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Sony FE 85mm F1.8 vs Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 Field Test (In Thailand!) 

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The Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 is one of our favourite lenses for Sony's mirrorless cameras, so we were surprised to see Sony launch their own 85mm F1.8 last month. On a recent trip to see Sony's Thailand factory, we decided to shoot out these two great lenses. Is the Zeiss Batis worth paying twice as much for?
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Special thanks to Rishi Sanyal from DPReview
Shot and edited by Jordan Drake
Shot on the Sony A6500, A7R II & Panasonic GH5
Order the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 from The Camera Store:
www.thecamerastore.com/8490-Zeiss-Batis-85mm-f1-8-E-Mount.aspx
Order the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 from The Camera Store:
www.thecamerastore.com/11560-Sony-FE-85mm-f1-8.aspx

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@HansPacker
@HansPacker 7 лет назад
I don't think there is a more likable duo for camera reviews than Chris and Jordan. I watch reviews for gear that I am not even interested in.
@rishisanyal2444
@rishisanyal2444 7 лет назад
I agree. I love these guys.
@cameralabs
@cameralabs 7 лет назад
Great video, particularly the parts with me in it.
@dalibormrkic7808
@dalibormrkic7808 7 лет назад
I think it was between your portrait and elephant shot at 6:10 for best shot.
@renorecoco
@renorecoco 6 лет назад
Gordon Laing .
@raksh9
@raksh9 4 года назад
Those parts were so good, I had to loosen my pants. Wait, what?
@JonathanPetersonlisten2EITS
@JonathanPetersonlisten2EITS 7 лет назад
Guys, I love your videos and this one is no exception. I've got the 85mm f1.4 GM lens already, but this was great information. More than anything...I was thoroughly impressed by the images showcased in this video. Seriously some awesome work here! Bravo
@bogrunberger
@bogrunberger 7 лет назад
Great review and great images. I love all the videos you guys make!
@paolomarcellogrant30
@paolomarcellogrant30 7 лет назад
i was literally just looking for a comparison of these lenses and then u guys make one. wow. u guys are great thanks.
@Jiraset07
@Jiraset07 7 лет назад
Big fan of your camera review, love to see you in my country.👍
@motomanvlog
@motomanvlog 7 лет назад
Very cool you guys got to come out here. Love the video as always
@stevenglenn8724
@stevenglenn8724 6 лет назад
Thanks for a great review. I am looking at the Sony 55 mm lens and you have helped me to decide that this is going to be my next lens for my ArR II. Love your very professional videos!
@Felliph3
@Felliph3 7 лет назад
Excellent review as always. Thank you guys
@Jinxteru
@Jinxteru 7 лет назад
Great video with a nice pace to it! Thanks a lot!
@1iblock
@1iblock 7 лет назад
Hey guys thanks for the review and great meeting you on the Thailand trip. I know what lens i will be getting.
@msamiullah001
@msamiullah001 7 лет назад
love the content, love the music, great stuff
@MrSk8long
@MrSk8long 7 лет назад
Good job! Going to get the FE after seeing your review.
@themattenthehat
@themattenthehat 7 лет назад
Just went to the Banff Mountain Film Festival World Tour yesterday (in Costa Mesa, California), and saw the Camera Store sponsorship. Its awesome that you guys sponsor things like that, not to mention providing these fantastic videos and review, and for free no less! Keep up the great work, and keep the passion in what you do!
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 7 лет назад
Helping with Banff Mountain Film Fest Adventure Filmmaking Workshop is always one of the highlights of my year! Glad you checked out the festival tour, there were some great films last year! Jordan @ TCSTV
@KrinYongvongphaiboon
@KrinYongvongphaiboon 7 лет назад
Welcome! Good to see you in Thailand!
@gernerchristensen8114
@gernerchristensen8114 7 лет назад
Best YT channel about gear out there guys. Congrats :)
@proxyshooter
@proxyshooter 4 года назад
this was my first lens ever, and as a beginner I didn't know how to use it properly. Now after shooting for a year and a half I have decided to purchase this lens again, and while watching this video I am jumping out of my seat at these shots and my good decision making in revisiting this old friend. It comes in tomorrow, cannot wait.
@JohnSisonPhotography
@JohnSisonPhotography 7 лет назад
One of my favourite camera channels. Great work guys! Sony 85mm FE looks good for its price.
@samspace81
@samspace81 6 лет назад
Quality review, looking at one of these to go with my new A6500 Sony to use on my RU-vid channel ;)
7 лет назад
Awesome review! Thank you
@nordattack
@nordattack 7 лет назад
Both look like amazing lenses, but I can clearly see the Zeiss has greater color saturation and contrast and a slightly warmer rendering which I like. But besides that, they look so close in rendering that you could flip a coin and be very happy. Thanks for the review!
@MarcoBagnoli
@MarcoBagnoli 7 лет назад
6:10 one of the best example shot on the Channel :D
@howardhsiao7917
@howardhsiao7917 7 лет назад
SooGehts don't know what happened to Chris, but his photos on this episode are fantastic
@MiladJPanah
@MiladJPanah 7 лет назад
National Geographic worthy image
@_rhapsodist
@_rhapsodist 7 лет назад
I wanted to say the same!
@Rielestkid
@Rielestkid 7 лет назад
thought the same exact thing
@PC-eu9gb
@PC-eu9gb 6 лет назад
came lookin for this comment, was not disappointed
@RokDAWG1
@RokDAWG1 5 лет назад
Awesome review!
@YuttapoomJinachai
@YuttapoomJinachai 7 лет назад
I'm glad you come. Welcome to Thailand. Hope you enjoy here.
@_erensarigul
@_erensarigul 7 лет назад
2:71 is a classic :D , great work guys!
@AllenFreemanMediaGuru
@AllenFreemanMediaGuru 7 лет назад
Super pro video! Great comparison shots. In the real world the Sony 85 1.8 seems to be the way to go. Keep up the great tech reviews.
@MrAlexTech
@MrAlexTech 7 лет назад
My copy is with the Courier! Will be here on Tuesday woo!! Going to do a little Q&A if anyone has any question about the lens not answered here?!
@MrAdilRehman
@MrAdilRehman 7 лет назад
awesome video , can you compare it to G master 85mm F1.4 ?
@thischannelisforcommenting5680
Welcome to Bangkok! Didn't expect to see you here!
@LetsGoHelio
@LetsGoHelio 7 лет назад
Damn this was a great video. Thanks!
@southwestontario
@southwestontario 5 лет назад
In the side by side photos, I did notice a difference. the Zeiss was sharper and warmer color (as you mentioned). I did like it much better than the Sony, but would I pay double? No way.
@richaneesh
@richaneesh 7 лет назад
7:46 top to bottom the whole left side, the Batis gives more detailed and sharp image and also, the portraits shows that the Batis has more natural tone to the skin. Add to it the weather sealing and image stabilizer, it really makes up for double the price, because in certain conditions one might end up not being able to use the Sony lens at all due to weather condition or as you yourself mentioned: a bumpy ride. Theoretically there may not be a huge difference, but in real life it may be huge depending on the situation.
@sush2142
@sush2142 7 лет назад
This video was absolutely beautiful.
@hamroz1
@hamroz1 6 лет назад
What was the camera bag you were using at the beginning of the video?
@richardpcrowe
@richardpcrowe 11 месяцев назад
I have been using the Sony 85mm f/1.8 on both APSC and full frame Sony mirrorless cameras since it was introduced and I just love it. It is great for portraits on both crop and full frame and also makes a nice lightweight combination on a crop format camera with the Sigma 18-50mm f/1.8 lens. The 122.5 mm equivalent meshes quite well with the 27-75mm equivalent of the Sigma. I am not a great fan of UWA lenses and the Sigma fills my needs in that area while the 85mm is a decent mid range zoom on a crop format camera. I use the 85mm on the Sony A7iii and on the A6600 and I do not miss stabilization in that lens.
@Trevor-Watlington
@Trevor-Watlington 4 года назад
what if I can pick up a batis for 600? should i do it?
@charnkiat
@charnkiat 7 лет назад
Welcome to Thailand! I love your show. Big fan 💜 If you do a meet and greet, I'm sure lots of us would definitely go see you.
@dipakmakwana190
@dipakmakwana190 7 лет назад
sir how can i use this lens for my sony a58..
@victormc49
@victormc49 7 лет назад
Damm!! My favorite camera was actually assembled in my country! Didn't know that before! Anyways hope you guys enjoyed Thailand!
@vpr5562
@vpr5562 5 лет назад
For my A7R3 I bought first the Sony. Sold it when I saw a great deal for second hand batis. Paid 150$ more, but got stabilization and weather resistance. And to my eye a bit of more lens contrast.
@dilloncallaway3621
@dilloncallaway3621 4 года назад
V PR do you ever actually use the weather sealing though?
@juiceplanet147
@juiceplanet147 7 лет назад
wow! a trip to Thailand one the most beautiful places to shoot in you guys weren't prepared. What a bummer. 😕
@ryanricker7528
@ryanricker7528 6 лет назад
Right on..thanks!
@XTpF4vaQEp
@XTpF4vaQEp 7 лет назад
Will there be a factory tour/video?
@TevanAlexander
@TevanAlexander 2 года назад
Thanks for the review! Look at the shine on the eyes, the Batis is substantially sharper: 7:38
@davidmonak114
@davidmonak114 7 лет назад
just saw this lens for sale and wondering how well it works for video on the sony a7sm2?
@user-sz9wr8ff5t
@user-sz9wr8ff5t 7 лет назад
wow this's great job guys like always
@mtp_studios
@mtp_studios 6 лет назад
i could listen to you talk about lenses all night long.
@p7272
@p7272 7 лет назад
When will you be doing a review of the SF-M or G Series UHS-II SD Memory Cards. What cards are you currently using?
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 лет назад
Would be nice if this video have these 2 as comparison.. feat. GM 85 1.4 too. I have the 85 GM and I love it. Nonetheless.. Thanks for sharing and have a good time in Thailand !
@criticaltinker
@criticaltinker 6 лет назад
The color of the Batis is a lot better. Warmer I should say. and the contrast looks better to me.
@MyekalBenham
@MyekalBenham 4 года назад
Over a year later and yeah the Skin tones are more natural to my eye on the Batis. Also more Micro Contrast.
@beyondestination
@beyondestination 4 года назад
Just shoot raw and color correct in post.
@angel20503
@angel20503 3 года назад
@@beyondestination extra work & waste time..
@LostInYoutube
@LostInYoutube 7 лет назад
3:15 is that Chelsea????
@ernstvandeursen9254
@ernstvandeursen9254 5 лет назад
The Focus Lock button made me choose for the Sony 1,8/85mm. Makes the difference in a lot of shots. Will add the new Sony 1,8/35mm to my collection asap for the same reason. What a wonderfull lightweight three lens set that will be, together with the Zeiss 1,8/55mm Sonnar.
@ForzaDerpGuy
@ForzaDerpGuy 7 лет назад
I wonder why I like your reviews so much even though I'm not looking for a camera/lens to replace my D7100 with 18-140mm 3.something - 5.6 ED
@crappytoe
@crappytoe 7 лет назад
How long are you guys going to be in Thailand? Would like to meet you guys there if you guys have some time next week.
@estebanisswimming
@estebanisswimming 7 лет назад
No mittens? Love your work. Great to see the setting change
@VioletGOKU
@VioletGOKU 7 лет назад
I am a simple man...I see Chelsea, I hit Like!
@frankie5072
@frankie5072 6 лет назад
Hey guys, big fan, anywho, what would you recommend? I do primarily weddings and portrait work but I’m torn. I like the 1.8 of this lens however I can cover more of a range with the new Sony 24-105 f/4. What would you do @thecamerastoretv ?
@test0815iii
@test0815iii 7 лет назад
which camera bag did you use in the video
@ThePong75
@ThePong75 7 лет назад
Welcome to Thailand... big fan...
@iamfrankstallone
@iamfrankstallone 7 лет назад
3:14 - Hi there Chelsea Northrup! 😂
@iamfrankstallone
@iamfrankstallone 7 лет назад
6:14 aaaaand howdy to Tony Northup! 🤣
@icy2527
@icy2527 7 лет назад
Welcome to Thailand bro!
@MajorMotions
@MajorMotions 7 лет назад
Wow look at that incredible DR at 1:18!! What camera was that?
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 7 лет назад
GH5 in V-Log. The deepest shadows are a bit blue, I'd grade it differently now. Jordan @ TCSTV
@KAVINSKY311
@KAVINSKY311 7 лет назад
are you guys going to do an a9 review?
@carlj1964
@carlj1964 7 лет назад
I've always wanted to own a Zeiss, there's this kudos with the brand. I'm also a realist. I have to pay bills. Just got my A7ii and the FE85mm f1.8 hit the shop the same day. I'm so glad that I'm not relinquishing iq with this. Great comparison.
@kenhunter3249
@kenhunter3249 7 лет назад
Is the Pentax K1 compatible with Zeiss Otus lenses?
@Zetaphotography
@Zetaphotography 4 года назад
What camera was used for the Stills.
@llvideos6268
@llvideos6268 7 лет назад
Thanks for the video! Confused sometimes: You should have put the camera you used on the images stills, as you did with the speed, ISO, ....
@cizcalodiablopanzon
@cizcalodiablopanzon 7 лет назад
hello John ....great comparison! please help! need your advise since you are an experienced photographer and you have used lots of gear. i want to buy an 85mm for my a6000, but this is the thing, i would like to change my camera in a couple of years for an a7 model, and this is my dilemma, on the one hand, i can buy this sony 85 to futureproof my buy when i get my full frame camera, but on the other hand my camera came with the laea4 adapter, so i have seen the zeiss 85 f1.4 A-mount used in good condition on EBAY for as low as 800 dlls, what would you do? buy this sony 85 or the zeiss 85 A- mount?
@TY-yskm
@TY-yskm 6 лет назад
That's a awesome comparison review. I'm wondering between the FE 85mm f1.8 and FE 90mm f2.8 macro, which one is better value? Does the 90mm shoot as great portrait images as the 85MM?
@chosenideahandle
@chosenideahandle 5 лет назад
Do you need a macro? If you don't and you're serious about a portrait lens, it's hard to leave all that extra headroom and shallow DOF for a paltry 2.8. Yes 10 months late.
@mallred4347
@mallred4347 7 лет назад
Hi TCS - SONY A99II REVIEW PLEASE
@panoramictv9249
@panoramictv9249 7 лет назад
I'd rather save $600 since they look so similar
@23Scadu
@23Scadu 7 лет назад
3:46 That's a great smile, glad it was caught on more than just a selfie.
@send2daa
@send2daa 7 лет назад
Im a big fan from Thailand too! Did not know you were here T^T
@acrinacrin6925
@acrinacrin6925 6 лет назад
Another awesome review. Can you compare it (or both) with Nikon 85mm 1.8 G lens? I am really curious how (relatively) old Nikon G lens performs against new Sony-Zeiss.
@rocklobster112
@rocklobster112 7 лет назад
What about the Sigma Art 85mm? How does this compare? Side note: i already own the sigma adapter for Sony.
@KChalermpanth
@KChalermpanth 7 лет назад
Welcome to Thailand! Hope you guys are liking it here. How long will you be here?
@santillanmusic
@santillanmusic 4 года назад
Are either of these weather sealed?
@MrPhilbautista
@MrPhilbautista 7 лет назад
How does a Canon 85/1.8 on an MC-11 compare?
@dannyhong1930
@dannyhong1930 7 лет назад
Welcome to Thailand!!!
@sgpork
@sgpork 7 лет назад
How to get permit to enter the Chonburi Sony factory? Would love to visit..
@3ddesign216
@3ddesign216 3 года назад
"Shot and edited by Jordan Drake Shot on the Sony A6500" ...... but what kind of lens you used for the video 4:30 ?? Thanks!
@pleate99
@pleate99 6 лет назад
Wow welcome to Thailand :)
@Mortalbeing1
@Mortalbeing1 7 лет назад
Nice comparison... But I'm think of ordering the Sony FE 85mm F1.8.... P.S. what brand of camera is that you have in the video?
@ThisIsManta
@ThisIsManta 7 лет назад
Greetings from Thailand!
@WitChyy14
@WitChyy14 7 лет назад
Do you still in Bangkok ? I'm a big fan from Thailand
@TheHalferz
@TheHalferz 7 лет назад
Had similar problem at grand palace. Only a 50mm on and aps-c .. at some point in the day you decide to just take in the view yourself and make a pledge to return someday in the future with a wide angle.
@stagger9660
@stagger9660 7 лет назад
whats with the high iso?
@despoonsamy4624
@despoonsamy4624 7 лет назад
Well, how about that, In my own back yard, I've been following your channel (from BKK) for years, Would have been super to meet you
@tcurdt
@tcurdt 7 лет назад
How on earth is focus-by-wire a feature? Especially for video?
@AntonCaines
@AntonCaines 7 лет назад
What camera was this video recorded on? The dynamic range of the shot by the window was impressive
@TheCameraStoreTV
@TheCameraStoreTV 7 лет назад
That was shot on the GH5. We also used a Sony A6500 & A7R II for some sequences. Jordan @ TCSTV
@TripleFork
@TripleFork 7 лет назад
TheCameraStoreTV When are you reviewing the GH5?
@MarkDeu
@MarkDeu 6 лет назад
Thanks for the review. I received my Zeiss Batis 85mm one day ago and realize in silent environment that i can hear always a motor sound inside the lens. Even i switch off the OSS, is that normal? Please can someone who owns the Batis 85mm as well help me??? Thank you very much. Cheers Mark
@suya_alliluya
@suya_alliluya 3 года назад
Hi, I just got mine and I hear the same rattling sound inside the lens when the camera is powered off. However, it goes away once I turn the camera on. Did you find what the problem was? Some people say it's the OSS but some people say their copy is dead silent all the time. Thanks.
@TheInternetEnzyme
@TheInternetEnzyme 7 лет назад
This video brings up a question in my mind: how important is OSS in lenses when paired with a body without stabilization? In particular, I'm trying to decide between the Sony 35mm f1.8 and the Sigma 30mm F1.4 The Sigma is sharper and slightly faster (when looking at the T-Stop the Sigma isnt actually much faster) but doesnt have stabilization. Which would you get on a unstabilized A6300? How important is stabilization to you?
@saiiiiiii1
@saiiiiiii1 7 лет назад
This really depends on how you plan to use the lens. If you're shooting a lot of portraits with available light, OSS is of pretty much no use. Because you need a minimum shutter speed to make sure you freeze the motion of the person and this shutter speed will be higher than the safe to handhold time for a 30/35mm lens anyway. Using it for the studio with flashes, OSS again doesn't matter.
@amoxintubeu
@amoxintubeu 6 лет назад
Chris, I am not sure. But, when you said "Muay Thai", your Thai accent was very good. It's like you know how to speak Thai.
@dozierc
@dozierc 7 лет назад
If all A7 are manufactured there why do we have American versions and U.K. Versions of these cameras? Just asking. Thx
@benwelles2160
@benwelles2160 7 лет назад
Hey Chris and Jordon, back in the days of film how did a photographer shoot an event like a hockey game or something, considering they only had 36 shots in a roll, did they have to time reloading their film during a lull in the action or did they have separate film bodies? I've been wondering about that since the last Nikon f4 video.
@JoshuaBoldt
@JoshuaBoldt 7 лет назад
Yep, someone covering the Olympics would shoot rolls and rolls of film, give them to a delivery service who would deliver them to AP or whatever service they use for delivery to places like Sports Illustrated, and they would get developed and put into papers and magazines the same day sometimes. With a camera like the Nikon F5 it rewinds and reloads very quickly -- you can do the whole rewind/reload in about 7 seconds -- maybe faster if you are a ninja at it -- so you can just wait for a lull during sports, reload, and strategically shoot the important shots like starts, finishes, famous athletes, crashes, etc. You might even sacrifice a partial roll so that you have a full roll at the beginning of something important. You just learn to shoot in shorter bursts like bursts of 3 instead of 20 like with a D5, or be willing to waste a huge burst on a front page moment or huge bursts all around and reload like hell. I've seen guys on TV shoot a half a roll or sometimes a whole roll as basketball players come down the court toward them, then reload while the players go to the other side then shoot another half or full roll on the way back -- you never get back a Micheal Jordan playoff moment. And, yes, some shooters have a roll in a body with a tele lens and roll in a body with a wider lens for when the play gets close, or even a long tele and a slightly shorter tele, or an emergency backup in case they get caught at the end of a roll, etc. You just had to be prepared and know WTF you were doing.
@AnandaGarden
@AnandaGarden 7 лет назад
Okay, I can go back all the way to 1972-76 when I worked as a photo editor at a U.S. sports magazine. We would get photos mailed from the Olympics and other major events at a speed that, for the time, seemed astonishingly quick. Obviously, Mark Shearman and Tony Duffy were sending film daily to their favorite labs that would develop and make prints - very beautifully, I might add - nothing beat Tri-X expertly developed in HC-110 for a dramatic sports mood. At any rate, those wonderful photos were indeed taken on (many) rolls of 36-exposure film, on motor-driven Nikon Fs.
@MrJhuang999
@MrJhuang999 7 лет назад
Ben Welles multiple camera bodies
@laginw
@laginw 7 лет назад
dude, u still in Bangkok, Thailand??? i'm your big fan, and i'm Thai :)
@eric8588
@eric8588 7 лет назад
Batis is a fantastic lens. Love mine.
@muffemod
@muffemod 7 лет назад
love it as well, it's a modern classic.
@rkfan1012
@rkfan1012 3 года назад
Epic foreshadowing 6:36
@XDR2201
@XDR2201 7 лет назад
Wow! You're in Thailand right now? Really wanna see you.
@eneko4562
@eneko4562 5 лет назад
could I use this for my SONY a68 camera mount a? I wanna buy a 85mm but I dont know what to search for
@QuietOC
@QuietOC 5 лет назад
No, the Sony 85mm F2.8 SAM is your inexpensive option. You can use any of the Minolta AF 85mm F1.4's or ger the new Tamron 85mm F1.8