a bit, but not that much. For people who like getting mad about gear online? Definitely yes. People need to chill out and realise that if they were carpenters talking about their essential tools, they'd be getting mad about hammers, which sounds incredibly stupid. I actually have more fun shooting on 'worse' cameras due to the challenge. I have a Sony A7 IV which is so insanely easy to take great looking images on, but I have more fun with my CCD-based Nikon D200 and film cameras.
@danielschmaderer
@danielschmaderer Год назад
I can’t stand people who think gear is what makes a photo. I shoot on the Fuji X-T5, before that the X-T4, before that the Nikon Z6, D500, D7500, and D5600. All the Nikon lenses were just alright, but I took some really nice shots with what I had for my experience level at the time. My point is, composition doesn’t come from having amazing gear or a brand, it comes from the photographers eye. Someone can shoot on the most expensive gear around and still take horrible shots. Use what inspires you to pick up your camera and take photos.
@igorqmoreira
@igorqmoreira Год назад
I used to shoot exclusively with digicams, but ended up developing a crippling addiction on buying these super obscure and quirky 1mp cameras from eBay. I spent all the money I had. I lost my house, car, wife and job. I hit rock bottom. That is when I reached out to a friend of mine, and he asked: “Why don’t you just shoot Sony instead?” That is when my life changed. I sold all my cameras and bought a Sony Alpha 7 IV. Its the only camera I own and the only one I will ever need. Today I am a successful crypto investor and shoot mostly night photography (especially cityscapes and gas stations).
@snappiness
@snappiness Год назад
I'd watch this movie. 😄
@wrenchmonkey3920
@wrenchmonkey3920 Год назад
the wiki of Sony IMX sensors is gone. When I first got my K70 it was a good resource to compare to the 'big boys'. Still wondering what's in my Kodak S1 mft but it takes good images. (no ibs with adapted glass boo) My Sinar P2 4x5 is heavier than most cameras therefore...better? (also K1 owner)
@robert43g
@robert43g Год назад
I have has had Pentax since I got new a Pentax ME super . Only grip I have about the Pentax is getting lens / flashes etcon 3rd party gear or stock . My camera now is a K3II early Pentax digital had Samsung sensor like K10D K20D hence why there was Pentax camers rebadged Samsung same with flashes as I 1 of my fash is a AFG540 has Samsung on it Where Nikon / Canon have it over Pentax is in sport with foucus speed and able to hire lens from shops / direct
@semperfi-1918
@semperfi-1918 8 месяцев назад
My first 35mm camera is a pentax sf-10. Sure there are many cameras out there. But this one was fress 2 lenses and even the paperwork baf and... a tripod. Kinda heavy but sturdy. I got a canon T70 for 10 woth 3 lenses.. but despite being an excellent camera... not my taste so ill be selling it. And woth pentax i love how you can take older lenses and use them on modern pentax. 😊
@jayabramson6702
@jayabramson6702 Год назад
I had a guy come up and diss the Nikon gear I was using. At the time, Canon had one of their 1D somethings out that had tremendous autofocus issues. I asked him what he was shooting, he answered the 1D something. I asked him so you have an $8,000 body that can’t properly autofocus? He shut up and walked away…… I always like to know what people are using because I like gear. My very good friend shoots Canon; I now use mostly Fuji, but haul out my D700 occasionally. We enjoy poking fun at each other’s gear much like the Ford vs Chevy rivalry
@robstammers7149
@robstammers7149 Год назад
Don't you just hate camera snobbery, a bit similar to car snobbery. I really hate this kind of "mines better than yours" s#%t. Of course I have a newish dslr that suits my needs and expectations. But some of my favourite digital and 35mm cameras are now classed as vintage. Yeh, some of them carry big name badges, in fact they all do. But there are people who wouldn't consider Casio or Vivitar or Centon or Cosina or Practica cameras big names. Being a Big Name is the preserve of a handful of makers, we know who they are. For me, in my humble opinion, there are several great "better than yours" cameras out there to truly experience, if only some people would only get off their pedastals and open their eyes. Regards Rob (UK).
@dingdingdingdiiiiing
@dingdingdingdiiiiing Год назад
I remember having been humbled by someone obviously talented; while I was shooting a Canon 10D with a 135L lens on, he shot with 300D and a 18-55mm kit lens, and yeah, pixel peeping, my shots were better, but that's not really what counts.
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