Sony Playstation Made A Mistake Betting On Live Service Games 

I can see marathon being canceled with how far it's pushed back

Ugh, Sony increased the size of their development studios while many are still working on triple A single player titles. Sucker Puncher, Naughty Dog released their games in 2020 and development cycle for triple A titles is 3 years. Days Gone started working on a new IP shortly after. SMS and GG launched their games this generation. Insomniac released Spider- Man 2 and they're working on Wolverine next. You really need to some more research.

And online only too

@@jordanking7711 my mistake, thanx

@@Antronix3 No problem. And when I say online only in general , think of SimCity 2013 or the rebooted NFS game.

Everyone sees how much money GTA Online makes and think "Gee, we could make a version of that." What they don't realize is there's only ever going to be a handful of live service games that are insanely profitable and the vast majority fail. It's like the mid to late 2000s when there were a ton of WOW knockoffs that all failed.

@@Flyon86not to mention most of the live service games that succeed have backup plans(GTA online has the single player portion) or the focus was never to be live service from the start. Look at Fortnite or even GTA Online, both started off as single player/co op focused experiences. Both grew from established games or games with a fall back if the live service part failed. And some that became popular had years of development before becoming big(launching and having to fix things before people wanted to play them).

@@captaindestruction9332 Yeah, even Rockstar can't catch lightning in a bottle twice. Look at how Red Dead Online never really took off like GTA online did.

Bro, let’s face it, they had no choice. We all knew they were a dud from the very beginning. $ony couldn’t afford Activision/Blizzard/King anyway if they tried. 😂 Plus knowing all the dirty practice $ony’s been pulling, Acti/Blizz/King or we’d all be in worlds of trouble because $ony would be in way over their heads.

Destiny fans haven't exactly been fond of Bungie recently either and Destiny 2 has gone so far down the rabbit hole that it actively turns away new players. I'm not sure Bungie was the right team to turn to in order to figure out how to make a widely appealing online game

@@DaveGXblizzard and Activision suck bro.

@@TheHOOfan1 SO TRUE! Man I’m SO ready to just END Destiny 2 after they finally release The Final Shape. I couldn’t care LESS about this stupid “episodes” crap hey want to carry out. Like seriously, WHAT real stories are they going to elk in the aftermath instead of just letting Destiny DIE in peace already, especially while trying to revitalize an old dud IP Marathon?? I ain’t interested in OLD OR PVP focuses nonsense!

Half of gamers are to stupid to realize bad business they will still eat it up

Because in the end cod was the moneymaker...it dont matter how much praise u get if u got nothing from it..and now cod is owned by microsoft sony dont want to depend on cod anymore.

They got cocky again like they did during the PS3 era. The PS4 days were a return to old with Sony going back to their roots and producing good first party games but the PS5 era has just been a mess since 2020

Wth is wrong with you people, in what way have they thrown anything away. They are still making single player game, and are just adding to that library...I hate the internet😂.

Every company wants the success of Fortnite and COD. Unfortunately, none of these companies are run by men who care more about gamers than they do profit margins.

Those Sony exclusives weren't successful, Playstation has been surviving off Cod for Almost 20 years now. It's Cod and not their precious exclusives that has kept them in the game.

That and some of them might not even last long enough before they eventually shut down, which in turn will leave the PS5 players with… you guessed it, no games to play.

@@GrandmasterArk you are right. That's very likely to happen

With Jim Ryan STILL there, doubt it. But you are spot on.

Dont even need to be AAA. They need to go back to the PS2/PS3 era and just start cranking out fun unique experiences. Games like Parapa the Rappa or Little Big Planet, Fat Princess etc. games that ooze personality and risk taking that the Current Playstation would never ever touch.

When you think about it those were good times @@captaindestruction9332

Jim Ryan is the Don mattick of playstatipn

​@@kobra6660 I know this was likely a spelling mistake, but I can't stop laughing at how you wrote playstation. Err mah gerd playstatipn😂

@mrpyrostorm3165 I was watching this on my phone not used to sending comments on phone hate how small the layout is

@@kobra6660 it's all good. You gave me a great chuckle.

It's because it's all about making a quick buck or money forever and companies don't understand the true effort needed.

Lmao talk about being clueless. You realize they just announced a record breaking 2nd quarter right? How about that they have sold over 46 million ps5s? How about they are still on track to sell 25 million consoles this fiscal yr, which would be another playstation record. How about Spiderman 2 sold 5 million copies in 10 days. Quarter 3 and quarter 4 are going to be MASSIVE for playstation. Lmao xbox only wishes they could could be screwed like that.

People still buy them but nobody wants them anymore

​@@krisdahlin4386 who cares, when Microsoft can buy them at any-time 😂😂

@tedmanutd4668 and yet they can't manage to even finish 2nd in any console generation. Yes they have the money, it's clearly the talent that they lack. Lol

​@@krisdahlin4386clearly sony knows sometging you dont which is why they are in a desperate situation. Clearly those sales dont tell the entire picture.

Warframe and PSO2 were pretty good. Got very far in both and never spent a dime in either.

I think its more a shot in the dark. Releasing a lot of service games in the hope that 1 or 2 become a huge hit

Sure but I think it's wise to not spread them all thin. despite what many think Destiny was a very expensive game to make.@@TheCrabCoreKing

@@cyphaborg6598 i totally agree

its cus they see how much bungie monetizes destiny and delivered the bare minimum product for years just raking in the money; not that they made a good game

​@@TheCrabCoreKingthinking the same thing, a single successful live service can cover the cost of the development of 6 or 8 live service games plus whatever lack dlc and micro transactions they sell. The money on merchandise on that one live service game is the money they would chase for profits,.

The problem is that their signature "blockbuster" games take too much time and money to produce. Even if they're profitable, Sony wants more at the end of the day. As for why they're doing a 180 into live services...I have no idea. Maybe they think by brute forcing so many live services, at least one will succeed? I imagine Sony will be in for a rude awakening, if they can even get any live services out the door at this rate...

@@evillecaston Honestly, it sounds like someone came up with the absurdly horrible strategy to start brute forcing as many live service games as possible to see if they can get one that will succeed. However, whoever came up with that horrible strategy doesn't realize that if they release the first five or six (of their 12) live service games in ONE year (which is a terrible mistake since many live service games tend to cannibalize each other since gamers only have so many hours and money to support a single live service game, let alone multiple at once) it's going to result in ALL of those games not making enough profits, resulting in ALL their servers getting shutdown pretty fast. Once people start seeing that the player counts are near dead, they will assume that the servers might get shut down and will stay clear of ALL of them (every single one of them is going to get hit with that stigma, resulting in ALL of them failing and dying). It's almost a guarantee they will end up having 12 financial bombs on their hands. If they only release ONE (and only ONE) live service game and devote to making that ONE live service game as special as possible and with a guaranteed long term plan (where even if it's not financially successful at first and gets tons of hatred at launch, they can devote their time to fixing the game and making it better, kind of like what happened with Fallout 76 where the first two years of that game during 2018 and 2019 were a freaking disaster but they eventually turned it around and made it a much better game with the 2020 and 2021 Wastelanders and Steel Reign updates and they have the Atlantic City updates for next month and next year ready to go) that would be much better since people know that the servers won't get shutdown in one year and that the game will get updates for years and will be more willing to give the game a chance at some point in time. But brute forcing 12 live service game is going to result in 12 financial flops. Brute forcing multiple live service games isn't going to work.

@@johnpenguinthe3rd13 Maybe Sony is delusional and/or arrogant enough to think they'll knock them all out of the park, despite all evidence otherwise. I wouldn't put it past Jim Ryan, at the very least. This will be his legacy, after all.

not always the case

Not always the best thing. More time for a better game is only good if the company can give time without being too pissed off about potential lost revenue for losing time. Sony is known for being stupidly greedy, so they're going to milk that live service so hard because of all the delays. Good luck to you.

@mormacfey The games for the older consoles like the original playstation can be jail broken and play burned copies of games. Even the original xbox can be modded to play burned copies of the original xbox. One of the video game stores that I shop at has pokemon games for the gameboy advance that are modded and have roms added to them. The employee at the video game store told me about it when I asked him about it. There is software that can remove the copy protected from movies. One of the portable consoles was running linux from a raspberry pie and the raspberry pie looked like a tiny super nintendo that was playing super nintendo roms.

@mormacfey I still use optical discs since hdd and ssd can fail at anytime. I still have my old optical cds that I burned years ago and they still work and I use optical discs for archiving data. I still buy cds. I prefer physical copies for movies, music and video games. You can download music online but certain albums were only released on physical formats like vinyl and never released a digital version online since the artist wanted certain albums to be bought with physical copies. I stopped using hdd and I switched to ssd full time for mainly copying and pasting 4k movies and other large files and playing games on pc. Hdd is too slow for copying and pasting large files and they take too long for loading games. I need the fastest ssds plus ssds have come down in price over the years compared to when ssds first came out. For my 4k discs, there is any dvd to remove the copy protection and it even decrypts the movies. Everytime I rip my physical copies of my 4k, blu ray and dvd discs. I only use the iso format since I want an exact duplicate copy of the physical discs including all the menus, extra features, delete scenes etc. and I save them to my micro sd card and watch them on my sony xperia 1 iv android phone from it's 4k 120 hz oled display. I play emulators on my phone. I'm still looking for the crysis remastered nintendo switch rom since there is a nintendo switch emulator for android. I'm curious about how crysis remastered the nintendo switch version will perform on my phone when playing in 4k. I hope that the winlator emulator for android will be updated to support game controllers. You can play mass effect 2 and fallout 3 locally from the winlator emulator for android. I hope one day there will be an original xbox emulator for android. I wanna be able to play the original halo and ninja gaiden on android and other original xbox classic games.

You can keep dreaming

@Crownerased Give us your precious exclusives Sony citizen!! You are powerless to resist the omnipotent wave of the Mighty X Clan! Our victories speak for themselves. Ftc, Cma, Jim Ryan, Dreamcast guy, Mbg, ALL Defeated by the X clan@😃😃 Join us. 🙂🙂

Yeah, that’s like rest of this generation.

That whole game was a slap in the face, or rather a golf club...

Gotta make sure the virtual Skinner boxes are properly calibrated in order to get goofballs with more money than common sense hooked securely. I’m surprised Jimbo didn’t hire somebody from EA to assist in this task. 😆

@@JohnSmith-xq1pz honestly if you played the first TLOU multiplayer you would feel the loss here. It was really good

@@mattmas6628 I did... some

They dropped the ball on Media Molecule Dreams

They haven't really announced the road map for next yr. Not very much going on at the moment for 1st party games. Concord is the only confirmed one at the moment. Maybe fairgame$ or wolverine sneak in. 3rd party exclusives is a completely different story though. Right off the top of my head they have helldivers 2, FF7 rebirth, silent hill 2, death stranding 2, stellar blade, rise of the ronin, pacific drive, and phantom blade zero.