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@brachio1000
@brachio1000 8 лет назад
Flying 130 mph at 10,000 feet with no heat, oxygen, or parachute in machines that were much newer than home computers are now and had an engine that sounds like a modern grass mower. And somewhere out there, perhaps hiding in the sun, are the Fokkers with the red-themed paint scheme. The bravery of the WWI airmen, all of them, astounds me.
@StewartNicolasBILLYCONNOLLY
@StewartNicolasBILLYCONNOLLY 7 лет назад
brachio1000 the bravery was mainly confined to the Airmen of the Royal Flying Corps and their opponents in the German Air Force. Then maybe one...or two of the Americans who turned up three years late as they would again in December 1941. The Bravery of the American fighting man is exactly the same as any fighting man anywhere. The cowardice was of the United States Government, who, during both World Wars, sat there on the fence, selling arms to both sides.
@Maverick25ish
@Maverick25ish 7 лет назад
Yeah it must of taken guts and balls of steel to dogfight in those fokkers lol
@janekulik4333
@janekulik4333 7 лет назад
brachio1000 ь
@Pynaegan
@Pynaegan 6 лет назад
@ Stewart Nicol as BILLY CONNOLLY And had ya'll gotten off yer asses and assisted the Confederacy back in 1861, perhaps ya'll would have been better off...?
@chev6art
@chev6art 6 лет назад
I think the Allies would've won without us, but maybe not until the early '20's some time and with many millions more casualties. The Von Schlieffen Plan was in trouble within 3 months after is was implemented.
@gene2200
@gene2200 8 месяцев назад
The entire engine spins around a fixed crank, crazy design.
@martshearer498
@martshearer498 7 месяцев назад
The engine was lubricated with castor oil, which can be absorbed through the skin with the same effect as ingesting it. Much respect to the pilots.
@rescue270
@rescue270 7 месяцев назад
These were the first radial engines, due to the manner in which the cylinders are mounted radially on the crankcase. The earliest radial engines were of the rotary type. The design was first developed to be an integral part of the wheels of early motorcycles. Usually a small five cylinder radial engine mounted in the wheel with the crankshaft serving as the axle and the cylinders and crankcase rotating with the wheel. No clutch or gears, the engine stopped whenever the bike stopped, and that was a difficult aspect. The German Megola is an example, with the "motorwheel" in the front. The need for gearing and the necessity to stop and restart the whole machine every time the rider had to stop for traffic caused this design to become obsolete in motorcycles by the early 1920s. However, these rotary radial engines in early motorcycles proved themselves to be light and powerful, and, since the cylinders were always spinning in the air, they did not have cooling troubles experienced by other designs. These factors quickly led to the development of larger versions to be installed on early aircraft, where their use is best known.
@stevenpollard5171
@stevenpollard5171 19 дней назад
@@martshearer498it is truly amazing to me that someone thought to have the entire engine spinning around a fixed crankshaft!. And that it would work!
@johnhood9567
@johnhood9567 2 дня назад
As many early aviation students will doubtless know, it is often noted that the rotary engine with its cylinders spinning at the same rpm as the prop contributed significantly to the maneuverability of types with this kind of engine; a short "moment" (the length of the fuselage) and a rotary engine combined to produce a type that would be inherently unstable particularly along the roll and yaw axes, which is actually desirable for a fighter, such as the Sopwith Camel or Fokker Dr I. It is said that Camel pilots often chose to go 270 deg right instead of 90 deg left to turn left, as the aircraft turned so handily in the direction of the spin. There were disadvantages; if there was a power loss on takeoff, the weight of the dead but still spinning cylinders would flip the aircraft upside down and violently to the ground, often a fatal incident, hence the reputation of the Camel as a widowmaker for novice pilots.
@taggartlawfirm
@taggartlawfirm 4 года назад
There will never be another fighter like the Camel. Short coupled, stabilizer a little small, and with huge gyroscope up front. In a spin it could turn three times completely while losing only a hundred feet. It could almost do a 180 by thinking. If a enemy was on your tail you could almost reverse directly back at him. In the hands of an expert it was an untouchable fighter. In the hands of a beginner it was a death trap, it would stall and spin before you could think, though recovery was gentle if you could get past the shock of whirling like a top. The Gnome “single valve” was one of the best engine of the era and for its day very reliable. It did however have a few quirks, it pumped castor oil fumes into the cockpit at low speeds, which could make the pilot sick. This was because there was no exhaust manifold, exhaust just spewed out under the cowling to go wherever, and noxious stinking castor oil was the lubricant of choice. The engine had no throttle. Instead power was controlled by a series of switches called Manettes, that would hold open the valve on individual cylinders, cutting out compression. Later models used a switch that ground out the spark plugs on 3, 6, or all 9 cylinders, cutting power on and off by that much, but if careless pilot didn’t also reduce or cut off the fuel flow, or cycle through the cylinders, the spark plugs could oil up from the unburned fuel oil mix and become unable to spark until manually cleaned. The system was controlled by a button on the stick that would cut ignition on and off when pressed and released like a gun trigger. This method was called “blipping” by English pilots, presumably from the sound. I don’t know what term the French used to refer to the practice. The Gnome was also used in the Nueport 28, and (I kid you not) by the Germans built at the Obersel plant under license from the French. (🤦🏻‍♂️) When I was in elementary school I was obsessed with WW1 fighters and read everything there was to read about the camel, including interviews conducted in the 50’s of surviving Camel pilots (one of whom also flew spits.) I would give a lot to fly a Camel.
@AndrewLale-mr9jm
@AndrewLale-mr9jm 9 месяцев назад
One of the best comments I've ever read on RU-vid. Highly informative.
@daveknight8410
@daveknight8410 8 месяцев назад
😮😅😂😊
@Dude0020
@Dude0020 8 месяцев назад
You’d most certainly give you life
@taggartlawfirm
@taggartlawfirm 8 месяцев назад
@@Dude0020 maybe, but that’s not the point is it.
@IncogNito-gg6uh
@IncogNito-gg6uh 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for this!
@charlesfoster141
@charlesfoster141 7 месяцев назад
Finest rotary engine demo I have ever seen and I am 70 years old.
@DavidSmith-xs3or
@DavidSmith-xs3or 8 лет назад
I can only imagine an airfield in France with a dozen of those rotaries starting up at the same time back in 1917. The sound.
@Pynaegan
@Pynaegan 6 лет назад
...the aesthetics, the style, the nostalgia.... The absolute courage of *manning* such new and uncertain technology! To combat and champion their beliefs on *both* sides of the conflict! It's amazing that these planes even got off the ground because these men had *BALLS* !
@pramuribwan5209
@pramuribwan5209 5 лет назад
@@Pynaegan balls the size of cantaloupes. Hats off to the pioneering aviators!
@terencewood5186
@terencewood5186 5 лет назад
@@pramuribwan5209 k9
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 5 лет назад
​@@Pynaegan Many of them had less than a 50% chance of surviving for 21 days.
@davidsmith4416
@davidsmith4416 5 лет назад
An airfield in France. The sound and the stench of castor oil.
@FAS1948
@FAS1948 8 месяцев назад
The rate of development during the 20th century still amazes me. My father lived from before the first powered flight until after the first moon landing, and I started work in a large company that had no computers and retired from a company that had more computers than people.
@handyearly3653
@handyearly3653 7 месяцев назад
As my Grandmother did, it is amazing how humans can, when they put their minds to it, create and explore; it’s sad that every invention can and has been used for destruction or so it seems.
@leechjim8023
@leechjim8023 7 месяцев назад
It seems that politicians view the greatest new inventions only for their destructive and killing capabilities☹️
@daemonwhitebeard6590
@daemonwhitebeard6590 3 года назад
Snoopy was right choosing a Sopwith Camel for his aircraft. Love the sound of them.
@Susseditout
@Susseditout Год назад
LOL
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 8 месяцев назад
Biggles also flew one of these.
@johnough4893
@johnough4893 7 месяцев назад
@@nigeldepledge3790 I was going to say that!
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 6 месяцев назад
Should have been a Sopwith Pup.
@fixman88
@fixman88 6 месяцев назад
I was wondering how far I would have to read down the comments to see a Snoopy reference!
@satidog
@satidog 9 лет назад
I've read that the effect of this torque in the air made the Sopwith one of the hardest planes to master but it also enabled pilots to make a shockingly sharp turn that could give the best of them a huge advantage against other pursuit planes.
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 8 лет назад
+satidog It's complex. The rotating weight of the engine did create big gyroscopic effects. Combined with the fact that on the Camel, everything heavy was packed into a sort of 'bath tub' at the front of the plane... They were not an easy or intuitive plane to fly. People who were good pilots (and good learners) could extract real benefits from the odd effects. Most could not. The most obvious effect was the Camel turned very quickly and abruptly to the right, and hardly at all to the left... The Camel was the single most effective allied fighter, in terms of how many it shot down. But that is partly because there were a lot of Camels in service, and because you learned quite a bit about flying quite quickly or it killed you, and makes no mention that Camels killed more people (by about 2:1) than any other WW1 aeroplane, as a result of accidents and crashes and mishaps. It was tricky to get things right in a Camel - it was very easy to get them wrong.
@Pynaegan
@Pynaegan 6 лет назад
@ Kneedragon1962. Apparently Snoopy wasn't very good at that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pTTDHHkQSFY.html
@MarsFKA
@MarsFKA 5 лет назад
@@Pynaegan "Curse you, Red Baron!"
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 4 года назад
@@Kneedragon1962 I was going to say, if you got behind a Camel you could be pretty sure it was going to turn to the right.
@justinharvey1355
@justinharvey1355 3 года назад
The Camel was a pain in the ass to fly due to the engine torque, but in hands of the right pilots, they gave every other fighter a run for their money.
@Susseditout
@Susseditout Год назад
What a time to live, incredible time, machinery, strife, life and death. Nothing like today. What an era.
@paulnicholson1906
@paulnicholson1906 8 месяцев назад
a pilots life expectancy was only 3 weeks. My grandad was in the trenches from Feb 1915 to July 1916. He was lucky to survive and nearly didn't. He spent two years in hospitals. Two of my grandmothers brothers were killed as was my grandad's brother. Living in peace is a better option. My grandad always said they should make the politicians go in the forward trenches and make them fight so it would be over quickly. He hardly ever talked about it but after he died we saw in his personal effects the records showing what he had been through.
@cinnamanstera6388
@cinnamanstera6388 8 лет назад
World war 1 aviators and aircraft always amaze me. Those people were literally writing the books on flying and aerial combat as they fought a war.
@alfnoakes392
@alfnoakes392 8 лет назад
And without parachutes ...
@aeromodeller1
@aeromodeller1 4 года назад
Dicta Boelcke. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicta_Boelcke
@kennyj4366
@kennyj4366 4 года назад
@@alfnoakes392 they had them, not everyone used them. Not as reliable them like today.
@redblack8414
@redblack8414 11 месяцев назад
@@kennyj4366 The Germans started to use the parachute in 1917. The British were forbidden to use them because the High Command thought that many pilots would jump instead of facing the enemy!
@dougshiner9180
@dougshiner9180 8 месяцев назад
​@ufoburnoutI'm curious. What was this manual called? Where could I find or download a copy.
@steveperry1344
@steveperry1344 8 месяцев назад
i got to see a plane with a rotary engine when i was a kid around 1960 and it sputtered alot and almost cutting out as it ran and then flew. i don't remember if it was a sopwith camel or maybe some kind of nieuport. it left a lasting memory with me and i have a photo somewhere of myself standing next to it wearing a leather helmet with goggles and trying to look like eddie rickenbacker. i was about 10 years old and had built models of a lot of the world war one planes.
@robinj.9329
@robinj.9329 2 года назад
Most of today's young "Pilots" don't even know there were two types of "Radial" engines back then. "Static" radials we know about from their success in WW2, and these Rotating radials of WW1. Where the entire engine ROTATED with the prop!. This was done for two reasons. COOLING, to have plenty of air flowing over the cylinders. And for better distribution of the oil inside the engine. I've never flown a "Rotary". But, when I was first learning to fly as a kid back in the 60's, I meet plenty of old timers that had lots of experience with them!
@JPofCT
@JPofCT 11 лет назад
I personally find it nice to just listen to the sound of a unique engine from time to time. Rotaries aren't that common, and it's nice to take in the sound of an era long since passed. But that's how I feel.
@mpccenturion
@mpccenturion 7 месяцев назад
My grandfather was a pilot and flew during the last of ww1. He told me that the engines torque was so heavy that he could make 270 deg turns using the engine - trying to pull a 90 against the torque meant you were flying steady for too long to nòt get killed. As HE said - any farmer can fly.
@JackF99
@JackF99 8 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for this video. To clarify it's not the torque of the produced by the engine causing the wings to rock. It's the reaction to the inertia of the engine's rotating mass when the RPM changes.
@historicalmachines
@historicalmachines 8 месяцев назад
You are correct
@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 7 месяцев назад
“Those magnificent men and their flying machines”
@rloh91
@rloh91 12 лет назад
A blip switch cuts the ignition to some of the cylinders in the motor. Camels and their rotary engines did not have a throttle in the sense of controlling the fuel flow to the engine since the did not have carburetors, when a rotary engine is on; it is full throttle. The only way to control the power that the engine was outputting was to temporarily cut the ignition mechanism in some of the cylinders in the engine to assist with maneuvering. Hope that helped, fact check me if I am wrong.
@rescue270
@rescue270 7 месяцев назад
The Clerget engine used in most Camels was available with a throttled carburetor that was at least marginally effective.
@Steeyuv
@Steeyuv 4 года назад
Visited Wairapa in 2019 while they were practising - the Camel was like hearing nine BSA Gold Stars revving up in unison. Amazing sound.
@j.b.macadam6516
@j.b.macadam6516 8 месяцев назад
These rotary engines gave the Sopwith, the DR1 Triplane and others, a really wicked right turn that could not be matched by in-line engine aircraft of the time!
@andrewroberts7428
@andrewroberts7428 8 месяцев назад
it looks like the force of the engine is being applied to the plane's left though, which would mean the rotary force would be applied while turning left, and would counteract a right turn
@j.b.macadam6516
@j.b.macadam6516 8 месяцев назад
@@andrewroberts7428It does appear that way, but if you research the issue, you will find out about the right hand turn.
@martiantexan7632
@martiantexan7632 3 года назад
Back when it took huge balls to be a pilot! Love it.
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 8 месяцев назад
In that conflict, it also took massive cojones to be an infantryman.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 7 месяцев назад
@@nigeldepledge3790 Or really be just about anybody. WWI was not a particularly great time to be alive for many people.
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 7 месяцев назад
And these days someone piloting a camber you think it’s any less difficult???
@martiantexan7632
@martiantexan7632 7 месяцев назад
@@Rob-vv5yn Yes I think it was much more difficult when aviation was in it's infancy it was experimental technology, learning by fatal mistakes, pilots had no pressurized heated cabins or parachutes, and they were taking them into war. So, yes, the pilots flying then were much more prepared and likely to die than any modern pilot. What makes you think it wasn't more difficult?
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 7 месяцев назад
@@martiantexan7632 it really depends on the aircraft I can fly a glider and you can learn in a few hours but to learn to safety fly in all conditions that becomes a 100 hours. To fly a twin light plane it becomes even more complex and goes on and on each higher performance aircraft. However this camel in the video is a high performance ww1 fighter it’s just as hard to fly as it was over a hundred years a go and no the pilot doesn’t wear a parachute or have any modern instruments. So it is just as difficult to fly as she was back then to fly and just as dangerous.
@Workerbee-zy5nx
@Workerbee-zy5nx 9 месяцев назад
I think those Sopwith Camels were the best flyers during ww1. That bird is beautiful, sounds like the the correct engine in it.
@onusgumboot5565
@onusgumboot5565 7 месяцев назад
The original engines didn't have a throttle. Full on or off. This one idles occasionally, so it is updated to some degree. When they came in to land you would hear the engine cut out, then come on over and over, as the pilot tried to slow down.
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 7 месяцев назад
@@onusgumboot5565 your wrong this is an original engine BTW I’ve seen it fly plenty of times and spoken with the then pilot and engineer. It is of course rebuilt and they now make exact copies of this engine for sale to people with money to put in their WW1 fighters.
@sr633
@sr633 9 лет назад
An important piece of our past that deserves saving. Thanks for the huge job of keeping this aircraft airworthy.
@theoldshooter9011
@theoldshooter9011 7 месяцев назад
I got to fly a Spearman in Utah many years ago. The pilot told me to watch what would happen if it went slower than 60 mph. It basically fell out of the sky!! Then he said it was mine....fly it. One the highlights of my life.
@ashleycharlesworth8358
@ashleycharlesworth8358 9 лет назад
Whenever I play a flight sim or a combat flight sim they're always missing the raw sound of the engine and the difference in tone between on throttle, off throttle and I've never seen a flight sim that shows cool stuff like the exhausts firing when the engines slowing down. Little touches but they'd be cool, awesome video!
@t4iga121
@t4iga121 7 лет назад
Louise Charlesworth flight Sims are mostly about the controls it seems. Have you tried DCS or ArmA 3 yet?
@jamesharrison6201
@jamesharrison6201 3 года назад
Well, when the crankshaft is attached to the airframe and the cylinders rotate around the stationary crankshaft, I'm surprised he didn't have the wingtips kissing the ground
@521cjb
@521cjb 8 месяцев назад
That's one thing that killed a lot of beginners.
@nickfury1279
@nickfury1279 5 лет назад
Due to the massive amount of torque the rotary engine put out, the plane would actually climb when turning to the left, and descend when turning to the right. Pilots had to compensate for both when flying the Camel. Also the torque generated meant this plane struggled in left turns at full power. But if you wanted to turn right, it would whip itself around faster than a rattlesnake on crack
@theGarageBandHero
@theGarageBandHero 26 дней назад
This is why many pilots called it un controllable. The entire plane will bank left easily but it’s very hard to bank right. I guess many pilots would cut back on throttle to turn right.
@boner1952
@boner1952 8 лет назад
You can see where the maneuverability came from, and why the Sopwith camel was the highest scoring fighter of the first world war. However, they were bears to fly until you got use to them so i have read. Quite a high percentage of new pilots didn't get it right to their cost.
@KylleinMacKellerann
@KylleinMacKellerann 10 лет назад
Many of the planes with either the Gnome or Oberusel rotary engines had oversized ailerons on one side to help counter the torque. The main method of engine speed control was to short out the magneto since these engines didn't have a real or controllable carburetor. Good pilots made the engine's torque work for them in combat, left turns being faster than right turns.
@petercousins1645
@petercousins1645 8 месяцев назад
Not a rotary engine, it's a radial engine
@rescue270
@rescue270 7 месяцев назад
@@petercousins1645 It is a radial, but designed to rotate around it's crankshaft. These were also known as rotaries- not to be confused with Wankel engines. Wankels should more properly be known as "rotor engines" due to their rotors.
@ErieRadio
@ErieRadio 9 месяцев назад
The rotary engine had so much torque to the right… it made turning left difficult. Pilot accounts say it was faster to turn 270 degrees right, instead of trying to get the plane to turn 90 degrees left.
@garyharrall4002
@garyharrall4002 6 лет назад
It was a scary time. Not only for pilots of ww1 but also the ground troops on both sides. Hard to rap your mind around the death toll in that war. Especially in just one battle alone the death toll was astronomical. Rich man's war fought by poor young men.
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 года назад
It's a good thing, that the rich man's war, fought by the poor, is a thing of the past!
@chrispoleson6118
@chrispoleson6118 3 года назад
Workers killing workers. I would have liked to have seen them unite & turn on the wealthy bastards who started & continued it for way too long.
@johnduheaume6650
@johnduheaume6650 8 месяцев назад
@@sparky6086 NOT!
@jameslonergan5850
@jameslonergan5850 8 месяцев назад
Old Rhinebeck aerodrome has an Avro 504, Camel, and Fokker D 8 with rotary engines. Their DR 1 has a regular radial engine.
@rescue270
@rescue270 7 месяцев назад
Probably a Warner Scarab in the Dreidecker Einz. Lots of WWI replicas use Warner engines due to their similar size to the originals.
@521cjb
@521cjb 8 месяцев назад
The reason that engine has so much precession (P factor) - instead of a crankshaft that turns, the whole cylinder bank rotates and the crankshaft is fixed to the airframe. In essence, the entire engine was rotating, so one hell of a gyroscope. I guess that was to keep it cool. It is cool, crazy but cool.
@Pete856
@Pete856 10 лет назад
All of these comments, about whether or not this engine is a radial or rotary or a mix of both, have missed one basic fact. In a standard engine (radial included) the pistons, con rods etc. move up and down in the cylinder by changing direction of travel many times a second. This puts huge amounts of strain on things and limits maximum engine speed. In a rotary engine like the Gnome, the pistons move in and out of the cylinders because they are spinning on a different central axis than the cylinders.....because on one side the piston's central axis is closer to the cylinders than the other side it causes the in out motion without the pistons ever changing direction. This design puts far less strain on the pistons and con rods, but does put centrifugal force on the cylinders. It also makes the aircraft hard to handle as centrifugal force doesn't like changes in direction and will react in a 90 degree direction when change of direction is applied....ie the aircraft will climb when turned to the left and dive when turned to the right.
@timberwolfdtproductions3890
@timberwolfdtproductions3890 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for that; I think other people, like me, find this confusing because normally “rotary” refers to a Wankel engine, not the design in this Camel.
@petercousins1645
@petercousins1645 8 месяцев назад
Rotary engine does not have pistons !
@Pete856
@Pete856 8 месяцев назад
@@petercousins1645 You mean a Wankel engine doesn't have pistons. Rotary engines like the Gnome do...Google it.
@Dbeattie299
@Dbeattie299 5 месяцев назад
That sounds amazing. I love those old engines.
@Pynaegan
@Pynaegan 6 лет назад
It's amazing that these planes got off the ground at all with the *balls of brass* the pilots sported!
@patsmith8523
@patsmith8523 Год назад
I was of the impression that it wasn't so much the torque, but the placement of the engine. It made the Camel fly more like a gyroscope. It also made it unstable. These issues were corrected in the Sopwith Snipe.
@axlandgamer3332
@axlandgamer3332 7 лет назад
My WWI favorite, also the SE5As and the SPADs.
@myfavoritemartian1
@myfavoritemartian1 9 месяцев назад
All the old rotaries were like that. No throttle, just an interrupter switch. ON/OFF Pure beast!
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 8 месяцев назад
I have heard restored WW1 a/c fly at the Old Rhinebeck Museum and restoration centre in New York State, USA, several times. You never rid yourself of the doubt of whether the pilot blipped the interrupter switch, or the darn thing stalled. Having several in the air at the same time is a unique feast of sight and sound, especially in their daily demonstration dogfighting. Remarkable.
@Fritztoons
@Fritztoons 12 лет назад
Seems to be that New Zealand is the current place to see, hear smell all those rare WW1 planes. Thank you HAFUVideo for sharing.
@johnrhoads7058
@johnrhoads7058 7 месяцев назад
The US had the little 'Jennys' at Call Field in Wichita Falls, Texas. I have been told more pilots died in training accidents than in combat. Until about 2019, there was a flying Jenny in W Falls. Now, it is on permanent static display at the municipal airport. I loved seeing it fly. The museum group auctioned off a ride in the final flight, fetching $35,000.
@profsat5
@profsat5 10 лет назад
Aww the torque of the old Gnome Rotary.Heard it was hell to fly.
@TheRoyalBavarian
@TheRoyalBavarian 10 месяцев назад
My great uncle was said to have flown these in the Great War. Sadly he passed before I ever heard of his experience.
@markanthony3275
@markanthony3275 8 месяцев назад
I saw early footage of an original starting up during WW1, and it twisted and shook a lot more than that, the whole fusilage was moving like a skipping rope.
@Threetails
@Threetails 11 лет назад
That engine was a wonder of its age, though sadly obsolete nowadays. Still beautiful to see it running.
@jameslonergan5850
@jameslonergan5850 8 месяцев назад
The rotary right dive, left climb gave rise to the popular reason for the starboard islands of aircraft carriers.
@ronnieholt3863
@ronnieholt3863 4 года назад
That thing is timed perfectly also
@mawilkinson1957
@mawilkinson1957 6 месяцев назад
I remember building a model of this plane when I was 8 or 9 years old. It came out well.
@davidpeters6536
@davidpeters6536 8 месяцев назад
Whoever designed an engine where the cylinders rotate around a stationary crankshaft must have been crazy. Still it worked and helped to defeat Kaiser Wilhelm's Germany, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
@danlefou
@danlefou 11 лет назад
Rotary engines are, by default, radial, i.e. the cylinders radiate from the crankshaft. When rotaries were common, up to the 1920s, people spoke of rotaries and stationary radials to distinguish between the two types. The word 'stationary' has lapsed over time, but, with renewed interest in WW1-era aircraft, perhaps it should now be revived to avoid confusion, at least in discussion of vintage types.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 4 года назад
_"Don't come a-knockin' when the Sopwith is a-rockin'."_ 😜😜😜
@pbyrne1400
@pbyrne1400 6 лет назад
That’s one ANGRY radial, I love the torque twist to the air frame..
@historicalmachines
@historicalmachines 6 лет назад
It is cool, isn't it? However its not a radial engine, it's a rotary engine (the whole engine spins about the crankshaft), which is what is producing all the torque.
@blackterminal
@blackterminal 6 месяцев назад
Biggles pulls his goggles down, Do you want to be a hero starts playing. Perfection.
@tmscheum
@tmscheum 8 месяцев назад
In just a few short years after the Wright brothers first flight they built this plane and men FOUGHT with it!
@LiveFastRaceHard
@LiveFastRaceHard 10 месяцев назад
That spudder at 0:55 sounded amazing! They must be one heck of a memorable flight!
@iangandy6105
@iangandy6105 10 лет назад
What a beautiful flying machine!
@historicalmachines
@historicalmachines 12 лет назад
Yes, this is the same Camel that lost its cowling during a display flight in 2001. Check out our other videos to find a clip of that incident.
@brucefoster2289
@brucefoster2289 8 месяцев назад
I remember reading of these. Rigged so tail heavy it would"zoom and stall" if you weren't always pushing forward. And experienced boys would often control throttle via the mixture. So often the engine might choke and quit just after take off. By starting lean you knew which way to turn the mixture when she she started to miss. Everyone's nightmare, no altitude, no runway, no airspeed
@cestmirdofek9115
@cestmirdofek9115 8 лет назад
fantastické co naší předkové dokazali vyrobit bez počítačů a mderních cnc soustruhů
@scharlesworth93
@scharlesworth93 7 лет назад
Take off, man!
@tede.kulhawik7614
@tede.kulhawik7614 2 года назад
I heard somewhere that rotary engines didn't have throttles, the rpms were controlled by an on off switch to the ignition, and that they later were deemed impractical because they couldn't grow to big.
@historicalmachines
@historicalmachines 2 года назад
Yes, that's pretty much correct.
@THE-HammerMan
@THE-HammerMan 8 месяцев назад
My old Oster Commercial Bar Mixer sounded just like that. It didn't fly, but you were flying after a couple pitchers of margaritas!
@shawndubay3736
@shawndubay3736 7 лет назад
If I was around then and of age I would make every one of those engines a throttle butterfly like in a auto carburetor or throttle body. Flippin the ignition to fire on a couple cylinders for an idle sounds aggravating and can't be good on those engines. But they made it work. They flew great and did what they had to do.
@JonnieCometLtd
@JonnieCometLtd 12 лет назад
This is very cool. I am enthralled by the actual tone of the engine-- sounds almost wimpy, except that knowing it's over twice the power of a Piper Cub sitting in a lightweight all-wood frame keeps things in perspective.
@chardtomp
@chardtomp 12 лет назад
I can imagine the torque effect that rotating engine had on that very light air frame. It's little wonder they had so many takeoff and landing accidents.
@LBG-cf8gu
@LBG-cf8gu 11 дней назад
you'd get airsick standing still, with what passes for "flight idle" lol! i like the camel better than the spad. jmo of course. thanks for uploading.
@brkbtjunkie
@brkbtjunkie 8 месяцев назад
Reminds me of my 1982 Volvo 240DL
@acrobaticcripple8176
@acrobaticcripple8176 5 лет назад
Imagine the tune, and then. "There ain't nothin' like a Gnome!" Definitely music!
@woooster17
@woooster17 10 лет назад
The negative side of its flight characteristics were also it's positives.. It gave it great flight handling/turning performance. It apparently turned faster to the right (I think) than to the left! Tricky machine to master..
@ufxpnv
@ufxpnv 8 месяцев назад
It'd not the torque, it's the weigh and imbalance of the engine. The Sopwith Camel's engine and prop turn while the crank is held stationary. Being hand/prop started, the weight of the engine gave it the inertia to start easier than just the weight of the propeller. It wasn't until later that they figured out it was easier to balance a prop than an entire engine. Besides the later inline engines wouldn't be able to be balanced to be used in the same manner.
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 3 года назад
Can you imagine the men who flew these probably never drove a car might not have ever gone farther then the next town suddenly are flying 130 mph at 10k feet high.
@turbocompound
@turbocompound 8 лет назад
I can imagine, that is isn't easy, flying such an aircraft. The rotating mass is enormous, isn't it?
@historicalmachines
@historicalmachines 8 лет назад
+turbocompound That big hunk of rotating metal is pretty impressive, yes.
@SeaHarrierFA2
@SeaHarrierFA2 8 лет назад
+turbocompound In WWI this aircraft was known for weeding out lesser-skilled pilots in accidents
@stevenlamb3971
@stevenlamb3971 6 лет назад
Think about this... The many forces acting on a tail dragger during takeoff. You have the torque of the prop (and motor in the case of a rotary) twisting the aircraft left. Then you have the rotary turbulence of the prop wash hitting the vertical stabilizer pushing it to the right, turning the aircraft left. Then during rotation pulling the tail up to level you have gyroscopic forces of the prop and motor (like spinning a bike wheel really fast and then trying to turn it) which is also trying to turn the aircraft, left of course, since gyroscopic forces work 90° past the input force. Crazy. Nice video BTW.
@nickbarber2080
@nickbarber2080 8 месяцев назад
What a beauty....
@frederickdominguez4829
@frederickdominguez4829 7 месяцев назад
I could only imagine the p factor on this beauty
@JPofCT
@JPofCT 11 лет назад
I was just trying to simplify what the announcer said. But, now I know how blipping really works, thanks.
@flashgordon3715
@flashgordon3715 8 месяцев назад
Which leads directly to aircraft carriers islands are always on the right side of the ship.
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 8 месяцев назад
Everything which Captain W.E. Johns wrote about the Camel is correct. An obscure reference, but some of you will get it.
@margin606
@margin606 8 месяцев назад
Not that obscure surely
@raypurchase801
@raypurchase801 7 месяцев назад
@@margin606 Readily understood by many British and Commonwealth males of a certain age. Generation Z African-Americans? Unlikely.
@jollyjohnthepirate3168
@jollyjohnthepirate3168 8 месяцев назад
It was said that German pilots never liked engaging a Camel because they never knew what the plane might do............that was true even the Camels own pilot might not know exactly what the Camel would do next. They were completely unstable and you dared not take your hand off the stick even for a moment as it was tail heavy combined with the torque effect of the rotary engine made them deadly for novice pilots. But in the hands of an experienced pilot their flight stability issues could be used to make the Sopwith a highly maneuverable killing machine.
@J.R._
@J.R._ 11 месяцев назад
I can hear the announcer giving totally incorrect information at 2:25 saying “the switch allows him to run on 3,6 or 9 cylinders”. I'm amazed at just how often this myth has been retold. It is completely false. Listen to the video. The pilot starts the engine on the left magneto and “blips” (complete ignition cut out) numerous times. Then he switches to right magneto on the “1” position which simply skips 4 cylinders within the complete revolution cycle before firing the next cylinder. It does this in the complete rotation of the firing order of 1-3-5-7-9-2-4-6-8. It does NOT run on 3,6 or 9 cylinders. It runs on ALL cylinders but allows a cut out in the right magneto to #3 half power, #2 quarter or #1 which is 1/8th power within the complete cycle of 2 revolutions. #4 is full power without any ignition cutout on the right magneto. Left mag is "on / off" only.
@Peter-vn6gl
@Peter-vn6gl 8 месяцев назад
Snoopy knew what was up!
@2Truth2you
@2Truth2you 10 месяцев назад
Good hand brake!
@ClergetMusic
@ClergetMusic 8 месяцев назад
An ancestor of mine invented that 9 cylinder rotary engine which was used in the WWI camels.
@feathermerchant
@feathermerchant 7 месяцев назад
It is not the torque, it is the rotating mass!
@wiscgaloot
@wiscgaloot 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, my 1973 BMW R75/5 did that too. :P
@soaphelps
@soaphelps 7 месяцев назад
"an elegant weapon for a more civilized age"
@0manoscar
@0manoscar 8 месяцев назад
I've heard that Camels had a maneuverability advantage turning to the right and a disadvantage turning to the left because of the effects of the engine torque.
@ianrkav
@ianrkav 7 месяцев назад
Sure it wasn't the other way? Looking at this video the left wing drops as he revs it which would suggest it would turn left faster as you have to roll before you can turn. I could be wrong though:-)
@JonnieCometLtd
@JonnieCometLtd 12 лет назад
Thanks for clearing this up for those who don't/won't/can't grasp it. :)
@josephfroman7135
@josephfroman7135 8 месяцев назад
Imagine trying to fly that thing with the entire weight of the engine spinning like a gyroscope. No wonder more pilots died learning to fly it.
@Landotter1
@Landotter1 10 лет назад
WOW, the torque on that engine....
@Penfold8
@Penfold8 9 лет назад
When the plane's a rockin don't come a knockin!
@notwocdivad
@notwocdivad 8 месяцев назад
Reverse torque effect. Certain makes of Motorcycles do the same. The ones in which the crankshaft runs for and aft not across the frame.
@tappedout300xc
@tappedout300xc 7 лет назад
Thats just bad ass .
@32plug
@32plug 7 месяцев назад
Just think, the first flight was in 1903. And 14 years later the camel was dogfighting over Europe.
@waynemetevia7983
@waynemetevia7983 8 месяцев назад
Amazing plane! Would love to be able to go for a ride in one of these.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 6 лет назад
Nice camera work with that shot of the porta-potty.
@rollingstopp
@rollingstopp 10 лет назад
Total rock n roll Early Days
@InThePaddock
@InThePaddock 11 лет назад
The torque from the engine is amazing
@rayprater5402
@rayprater5402 7 месяцев назад
That is a nice looking airplane
@smokeymcbongwater3561
@smokeymcbongwater3561 4 года назад
One wild air plane wow love it
@dougauzene8389
@dougauzene8389 5 лет назад
Immortal...
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