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Sony SL-5800 Betamax VCR (from 1980) 

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Beta time! Complete with the box*, manual and remote. Most likely stored in a musty basement.
*You may notice this alleged box it came in is missing from the video. I can assure you it is alive and well, but due to extreme mustiness is not allowed in the house.
0:00 How it started
8:06 Overview (How it's going)
8:55 Australian CL-7 Belt kit!
13:22 More Overview
15:40 What is "Brightness Balance"? (flicker problems)
23:54 Playback Demonstration
26:50 Front Controls
33:32 Rear Connections
35:41 More "Brightness Balance"
39:01 Recording
46:07 Conclusion
47:21 User Manual
50:13 Goodbye

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31 июл 2024

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@michaeljohn9263
@michaeljohn9263 Год назад
I had a Sony SL-5400 that was VERY similar to this model, of course it didn't have all the "bells and whistles" that this one has. However it had an amazing picture and loved to play old tapes in pretty high quality with very minimal drop-outs. It's nice to see that there are some people out there still fixing these tanks. I also liked the intro and outro Billy Joel - My Life....Very nice touch!!
@5476Himself
@5476Himself Год назад
Ah, I knew that music sounded familiar!
@Betamaxx1
@Betamaxx1 Год назад
this reminds me so much of my sanyo vtc 9300! The model has a bad reputation, but mine works perfectly and to service the belts was so easy. One motor runs everything with the big belt (as you describes).
@videoholic50s60s70s
@videoholic50s60s70s 10 месяцев назад
Point of interest: the bightness Balance was added on later models of the 5800. which was the ONLY Betamax to have that feature. Later models had a 'still frame adjust' button, but it didn't control flicker (which was gone by then on still-frames.)
@onelphil8832
@onelphil8832 Год назад
Got one of these at the thrift store for $15 a few days ago. Neat to learn some things about it! All the belts and such look perfect inside, I'm kinda shocked haha.
@dv_vid
@dv_vid Год назад
I saw one of these at a business called Summit Video in Lee's Summit, MO last month. They have it on display but use it to do the odd transfer. Back in 1980, instead of Facebook, you would go and visit your friends at their houses and see one of these in their living room.
@alexthomson6593
@alexthomson6593 Год назад
Has one of the coolest names for any beta machine: “Time Commander.” I love mine, the thing is a tank, I actually have 2, been trying to find the right fuse to replace on my second one.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
Every time I hear Time Commander, I think of this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BRrfnvGQG1I.html
@electronicwaves
@electronicwaves Год назад
Great work, I can't wait for the next video. I need to find some time (and confidence) to try to fix my Akai VHS from 1987 that I grew up with it. I found the same mold under the dry belt.
@tambarskelfir
@tambarskelfir Год назад
Removing mustiness is not easy, but it can be done. Here are some mold-cleaning observations, which may or may not help at all. A bath of isopropyl alcohol or a good spraying of it does help. Worked well on speaker grills that had been stored in a moist cellar somewhere for years. Doesn't work well on paper though. What did work surprisingly well on a musty old book that I bought, was using a hairdryer with hot air on it. Ten to fifteen minutes of hot air and most of the moldy smell was gone. I did not expect that to work as well as it did. Anyway: Death to Mold!
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
I may give that a try with some 99% isopropyl I have in a spray bottle. I cleaned the outside covers and entire mechanism, but I'll try this on the electronics and any crevices I couldn't get at. Thanks!
@nathenzuber4021
@nathenzuber4021 10 месяцев назад
Separate real table motor is for better reliability and serviceability along with minimizing wear on the head drum bearings.
@crashbandicoot4everr
@crashbandicoot4everr Год назад
The service manual for the 5800 you can find online has the old βetamax logo printed on it so it's expected that it doesn't mention the brightness balance control. Production of this model ended in 1982 so that control might very well only exist in those later-production examples.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
Weirdly my owners manual for the 5800 does have Brightness Balance shown in it - and it's copyright year is 1980.
@betamaxuser1282
@betamaxuser1282 Год назад
Try playing a βI tape. The manual suggests that review, cue, still-frame, and other trick-play features will not work on βI. What happens if you try using them? Thank you for demonstrating the trick-play features with a CRT screen. Many flat-panel screens will black out the picture if the image is not stable. Also, I have noticed that some picture-bending or flagging effects (seen in review/cue on the VHS LP mode and two-head Betamaxes on βII) appear on CRTs but not on some flat-panel screens. Showing this on a CRT gives a better idea of what it was like to use this machine in the past.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
I completely forgot to test βI speed! I just checked and this will play βI after flipping that switch on the back. Also, as you found, the special effects will not show an image. Fast Play is disabled, Pause and Betascan blank the screen. Weirdly enough Frame Advance and Slow Motion function, just with a blanked screen which seems pointless.
@BETAMAX19732
@BETAMAX19732 11 месяцев назад
Good morning video
@airspeedmph
@airspeedmph Год назад
Fantastic piece of technology. Obsolete yes, but just look at it. All those electronic components, motors, belts, levers, cogs and whatnot working together, it just boggles the mind.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
These machines are marvels of engineering
@MyPOLYSTAR
@MyPOLYSTAR Год назад
Tenho um igual,e que aqui em Portugal não foi comercializado. Betamax Sempre!
@tikamustikabinaminudin894
@tikamustikabinaminudin894 Год назад
Vintage's series from sony beta vcr
@luisvillamizar1179
@luisvillamizar1179 4 месяца назад
Excellent video, I congratulate you, and I want to ask you for help, I have a model just like yours and the problem I have is that every time I load the cassette, the video starts and after a while it stops and the tape gets tangled inside the Betamax. When it comes out of the cassette deck it does not come out completely rolled up. I appreciate your help.
@bobskie321
@bobskie321 4 месяца назад
I have no idea if that model can play Hi-Fi tapes properly but ours was a Sony SL-5400 and when I played tapes recorded with Hi-FI audio the picture is distorted.
@crusiethmaximuss
@crusiethmaximuss Год назад
I wish VHS and Betamax merged into one technology prior to the introduction of VCD & DVD... Too bad...
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
Video8 (Sony's 8mm videotape format) was originally meant to replace Beta and VHS, but it really only got adopted in the video camera market.
@crusiethmaximuss
@crusiethmaximuss Год назад
@@probnotstech 👀😮Never even heard of that!!! Do ya' have a video 'bout it on your channel or plan on doin' one?
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
I'm not really knowledgeable on it. But I do have an old Sony Video8 camcorder I want to work on. Funny enough it's just as musty as this VCR. When I get to it I'll do a video.
@carlos.felipe
@carlos.felipe 8 месяцев назад
Hey, Thank you very much for the video! It is super helpful. I have the same machine, I bought it for about 10 USD, It was completely dead, but now I can see images. The audio was not working before I watched this video, I tried the switch pressing and it worked!, but when it was released the sound went away again. I sprayed cleaning contact on it, but I still got the same behavior. How do you manage to keep the switch in the right position? I hope you can help me with that, thanks!
@caroleecarlson9492
@caroleecarlson9492 6 месяцев назад
I have a VR 9760 zenith beta vcr do you know where I can get a manual for this. Do I need a plug for ac outlet in order for it to work
@superdznuts99
@superdznuts99 Год назад
I. Just got 6800 model but I can't get it to take up tape or return it without help manually can you help?
@dmitripetrov5536
@dmitripetrov5536 Год назад
How many belts used in this model Beta machine?
@caroleecarlson9492
@caroleecarlson9492 6 месяцев назад
What is the ac outlet
@kramsniggah4333
@kramsniggah4333 Год назад
When I was 14 a mate had seriously minted parents that were utter b'stards that bought everything they could just to stop interacting with their kid. They had one of these monsters and a stack of snuff movies that we would watch over and over. No wonder I'm fcked up 50 years later...
@probnotstech
@probnotstech Год назад
wild
@videoholic50s60s70s
@videoholic50s60s70s 10 месяцев назад
There is no Indexing on this machine....that came later.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech 10 месяцев назад
There absolutely is an indexing feature on this machine, I'm not sure what you mean. Both the SL-5600 and SL-5800 had it.
@videoholic50s60s70s
@videoholic50s60s70s 10 месяцев назад
@@probnotstech describe what it does. Indexing in the Beta Hifi and SuperBeta machines meant you can manually put an "index' on the tape, and search for it later.
@videoholic50s60s70s
@videoholic50s60s70s 10 месяцев назад
The indexing feature I'm talking about has Mark and Erase buttons to make an index point, then erase it if need be. Your machines are too old to have this.
@videoholic50s60s70s
@videoholic50s60s70s 10 месяцев назад
@@probnotstech I just looked at some picutres, and both do have an Index position as part of the counter and reset button. I'll have to do some research and see exactly how this worked.
@probnotstech
@probnotstech 10 месяцев назад
The manual states that it automatically records a cue marker onto the tape upon starting a recording. With the counter switch in the index position, the VCR will stop (from ff/rew mode) when it sees the cue marker. Later models added more features, which may be what you're thinking of.
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