Sorcery Beta had an INSANE weekend - Sorcery TCG 

Wow the new playmat looks sick! About to pick one up now. I dont have a 4 player mat... so adding one to the collection with some awesome art is clutch. Thanks Louie keep it up, love the videos and content! Have a great day

Definitely want one but I just bought a crap ton of foils before the prices skyrocketed and all the artist playmats so I will have to hope these are available in the future once I have more fun money.

It looks awesome!

People are speculating that the print run for Beta was somewhere in the very large range of 60k - 100k boxes. So at the low end double the amount of alpha and on the high end almost 4× the amount of alpha. It's very easy in hindsight to go back and say what should or should not have happened but I'd say that anywhere in this speculated range was a healthy estimate at the time the decision to print beta was made.

Sales and events are surpassing expectations. Where is the information that nobody is playing? Where is the information that the game, where the meta decks consist of mostly ordinary/exceptional rarity, is for collectors only?

@@cardboard_battlefield The number of events firing outside of large cities is minimal at best. I saw more FFG LCGs being played at my local shop than Sorcery, and those are all dead games.

@@Dstinct Yes you have stores that has never even heard of Sorcery but you also have stores/hubs where the game is booming and events are growing in players and happening more often. That current process happens with all new TCGs. One of the two local LGSs don't even run pokemon or F&B events nor have any local support. That doesn't mean anything on the grand scale for those two games.

I hope your talking about another game cuz Sorcery is blowing up!!! Hater????

My LGS has 0 sorcery product and has no nights dedicated to Sorcery in the Kansas City Metro so it’s not like I’m in BFE. Lorcana SWU(which JUST launched) MTG, Pokémon and sports is all they do. Just doesn’t seem good for sorcery.

Not everyone, mine are in the collection closet Sold the single graded and selling playmat cards are gone for good

Thats all fine with me , i just hope i can get a few cases of the next set AL

You do bring up a fair point about next set, AL, selling out quickly now that Sorcery enthusiasts have seen the limited Beta supply sell out. That concern may have to be directly addressed by Sorcery.

@@RV_300 huh? selling out quickly is not a concern for any company on this planet. Not selling the product due to destroying collectability IS a concern.

Agreed, but not all companies on the planet want to leave money on the table. My concern is more about selling out quickly and LGSs not having product to help with community building.

@@RV_300 True some companies act out of greed wanting to not "leave money on the table" by over printing and they are now dead or permanently damaged their brand. Metazoo is the most recent example of dead. "leave money on the table" is literally want makes any collectable a collectable.

Yup

Bloomburrow has major hype and Pokemon is exploding. You can frame it all you want, but most people don't have your mindset and won't drop a TCG they've enjoyed for 10 to 20 years for sorcery. For most people, tcgs are a hobby. Not a once a year buyout.

lol the goat strikes again.

I have boxes and LOVE this game! I hope Erik and team walk this line well (I expect they will)… i wish the dragon mini set would have been released between now and AL. I think that could have helped with the 7 month delay. But they didn’t know when product would sell out to plan that.

AL is going to be a slightly smaller set, so even if they printed 60k boxes, there will be more copies of each card printed than in Beta. 90k would be way too high. (EDIT: Unless they drop down to 24 packs in a box)

Yeah let's create a player base without cards

@@stuvius If you can't afford some cheap cards maybe it's time to stop playing card games and go look for a job.

​@@silverwolf6866No one in my city is playing. Stores don't support play. What has the sorcery team done to encourage LGSs to have game nights? Sorcery wants the community to do all the heavy lifting. It's not about cheap or expensive cards.

@@CM-np5mc Yes, literally "no one" in your city is playing. You must have spent a lot of time knocking on doors. If I like the game, I play it and so do any normal people. No random business looking to take my money is going to decide what I play. Stores support play for anything that makes them MONEY. Sorcery does not make them money as they can't get wholesale boxes to dump on you.

Days, 6 months will be just enough time to save for many box cases.

When supply is low, prices tend to rise. When the next set releases, get in early as price will be stable for several months after release. As the game grows, a "revised" set may come up. If you are new to Sorcery, the 4 pre-constructed decks are an awesome way to start as well. Still available and great value for money.

True if you do payment through play network.

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I'm a sorcery fan, but I'd cool it with that Metazoo joke. I'm in a big city and there is no interest in sorcery by LGSs. Zero. Facebook groups have disbanded and there's no MSRP product for anyone just finding sorcery. I enjoyed opening sorcery, but with only one set so far, the desire to open it got stale really really quickly.

Sorcery's vision is to be your favorite side (secondary) game. I think this is really smart not to try and compete with the bigger companies/games. Some folks won't stick around due to the release tempo and product availability, but I think this can still work.

@@sandiegosnakesMy favorite secondary game is just a different MTG format, using cards I already own.

@@Dstinct Happy for ya man! I guess Sorcery isn't for you.

I wouldn't worry about newer games that sell very very well and continue to do so long after release. If AL comes out and sucks or doesn't sell, then it might be a time to worry.

Other than Lorcana I don't see the 'hot new' TCGs like One Piece, Star Wars, etc lasting. Sorcery I do think will last. The reason why is that those TCGs attract a lot of attention fast with their IP but then overtime people grow bored of the product or the company goes for a cash grab and tanks the market. Bandai and Fantasy Flight Games are very well known for that. Sorcery on the other hand is building grass roots highly dedicated players slowly and organically. Yeah it isn't going to happen fast, but the game is the best TCG I have played. Period. Between art quality, gameplay, community, etc, everything is 10/10 IMHO. Slow and steady wins the race.

hmm beta is still everywhere its just more expensive. If they want to get into it they are free to do so. Look at the price of a MTG collectors box.

Alpha print was 30k at Kickstarter and anyone who bought in for collecting/reselling has effectively 10x their money in 2 years. Nobody knows the beta print runs and with it selling out in half of expected times is more safe to say things are simply surpassing expectations. Not much else to say on it beyond personal opinion or future assumptions.

@@cardboard_battlefield Tell me you have a bag without telling me you have a bag, buy Goatcana and thank me in 10 years

dead game? it just started and seems very succesfull ,while all other card games decline in value , sorcery hasnt

​@@cardboard_battlefieldThat doesn't make it a game, it makes it a dying currency if more people aren't buying in

@@CrosswaIk Your using an "if" as the foundation for some point in an environment where there are and have been new players on board, hence the fast sell-through. I was only correcting the original trollish exaggeration of the original post.

As a collector and occasional player I would love them to print more beta. I have a lot of uniques left to get but I'm not paying 300+ a box

As of about a month ago, they said directly (on the official Discord) that they had no plans currently to print more Beta. Let's just take for the sake of the argument that they decided today to do a slightly smaller print run of Beta because TC ran out (unlikely they would even care about TC running out in order to make a decisions, but let's run with it), it would probably take 2 months to print/pack, and another 1-2 months to ship and hit distribution. We're talking, late-July, or August, at best based on the absolute best turnaround times. They also have to take into consideration the printing of AL in order to hit shelves in 4Q, like they are planning. Based on the historical timeline of the Beta print and distribution (which estimated to have started printing in June 2023 and no worldwide street date until NOVEMBER 2023) they have to basically start printing Beta today and probably not turn off the printers for AL until summer. TLDR, I'd wager that there is no Beta reprint until after AL, and at that point it's probably not "Beta" and instead a different product (Unlimited, Revised, whatever you want to call it)

@@akindlyorcSome estimate that prices will gradually decrease after the spike then go back up after AL release. Alpha will go up as well at the same time right now it’s at 1,200 a box.

Welp, see ya later.

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