I love how as soon as Kaburu mentions he was taken in by elves the whole group demenour shifts from being closed off to very receptive. Gives some nice subtle hints as to how the eleves of this world act towards the other races.
Pretty sure some of them also know his adoptive mom personally (Mithrun definitely does), so it’s like, “Oh! You’re *her* son? She talks about you a lot!” Suddenly, Kabru’s not just a human to them, he’s the little kid that his mom is so proud of.
I like how if you rewatch the show you can see the iconography of the winged lion absolutely covering the entire dungeon. The Alpha Living Armor colony that Laios got the sword from even had a lion for a head, and wings covering its body.
I've been noticing statues and other iconography of the winged lion in so many previous episodes while watching their reactions. It's actually kind of crazy how much it shows up and yet you don't even think anything of it until the reveal in this episode.
@@warrustfrom what ive seen people have been shockingly pretty good about not spoiling the biggest twists and reveals in the story. like ive seen people spoiling since the beginning that the show gets darker as well as some minor plot details here and there but ive barely seen anyone say anything about the winged lion unless someone has intentionally asked for spoilers. i just hope that trend continues now that the show has revealed its existence
@@luisjauregui2197 but they're in different ways, i think. izutsumi is a cat and human soul mixed together perfectly, while falin's case is a dragon soul kinda... mashed with a human's. chimera falin was made hastily
the sheep plant/barometz is also known as the Vegetable Lamb of Tartary, a legend originating in central asia and seems to have been inspired by cotton
Specifically, a traveler described a "plant which grows wool" (cotton), which in the imaginations of the mainland became interpreted as a literal sheep growing out of the earth.
I like how it is implied that the winged lion didn't give just this one prophecy about Laios, but gives prophetic dreams to the people of the Golden Country seemingly quite often, including the one that drove Delgal to run to the surface. Makes it much more believable and consistent in worldbuilding to have a prophetic source like that rather than just one world-changing prophecy around which everything in the world runs. Feels like antique Greece and the prophets of that era.
Early on, it was said that eating is the privilege of the living. Though the residents of the Golden Country live endlesssly, they have been robbed of that priviledge, and so are closer to dead than alive.
their existence might be more tolerable had thistle given them more but no he's so insane he doesn't even realise that keeping everyone trapped here is NOT helping them
I love that this episode hints about Izutsumi's true nature as an artificial beast-kin. She's not a human "pretending" to be a cat, she's a cat "pretending" to be a human.
in the manga, when asked why they keep monsters as livestock instead of regular animals, on top of them being easier to obtain its also explained that they live longer than surface animals so its more convenient
Animals and monster DO have souls, it's just that the Dungeon's immortality spell specifically targets human souls, as Marcille mentioned however long ago. The whole story with Falin's transformation hinges on the Dragon's soul, even.
Ah yes… the Canaries. Let's just say this ain't the first time Kabru's meeting them. (Not these ones particularly, just THAT one.) Seeing Laios be happy was great!😆
The sheep on the plant is Cotton. That's one of those historical "beliefs" generated by information spreading by word of mouth and by the time an illustrator got a description to draw it had boiled down to "sheep on a plant" there's some really nice history drawings of that.
1:11 Yes, that is 100% a mythical creature. The funny thing is the origin of this particular creature is speculated to have been a case of misunderstandings regarding the cotton plant, a case of a game of telephone regarding the details of a plant that gives off "wool" like that of sheep to peoples that never had seen a cotton plant may ended up creating a mythological creature.
I love this episode so much, I've been really looking forward to this specific reaction! It's ten minutes of infodump and then it switches to ten minutes of a different infodump :P
Ooo you two were COOKING in the discussion this episode 😉 loving these theories, and some of them even made me reexamine some of the things I know will come next season. Great time!
So many weird predictions and theories this time... How can a ghost from graveyard back in Laios's childhood be from that dungeon when it was mentioned that it's some local guy with ring from an elf?
The face mark you brought up is just how that person's face is. People have lighter and darker skin patches sometimes, and I've rarely seen it represented so casually and matter-of-factly. It's great!
Marcil said that the curse only holds human souls, but not the souls of monsters, otherwise the dungeon would be filled with the souls of the monsters they killed.
I don't know if the sheep plant from the last episode was a reference to any mythological plant, but I do know that there are real plants that deceive their pollinators rather than provide nectar. Like one mimics the coloring and smell of rotting flesh to attract flies, and another mimics the appearance of a virgin queen bee to attract males and slaps the pollen onto them.
The ghost that attacked Laios WASN'T from the dungeon! Laios' village isn't NEAR the village! THat ghost was identified as a normal villager from said village who just got cursed by the ring! THat wasn't a member of the golden kingdom, that was jsut some GUY! After all, if you leave the the golden kingdom, you DIE, as proved by King Delgal! THis also kills the "laios was a descendant of Delgal" theory, because Delgal couldn't LEAVE to have a kid, let alone spawn a new family line that lead to Laios.
probably after season 2 is over tbh. i really hope they end up reading the manga too, it has a ton of world building and character lore in the bonus chapters but those arent being adapted (yet anyway, still holding out hope that trigger does a mini series thats just the bonus chapters lol)
you are CATEGORICALLY incorrect: monsters DO have souls. its the ENTIRE POINT of what happened to Falin: her soul mixed with the dragon's, and the dragon is counted as a monster, hence monsters have souls. NOONE, at ANY POINT, said monsters lacked souls, that was an assumption you made, likely to better justify the fact the cast are eating and killing monsters. The story wouldn't be happening if monsters lacked souls. Nooen called orcs monsters. THey just treat them on the same level as monsters cause that's how racism works. also no the monsters aren't immortal. THey golden kingdom is just IN the fucking dungeon, they are just getting the monsters because THe Mad Mage controls the dungeon and thus controls the monsters and they cna easily get the monsters one way or another.
Blumenkranz Marcille over here. I do like how elven arrogance is portrayed. They're not malicious about it, but they're incredibly condescending because they simply cannot stop infantilizing short-lived races.
