Sony ZV-1: S-Cinetone

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I hope this video helps any of you who have been hoping for S-Cinetone in your Zv-1s, E-10s and Sony B-cams. After some trial and error I have come up with a profile that closely represents S-cinetone in the ZV-1. Please let me know if you would do any modifications to the custom PP I setup.
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S-Cinetone custom picture profile secret recipe
Pp10
Black level -12
Gamma - Cine2
Black Gamna - range middle - level -5
Knee - mode - manual
Color mode - Still
Saturation -0
Color Phase -2
Color depth - R+2, G +1, B-2, C 0, M +1, Y 0
Detail Level -7
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@thefilmalliance Год назад

Have you tried this setting out and are you happy with the results? If you would like to see more videos like this one like and subscribe!

@joshmoxey. 3 года назад

Brother, I can't even tell the difference between the two profiles. You've absolutely nailed it. Well done. I also bought a Sony ZV-1 as a secondary cam, with the intention of getting a full frame. But then I realized that story is king and I have everything I need right now to tell the stories I want to and build the skill w/ the ZV-1 as my primary, and then use those skills to maximize full frame in the future :) thanks for helping me with those skills!

@TwoTimesRmedia 3 года назад

"The Game" the documentary thumbnail is pretty nice. Good job .

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

You nailed it. Great observation

@ruff1draft 3 года назад

Was about to say the same thing.

@Bridgetownnosa 4 месяца назад

This not being the top comment is disappointing 😂

@edypiro 3 года назад

I had been using another mock cinetone from another channel but this is just so much better as you showed how it’s exactly similar to the real one. Perfect/. Thanks

@GR-JAY 3 года назад

I bought a zv-1 with a bad cpu kept shooting in pink. It happened just as i finished all your zv-1 videos I can't wait to buy a good one to use these tips man. Super excited for it and thanks again for the vids 📹.

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Wow, that’s incredible. Kept shooting in pink is crazy. So you contacted Sony and they had you send it back? Sorry that happened to you.

@GR-JAY 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance yep, mailing it back this week for a new one. Seems to be a fried cpu chip causing the issues. Any news on the zv e10 release date?

@GR-JAY 3 года назад

My new Zv1 just arrived I'm gonna start shooting with it tomorrow after learning the settings from your videos and buying a new Sd card.

@MikeFyxdt 3 года назад

Good stuff Joe! I agree with other viewers, ZV-1 is indeed a Swiss Army knife of photo and video tools. You keep coming up with great ideas for content… It’s appreciated!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks Mike, I’m out of ideas now haha

@MikeFyxdt 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance i’m sure you will come up with lots more great ideas! My problem is that I have more ideas than I do energy and time. 😂

@Haeppy 4 месяца назад

GOD TIER CONTENT! Thank you SO much for this!

@schoeferfilm 3 года назад

Very informative 👍🏻 I will try it with my ZV1 👌 normally I film with my fx6 in slog and not in S-Cinetone. Actually I film with the ZV1 in PP10 HLG and the picture looks excellent too. I finished two short holiday clips and I am very satisfied with the small ZV1 😀 best cinematic greetings from a still little german YT filmmaker

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

That’s good to know thank you

@just_inhawaii 2 года назад

Man, been struggling to match my a7siii with my zv1 for months using slog2, slog3, hlg, etc. this works perfectly as long as you nail white balance. Thank you. I’ll definitely do a video and give you a shout out. I barely have any subs or viewers, but I want to give credit where credit is due.

@AJCoReTV 2 года назад

How do you set WB when shooting outside? Do you go auto or ?

@rorysinclair1489 3 года назад

1 year with the ZV-1 - But this video has saved me days of experimentation that I don't have the patience, or the perhaps the skill, to perform myself. Well done, Mr Educator. The ZV-1 may be a small pond, but you are its biggest fish.

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Dang, that was motivating Thanks for all the support:)

@heyimdrod 3 года назад

thanks for the vid. u were getting a thumbs up anyway but had to give it to u right away with that thumbnail! a classic album

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Haha thanks. I agree. I’m so happy you picked up on that

@JimmyOlsson 3 года назад

Excellent as always! As a brand new ZV-1 user this channel is essential! Still blown away with the image quality of the ZV-1. I have the Canon EOS M50 and I love it, but I'm actually wondering if the ZV-1 might be my A-cam for a lot of scenarious. Anyway, I'm sure they will complement each other once I've tuned them to decently match each other colour wise!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Yes great observation I agree. Just please pack some extra batteries

@JimmyOlsson 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance Yes! Good advice! It's a must! Already bought a charger and three batteries! Also bought a screen protector and a filter adapter ring (52 mm) with a UV-filter and a lens cover. Will get the Ulanzi 18mm wide angle/10x macro 2-in-1 additional lens and a cage soon, probably from SMALLRIG. Thinking of getting the JJC 2-in-1 shooting handle with a removable wireless remote control in the future as well. :)

@Hum4yaar 11 месяцев назад

Initially i setup HLG 3 in accordance with ur video but i think S cine tone is much greater the HLG 3

@EntirelyHonest 2 года назад

You're killing it with you channel bro. As a small youtube who just got a ZV-1 your content has been so valuable. Thank you!

@RafalGendarz 3 года назад

Must admit was waiting for this video. Thanks, another great one! Just tested these settings on my zv1, and for the purpose of using with sony a7iii (I don’t have this camera 🥺🥺)maybe it’s great but in comparison to hlg3 on zv1 hlg3 looks much better according to my taste and eye ;)

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Yes I agree however If your viewer watches HLG on the wrong monitor, everything looks over exposed. Have you experienced this?

@RafalGendarz 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance that only happens when you export in hdr gamut - and yes that is wrong approach. However if you choose standard colours library in fcpx and then use hdr tools to convert the hdr footage to 709 then you got great colours and universal footage for all monitors and phones. Then it’s the same for everybody and looks the best

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

@@RafalGendarz that’s right. You told me that last time. I am a slow learner:). Thank you for the info!

@360MIX 3 года назад

True MASTER!!!! Very nice work... is the A7III the same modification to make it similer to S-Cinetone

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thank you! I’m not sure I haven’t tried it. It may need some fine tuning.

@BeatzLowkey1 2 года назад

Hey bro such a great and to the point video! Also digging the (The Documentary) inspired thumbnail thats what made me watch this video much love from Australia

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Hey there, thank you so much for all of this motivation. It is very encouraging. Do you have the Sony Zv1?

@RobBiagi Год назад

Did I miss how you “save” and “create a custom name”? Thanks for sharing this! 👊🏼

@LoveMTB Год назад

Hey Joe, are you still using the ZV-1 these days? Are there any changes you made to this "S-Cinetone" like PP10? Thanks for putting in the work!

@Bikes4Eddie 3 года назад

Thanks again for sharing. I follow your experiments to improve footage on my ZV-1

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Yes, that’s what I love yo hear

@Svenfrederikson 3 года назад

I have just tested your setting out and have noticed that dark areas or black clothes solarize heavily. I think it's because the black value has been lowered too much. If you set the black level to 0, it can be reduced in post-production without any loss. but the color representation is very pleasant, you bother the rest of your settings. Thanks Potter

@SathyajithKasun 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much from Sri Lanka

@thefilmalliance 9 месяцев назад

Cool, cheers from the US

@LoneWolfAngling 3 года назад

Awesome video, any recommendations for a variable ND filter that fits the ulanzi lense?

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

I’m still looking but will let you know. I really appreciate that. Thank you

@jahwarrior965 Год назад

Great video. Really enjoying the settings you found

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.

@davidmaxfieldgolf Год назад

This is fantastic mate! I'm going to add this to my ZV-1. Quest Question, how does this perform in low light with this picture profile? Cheers

@MTBs 3 года назад

Paid the fee! 😂 How do you expose with this setting BTW? Over or under? Zebra level?

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Great question from a diligent student. I exposed 0.0. Not above or below

@yes9900 3 года назад

You are the man I am impressed with every video you do great audio great transitions great video a true inspiration good job man keep up the good work. I’ll keep up with the thumbs up and sharing

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thank you, Im happy your getting value from these videos. And thanks for the nice words. I appreciate it

@Mraz75 3 года назад

This is awesome. Blown my mind away. You are a master of ZV1. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@alexandracarbajal2529 2 месяца назад

One more thing is there a video for M2? The menu looks different for the M2

@paramounttactical Год назад

Always awesome, informative content! Thanks

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Thank you so much. I am glad that it helps. Do you have the Sony ZV-1?

@paramounttactical Год назад

@@thefilmalliance I do. I have 2 as B cams now. I started a RU-vid channel not knowing a single thing about AV with one as my A cam and you were unbelievably helpful throughout this process. I now have a Sony A7iv as my A cam and 2 ZV1s. I’m a knuckle dragger that’s come a long way and I have you to thank for a lot of it. Your videos are appreciated and helpful. If you’re ever in the DC area, you and your fam are welcome to come jump in a Medical or gun course. I have you covered.

@paramounttactical Год назад

@@thefilmalliance while we’re primarily a gun channel we do a podcast on Fridays. If you’re interested I’d love to have you on just to talk about your YT journey, AV, and marketing. Im not sure of your politics on firearms or if you want to stay away from that to keep from alienating any segment of your audience, be happy to accommodate either way but I think it’d be fun to talk with you. -Gary

@scsl6797 3 года назад

Thanks a lot. As always, very useful video to match Sony A7SIII Cinetone and ZV1. I will try it out very soon.Moreover, I think that ZV1 can easily replace "A" camera in certain tricky conditions difficult to manage with.

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

I agree. It’s a great little camera

@yggdrssil00 3 года назад

Thank you, gonna try it with my rx100vi

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Great call. Ok, please let me know how it goes

@chrischros3192 3 года назад

You’re a genius 🥳 Love your content. 🙏🏼

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks, thats very nice of you

@mirkofischietti7856 3 года назад

I was waiting for it! I knew that you would fix the levels more precisely than the last video about S-Cinetone :) Awesome tutorial as always, thank you so much !

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks Mirco, my pleasure. Yes you were right. This comment motivates me.

@mirkofischietti7856 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance the a7Siii is gonna be my next camera, but it's early for me that I'm a beginner and it's too expensive for me right now. The zv-1 is a little monster and you can barely see the difference, of course just with these fixes.

@arnisbrown5848 3 года назад

Great work! Will this work for the A7III the same?

@360MIX 3 года назад

I just asked the same question!!.. Let's see what he says....

@Peterleverton 3 года назад

I had exactly the same issue with my A7siii and ZV1….thanks for sorting that issue out for me!!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

You are very welcome.

@OnMyTrek 3 года назад

Very useful thank you. Colour correcting/grading 😩, anything to help is a bonus so will check out that profile. 👌🏾👌🏾

@enzomr1403 3 года назад

Im looking for that music in your vid slomo, i cant found it on the Web site

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

elements.envato.com/rising-ambient-female-vocals-X3BJQCW if you subscribe to Envato can you use the link in the description of my Envato elements video? Thanks

@joemonkscreative 3 года назад

Incredible! thank you!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks for that. Thanks for all the support:)

@Truffle1947 9 месяцев назад

This is excellent :D I never realised how much I hate the standard colours until I did this and then looked at the photos! I have put this on both my ZV1s now :D

@jonathanshilton Год назад

You have nailed this profile!! Thanks so much for doing the hard work in making this profile. I'd recently purchased a Sony ZV-E10 to use as a light weight camera on real estate shoots. I'd used HLG-3 on my first couple of shoots and struggled with the exposure and colour grading. I was starting to regret my purchase, but after using your profile I'm loving shooting with the ZV-E10 now. You've made life so much easier for me!! I used your profile today for the first time on two shoots and I have just finished editing them. They both look great straight out of camera with minimal grading to do. Just enough dynamic range to pull in the windows as these often have to be let go a little. It works great!! Thanks so much. Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!!

@thefilmalliance Год назад

My pleasure

@ThrottleAddiction Год назад

Do you have a ZV-1 and GoPro match-up for video? (EDIT: GoPro 10 and/or 11)

@faidzjalil 3 года назад

Excellent video! But May I know what are the values for manual set knee?

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

I’m not sure I understand. Did you follow every step? Did I miss something?

@faidzjalil 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance I followed everything. But when you set the "Knee" to manual, what is the value in the "Manual set" under Knee submenu? Not sure how to phrase it lol.

@Svenfrederikson 3 года назад

@@faidzjalil i have the same question. Mine is set to Point:100% and Slope:+5, but is this the way i should be

@4wdflying 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance You say set knee to manual but when you do that you need to manually set it below or it could be locked on almost anything You can try 100% and 0 slope for a start. This version is pretty good and it looks similar applied to Rx100v and A7iii On the A7Siii I actually don't usually use it in favour of sLOG3 as there's lot of support in the form of LUTs etc for that out there.

@ConsumerFanatics 2 года назад

@@thefilmalliance I would also like to know if you changed the settings under the Manual Set submenu. There's a couple other videos on creating S-Cinetone for the ZV-1, and in those videos, they changed the settings. Unsure what these do.

@AdrianoJolivesi 2 года назад

Bro, as a beginner RU-vidr, I appreciate your videos and help. Liked, Subbed ✅

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Welcome aboard!

@StrillLife 2 года назад

I'm definitely going to try this. Thanks for sharing.

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

no problem! do you have the zv1?

@StrillLife 2 года назад

@@thefilmalliance yes I bought 1 used a few months ago. I haven't used it much. My hands are too shaky. Lol. That's why I love my Osmo Pockets and Fimi Palm even their image isn't as good as the ZV-1. I'm going to use it for more locked of shots and b roll until I can work out the stability issues.

@realmattjc 3 года назад

Shame Sony won’t just add it in a firmware update for both the ZV-1 and the A7III

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Yes it’s to bad

@jamesskintauy6773 3 года назад

Yeah, but then some will not buy the A7S III...

@realmattjc 3 года назад

@@jamesskintauy6773 possible but I’m not sure. If i had the dollar I would

@TonysTravel 3 года назад

Thank you for these settings. I am new with the zv-1 and I am learning a lot from your video. Just a question in Final Cut Pro which profile? Still HLG3 as per your previous video?

@Pike0815 2 месяца назад

Wow. Thank you so much 😊

@ConsumerFanatics 2 года назад

Bro, I paid your "fee" when I watched your comprehensive picture profile video on the ZV-1. LOL! Thanks so much for your time and effort in producing these videos!

@Parking64 2 года назад

Hi Jo. While taking my ZV1 with your S cinetone setting, I had a look on other RU-vidrs and their ideas for emulating S Cinetone. They had roughly the same values as your exceipt the Color mode : Still for you; Pro for them. I went to the ZV-1 manual to understand the difference but read that Still gives adapted Colors when Gamma is set to Still » Does it mean that Still is Color Mode does not work if Gamma is not set to Still ? I see a difference on the footage when I check each, but can’t really assess which one is most « S ciné » looking

@ShawnDancy01 2 года назад

So I just put those specs in my sony a6400. Did you use any type of Lut in your edting software.. Mind you I have DaVinci Ressolve Studio.

@alexandracarbajal2529 2 месяца назад

What is cinetone? I bought ZV1M2 for personal family videos. What would be the benefit of this? I am a complete amateur

@thefilmalliance 2 месяца назад

Hey Alex, S-Cinetone is a color matrix that was first introduced in Sony's professional cinema camera lineup and has now been incorporated into their consumer and prosumer camera models. It is designed to deliver rich colors and natural skin tones while retaining ample latitude for post-production flexibility. I think it would work well for what you're doing. You can look up my cine 2 Picture profile that works in the ZV-1 mark 2 as a good S-Cinetone alternative.. Its in the description of my recent video the ZV-E10 II vs the ZV-E10

@alexandracarbajal2529 2 месяца назад

@@thefilmalliance thank you for taking the time to respond

@CEDRICCHALOPIN 3 года назад

Nice job, i'm looking for that ! 👍

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thats very kind of you

@CEDRICCHALOPIN 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance I have been following you for a little while and you really do an excellent job see you ✌️

@kiddd74 2 года назад

I just finished matching my A7C with my FX3. Decided to do my ZV-1. Found your video, but the video thumbnail made me pick your video out of all of them.... That's some real "G" stuff....lmao! Thanks for this informative video bro!!

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Glad I could help! haha thanks for noticing the thumbnail

@SLK00DK 3 года назад

Thank you for yet another great video on the ZV1. I have learned much from your videos. Could you give any recommendations for settings on the ZV1 for everyday vlogging? I tend to find the shutter priority to be the best handy and aperture and ISO on auto. If I want blurry background I use the Defocus mode with C1 function key. I will try your picture profile settings for future vlogging setup.

@keithdennis5085 3 года назад

So far, I've been using the HL-3 picture profile and very satisfied; however, should I need to match to S-Cinetone, this was a great tutorial. Thanks!

@hendyadams6659 3 года назад

Great video - Thank you. Any chance you could check the settings that should be used on the new Sony ZV E-10? Once again thanks

@siddj08 8 месяцев назад

Thank you ZV-1 master!!! Would it be a good idea to bump up the detail level closer to 0 if I wanted a sharper image? If I didn't want to add it in post?

@angkolmirisi Год назад

Hi do you have s cinetone for zve10? thanks great video

@saaancheeezzz 3 года назад

Just in time. Yesterday I bought the ZV1 as a B Cam to my FX3 and this is great news. I'll try the settings myself. Thanks for sharing and keep the ZV1 content coming.

@orjan37 Год назад

Thanks for this! Works great on my zv e 10. I also find it is great for photos. Have you tried? What do you think?

@mikestealth3776 3 года назад

Thank you so much for this

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thank you, Im happy your getting value from these videos

@raulrudge7708 3 года назад

You nailed it, but I'll still keep using HGL2.

@DBDHeLlSKiLLeR Год назад

Will these settings work with my Sony A7C?

@LeandroBighetti Год назад

this is awesome ! the best scinetone for the zv1! one question: you set knee to manual with what value? pp 10 had 100% with slope to +5, is that right ?

@lmhkt 2 года назад

Great video - May I ask if this could be applied to the ZV-E10 as well? That should also be on Sony's new color science. Thanks!

@DutchUltra 3 года назад

impressive!!!!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks, thats very nice of you

@ClassicCyclingCC 2 года назад

Excellent! Solved 1 of my problems.

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

thanks! do you have the zv1?

@ClassicCyclingCC 2 года назад

@@thefilmalliance Yes I do. I have both the ZV1 and A7SIII. I found it difficult to match colors between the 2 in post when using Cinetone with A7SIII. Your tutorial helped a lot.

@LS-is5ob 8 месяцев назад

does this also apply to the zv e10?

@thefilmalliance 8 месяцев назад

I would say yes

@davidfarriol10 3 года назад

Bravo

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

I really appreciate that. Thank you

@mkoenig57 2 года назад

Easily the best ZV-1 content on RU-vid! Thanks for all these awesome tutorials. Question: I really don't want to spend much time color grading footage. Will these settings (with a little bit of basic grading you mention) really look that much better than the picture profiles straight-out-of-camera? (I guess I need to experiment!) I'm really struggling whether all these custom profiles are worth it, when the PP1[movie] looks pretty good, or PP6[Cine2] works pretty well also.

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it. Yes, the settings will look better than the picture profiles, straight out of camera.

@kudos2writers 2 года назад

Hi, Joe! Your videos are terrific! The Sony ZV-1 is my First real camera in years. Can I use this picture profile as the default for taking pictures and videos? I mainly want to take pictures and videos of my dog and nature scenes

@mwright154 Год назад

Would also like to know this, going on a vacation to spots that don't allow a DSLR so just got this camera and going through videos/settings. I've never color graded so wondering if I should shoot in this PP or just use A Priority when shooting to keep it simple.

@locaalicia_jp 3 года назад

It is a detailed study, wow!

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thank you, I created a video on picture profiles, have you seen that one?

@locaalicia_jp 3 года назад

@@thefilmalliance Which video? Please tell me the URL

@albeirocuesta1 3 года назад

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@thefilmalliance 3 года назад

Thanks for all the support:)

@BrunoMizogutti 3 года назад

and the A7III is the same settings???

@CodeDeb 2 года назад

How is this with skin tones?

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Hi Deb, It is great! Way better than skin tones straight out of camera

@evansalina Год назад

I dont care abou tthis camera but clicked on this because I love The Game lol

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Haha

@leechafertravels 2 года назад

Genius! 🤯👍🏻

@thefilmalliance 2 года назад

Thanks Lee, I really appreciate it.

@Hum4yaar 11 месяцев назад

Amazing

@samueldadams 2 года назад

extremely helpful thank you

@vickynegrett Год назад

Thanks for this content! does this setting perform well with skin tones?

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Yes, it absolutely does.

@johnzheng1168 2 года назад

it works well. nice!

@austinch3138 Год назад

thanks again! :)

@gregsvlogshow 3 года назад

Cool! Thanks!

@AncestryMindset Год назад

Brother what is the best camera for videography and content creation when it comes to natural cinematic colour.. without the need of editing or Colour grade it on software editor. Like i just prefer a camera where I can set the perfect settings and shoot then upload it on social media without colour grading.

@thefilmalliance Год назад

So I think the first question we have to ask is, what are you primarily shooting?

@AncestryMindset Год назад

@@thefilmalliance for cinematic sport/wild short vlogs reels. I might buy Sony fx30 but still not sure brother. I trust you. That’s why I’m here.

@SilverVagabonds 2 года назад

I am trying to match my ZV1 to my A7III for S-Cinetone…Could I use the same settings for both?.

@roger2186 2 года назад

Hi there. I have the zv1 and would like to edit the 4k video. I plan to buy a pc, but realize graphics cards are quite expensive. Do I need a graphics card if I am not going to colour grade?

@thewizard40 Год назад

I must say bigThanks for that video. These settings are incredible on my footages. I keep on watching your videos everyday and they helped me to improve my skills.

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Thanks, that’s very nice of you. How do you like your Zv1?

@thewizard40 Год назад

@@thefilmalliance I applied the settings to ZV-e10

@thefilmalliance Год назад

Oh haha, (I forgot that you could do that) how do you like your Zve10 then?

@thewizard40 Год назад

@@thefilmalliance I really like the ZV-E10. I bought the camera + 3 lenses. I should have waited the ZV-E1 for best stabilisation :)